Q30: Please add anything you want passed on to the AOG leadership in this space:

You're doing a great job: keep it up!

Keep up the good work!

The AOG management and trustee should operate as any board w/ shareholders while focusing on the higher ideals of the academy, not capital campaigns that a very distinguished but very business naive general runs. It has a history of being run by the Sups who are very poor business managers in the sense of a large university or capital campaigns. I would have hoped the Board was more business-like but normally it has been the good-old-boy generals club.

Please say Hello to brother Seth F. Jr. from Nancy and me. Thanks

Be more aggressive in contacting graduates who are not on active duty. Networking must be strengthened among USMA graduates, since there are not as many of us as there are private university graduates. ; ; Make a USMA-only version of the SABRD. A USMABRD would be great, especially as a searchable CD-ROM or a as a web-site feature.

If the AOG leader group cannot be acquired from WP graduates exclusively, then it should close up shop. I personally am not interested in what some outsider has to say other than as an adviser.

1. Excellent questionnaire.; 2. Questions #25 and #26 are right on the money; a great way to solicit input and provide feedback to the troops.;3. You're on the right track - keep up the good work!

As an independent trainer of computer software applications, I've enjoyed this opportunity to respond via electronic means. However, I hope that alternate means, e.g. newsletters, mailings, etc., will be retained as back-up so that anyone without internet access can still be kept in the loop.

Assembly is a prime source of information.; ; Founder's Day speakers should be more candid. It appears that there is a canned speech which espouses the party line.

Appreciate the opportunity to comment. Use of this type of forum provides those of us outside the process to participate. Thanks for conducting this survey.

A small feedback comment to your fund-raising methodology...for the past 2, maybe 3 years, I've sent in my annual donation the first week of the new calendar/tax year....thinking it would give the Academy the full year's use of the money, and yet let me count it for that given tax year...yet I still get the series of annual fund-raising solicitation letters throughout the years as if my 1st week of January donation hadn't ever been recorded...and then towards the end of the year, I get a real plateful letter which implies I have not given for that year. Point is that there doesn't seem to be a good cross-check for donors who donate OUTSIDE the specific window, using the specific envelope sent out during the annual fund-raising campaign.

Admittedly, this might be more hassle than it's worth, but this year I had given thought to just waiting to make my donation until the anointed window just to avoid this matter and make sure my donation was recorded correctly. Shouldn't have to be this way.

I do read the Supes updates - the browser didn’t work in that section for the yes area only- no circle appeared

Keep up the good work

The leadership seems to be run by a select group and it is not transparent. More openness and opportunity to run should be had. Voting could be done in the mail or on the internet. BECOME MORE OPEN TO THE GRADUATES YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE

Keep up the great work.

Thanks for asking.

Thanks for being there for us.

Please continue to expand your use of computer; based commo.

Sports have become a joke. Johns Hopkins has announced they won't play Army anymore. Why, because we stink.; ; We have a Superintendent that goes to football practice and takes his coat off and starts cheerleading. Can anyone ever in their wildest dream see Blackshear M Bryan going to practice with

Earl Blaik as coach and doing the same thing. The answer is no--- and if it ever happened, Blaik would have killed him on the spot.; ; We also have a former Supe that rides around the stadium at A/N games on one of the mules. Simply put, it is embarrassing. Someone, anyone tell these guys to grow up!! What must be going through the minds of the Cadets when they see LTGs acting like kids. That is NOT leadership.

In the twenty some odd years since graduation, the AOG has been a rather invisible organization to me. Several years ago, while secretary of the West Point Society of San Francisco, I contacted the AOG about some fundraising by the local society to benefit the local VA hospitals to generate favorable publicity for USMA. I was told that we could not discuss that in the Assembly. Since that time, I have not expected much from the AOG and, accordingly, I have not been disappointed. Keep the Supe honest in presenting the WP story to Congress and the Army leadership.

Good luck.

Continue the excellent work. Just be careful to recognize that the needs of graduates and those of West Point herself are constantly changing. It's a fine line between preserving history and tradition and staying a current and vital part of graduates' lives. We must stride to do so, however.

When is our football team going to improve?

It appears that criticism or honest differences of opinion over USMA policies are not acceptable or at least never appear in the Assembly. I am not referring to a vindictive or spiteful attack.

I do think the AOG is doing its job well, trying and I for one appreciate the opportunity to ventilate and provide input. I can only speak for myself, but the other concerns I believe are important long term to the Academy, and the overall well-being of the Nation.

It has to be HARD. We should not be especially proud of ...the greatest class retention rate in history... as I heard crowed about at one AOG meeting. If anyone could do it...it's not West Point.

As a USMA graduate in a civilian corporate career, I would consider the AOG an important resource if I was networking for a new job/career advancement.

Without regard to the other academies, USCC should be reduced in size to about 2500 again. Why not when the services have been so greatly reduced in size? There doesn't seem to be room for present size. Admit we built for a different time and quit being selfish for a large number of positions. Maybe 2500 isn't just right but study what number is and move to implement it. When that is done concentrate on quality and production of leaders not just scholars. I am very disappointed is the direction USMA is moving.

I think our AOG does a GREAT job!

The survey is a good idea. I look forward to seeing the results.

I believe the AOG is doing a fine job for all of us and that it continues to improve year by year. While there may be lots of approaches that could be pursued, I trust the leadership we have and want to support the Association whole-heartedly. The increased effort for seeking input is welcomed and should pay off nicely.

From my frequent contacts will all the staff I want to add my personal thanks for their constant efforts on our behalf.; ;

Three issues:; 1. On the question of WPF vs. AOG, I think they should and can be under the same roof, but distinguishing between those missions will ensure that neither is neglected. There is no reason why the WPF side cannot have a world class, energetic lean, professional development staff modeled after the best fund raisers (like my other school, Princeton) and the AOG have a customer/graduate services side modeled after USAA or other pros in customer support and service.; 2. There is a perception among graduates that (like the Army) AOG has maintained many of the old, hierarchical structures that characterized moribund businesses in the 70s and early 80s. Graduates may not feel that it has transformed itself into the information age with a flatter more lean and agile organizations (like most graduates in business have done with their businesses). As beautiful as Herbert Hall is, that Hall may inadvertently reinforce that perception. I know that there are many hard-working, dedicated people at AOG. It is important to emphasize to graduates the way that AOG is reforming to become the world class organization that its alumni want.; 3. To sell West Point and support development, recommend maximum involvement with cadets for visiting graduates and other potential donors. One hour with a group of cadets is probably worth as much as a day with a group of officers. The AOG has the perception among graduates of maintaining the hierarchical

From my frequent contacts will all the staff I want to add my personal thanks for their constant efforts on our behalf.

I am very pleased to see this survey.

As a Trustee of a public college I know how important it is for the administration to receive input from the various constituencies before making important decisions. No matter how well-intentioned a college administration is, without this input quality decisions are often not made. It seems to me that the Long Gray Line is a forgotten constituency as far as major decisions affecting USMA programs and goals involving the education and training of cadets is concerned. I think the Long Gray Line needs to be represented organizationally to the Administration and AOG leadership is in the very best position to do this.

I applaud your efforts. Pay attention to what's playing on the WP-ORG Forum and temper your actions to what your constituency is---and it isn't all like Lucian Truscott and Norm Grady, who may be the most vociferous. m (Why mention them? They are the most persistent on the Forum!)

I support full disclosure of service background data on anyone seeking to hold an AOG position.

There has been too much of an attempt to civilianize West Point – letting people that have been found on honor being allowed back in, changing the graduation ranking system, and ensuring that graduates enter as RA.

I recently resigned my regular commission after more than fulfilling my active duty obligation. I am an actively drilling reservist and consider my status as more than just a civilian, yet AOG and USMA consider it an all or nothing proposition (note the options for answering question 5 of this survey). While I agree with the emphasis placed on a career of service in the active Army during the Superintendent's recent evaluation of the mission and goal statement's of USMA, I don't believe it should come at the expense of those of us who choose to serve our Army and country in a different capacity than active duty.

Things may have moved to far too fast. The old grads are the ones who have been in the trenches, know what is required in the new graduate, still retain the welfare of the academy, and fear the product may be in danger.

Listen to us.

Inspite of being somewhat critical, I am very pleased that AOG is alive and well. I am a young guy, fresh out of the Army, unmarried and am willing to help out locally in any capacity. I am certain that my opinions are shared, however voiced, by my classmates.

I only get to visit West Point about once every other year. I donated a paver & brick for Herbert Hall. I have never been able to enter Herbert Hall on any of my past visits. It is closed except for special functions or 8-5 weekdays.; I thought it was going to be for Alumni what Grant Hall was for us as cadets. A place to visit at anytime to meet guest and use phone, get questions answered, etc. ; ; On one of my visits Herbert Hall was open but Closed to Visitors because a meeting was being held.; ; As a Grad and Active Supporter of West Point, I always feel like any John Q Public when I visit and was looking forward for Herbert Hall to change that. I have been greatly disappointed!

GET OUT THE WORD. MAKE WEST POINT RELEVANT IN THE UNITED STATES TODAY. ENGAGE THE ACADEMY LEADERSHIP TO DO THE SAME. THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP IS A GREAT IMPROVEMENT TO THAT OF THE LATE 80s AND EARLY 90s, BUT THEIR IS A LOT OF GROUND TO MAKE UP!

This forum is a great idea. Keep up the good work! Good luck separating the wheat from the chaff.

Compared to the other service academies, we've done a great job at keeping everyone informed (or at least providing the mechanism for it). Keep up the good work! I'd love to do anything I can to help.

I served as president of the local society in the early 1970s and helped with the admissions program after that. At present my health does not permit my participation in any new activities.

Any aspect of West Point which does not contribute to development of the Duty Honor Country ethic should be continually questioned and potentially changed. Two for starters: Inappropriate focus on NCAA Division I sports programs- let's admit it, we're a Division II school !; Under-emphasis on military training program, mostly due to impact of academic majors.

I've not been that active as an AOG member, but I appreciate the service and information that you provide us. Keep up the good work.

Establishing the Minority Outreach Committee was a positive, proactive, measure that ought to serve USMA well as our national demographics rapidly change in the 21st century....reinforce that action by ensuring the agenda is holistic...stay away from one-sided agendas.

Stay focused on the goals. No personal agenda's.

I'm living in The Netherlands. Where is the nearest WP Society?

This survey is a great approach to communication with the membership. Using the internet is also a progressive approach, although I wonder how many grads are still not using the 'net.

Athletics and fund raising are not the essential elements, functions or mission of the AOG. Please focus on the important considerations and directions as I have attempted, perhaps poorly, to outline.

I have answered previous questions to indicate that I am not active in USMA activities nor do I wish to be at this time. I am grateful to USMA for my education, profession, and friends. However, in memory of those great gifts and within the spirit of jointness, I am giving all my discretionary time to our sister academy in Annapolis through direct contact with midshipmen in a leadership and sailing program which culminates each summer with an ocean passage by sailboat. I receive a great sense of making a difference in the molding of military officers through this program. I do not see a similar program at USMA through which I could make a difference.

A good beginning survey. Somehow, this should be furnished to all non-Internet equipped Alumni

Reference questions 25 and 26 above, if Agenda is sent out early enough, those of us who cannot attend may be able to forward our views for consideration.

Thanks for asking!

Have not heard much about the planning for 2002. I believe much could be done to address the concern presented in #29.

Survey is a good idea. Keep focus on ensuring WP is vital to Army.

Thanks for asking - it is really refreshing - and helps make the old guys feel like they are involved.; ; Really do like your new direction, Including annual meetings with class leaders, etc. don’t get too involved with the nuts and bolts . stay focused on the goal of working with the alumni.

Thanks for doing a great job!

Don't sell your soul to recruit an athlete. Athletes that want to be a part of the Corps and part of the Army are a true benefit to the Academy. When you have coaches and administrators pining over some kid with a 36 inch vertical leap and a 1.8 GPA who wants to be a quartermaster after graduation because he already hates the army, you do more harm to the system than good.

When the survey is completed, I would like to receive a copy of the results. Is this feasible/possible?

Keep us informed. Many grads have access to e-mail. TROA e-mails a weekly summary on issues of concern to its members. Suggest that AOG try same.

I feel that the AOG has been too much a supporter of the administration at USMA and does not truly represent the GRADUATES.

This is a good start in getting input from the graduates. Use us! We are experienced and still dedicated to USMA. Bring us into the picture. Sunshine laws are the trend. Put it into being with the AOG.

We need to strengthen our communications with all graduates and realize that West Point needs them more than they need West Point. Graduates should feel that they are a close knit group, West Point needs to do more to make them feel that they are appreciated. A personal gripe but I think excellent example: A year ago I took my wife to see West Point for the first time. I took her across the apron to let her get a closer feel for the barracks etc. - we never went in any buildings. As we were walking across we were confronted by the OC. It was a Sunday so we weren't interfering with any activity. I explained to him that I was a graduate and was trying to show my wife where I had spent four years and why USMA meant so much to me. Like all OC's he couldn't have cared less, in fact, he said well if you are a graduate then you know that you are not allowed to be in this area, you need to leave. Yeah, he was right I legally shouldn't have been there. So, I left the apron and concluded my tour of the Academy. Why should I stay committed to an institution that treats its graduates like outsiders. If they want some money, they're going to have to change their ways slightly. I assure you, the other institutions to which I also give, my high school, and Harvard, would have reacted quite differently. I recommend that West Point figure out a way to allow graduates to feel members of the institution rather than outsiders.

This is a great idea and the AOG deserves credit for much hard work. I think the frustration out in the field is not knowing how to deal with the current social and economic issues facing West Point and knowing we want to do something through the existing infrastructure.

Actually, I am curious as to how the WPF is managed. Do gifts go into a particular style of fund management? Are they managed by an outside fund manager? Do they simply go into a money market account or is the money

working for us in some portfolio? Since I am in the business of stock brokerage, I am certainly interested...Thanks.

Get us involved in national issues using our grassroots organization

I would like to see more interaction from former graduates with current cadets.; I would like to have more information sent about transitions from the Army for all classes.

I think the AOG is doing a great job. It is the direction of and future of USMA that concerns me.

God Bless the USA!

I really approve of the leadership direction LTG Graves started and LTG Christman has continued. I believe their efforts will bear fruit in the coming years.

Assembly, through obits and articles, tends to imply that all grads are wildly successful in life. I imagine that there have also been some big failures or perhaps said another way, successes in areas not exactly recognized as such. I don't know how to get our arms around this and make it something of a positive force but as things are it does not seem to be a totally honest presentation.

Stop being so defensive

West Point needs a first class hotel where families, grads and reunions can stay enjoying the point rather than having to travel long distances when visiting or during reunions.

I read Assembly almost cover to cover. Somehow I was unable to enter the appropriate responses in an earlier question about which parts I read.

the AOG is a captive of the present and recent past of the administration. it has not represented the views of graduates

I'm not sure young grads recognize that the AOG is relevant. Except for publishing the Register and Assembly, what do you do, and why should they care? If you don't sell yourselves more convincingly--much more convincingly--than you have recently, you'll eventually go the way of other veterans' organizations (VFW, American Legion, etc.)....full of old men telling war stories, but with very few young recruits, destined to an inevitable decline and demise.

Having recently attended my ten year reunion, I would like to share with you one general observation concerning the Corp of Cadets. I detected a much more relaxed attitude from the cadets, especially the 4th class. Such an environment no doubt improves the academic success of the Corps, however I can't help but feel that USMA is losing one of its unique strengths. The ability of all West Pointers to handle excessive amounts of stress and still perform at a high level is something that sets us apart from all others. While I have been fortunate and not had to experience the actual stress of combat, I do know that even in my civilian career the ability to cope with stress efficiently has been invaluable. This is an ability that I'm not sure our newest graduates will have.

Speaking only for myself, the Academy's, AOG's, my class's and the local WPS's active use of the Internet has materially strengthened my awareness and involvement in Academy issues. I believe continued use of the Internet

will make the bonds among all Graduates much stronger. Keep it up.

Seems like the AOG doesn't sell the Army to Grads hard enough, fighting to convince grads to stay on active duty. This trend (of grads getting out before serving a full career) threatens the very existence of the institution, in that it provides a very juicy target for Congress. Also continue to promote ways for WP to affect the Army as a whole, perhaps through some form of integrated summer camp or core academic commissioning curriculum for all 2LTs entering active duty.

I think that the AOG plays an important role in the life of the Academy and the Nation. My own relative uninvolvement with the AOG should not be understood as disavowing that importance. Keep up the good work.

-New leadership refreshing/energetic!!; -Increased activities by trustees and supporting committees great!!

Bets thing you've done in a long time is this survey. Keep up the good work. The LGL wants to talk to you. Listen.

I have attempted to say it all above. ARE THEY LISTENING?? If not, there may be requirements for an AOCG (Association of concerned graduates)

I am happy that the AOG is involved with Cadet Activities. I am also pleased the AOG is involved with Cadet Admissions, and the Mission of USMA.; ; I am a proud graduate of USMA. I strongly believe in USMA's ideals. I will support the AOG in maintaining its support of USMA.

When I went to the academy in 83 I felt very honored to enter. I planned on serving 20 and had this idea that I could later get a great position with General Dynamics. Well all that has changed now and I left after 6 and 1/2 years. What I found is that coming from gov't I started lower on the pay scale than my peers and our external image has suffered. The Army may go up and down in popularity but the influence of our institution should not be coupled with this. In fact people my age don't know much about West Point and it's only the generation ahead of me (40 yrs. +) that still knows. Also please let the current admin know that we were treated with more respect as cadets than what was presented at the 10 yr. This includes COM SUPE and DEAN. 1. How about all wearing class A's.; Not one in B's and two in unstarched sloppy BDU's. 2. How about the Supe dedicating more time here as it's once a year and not run off to some Trustee's meeting. 3. Since we come from all over I think it would be best for them to solicit feedback from us as my class attrition rate form active duty is over 70%.; I would think they would find this important and want to know the root cause instead of asking for money to repaint some track review stand.; ; I guess I would have deleted this survey had not I loved West Point very much and don't want to see it marginalized. There are allot of positive things as well and AOG I believe is the critical factor. Also my wife and I really liked the new Hall. I would likely be more involved, but have spent most of my service overseas (about 15 of 22 years). However, my Academy experience is the most rewarding of my life. Therefore, I am glad to see initiatives on the Internet, which provide more timely updates than do quarterly Assemblies.

I was surprised and somewhat dismayed at the recent selection of Mr. Cronkite for the Thayer Award. In reading the award citation, it seemed to me that the most compelling reason for his selection was that darn near everyone else had honored him, and AOG didn't want to be left out. For other academic institutions to do so, especially if sponsored by their respective journalism departments, honoring him may indeed be appropriate. However, I don't see where Mr. Cronkite meets the criterion of living a lifetime of unswerving devotion to the principles expressed in the motto,... Duty, Honor, Country. Maybe in his acceptance speech he hit the mark, that his selection represents an effort to rebuild broken ties between a free press and a military that ultimately must answer to the people.; ; I hope future award selections are not politicized. For example, in looking over the list of past recipients, I noted that former POTUS Reagan and Bush were honored. I believe these two deserved the award based upon selection criteria, but I fear that their selection may be used as precedent to present the award to all future POTUS. I sincerely hope that this thinking will not be invoked regarding all future former POTUS. Rather, each individual should be selected based upon the selection criteria, and especially whether or not he has indeed upheld the motto of West Point, Duty, Honor, Country.

Great job.

My parents wanted to leave some money to USMA/AOG in their will. I don't know how they wanted to set it up but they gave up because when they contacted USMA, the process was difficult/unfriendly enough to discourage them. I'm sorry I don't know more details but perhaps this process can be simplified.

INVOLVE GRADUATES! As an AOG member, the only involvement AOG has ever sought from me (or provided me the opportunity to have, until this survey), was to subscribe to the Assembly and to give money. Even the transition services--the SABRE--costs money.

This survey proves your desire to reach out to the broader community. Good effort and well worth pursuing. Thanks.

Recognize that 51% of the military is in the Reserve Components and that a graduate continuing to serve in the RC is still providing a service to his/her country that is no different than serving on Active Duty – When called, we answer. Furthermore, managing two distinct careers is challenging, with demands that equal or exceed those on Active Duty. I recently received a glossy publication explaining the year 2000 funding goals. It was printed with black type on green background throughout. I am in my mid fifties with fairly good vision, yet I had extreme difficulty reading the words. Older grads may have had similar or more severe constraints. I believe I provided feedback to AOG in a written survey.

I've not seen nor heard any response. The entire fund raising business and the uses need review. I am not convinced that enhancement programs supported by non-appropriated funding are truly outside of the Academy's core responsibility.

Met a cadet who was former 82nd ABN and a Yearling. Said that USMA was a lot easier than I thought it would be. Correlated a lot of my worst fears. We're failing. The mission of the AOG should be to focus the grads and get us back to where we belong - before USMA becomes extinct. I don't think the place is worth the cost the way it is right now. I do NOT currently contribute financially to WP now for that reason. Second-rate school. I sent my son to a GOOD engineering college and ROTC.

The officers that the Academy sends to the field continue to be superb.

With so many talented graduates out there, there must be SOME way to make our voices heard in Congress and elsewhere. Where are our champions? Who are they? How can the rest of us help preserve USMA's ability to fulfill its vital role?

I'd like to know how permanent jobs are filled. I applied a few years ago for a position as a LTC. I am a three time alternate for Bn CMD. As an aside, my wife and I were blessed with triplets several years ago while I was a Division SGS, when I decided to take myself out of the hunt by seeking taking a job other than that of a meat-eater. No regrets, but my point is that I wasn't doing poorly at the time. I applied, but was told by somebody at USMA that I shouldn't waste my time. That they were looking for somebody else and that even though the advertisement didn't exclude a white male, it should have. Had some great references. Didn't even get an interview. I said I'd pay for it myself. No go. This process was pre-determined and was advertised otherwise. A guise. Actually, the guy who got the job didn't fill it for about a year. The job sat vacant for a year. If I recall, the advertisement said that there was some sort of availability requirement. That's a personal observation. However, I have another that is also boggling. And that has to do with the filling of the Master of the Sword position. I know of three people who were so outstanding (Jerry Johnson, Mark Hertling and Hank Keirsey) that any would have been super for years to come. But a woman was selected, who to my knowledge hasn't commanded at any level above company. What was the selection criteria? I'll say that maybe there are facts that I'm not aware of, and that yes, somebody has to make a decision. But my feedback from the grassroots level is that there is at least a perception of favoritism and/or meeting some sort of quota of minorities. Let's be up front.

ADVERTISE that we want a woman to fill the position, or another minority, or whatever. But don't say you're looking for the best when you are essentially screening out a large part of the force. That's the way I feel and I know that's the way a good number of others do too. THAT'S what AOG can do. Get the best qualified people for the job and ensure that the process is fair so that our Cadets get the BEST leadership and the BEST quality that's available. I understand the representative nature and demographic issues involved. Many are insulted that the Academy doesn't think that people see through the eyewash. My included comments were meant to be to the point but not rude or sarcastic. Although looking at least one of them, sarcasm was a little evident. Having been a Tac at West Point I know that if you're on campus, you have a much bigger impact on things. If you're not, then money or who you know is what drives the train. I'm not wealthy and I'm out of the mainstream here in the ROTC world. But I'd love to talk with somebody if you or they would want.

1) My experience over the last 26 years in the Army, to include as a battalion commander in Desert Storm, shows me that USMA continues to produce quality professional officers, both male and female. There are always a few exceptions, but no system is perfect. AOG should continue to support the admission and education of only the best qualified candidates.

When other institutions are going with the flow of political correctness, USMA has to be the rock solid foundation of ethical, moral, and academic standards for the nation.; 2) If AOG supports any political candidates because they are USMA graduates, I suggest you also print their major voting record so alumni can better judge how they want to offer support, rather than just because they are graduates. A recent request for support for a graduate (can't remember if AOG or another USMA group) running for congress failed to note he voted AGAINST US involvement in Desert Storm,

FOR homosexuals in the Armed Forces, and supported every other liberal plank of the current administration. While he is a grad, I certainly don't support his voting positions, nor would others if they knew his positions.

Print a complete picture, or none at all.

Hi Greg

The idea of a single academy will rear its head again and again until it finally gets the support to make it happen. It is inevitable that the more joint the services become, the more support for a single school will be created. The AOG needs to get out front on the issue and insure that when the decision is made to go to one academy that West Point stands out as the only choice. Plans for investment must be developed to insure all the questions that will be asked about cost effectiveness have the right answers. The American public needs to know what West Point stands for and not only what it stood for in the past but what it stands for in the

future. West Point needs to be a recognizable name. I think today it is recognized in only a very few select areas/social arenas. An example: Every year you almost see the Air Force Academy being selected for a football bowl. The whole process during the season makes USAFA a national household name. The higher ranked they become, the better for USAFA. Some of their players have even gone on to become proplayers and USAFA advertises that fact; more name recognition and probably more alumni support financially and physically. Blanchard and Davis will only get you a blank stare from kids today. USMA is not in the business to develop athletes, but with issues like shrinking budgets, reduced manpower and going to a single academy hinging on name and reputation (as viewed by the American public) maybe an investment in a quality nationally competitive athletic program needs to be a priority.

I think the AOG is doing a much better job now than it did ten years ago. If I were on active duty, I would have virtually no complaints about the manner in which it is being run -- I would be a member of the more favored group of graduates (active duty working towards retirement) and I would not have access to other discount programs that afford better rates. From that standpoint, the AOG should be pleased -- I believe that it is meeting the needs of the active duty graduates.

Having dealt with surveys in the past, my time here is probably wasted. Have a Happy Holiday.

Beat Navy, of course.

I (and I think most other graduates) would like to know immediately of any tangible threats to close the academies should these threats ever arise seriously. I should think there would be sufficient influence from among our ranks to keep this from happening.

There is more to the Army than Active or retired. Not sure many (older) Grads think that way, but there are lots of Civil Service and Reserve/Guard guys still serving the country. Especially from my year group and later. The Active guys took big cuts in the early 90s and then some of the senior officers and older grads claim we are disloyal or unfaithful for getting out. It shows how out of touch they really are. It wasn't our choice. However I am now a GS-14, still in the Select reserve as an IMA and a member of the Army Acquisition Corps. I am probably doing more and contributing more than if I had stayed on Active duty. But as far as you and much of the rest of the Army is concerned, it is either active or retired.....; Until this attitude changes you will continue to have disenfranchised members who are not outcasts, but are perceived and treated as such.; If I could be CSA or Sec of the Army for a day, I would REQUIRE all Active duty guys to get out as CPTs and require a minimum of 2 years in the reserves or guard. Then officers could apply to come back on active duty as CPTs and be considered for promotion to Major. NO one would make 0-4 without time in the Reserves or Guard.; If we talk the talk about the Army team, we need to start recognizing it and putting it into place.; If you focus only on current grads on active duty your #s will continue to get smaller and the Academy will go out of business. If you include all who are still contributing to the Nation in Civil Service, Reserve and Guard, I think you can paint a much better picture and show great success for the foundation the Academy provides.

Re: question #5: It's too bad that you don't regard Reserves or National Guard as a military status. I think that says volumes about your continual focus on Active Duty and Retired issues. The times they are a changin'. The military careers of many of today's graduates follow a different pattern than those of forty years ago.

While we would all hope that the nation would not lose its head entirely and abolish USMA, it is a non-zero possibility. AOG needs to develop a catastrophe plan to consider whether some form of privatization is possible. Quite often, great deals can be cut (such as transition

legislation donating all the capital facilities to AOG in the event of closure) as long as the probability of the event seems remote.

AOG needs to promote more to the Corps while they are still at USMA.

This is a great way to interact with USMA graduates. I encourage further use of Internet capabilities such as this.

In general, I think the AOG does a great job. I worry that it gets politicized and used as a fund raising arm too much, however. Would love to see a comprehensive web page that is continually updated including pictures.

The West Point Forum should be a place grads can talk without attribution or recrimination about their real feelings on issues pertaining to West Point, the Army, and our Nation. Senior leaders still on active duty should be able to converse with us on the forum and not be quoted outside the fraternity. They also should not come down on those of us with differing views than their own, even if we are also still on active duty.

Doing a great job....like a defensive position, it can always be improved

I primarily got involved with the Admissions process working with Buster Hayden USMA'45 in seeking better ways of exchanging information between the field and the Admissions Office. Certainly anything the AOG can do to enhance that process would be most beneficial. Some of the suggestions I made in 1986 at the Liaison Officers' Orientation are now being implemented. Where COL Hayden and I did work up an ASCII PC based application for the interview form, this same form could be provided via the same means as is this survey. The only difference being that each AO has a USERID/PASSWORD protected account.

The strides made by the AOG over the past 10 years are monumental and significant. I sincerely believe the foundation is in place to carry us on to our Tricentennial.

Having lived and worked in Dallas since 1981, I do not feel connected to the efforts of the AOG. I have appreciated the Assembly and mailings over the years, and I would encourage you to increase contact with all grads in order to generate more interest & involvement.

Thank you for your services and support. I am interested in USMA activities, but presently fully occupied in my profession and limited in my ability to serve.

You have my gratitude for your continued service to USMA.

happy to make electronic contact with the AOG!

This survey alludes to a changing USMA mission.; ; Why does it keep changing? Shouldn't the mission, as Gen MacArthur said remain fixed, inviolable, constant. Despite budget pressures, the purpose of the Academy should remain true to its heritage.

I need an organization chart depicting responsibilities for AOG, USMA, West-Point Org, AAA and anyone else out there along with their e-mail addresses.

Greg Louks and his folks are doing a fantastic job working with the Societies.

I appreciate the time and effort that you are willing to make on behalf of we alumni, even if some of us are not very involved. Thank you.; Have a happy holiday season.

AOG needs to establish system where alumni who make any donations/contributions will be acknowledged...Like a thank- you in the mail would be nice. Just a note saying : Hey, thanks for the money and we appreciate your support..; Second, acknowledge the fact that the donation was received.....

I guess you can tell I want to be involved and look forward to being part of the solution of making the Academy and AOG better.

Please update your database to reflect those cadets whom are married to each other. I am tired of my wife (class '86) being hounded by AOG to subscribe to the Assembly when I have been subscribing to it for over 12 years. STOP telling her(us) to subscribe, we already do. Get a more intelligent database system. Thanks.;

READ the comments I think they are sound, and if you must discard something then protect the sacred cow of AAA it won't harm us as much as the lack of a career center.

You are doing a good job and the new look of the Assembly is much appreciated.

I like the idea of doing this survey. I learned a lot about what the AOG provides just by filling out the survey. Good Luck

Thank you, Jack Hammack, for your good work!

A quick and easy method to enable us to influence congress utilizing e-mail.

Thanks for all of your proactive efforts - in particular, the USMA and AOG websites. You have far surpassed the other academies. The class page with e-mail addresses has been a terrific tool to contact long lost classmates

- great job!

I am pleased to see this survey. Great idea.

They should have kept Col Hallums and canned those LTCs.

Would rather see board of trustee agenda and minutes added to the home page and an announcement sent that they are available than to have them automatically sent to me or not to have access.

As a former Congressional Aide, I have been embarrassed by the Graduate Community - not the AOG per se - on a range of legislative issues and executive orders by their instant and vehement resistance to change. E.G., women/homosexuals in the services are/were ORDERS with the full backing of Constitutional and Command authority. To see the most senior grads oppose such authority and involve themselves in political matters caused many of my civilian colleagues to wonder when these old guys ceased to respect the Executive and Legislative branches of the government. Same is true on federal funding matters. To whine for even more precious tax dollars is shameful in our present fiscal environment. Should AOG politically lobby on my behalf - even when I agree with the stance - I will cancel my lifetime membership in a public way.

The AOG is great. You give us great support at the Society level and I appreciate that. Greg Louks and Bridgette Suarez and the other support staff are SUPER!!!! ; ; I don't understand graduates who choose not to

participate in Society membership. Maybe we could emphasize Society membership to Cadets, so when the graduate they will know what they are and the importance of membership.

Really like the move toward electronic communication.

I've told you more about this elephant than you may care to know.

Many graduates have pursued military careers in the Army reserves, this group seems to have been forgotten. You have services to assist in the transition to civilian life, what about the potential transition to the reserves. You may want to consider a service to assist those leaving active duty but who would consider transferring into the reserves. The reserves need good officers, especially those with active duty experience. The reserves have lost several individuals that I know of because they had no place to turn to for information on the reserves or for assistance in locating a unit.

The AOG has been an excellent, cost-effective link to the Academy. I support your efforts to use technology to improve and maintain services and communication.

Continue the excellent support to the classes as they prepare and conduct their reunions.; ; Stay in touch with cadets and their needs so the gifts given by the classes are meaningful and useful.

The AOG can't do much about it but the PC trend is destroying the military and USMA.

Thanks for your outreach via this medium.

There are TOO MANY kids that have never heard of West Point. Too many people do not realize the Army-Navy game is between the Military Academy and the Naval Academy. Need an outreach program to send people into schools with compelling video which shows the role USMA has played in the past 195 years, and the exciting challenges awaiting those who enter today. I'd enjoy giving those presentations, and we need a national network to get the word out. Today's kids are tomorrow's taxpayers who will be paying (or not) for the Academy in the future...

I appreciate what you do & plan to become more involved.

The West Point product is tremendously more expensive than the ROTC & OCS alternative. As such, graduates must perform better, serve more faithfully, and contribute considerably more--in order to justify the greater tax payer expense. What happens when the tax payers discover that today's West Pointers are not appreciably better performers, resign their commissions at rates equal to or higher than the southern commissioning sources, and don't contribute any more than their ROTC or OCS contemporaries? Producing officers is a business. The competition is keen and West Points today are not worth what they cost.

The AOG should foster development of more local Societies. As an example, I belong to the closest one So.TX which is 250 miles away, therefore I have only participated in seven or eight activities in 13 years. As an Admissions MAAR, I could use more contact with a Society.

Good concept & idea, great survey! What has been the response to this survey? Has the response been statistically significant? ; ; How does the response compare w/ an equivalent survey done through Assembly’s paper

pages? ; ; If AOG's results have not been significant, why not reduce the length of the survey to, maybe four questions, then conduct these more often? ; ; Try other alternatives!

We should have networking capabilities for out of work graduates, and to help graduates that have government contracts (Large company to be Mentor to small company)

I believe the AOG should represent the interests of graduates. Whenever these interests are different from those of the Academy (rarely, I hope), the concerns of graduates must be made known forcefully to the Academy leadership in a helpful way. The point I am attempting to make is that the AOG represents us; it is not an extension of the USMA staff and shouldn't be beholden to the Supe. He, as any other grad, has one vote. Having said the above, he is the commander and has the last word, but we can forcefully disagree.

Seth--Get better quality control of the bookstore merchandise. If it is not first quality-don’t sell it. And more important, have a great Christmas.

I recently took an AOG sponsored cruise under the leadership of LTC Thomas E. Piazze, Jr and his wife, Donna. They did a marvelous job and were certainly a credit to the USMA and the AOG. I look forward to another AOG cruise especially if they are the AOG representatives.

I heartily and sincerely applaud Mr Hammack's emphasis upon communicating with the Grads. He is the right man in the right place.

I say again...; ; I believe that the current Academy Leadership is focusing far too much attention on Army athletics -- specifically football. The belief is that if our athletic facilities are not competitive with (e.g.) University of Texas, Notre Dame, UNC, etc. then we will not be able to recruit the cream of the crop. I disagree. We do not need the top .01% of American high schoolers. We need to be recruiting great Americans who have common sense, leadership, are smart, fit, and willing to commit 20 years of their lives to serving their country as officers in the Army. A $24 million football annex isn't taking many steps in that direction. AOG is a partner in this vector, and I fundamentally disagree with it.; ; By the way, part of the pride in beating great sports teams -- and other academies -- is that we did it without the marble-floored locker room and the state of the art gym. Cadets do it with guts and heart. I fear that we are getting away from that.

We need complete transparency so grads can quickly and easily understand what is going on. I think the income-expense area is important.; I have been generally content with and supportive of the AOG as it is over the past many years.

I would like to see the current Supe extended through 2002 if possible. I would like to see the current commandant sent back to the 82d.

Question 5: AOG Leadership needs to realize that there are other categories of graduates that are not addressed by the 4 choices given for this question, which go directly to the lifetime of service to the Nation (or words to that effect) in the Academy restated mission. I am a serving Reserve officer, in the Selected Reserve, who is also professionally employed in civilian life. By only counting Active Duty, Retired Military, and Civilian Life as your three basic categories, you take no credit for those of us who, for whatever reason, are not on active duty but are balancing the demands of dual careers.; ; Question 16: I think there needs to be greater communications with AOG members about the 2002 campaign. What is it? What are the projects that the Superintendent identified that led AOG to decide to expand the WPF goals? ; ; I also think, with regard to fund raising, that there should be greater efforts to integrate the efforts of the classes with overall WPF campaigns, like 2002. I perceive a conflict between the need to raise funds for the WPF and the desire to raised funds for class gifts. There are only so many dollars out there; it appears that both the classes and the WPF are trying to tap the same source.

Over the long term, I fear we may not be able to justify USMA's further existence. I believe it's worth trying to keep, but only if it continues

to be of commensurate value to America. I think the greatest thing it provides America is an embodiment of long-tested values. I do not believe it provides a graduate of greater quality in any dimension than OCS at the country's many colleges and universities. USMA's embodiment of long-tested values probably doesn't sell to Congress, and that makes it tough to keep USMA going. Striking a viable balance between the traditional and the popular is a great challenge. That's what the Supe has to do, and AOG should be active in that process. Good luck.

The one thing I found most deficient in my training as a cadet is an inadequate development of the concept of DUTY, which I define as doing what is right simply because it is RIGHT. I abhor the dependence on regulations to keep cadets on the right track, having observed the excesses of many when they no longer have regulations keep them under control. I favor emphasizing DUTY more equally with HONOR, even to the extent of developing a DUTY CODE to govern the life of the cadet in the same way as the HONOR CODE. When cadets spend their time observing their superiors following a sense of duty as well as of honor (rather than looking for loopholes), they will grow more.

Please send (via email) the Academy or AOG position on many of the difficult issues which confront West Point. Knowing how West Point stands on issues (for example any news item worthy of printing in the New York Times) enables graduates to better answer questions among peers and prospective cadet candidates.

The primary role of the AOG should be: To encourage contact among graduates and; To support USMA by providing information to graduates.; ; The fund raising should be passed back to the West Point Fund and the current overemphasis decreased. I am a member of several other alumni organizations, for institutions which probably need money more than USMA, but they do not put so much emphasis on fund raising.

Will the Academy be the agent of change for the military, or will it be reactive to changes elsewhere?

In the past I have been pleased with the support received from the AOG but I perceive the AOG becoming a weaker partner with the Superintendent; ands having less impact on the direction our Academy should be going. I would want to see the results of this survey

I like this survey and feedback mechanism and the way that I was notified electronically of its availability.

WHY CAN'T ALL GRADUATES BE INFORMED OF THE NEED FOR A WOMAN AS MASTER OF THE SWORD?; ; WHY CAN'T GRADUATES BE COMMISSIONED IN THE REG. ARMY?

Good Luck!!

The new building is very nice and attractive.; ; Bob Lenz did a wonderful joy supporting the 67 30th reunion.

Keep up the good job you are going, pay attention to the rank and file (because there are more of us than there are of you, and you work for us--not the reverse), and practice the same management skills any forward thinking organization must employ. You cannot run the AOG like it was another branch of the DOD. If you serve you the people you represent and not your own interests, or the Supe's, or any other irrelevant group, you will be loved to the day you die--even if you cannot please everyone all the time. You are running an organization, not a popularity contest, but at the same time you are not our commanding officer--we do not have to do as you command. We can always replace you or ignore you if you are unresponsive. ; Again my thanks to COL Roseborough and his top notch staff in the job bank, career networking area without whose help I probably would have wound up in severe economic straits.

In these days, USMA needs an advocate outside of the active duty realm. AOG should be that advocate.; ; Also, USMA needs a serious, loyal critic. AOG should be that critic.; ; In short, AOG should not be the hand maiden of USMA and its leaders. It needs to be an independent and aggressive entity that advocates, supports, and criticizes USMA to ensure that USMA produces strong, honest, dedicated soldiers.

Survey took to long. Do shorter focused ones more often maybe.

Have you ever considered being a lobby for the Academy? What did you do when the number of cadets was reduced? And when Regular Commissions were no longer awarded to Graduates upon Graduation? Do you talk to the Administration?

Get out of the Supe's hair and focus on providing him with the resources he says he needs. No one that I know is interested in AOG's position on anything. ; Cut staff and hire some professional fundraisers, instead of retired LTC's looking for a sinecure.; Reduce the size of the deadwood Board and limit Board membership to 5-6 senior active duty and retired grads plus the USMA General officers.; Turn Herbert Hall over to the Supe to use as he likes and put any required staff in DC, where the biggest concentration of grads is located.; Rely on volunteers, and reward successful volunteer fundraising.;

Continue to accomplish the tasks you do in an extremely limited capacity. The minor differences are great ones for those that are not in a position to do so. West Point graduates have a unique privilege in that when we graduate and move out on our respective missions, we have friends and contacts throughout the entire spectrum of Army operations. Anything that can be done to strengthen these bonds between classmates and classes will benefit the AOG, graduates, the Academy, and most importantly, the United States Army.

There seems to be a strong resentment of West Point graduates within the Army leadership these days. I've worked for very few officers (predominantly ROTC) that supported USMA and its ideals--most consider USMA an 'elitist' organization. Is there anything the AOG can do, to help change the opinion other officer's hold of West Point graduates within the Active Army.

Please post the assembly on the Internet

Get the Football team Bowling for the holidays next year!! Win Conference USA!!

USMA is on track as far as preparing graduates for service in the regular Army. It needs to retain this focus. It shouldn't change anything without a thorough examination of a particular problem.

I think the AOG magazine is a very well written document and a good communication medium. Also, the use of the internet is excellent as another communication tool. Minority recruitment and retention continues to be a concern of mine (both in the local societies and at USMA).

AOG spends too much of their time and energy on fund raising. The perception of many of the alumni is that it is primarily a fund raising organization. This perception probably HURTS fund raising efforts. A better balance must be sought to maintained the AOG's relationship with its membership.

AOG seems to cater to the older grads -- I guess I am quickly becoming one, so soon I will fit into the AOG clientele. But the point is as a younger grad, I didn't care much about what AOG did or how it was done. Somehow, you need to capture the interest of the newly graduated cadets, granted they lack the resources to get involved, they do have energy. An option is to get cadets interested in AOG while at the Academy -- how you ask?? Good question, maybe sponsor financial seminars, and 'cadet meets world' activities to help transition from cadet to adult. Another option is to offer this stuff at the first duty assignment through region AOGs. Try to include younger grads in AOG activities. This will be a challenge. ; Final note:: I would venture to say that most cadets don't feel obliged to work toward AOG goals, without some sort of motivation. The academy needs $$$ is not enough.

I do not support adding a graduate school at WP.

As stated above, I am in the U.S. Navy. This has kept me out of touch with USMA but through the various homepages I have reconnected. Keep up the great website and keep posting information relative to USMA graduates.

I'm just getting back on line concerning grad business. Not aware of current issues.

I applaud your effort through this survey to get graduates opinions. Great step forward

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Good idea on the survey. I would have thrown a paper survey in the trash.

Thanks for doing a great job. I am proud to be a USMA grad and feel that you have the best interests of USMA in mind.

I appreciate the opportunity to respond. I did not spend a lot of time today on these questions - essentially my first reaction. I hope there will be other opportunities to interact with AOG as necessary. ; ; By the way, I believe Dan Christman is doing a fantastic job.; ; Happy Holidays!;

Keep up the great work!

I applaud your initiatives to be more active via electronic media. I have heard of past problems in working with West-Point.org, but I commend your realization that embracing this grass roots operation is far more beneficial to the AOG than trying to achieve some competitive advantage.

It good to see the AOG mature in its realization that service to USMA is not limited to AOG. Congratulations.

Keep working at it! I'm proud of the AOG, and hope to be able to contribute to its future roles and functions. The AOG has come a long way in the past few years, and it is encouraging! The new communication helps me considerably. I've said enough, but then no one wil;l take me seriously.. Why should the entrenched give up their rich perks and salaries and doesn't the Supe have a nice place to live and lots of flunkies to yes him?

This electronic survey is a good step but it can be abused. Be careful with results and the desire to expand the concept.

I recently bought a computer with a modem and I am very pleased in the internet information published by the AOG and USMA. I look forward to expanded use of this by the AOG and the graduates.; ; Thanks.

Electronic mailings, to those consenting to receive the mailings, provide a great, nearly free way to increase your visibility and distribute information quickly.

Parts of this survey should be sent out separately for a more detailed response - one action item at a time. Respondent should also be able to open and close then reopen his/her response until satisfied with what that person wants to say.; ; I like this - need to do it more often. Should use the internet to get the word out on a broadcast basis. In that regard, I am particularly interest in where we stand on 2002 program and what is in the works. The few items I have seen do not tell much of a story. Seems to me that a lot more has been happening than what has been put out to the graduates. If they do not know what is going on, they can not provide much in-put - particularly when they do no0t know who to contact with thoughts, ideas, etc.

Your staffing numbers and positions indicate that your primary emphasis is on fund raising. Is this desirable?

Great survey. Thanks.

Re Block 5. I wish to clarify my status. I served on Active Duty for over nine years before resigning to prepare for medical school. In the intervening two years I served as a Reserve officer on Active Duty for approx. 150 days. Presently I am in medical school on an Army scholarship with the expectation of serving as an Army physician until retirement.

Refer to Q10. Have made pledge to Class contribution to USMA. When that paid off, that will be my last contribution. Refer to Q13. Face to face preferred, but by necessity very limited opportunity. Refer to Q22. Only if I thought by attendance I could make my voice heard - not possible now.

Here's the point. West Point is drifting toward becoming a semi-private institute for preparation; of graduates for public service. It is no longer exclusively a school for warriors and civil engineers. This new purpose may be worthwhile, so long as it is understood and supported by all the interested parties. The cadets themselves are shaping this direction, as evidenced by their career choices after graduation. Too many are leaving for civilian careers, because they have no opportunities for service other than active duty in the army. That's a waste of the taxpayers money.

Because my career has taken many turns and caused me to move often, I always seek out and am thankful for the societies.; ; However, in speaking with my classmates, it is obvious that some WPSs do a better job of reaching graduates than do others. I have often heard expressed the feeling that the WPS exists only for the enthusiastic parents of cadets or for the more mature graduates who recall when it was a tighter clique with the shared bond of combat experience.; ; I'm sure they often look at us and wonder what they have in common with those of us who never fired a shot in anger, just as we do when we look at these new graduates who never walked the Area and did not experience enough of the Army to really understand career issues, the difficulty of raising a family in a high OPTEMPO environment, or the ties that bind soldiers forever.; ; I believe we all share more than just a ring in common; I would like to believe that we all share a love for our Academy and a great respect for our experience. I must admit it was not until several years after I left West Point that I came to grips this emotional tie. Therefore, we have got to come together through AOG to find a way to overcome the perceived barriers and differences among our graduates and work together to support each in other in our diverse needs and goals. Also, we need a vehicle for expressing our concern and discord with policies for which, for political reasons, USMA and AOG must toe the party line.

The two notes at 28 and 29 are pertinent and I know shared by many old grads.

I appreciate everything AOG has done for its graduates and I intend to be a more active member.

I believe that unless we, The Graduates, can regain full support of the Nation’s leadership and media which automatically would include the GAP, CLOSE the Doors and turn all the Service Academies into Public program institutions supporting social programs that the GAP will embrace.

Keep up the good work.; Keep seeking input from the field.

I really think the AOG is a quiet organization. I have always kept in touch with the AOG and have heard about few of the programs or what AOG actually does for West Point. I think AOG could be more involved in raising money for the programs at West Point. There are many successful West Point Grads that need to be encouraged to support West Point.

I like the e-mail initiatives. Keep going in this direction

I am disgusted with the Chief of Staff of the Army, the Army Staff, the Superintendent, his administration. Let's stand up like the Marines. They have kept their pride. The Army has been a willing tool for the politicians who wish to destroy the effectiveness and readiness of America's Armed Services. It is easier to do the harder right than the easier wrong. Remember what that means? Will the AOG be the gentle (or not so gentle) reminder to the Supe? If not, the ASOG is not worth supporting. I mean that very seriously. Think about it. Or, is the AOG resigned to be just an auxiliary to the USMA Administration. I do not like the present situation and believe it to be critical to the future of our nation.

Nuff Said

I am leaving the service to pursue a professional, civilian career. I am very proud of the academy and of the AOG. Never in my transition has the AOG or any West Point Grad turned their back on my decision to leave. For some reason I suspected it might happen. I will continue to support the AOG from my new post, wherever that is.

Merry Christmas & Happy Holiday to Seth.

This is a good idea, especially for grads serving overseas.

Regarding financial contribution, I would prefer to be able to target my dollars to specific academic or extra curricular areas. I received my MS from Stanford, and they have a program that allows me to target my contributions to specific activities.

SOCIETY SUPPORT HAS BEEN SUPERB!

Q#15 - really need to define terms to keep from getting wrapped around the axle. These words mean different things to different people. I'd be interested in a proposal which, in a single document, proposed the purpose, mission, goals, and objectives. Then I believe you would get the feedback you desire. This effort should probably include similar guidance/expectations for local chapters.

Thank you for your efforts and accomplishments.

Keep representing the Academy in the ways you were taught as cadets with the increased capabilities of information processing and dissemination capabilities

I ignored AOG for years because all I saw was your hand in my pocket. It's only been the last year or so that I've begun to see more of the AOG. Part of that is my own doing by going out and looking for more but part of it is also your doing. It seems AOG is starting to engage us more.; ; I thing the AOG needs to shift its focus from the USMA fish bowl to the welfare of its members and to helping the grads. AOG should have been a vocal opponent of USMA grads losing their RA commissions. (If you were, I never heard any of it.) AOG should be focusing on our grad morale on active duty and looking at ways to support them and help keep them on active duty (supports the USMA mission and ideals and supports the grads).; ; AOG also needs to continue to move forward in the electronic world and even accelerate its efforts. While I am ahead of most and I get most of my news via email or the Web and rarely look at print anymore, it won't be long before most of our members are this way. By the time the Assembly hits my mailbox, most things in it have already been discussed and analyzed to death online. AOG and USMA need to find some way to become engaged in the online forums like the WP-FORUM on West-Point.ORG. Your relative silence does not look good when we discuss the direction AOG and USMA is heading. We like to have faith in you but silence does not do much against rumor and speculation.

I would appreciate feedback on Item #28.

I commend the leadership for asking us old grads to provide our opinions---; pls. do more --and pls. utilize the capabilities of the local societies to implement AOG programs

A big ATTABOY! or should it be ATTAPERSON!; ; Your strongest attribute is the high quality of the folks on your staff. Surprisingly, the quality even improves as one goes down into the ranks. The indoctrination must be great.

This venue is a good idea. Keep up the good work

Good luck. Change is necessary but do these changes better prepare our cadets to lead soldiers in combat or the nation in peacetime?

Build, support, and enhance electronic dialogue via chat room and scheduled meetings of the membership via the electronic media

I am concerned that our military is becoming the police force for the world. Our military should be constantly preparing for war fighting, the diplomats for the peace keeping. We have so few leaders left who have seen actual combat that I am concerned we will really be bloodied if tested. I was Army but am able to watch the Air Force. Good people are leaving in droves because they are over committed and they see promise after promise being broken. Soldiers and airmen are spending more time deployed than during the nuclear threat of the cold war. Fewer people are being asked to sacrifice more and more.

I do not see where we are tracking the number of graduates who continue to serve in the Army Reserve and National Guard. Even in your question asking me to describe myself, you neglect to ask if I am a Reservist.; ; I do not know the size of the USMA Reserve/National Guard representation, but I would venture to say it is a large number. Why not track the number of Citizen-Soldiers that USMA has put out in the Force Structure? As a member of this group of graduates, I think we deserve some attention, recognition. We didn't just leave the Army after our service obligation, many of us continue to serve.

Like most organizations, AOG is led by the Elders and often seems to have little to offer the younger members. Young members ideas are not solicited and the standard programs do not appeal to younger members. By the time the younger members qualify as Elders, most have lost interest in the organization's goals, functions, activities.; ; What AOG is and what it does is fuzzy to me. Maybe the information is there, but the form, format, content has not been such that it has been readily recognized (by me).

What I have seen is an organization that has been led by the same folks that have led the Army, the Academy, and the Classes. The opportunities for others to participate has not been apparent. I think this is the AOG's greatest weakness.

Stay focused on the really important ideals - USMA must build trustworthy men and women of character - at one time or another we end up back in society and can make a difference.

I've said my piece in para. 17 and 29.

KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!!!!!!; IT IS APPRECIATED!!!!!!!!!

I don't really see an outreach to the minority graduates (specifically African-American) of USMA. I think we need to have a larger representation on the Board of Trustees as well on the AOG leadership as a whole.

Some in our class have been discussing the role of women in the military. Most of the participants agree that their roles should be limited to their physical capabilities and that they should not serve in combat or combat service support units. My personal belief is that the WACS, WAVES and WAFS did a sterling job during and after WWII. We somehow got off the track and into madness when special interest groups who wanted to push social experiments onto the Services lobbied until they were successful in integration of women. That has been disastrous to morale and combat effectiveness. That is one of the reasons for the low reenlistment rates by men and the difficulty in recruiting others. At this rate we may just end up with a force of women only, since men do not want to join organizations which are considered not manly. That applies particularly to men who tend to be aggressive warrior types. If the women like it so much, let them do the whole jog - fighting, and all. Then think where we would be if we ever have to fight another real war against real men. It's long past time that our top military officers put aside their fears of speaking out against the reestablishment that is weakening our military forces and go on the record for doing what's needed for improving military effectiveness rather than being PC clones.

Get involved to the maximum extent possible to stop the conversion of USMA to the academics and standards of a typical civilian university.

THANK YOU.

Remain inert no longer. Start something. How about; an annual seminar and review of the Nation's ; defense posture? To be conducted jointly with; Navy, Air Force and Coast Guard Grad Associations, ; rotating among the four schools. It's a start. ; Enter the public arena or die. The services live in a new world without the skills of institutional; survival.; world they know not how to ;

Hang tough!

I am all for more independence on the part of the AOG.

I appreciate the services that AOG offers and I am glad you are reaching out to see what else you can offer.

Would like to receive information about how I can become involved and help out.

Thank you for this survey

Don't try to grow into a huge services organization. Stick to narrow mission.

I am interested in returning to USMA to teach, but am unaware of the process for becoming an instructor when I am a Reservist. Could AOG help with this?

Your attempts at using the web and email are great and certainly appreciated, but have a long way to go. This survey is writing over itself for example. I'm reading one page superimposed on another. There is some great stuff out there. Pay the money and take the time to do it right - lead the way. I'm sure most of the current work is being done by volunteers and they are fabulous. We could have never gotten started without them. Let's reward their efforts at getting us into the computer age by having a first class presence and recognize those who got us started.

You're doing a great job!

You mean I'll never have a chance to talk to the AOG ever again? If so, that's a problem.

We need more of an outreach program toward:; 1. West Point Societies; 2. Those alumni who are not members of their local WP society.; Need an aggressive information program for the better high schools concerning West Point.;

Great work-thanks for the inclusive nature of the service. It is still the greatest Chain of Command/Concern I know!

The IS support for the AOG and USMA graduates has come a long way and is now a key component of several AOG processes. Continue to expand this integration, and congrats on a job well done!!

I am glad I got an opportunity to express my concerns with the makeup of the Board. Why aren't career officers better represented on it?

Keep seeking improvement and ideas from the membership at large.

If the AOG does not either adopt the modern ; telecommunications modes developed by WP-AOG volunteers or enter into a mutually-supportive relationship with it, I will opt to go 'with' ; WP-AOG' and drop membership in AOG, which is still in the dark ages of Information and Communications and the attendant economics. Not simply because it is more modern, but because it is and can be far more cost effective that the traditional modes used by AOG.; ; I speak from a position of being one of the most ; known and experienced online communicators in the world, and can do, reach more, collaborate more, at 70 years of age with this cursor than a staff ; of 5 people half my age with 10 times the budget I spend in my company.

Nothing - you guys in my opinion do great work. I watch, I listen, and I see many positive things. Thanks for the good work.

The feedback via e-mail is great.; During Sports seasons, is it possible to get scores sent to our e-mail address automatically?

Keep up the good work

I have not been active in AOG but since finding the internet site and receiving information, I find I am still interested. While I will probably never take time to get actively involved I encourage your work and efforts. Most AOG mail I get never gets opened because the information it provides is never what I am interested in at the time. The internet offers a means to reduce junk mail, provide information when needed, and possibly result in increased participation and interest.

We have the greatest Superintendent in the history of USMA! Support him completely and absolutely.; ; BEAT NAVY!

The Executive branch has studiously implemented selection and other processes to deny all military branch academies proper place in development of professional military organization

Try to eliminate as much paper based correspondence as possible.; ; I would be willing to subscribe to an electronic version of the AOG magazines.

Get off your butts and help the Graduates of West Point become a politically viable force.; The Purpose of each graduates attendance at West Point was NOT to join some fraternal organization or become a member of a university social organization. If it was - we certainly would not have attended West Point! So stop trying to be a social organization and get back on track to service to one's country.

Too many classes, including my own and my ; father's, are wasting money building silly ; monuments at WP. Class Gifts are better spent on; those facilities/programs which will significantly ; contribute to the Corps of Cadets, and the Mission ; of USMA.

Why can't we beat Air Force very much in football?

I feel support of class activities and societies, and fund raising should be principal focus.

Keep up the initiatives that assist grads helping other grads find jobs. I am intimately aware of the dilemma since I lost my job 18 months ago and have crawled along being self-employed. Job banks and so on have been very helpful and have provided good leads.

Need better coordination between Alamo Rent-a-Car; expiration date and scheduled events. When traveling back to West Point for the First Annual; Army Football Lettermen's Golf Tournament my Alamo; /AOG discount expired about 15 days prior to my; needing to use it.

Congratulations on exploring the powers of the WWW. As a professional automaton with the Army and now in civilian life I find it refreshing to see this effort. The next step is to open live net forums. you might want to explore some of the capabilities of the WWW campus's that are starting to spring up. You might even get to a point where you may be able to conduct large virtual meeting sessions on-line....good luck.

Need to get younger, senior leadership of the Army involved somehow. When was the last time an active duty BG or MG was on the Board of Trustees? Time? Funding? Maybe we should fund travel?

The progress and improvements to West Point have come from the dedication to excellence of the Supe, the Com and the Dean - not through a blind allegiance to the old ways of doing things in the name of tradition. The quest for excellence is truly never-ending - and those who are officially responsible for the progress of the West Point we all love so fiercely must receive the continuous best feedback we can provide in an upbeat and encouraging way. Get off the nit-picking, ask intelligent questions, use all our influence to support their initiatives, and never, never forget that this is not and never has been about molding an academy that suits our sensibilities, but creating an institution which clearly and visibly upholds our mission to our nation: Duty, Honor, Country.

I believe that, under the surface, there are two subtle issues lurking in the unrest relating to the Supe's emphasis on AOG fund raising:; (1) In the main (although not is all cases) those who stayed the course for a military career are less able to provide substantial support than are those who entered the commercial world early. Leads to something of an inferiority complex - maybe a feeling of betrayal or maybe just a convenient excuse - for the former.; ; (3) Somewhere buried in here is the issue of leader Vs manager, sometimes popping out as the Warrior Spirit. I personally have a world of respect for the present and immediate past Supes ... they are examples of super individuals who were not Inf/Army/FA/ADA and thus not culturally acceptable as senior troop unit commanders (they are my fellow engineers). As I listen to fellow graduates, I think - unfortunately - that there are a number of folks who discount anyone who is not considered a warrior - true combat officer.

In this survey, item 5 above. There should be a selection for Graduates who have left active duty but are still serving proudly in the Reserves and National Guard. Incidences like that hint at Reservist and Guardsmen as Second Class members of the Department of Defense. Fund-raising and memorializing of classes is totally out of hand. If everything proposed is built there will be no room for the Military

Academy, meanwhile, the Battle Monument rots in place. On the occasion of my last visit (in 1991 - perhaps something has been done since), I observed the Battle Monument to be in terrible condition. It seems to me that a better priority for AOG would be to preserve this monument to the officers and men of the Regular Army who fell in the course preserving the Republic, than memorializing every class which ever attended the Academy.

-Read and understand what the grads are telling you in this survey and report back to us on what you are doing about these results.; -Be aggressive to follow-up this initiative and get the volunteers that have come forward to now commit to action in support.

I'm have not kept up-to-date on the Academy. Where would be a good place to find out the current status of USMA, its place in the spectrum of US

defense, the education of military officers, and the expected future of USMA?

Survey is a good idea. I hope you get some good feedback.

Radical thought: Why do we ALWAYS have to name buildings, etc after some person??? I realize it is tradition in some circles, but I get tired of self aggrandizement (this method, by the way, was also very popular in communist Soviet Union). Regarding names, I think we should concentrate on the strength of the institution, its location, and its ideals, and not always name a mass of bricks to some fallible individuals with deep pockets or huge egos, or both (with VERY FEW exceptions). This may not be a popular stand with many members of the board, but it needs to be said.

Please read my note in question 28. It sums up most of my feelings.

It is true that we old grads eventually get out of touch - especially if we are ignored. But classic standards and values do not change. We has beens are well qualified to judge whether or not the Corps has. So long as we apply the classics with inputs from current events and our working knowledge of what is about to happen militarily worldwide.

Thanks for the survey...many of us are nearly converted to electronic correspondence, and this type of communication works well for us. Let the membership take part in things more. I feel left out and I have been on line with you for over 2 years. You're great Americans, serving a fine institution. Keep those of us still serving in the Army on active-duty informed by making it easy and cost effective to stay in-touch, and focus the fund raising schemes on those who's purpose in life is to make money (grads in the civilian workforce).

Doing excellent work with this program.

AOG should represent grads, all grads -- no distinctions, and not be a rubber stamp for the Academy's administration.

Lately, the primary mission of the AOG seems to be soliciting funds for USMA. Promoting USMA is an important role of the AOG since it is important to the graduates. However, It should not be AOG's primary purpose, it fact or appearance. I am especially concerned because USMA is a public institution that is supposed to be supported adequately by the Army not by private contributions. Furthermore, the Army is still my employer. It is very important to me that the AOG remain independent of USMA and the Army. Otherwise these solicitations constitute a serious conflict of interest. I feel as if I am being solicited to donate to my employer through the AOG. ; In general, I am very happy with the AOG, but I am particularly concerned about the above issue.

Step forward and change the trend. Or close it down and let the liberals produce the officer Corps through universities.

You guys are doing great. Let us know how we can influence the academy leadership and political masters.;

I have not received much information except for Army Sports in the last 12 years. E-mail some type of summary monthly to report on issues and progress.

Seth,; ; Have a good holiday season.

Just want to thank all of you for sending this out. This is the first time I recall being able to provide input like this. It is a great idea, and I will continue to search for West Point Graduates who have not received this and get you their email address.

Make the notice through the mails or e-mail more attractive to gain the readers eye.

How can grads (old or otherwise) help the Corps stay on track with respect to the profession of arms. The next crisis can come suddenly and demand a great deal of our young graduate officers. (Reserve or RA commission all the same)

If possible the AOG should do more to counter the widespread attitude that the Corps has gone to hell. Among my classmates ('55) changes in cadet life that have occurred as a natural part of the evolution of society and of the Military Academy, are seen as a disaster (locks on doors, elimination of area tours, changes in the use of class rank, making First Class rooms more comfortable, etc.). I used to think that criticism of West Point by old grads was harmless, but I now realize that it is not.

The AOG has done a splendid job over the past ten years in reorganizing to meet the changing USMA, graduate and public-perception changes. Hats off to you all, and my strong support to Jack Hammock in his leadership.; ; Our young graduates (including my son-in-law) have served, in many cases, for only 3-5 years. They often want to put USMA/Army experience in abeyance (usually only temporarily). They don't see the AOG or Societies as particularly relevant. Accordingly, AOG/Societies are peripheral to their life styles. It is imperative that we remain available and continue reaching out, or we may well lose them permanently, in which case, we lose, they lose, and USMA loses.; ; We worked diligently to help the graduates getting out in 91 - 94 find jobs. The changing economy no longer requires the same level of assistance, now, but it will again.; ; A side thought from a 26 year retiree with a successful second career as president of his own (small) corporation: Many of our graduates do not demonstrate real leadership, aggressiveness and assertiveness when outside of the military. They are often NOT self-starters, but followers who are most comfortable working within well-circumscribed limits. Why didn't I get promoted? I punched the right tickets. Real leadership remains at a premium.

Please explain the latest discussion about USMA going private.

Once again, I feel it is necessary to the nation, those who graduate, and the soldiers that West Point Grads complete a difficult and demanding 4 years. I am very displeased with the directions training and the 4th class system have taken. I am a better officer and person due to my overcoming the difficulties of WP.; ; Also, do not neglect the reserve service of the Grads. I am a very active Major in the Aviation BDE in my state, but your survey only has one block for military = active. Many of us continue to make sacrifices for our country in service. Having done both AC and RC it is easier on active duty. I bet you would be surprised to know how many of us are still serving!

The Association of Graduates should be for the grads, by the grads and of the grads.

I'd sure like to see a brochure for some cruise or some WP item geared to those of us whose budgets reflect the equity of at least a quarter-century of active service ... that is, us poor folk still in debt with kids still in college. AOG appears to be dominated by those who DID NOT serve full careers ... perhaps a miss-perception, but it does appear that those who acquired far more affluence (and, more power to 'em!) than proffered by the active-duty pay scales dominate AOG's financial mentality. Usually out of the league of us Wal-Mart shoppers, and at least I'm starting to take offense.

Keep trying. We know the job has its frustrations

Hang in there, I think you're doing a good job of trying to get the word out to fellow grads, and to gather money to support the institution.;

The one thing that irks me as a retired USAR officer is the disregard USMA and AOG pays those of us who have elected to serve in an alternate manner. Your block five, above, is a case in point.

Thanks for being there and for the renewed energy and initiatives that appear to be flowing from West Point.

GO ARMY!! BEAT NAVY!!

Please see my comments in par. 29 above.; Thanks for the opportunity to comment.

I've really been impressed by the initiatives taken by AOG in recent years to bring us all together, help retiring officers in making the transition to civilian life, and generally being very creative.

The AOG job info was very helpful and was exactly what I think AOG should focus on; graduates helping graduates.

Many of the graduates I have spoken to would like to purchase items that we could get as cadets. These are things like green girls blankets that after many years may need replacing. Is there a way (if not already) that graduates can purchase items from the Cadet Store?

Appreciate the chance to interact.

Keep up the good Work!

The AOG leadership needs to divorce itself from military bureaucracy techniques, become more open and diverse, and focus on the graduate. A step in the right direction would be to limit terms to one on the Board. There are a number of quality graduates who would like to serve. We do not need, nor can we afford, a career Board. The AOG should be organizing a campaign among the Long Grey Line to influence Congress to see the light on this issue. It is certainly the time for those concerned to rally to get this amended. What can you and what can we do to change this? There are certainly enough grads for a formidable lobbying block to effect a change to restore the regular commission.

Be careful in creating a larger bureaucracy during 'Peacetime'.

I have not been active with the AOG since I was very busy in the Army. I just resigned one year ago and I believe that West Point and the Army were great experiences which have given me a tremendous leadership foundation from which I draw from daily. I would like to assist in any way I can to help further the success of West Point and the Army.

My strong feelings regarding the over-emphasis on AOG fund raising, the size of the staff, the set asides of raised funds for fund raising purposes, and the intention to raise funds for purposes that should be supported by appropriated funds. The staff of the AOG has been terrific in bringing our organization into the computer age.; I applaud the new divisions of responsibility in the area of fund raising.; However, The AOG is still FAR TOO Green Suit oriented. How many of the officers are NOT retired military??? ; With all of them having a USA(ret.) after their names it definitely colors their perspective.; Over all however they have come a LONG way since I was a two term Society President back in the late 80's. GO ARMY

It was not my choice to become a civilian, but I am one now. I have remained active in the Reserves (was called back for a year, in fact to support Bosnia at some personal sacrifice), and I believe that my duty to my country and my alma mater is to make myself and my talents available whenever clearly needed. However, I detect two problems as a civilian. One can not be impacted by AOG much except in the form of an informational or educational campaign. That issue is the reception I get from many grads (especially those of the 60's and prior) upon hearing that I am no longer on Active Duty. They give the impression that they think I have shirked my duty and abdicated my responsibilities. An '86 grad (who is an MD) and I even got such a feeling from a past Supe when we introduced ourselves during an Army-Duke football game here in NC. I think many of the older grads should realize that the Army shrank and forced many good people out, and that many of us civilians still contribute via our participation as reservists. Just look at the recent USAR O-4 list!!! The other issue can

be impacted to a degree by AOG. If USMA is going to depend more and more on alumni funding of its activities, it should realize that 1) it has a small alumni base, 2) it should not expect a lot from those who are career military by virtue of the pay system, 3) it will need to depend on it's civilian alumni for the bulk of donations, and 4) it is in USMA's interest to do all it can to help those going into civil life do so under the best possible circumstances (i.e., get good jobs). I certainly do not suggest the prostitution of AOG or its members, but I think people should start to think in terms of how can we make sure that those who DO get out can get the best quality civilian careers?

My main concerns are the rumors I heard about graduates not being commissioned RA. I can't support that idea. How about an opt-out list for those of us who don't want to receive kitschy ads for low quality lamps and desk knick-knacks? If you accomplish the items already stated, things will be much better, and we can fine tune as we go. Thank you for the opportunity to provide comments.

I think that anything that AOG does to promote the welfare of the academy and its graduates is positively received. Additionally, anything that positively promotes and applies the concepts of duty, honor and country is also positive for graduates.

The Assembly magazine is outstanding.

AOG should represent alumni and oppose incorrect Supe or Academy policies

Stop being the alter voice of the superintendent and represent your membership. Don't be afraid to call for support from the membership in opposition to policies and changes that are politically motivated or that do not contribute to the values and ideals that our parents believed in enough to send us to West Point because it blended education with training and personal accountability.

I think that the AOG provides many useful services. I am very appreciative of the work that the AOG does.

Just plain Good Job! Keep it up, and; Thanks for taking up this survey. Please give us the results on the west-point.org e-mail listserver class networks.

I believe taking out the MS courses and starting the military intercession needs to be rethought. Though cadets may not need a semester of Heavy TF tactics, I've really used the knowledge from the old MS101 class which discusses the role of the officer. (Huntington's model) My classmates and I continually go back to that class as the start of our officer professional development. Looking at the current syllabus, I don't think it can be accomplished as thoroughly as needed.

Maybe it is inevitable with the armed forces drawdown and the currently healthy, competitive U.S. economy, but I get concerned with the amount of junior officer recruiting advertisement carried through AOG publications. If the AOG wants to support USMA in maintaining its role of America's premier producer of Army officers (earned by the AOG's members), the association probably should not contribute to the growing perception in the officer corps that USMA graduates' primary goal following graduation is to hook themselves up with a plush, six-figure salary in the civilian workforce.

Good idea. Thanks!

I was medically retired from the Army at FT. Bragg, NC almost 3 years ago due to a serious heart problem. I received a heart transplant in April of 1996 and I'm doing great. I was really looking forward to this year's Founder's Day and to my disbelief, I found out that there would be no Founder's day at Ft. Bragg. The reason I was given was that there were no USMA general officers at Ft. Bragg to sponsor the event. I was also told that when this sad state of affairs was relayed to West Point, basically, the reaction was, what do you want us to do?. I was stationed at Ft. Bragg for the majority of my career and still live in Fayetteville. I can never recall another occasion when there was not a Founder's Day Celebration here. If we can't get a little top level intervention on something like this, what can West Point do for its graduates? Having been in the field and working with recent graduates and talking to outgoing TACS,I am concerned about where the emphasis of the Academy is going. Understand the current leaderships attempts to change but the AOG needs to press for continued emphasis on military education, values, dedication to the Army, selfless service, and the destruction of the 5 year (or less) attitude of graduates. Get the academy back to standards of discipline, honor, pride, and service. The mission of the Army is to win our nations wars - I would think the mission of the Academy would be to develop officers for that intended purpose. If its not, we're wasting taxpayers money and the cadets should look for a free education elsewhere. I would like to see the military placed back in USMA.

AOG, you have a problem.; ; There are a whole bunch of graduates like myself out here who you have not reached effectively. Why not ? Good question. Why not get one of our Star Cadets/Harvard/Wharton/MBA types to put together a marketing plan that works ?

I am concerned about the practice of listing graduates alphabetically by class. This smacks of political correctness, as if someone might be offended by having others see what his class standing. It is a matter of public record (I would assume) and there is no reason not to include it in the Register.

FULL SPEED AHEAD IN THE SAME DIRECTION THAT WE ARE GOING! AND, DON'T THINK THAT YOUR TASK WILL BE EASY!! BEAT NAVY & AIR FORCE!!!!

Expand the Hotel Thayer. Develop adequate lodging and dining facilities at West Point to facilitate class reunions and to encourage graduates to return more frequently to visit and to interact with cadets. I think AOG may need to overhaul itself or better communicate what it does. I would be willing to discuss this more with Seth. I've never felt that the AOG ever did anything for me. Admittedly I've not been a part of the process, but that's because of my perceived lack of support for AOG. I think that AOG should be focused on supporting graduates more so than it supports the Academy. AOG should be concerned with job placements, reduction of the forces, reduction in perceived status of Academy graduates. Where was AOG when Congress increased the initial service obligation to 6 years and at the same time took away a graduates Regular Army commission? Where was AOG when graduates were separated from the Army during downsizing? Did they establish employment placement services, did they lobby Congress that this was a breach of trust with its Regular Army officers? I just don't know, but the impression I get is that they have been more focused on the Academy and it's buildings and grounds and less focused on the graduates. Let's remember that it should be an Association of Graduates with the concerns of the graduates in mind and not a cheering section or fund raiser for the leadership of the Academy.

Being unaware is not disinterested. As evidence, I noted a Wall Street Journal article on the fool who led BS&L for a short period. I wrote the Sup and Dean on this issue. Being a grandfather and business owner and active in my local church takes all the time and energy I have available.

I am extremely displeased about the fund raising efforts of my class/AOG. We have turned ourselves into a telemarketing firm constantly begging for money. I have stated this in writing before but I will say it again. I would not mind paying a yearly fee/dues TO BE A MEMBER OF the AOG. I feel a $20-25 yearly fee (dues)would be fair. The monies collected from membership dues could then be applied to class gifts and various AOG initiatives. I trust both my class leadership and the AOG leadership to spend these funds wisely. My yearly dues proposal would stop this cheap solicitation that is going on at this time.

Assembly, like most Alumni magazines (I guess) focuses solely on good news. There is much bad news, however, that occurs concerning WP that it totally ignores. We are all mature adults and can handle mature discussions of incidents that embarrass WP, such as incidents of cadet in-discipline and/or criminal behavior. I would rather get the hot poop on these incidents from you than from the Washington Post (which off times gets it wrong). Please consider telling us about all the news and not just what makes you proud. Think of it as the journalistic equivalent of WP's whole man concept. In case your reply to this would include something like, ...but there are privacy issues here,..., I would respond that I don't understand why you should be bound by any different standards than reputable newspapers or magazines.

The career transition assistance program was of no help to me in my transition from active duty. I question how active it is. Good idea, but not much help to the older retiring graduates. I applaud the hard work of all involved in making the AOG the productive and relevant organization that it is. On services, would like the Gift Shop catalogue to be on the net. Focus on building a stronger network for graduates. If you are going to ask for money at least provide a service such as a continuing on-line education and/or an active employment network to help out graduates. If we don't help one another - no one else will in the civilian world.

For AOG to be a strong cohesive organization promoting the ideals of WP it has got to have better communication. We in the field, I'm on active duty, just spent 2 years in Turkey, need more information and email can provide that to us - both cheaply and very efficiently.

I am interested in being involved in AOG activities but am at a loss in that my ZIP Code is not supported by any local society according to the office. Our graduates are our best advertising for West Point. The AOG should be more proactive in getting the graduates involved.

Please give Seth my regards, and when I'm in the area, I'll stop by.

Since I have been able to access the website, I have been much better informed concerning issues and happenings at West Point.

1. The four other educational institutions I am associated with are much more aggressive at getting their message out via regular correspondence (e.g., newsletters, alumni bulletins, regional associations). Perhaps there are good reasons for USMA being much less visible (e.g., funding constraints), but the difference is striking. 2. Recently, I considered subscribing again to The Assembly as a means of getting back in touch with USMA. I got a free copy which - if it is representative – was truly disappointing. All the articles looked back at what USMA had been instead of looking forward to what it can be. The class notes of my class and others of my generation were full of news about our children - as if we had passed our prime of contributing to society and there was nothing to report on ourselves - how depressing! Go out and get a copy of an alumni magazine or paper from other top notch institutions in the U.S. - and see the difference in focus.

I was disturbed by the quote attributed to a Lt Col. on the faculty that we don't glorify war anymore. In my cadet days, and when I taught leadership there, we didn't glorify war but we emphasized that the primary reason for West Point was to provide officers who would lead soldiers in battle. As LTG Jim Gavin told my class prior to graduation, our duty was to move to the sound of the guns. West Point should not forget the preeminence of the combat arms, regardless of whether the feelings of those who do not wish to or cannot lead troops in combat are hurt.

1. Find a way to be more interesting; keep us better informed. Your broad responsibilities and serious goals are not for the admin weenies most of us take you for; therefore 2. Become more effective as a business

Thanks for your great help with class activities and the class fund raising program. Keep up the good work!

The AOG has been very supportive in my interaction on class fund projects and other leadership initiatives. In AOG, I realize that sometimes you are Damned if you do etc and I believe that you maintain a good balance for supporting West Point and its grads.

I think the AOG does a good job through Assembly - it's the right type of information at the right interval.

Someone should lobby to create a law about people electing to leave the service prior to their commitment being served. Anyone electing to leave the service prior to their commitment being served (including conscientious objectors) should have to repay the government for all (4 or more) years of schooling on a pro rata basis. This could be done as a government school loan.

We ought to KNOW what the LGL thinks about the changes have USMA and actively pursuing OUR agenda. I have lived in the same place for 5 years now and no one has asked me how I feel about activity at USMA. It seems to me that AOG should be reflecting GRADUATES' opinions back to USMA. It would appear to me that the communication process could now be immensely improved through the electronic medium, particularly including WP-FORUM.

Just to re-emphasize what I have been harping on through this whole survey. The population of grads represents a cross section of society, culture, skills and industries. When we need a specific talent for our organization, we should have an easily accessible database to go into and search for that talent from within our own ranks before looking outside. Likewise, when one of our ranks is looking for a new employment, either by choice or not, he should be able to reach this whole database with the click of a mouse. The association needs to be more proactive in supporting its own membership.

I think that over all, you have been doing a good job. I think that the AOG has the same concerns as most graduates, and is doing what they can to hold the fort. Keep up the good work!

Excellent Survey idea and the way it worked makes it easy to respond. I did this as part of a growing interest in what happens at West Point

Current assignment does not allow me latitude to volunteer for various items. Perhaps in the near future.

Customer service in the gift shop is not up to the standards of the organization.

We need to continue to be a voice for USMA and concentrate our efforts where the Supe needs us most.

Provide on-line information on Class gift donation process

I would just ask that the AOG intensively review all requests from the Supe for funding support. I was concerned while reading the minutes of the last general membership meeting about the Supe requesting that the AOG fund luxury boxes for Michie Stadium.

Nothing at this time.

Keep up the good work. It can't be any fun trying to work with an administration whose so-called ideals are in direct contrast to those of the U.S.M.A.

Please remember that you represent the graduates and not the administration of the academy. If it comes to it we must take POLITICAL positions in support of what we believe in. The AOG is NOT beholden to the political

positions of our elected officials nor obligated to support the military chain of command. Individuals on active duty are so obligated, but not the AOG.; ; One example is how skeletal our military strength has become. Another is how our military is disposed. One more could be (but not necessarily should be) as regards homosexuals in the military. We were not castrated when we became cadets.

I have a closer relationship between myself and the Univ of S. FL. where I received my MS than I do with WP. AOG needs to become a real alumni association. I might personally be missing the boat - but somehow I 'm not sure that it is all me!

Great survey....thanks for the opportunity to respond.

Impress on and educate our national civilian leadership that if we are going to have a small Army, it must be the absolute best. West Point provides part of that best Army that needs to be trained and ready. The current deployment of our Army, in 70-100 places around the globe, is having a negative impact on training and readiness. While the quality of our Army is extremely high, I am concerned about its size and the missions being required of it. We cannot afford to allow our enemies to place us in the position of being unable to respond because our Army is too small and too widely scattered.

I'm sure you've heard it before, but I suspect you will have many old grads who will dry up their donations (or potential donations) as long as they disagree with where USMA and the Army are going. I don't think anyone wants to see the return of mandatory chapel or bracing, but the concept of optional meals tears at the fabric that held classes and companies together. This is but one example. The woman-thing won't be solved until there is some national consensus on roles and career paths. Until then, the together-but-not-equal reality will gnaw at the organization and leave a bitter taste for all.

My problem is my available time. With only so much bandwidth, I have problem doing it all. Hopefully, when I finish school by the middle of 98 I will have more time.

If you would like more input or clarification of any of the issues I have raised, feel free to e-mail me or call me.

I have not been very active, but this electronic communications link and the high of classmates who attended the 20th Reunion and the thought of our 25th Reunion/Bicentennial Celebration is motivating me to become more active.

Fix the AOG staff compensation problem. Why should retirement pay be included in potential staff compensation? Give the AOG President what it takes to hire a competent, qualified staff without regard to their retired pay status.

1. Keep supporting graduates with your services; 2. Get out of fund raising except for class gifts; 3. AOG is OK; USMA is not OK!

The AOG staff is a pleasure to work with.

As I approach retirement from my second career, I believe I will have more time to devote to thinking about sustaining the health and welfare of West Point, and become more active in achieving these ends. Up to now, my feelings toward the AOG have been somewhat benign - I trusted in the AOG leadership and felt they were always doing the best they could always with limited funds. This feeling was based on a limited knowledge of the AOG-certainly partly my fault because I just did not take enough time and interest to dig into issues. However, I detect some winds of change in the air, and if being part of the Information Age is part of it, you have my strong endorsement to open the windows and to air issues with the AOG membership. This survey is a good start.

The goals suggest that there is/are a problem(s) at/in the AOG. There also appears to be little linkage between the goals, the mission statement, and the services provided.; ; I would change the survey to add comment blocks for most of the questions.; ; I would like to get the Register of Graduates on a CD-ROM. You could produce it MUCH cheaper and put in more info.

Periodically publish the West Point Cemetery burial procedures; or, have it available through the AOG web site.

Keep up the good work, especially with this project (survey). My impression is that the AOG has recognized a need to take a fresh look at themselves and this is a good start.

I know this may seem trivial, but I would really like the AOG just to get my information in the graduate directory correct. I have tried several methods, to include a visit to the AOG office on two occasions and still my data is incorrect. It leads me to believe that if they (the AOG ) cannot correct data on grads then how does the other efforts, sorry but it is a feeling I have had and it has tainted my view of the AOG. I know this may not be how the AOG really works, but the small things should count too.

I repeat my last comment. Congress' general trend to downplay service academies. We need to constantly work to educate on the value of them to national interests. Maybe this is an area where AOG can do more.

I assume the tours are making money but I seem to get a lot of info on them

Keep up the great effort.

BEAT NAVY!

Keep up the good work!

I am very pleased with the AOG's performance. I encourage you to keep up the good work and continue to focus on two-way communication.; ; Beat Navy!

I believe the best way to communicate is through a web page.

Put people back in the people business.

Keep up the good work.

Mess hall manners (an etiquette training table) should permit all cadets to know good, formal eating habits. Too many younger grads do not seem to know proper table manners, which is expected of an officer and gentleman.

I'm very impressed with the alumni services that you provide. My wife graduated from a private university that has an excellent alumni program, but it pales in comparison to the AOG. Assembly is an outstanding publication and your efforts to make maximum use of the internet are right on target! While I plan on making a career of the Army, I did make use of your resume service while I was in my decision making process and assure you that it is first class. My wife graduated from a top 25 MBA program this past Spring and continues to be amazed with the phone calls I get from businesses and recruiters who saw my resume in the Academy's directory. This is a great service that you provide to graduates. Keep up the fabulous work!

The days of career military people who automatically support the AOG etc are numbered. As the number of younger grads who are now in civilian careers grows, the communication with this segment needs to be more of a sales pitch. Do not assume that you are entitled to financial support or time. We need the younger crowd, and they have many competing interests. We need to convince them of the merit of each new endeavor.

Don't over emphasize intercollegiate sports if funding gets tight. The best training occurs on the intramural fields. BEAT NAVY!

I applaud the AOG for seeking greater member participation. Perhaps my own lack of participation and attention to AOG activities will be improved as a result.

Please provide a user friendly listing of all electronic resources for grads. I know they are out there, but don't know where to quickly find them (URLs, etc.); ; This may be listed in Assembly, but I am not currently an Assembly subscriber.; ; Also, is it possible to make sections of Assembly available online? I would be specifically interested in reading Class notes. This may already be available, but as I noted above, I wouldn't know where to find it.; ; AOG should keep supporting electronic communications! As AOG and Assembly have always been among the best Alumni support systems in the U.S., so too should our electronic efforts. We should have the best Alumni Intranet as well (if we do already, pardon me for my ignorance - see first point above).; ; This may be an area for expanded volunteer efforts - recruiting and Society support are important ongoing functions, yet fully developing our electronic communications efforts may be AOG's greatest challenge in the next few years. Seek volunteers from the AOG membership - I'm sure many will gladly assist!

I congratulate you on doing an outstanding job! Thank you so much for your outstanding service!

Generally, I'm satisfied with the work of AOG and it's leadership. There may be areas that deserve attention, improvement or addition, but due to my limited knowledge of all the services AOG is to provide I may be remiss in suggesting some.

Most of my awareness of the AOG comes through promotional offerings and the Assembly.; I like the Assembly. I do not care for promotions for credit cards and long distance service as I have stated above. Please do not treat the AOG membership as a promotional mailing list for lots of junk. Please do not sell the list. I do like the AOG gift catalog, especially those items which are collector quality items. Although I have not bought many items, I look forward to seeing what items, such as the commemorative lamp, are being offered.

West Point was a tough place to be, but it has proven to be a great place to be from. Much of that has been and continues to be the result of the fine job done by the AOG. I wish that I had more (or any) free time in order to return the favor. Keep up the good work !

As we all know USMA has been a tremendously important national asset. The legendary leaders who have formed the long gray line must be doing snap rolls in their graves having learned that we are now training national leaders of character instead of combat officers imbued with the traditions and the code of WP. It is not enough to say that recent grads are showing great interest in the combat arms--this should be the only focus. ; And if we do not have the political will to eliminate females from WP, then we ought to at least mandate that male cadets graduate into the combat arms. In my view this is a serious national security issue. I have thanked God many times for WP during my own involvement with combat. Although I was in the AF we all know what a vital role USMA has played in establishing the USAF as a combat force. And I have not forgotten that USMA is the soul of the Army--it will not be much longer unless we get back to the real business of the Academy, providing leaders who can fight and win wars.

I didn't respond in writing to the last few questions, because I really haven't kept up on the issues sufficiently. But I appreciate those who do, and support AOG in its efforts to monitor, and where appropriate to influence, West Point's and the Army's directions, roles, etc.

An idea for fundraising: The USMA library owns many (and possibly all) of the episodes of the West Point television series that aired in the late 1950's and early 1960's (16mm film format). A USMA librarian said that USMA bought the rights to the TV series. I would like to see the West Point TV series complete with commercials made available for sale as a video tape or series of video tapes. I am sure it would sell well with graduates, cadets and their families.

Although I've had only limited direct involvement with AOG, I've been pleased with the work the staff and leadership does. I'm aware of the money pressures USMA faces, but I hope the AOG does not become simply a fund-raising organization.

I strongly believe that the AOG leadership should be focused externally on topics like: congressional funding for the Army and USMA; providing strong input and feedback to the current DOD and Army leadership on values, direction, decisions, vision, etc.; raising the public's perception of the US Army and others and not focused internally on funding new facilities as it seems to be now.

I'm proud, pleased,and happy to be part of the AOG the short time I was privileged to serve on the Board of Trustees was an illuminating experience!!

I have not been very active or pursued assistance from the AOG until I got 'online' with them. I look forward to increased involvement in the future

Encourage communication from the graduates and seek them out. Try to dispel the impression that selection to a board of Trustees is governed by the old boy network; Perhaps conducting AOD B of T meetings in locations other than West Point. Even if it is not the entire board, perhaps subcommittees.

Thanks for representing the rank and file!

Glad to see this survey come about. Suggest the results be fed back to all who responded.

The class gift situation is out of hand. One million dollars for a few polished granite blocks appears excessive to say the least.

I would like to see the AOG be a totally independent voice. My perception(rightly or wrongly) is that there are a number of agendas on going.

I am very, very tired of listening to AOG and West Point wax eloquent about female and minority recruitment. I am very interested in how successful West Point is in providing the Army the best officers it receives from all its commissioning sources. There should never be any doubt as to which commissioning source serves the Army and the country best. If it's not

West Point (or Annapolis or the AF Academy) , then maybe we should shut it (them) down

Make electronic communications with your members a regular thing.

Reach out to your constituents - don't just focus on those who have big bucks

How many of the current faculty were awarded 1st class slugs for sexual misconduct while at the academy and then allowed to return there as a P or Tac?

Hang in there!

My hat is off to whomever is responsible for implementing this survey via the world-wide web. It's a great tool, and I like the way that you've made use of it.

1) You're doing a GREAT JOB! Please keep up the good work for us. Thanks!; ; 2) I like your (AOG) cooperation with West Point.org in providing this survey and kind of information by email. Please continue to work together. I believe this would be a fruitful area to look at increasing the use of this communications means and for AOG to consider helping in funding the maintenance and operation of the net.

As you can see by my responses, West Point is not the over-arching focus of my life. I would much rather see the focus shift towards how can West Point support the goals of the Army rather than how West Point can continue to be relevant as an institution. I think the real reason there is a West Point is to produce leaders in the Army and to serve the nation. West Point is a means to achieve the goal of defense of the nation, not an end to perpetuate an institution.

Thanks for asking. Apologize for the brief and not helpful responses. Would like to participate more. When I retire this spring, will have no excuse for not doing so.

Private fundraising to support USMA is an embarrassment to the nation. If our elected; representatives don't want to fund projects they; should be left undone.

Continue to increase the use of electronic media to get information to the members.

Herbert Hall is Great!!! Nice work!!

Remember who pays you and listen to them.

I would like to be able to play a more active role in the selection of AOG leaders. Trustees should be elected based on at least minimal platform statements.

The Chairman of the AOG is breaking new ground with this Survey, and a host of other powerful actions which reflect his dedication to serving the Long Gray Line, Graduates, and the USMA. Such initiative reflects the courage, vision, and sense of Duty demanded by these times. The Chairman of the Association should articulate a clear Goal with at least two enduring Objectives, each supported by specific courses of action to guide all programs resourced by Graduates. Each program managed by the offices of the Association must be designed to support specific objectives. Progress within each program must be audited to show performance against such aims.

The administrative offices of the Association of Graduates, representing all Graduates, require upgrading in thought, word, deed, modern capacity, and independence from the Government. There is no association, group, or authority, anywhere, with higher accountability, greater rank, or more perfect record than the Long Gray Line. The Association which embodies this timeless legend, is second to none, and must be supported by the finest professional and support staff available, anywhere.

After reading the article about R day in one of the recent Assembly editions, I can't help but feel that the corps is now a proving grounds for the latest fad in training coming from academia. I got the impression that dealing with intense adversity has somehow been overlooked in an attempt to not hurt anybody's feelings. Performing under stress is an important skill and used to start on R day. Nothing I experienced on R day scarred me emotionally or otherwise (especially not COL Robert Tex Turner). I still benefit from my experiences on R day and CBT in that I can think on my feet under pressure. ; ; Furthermore, the suspension of the 4th class system has puzzled me since the day I was informed that I could not raise my voice or come within 18 inches of a plebe. I don't really remember the explanation that well other than this is the way it is now. What was the purpose of this change in policy?; ; I also hear from some of my classmates about the crassness, haughty, and disrespectful behavior coming from recent grads. Perhaps these are individual experiences, but is humility not a desirable trait in a leader?; ; Lastly, I do not want to see our great institution fall prey to the fringe elements and become a microcosm of our media crazed society. Some of the latest policy changes left me with the impression that the Academy is bending to pop culture rather than adhering to 200 years of tried and true principle. I certainly hope our leaders do not stray us down the wrong path.

I really do not think the AOG is too interested in what we have to say.

All they want is money!

Keep supporting the local societies. You will reach more of us if you use that force multiplier.

I still love my Alma Mater and what West Point stands for. We have been and should be better than what we stand for today.

Thanks for this opportunity to speak.

AOG doesn't really touch my life at this stage, but perhaps it should or could. I have the feeling there is great potential given the talent in graduate populace - but potential for what is my question for myself. Even as now an old grad, the organization seems stodgy to me. Credit cards and good deals seem so limited and self serving. Clearly I don't understand how the system works. Perhaps if I did the genius of it all would gleam forth. Find compelling reasons and generate some passion - then contributions will be there.

How about a Branch specific email network...like the follow-me net or treadhead net or rotor.wop. Although my USMA contacts are by Class, my 20 year Army contacts follow Branch lines.

Box 5--Why ignore the (often significant) contributions and service of those Grads in a Reserve Component status???

Thanks for doing the job you are doing. Most graduates don't know about it all. I encourage you to *over-communicate* with graduates.

The recent packet you sent me regarding the need for funds from graduates was excellent. I have never donated in the past because I really didn't understand why I needed to. Now, I will.

Add a Beer Pint Glass to your glassware. It sounds petty, but I collect them and I would love to have a West Point One.;

The AOG Staff needs to recognize graduate membership in the Reserves/National Guard. There are many grads who have left active duty for a wide variety of reasons and have continued their service to the nation in the Reserves or National Guard. In many respects, this is perhaps more difficult than active duty. I don't think it needs to be stressed since our

Alma Mater is designed to provide active duty officers prepared for a career on active duty; but many of us are proud of our Reserve service while maintaining full time civilian employment, family obligations, community service and support of West Point. The AOG has finally included current Reserve assignments in The Register, but you ignored it early in this survey. (See item # 5)

One thing I find extremely disconcerting is the occasional implication that departing from the military prior to retirement is an indication of lack of commitment/patriotism, etc. GEN Meyer took the opportunity to express this view at several times while AOG president. A lot of people (early-mid 1980's classes) left the service because of RIF's/perceived lack of opportunity because of force downsizing. To imply that these people (and I'm one of them) possess lack of character/commitment is a sure fire way to create a drastic cut in willingness to support the AOG/USMA.

How difficult is it to expand the gift shop? Could it be combined with the cadet store? It seems to be redundant operations. Combining would be perhaps more efficient.

All things considered you've got a tough job and are handling it well.

AOG has a good ol'boy reputation.

Develop an electronic process to stop or start the expensive flow of junk mail from the AOG.

We need to revisit the issue of funding for the Academy and Regular Army commissions.

This is my first web based survey--although it was more time consuming than a manual survey, I thought the survey was well done.

Don't act like a fiefdom. Take a second to sit back and figure out how you can really contribute.

I am curious as to how I can obtain more information about the Trustee selection process. I am currently unaware of the methods used to select Trustees.; Also, I am interested to find out how I can volunteer (e.g. admissions, recruiting, etc.). Is this information available through local societies?

I want to bring to your attention the great talent you have in Tom Piazze in the Development group. I have seen him in action both as a donor developer and as a leader. His intelligence, integrity, conscientiousness and people skills are superb. West Point and AOG needs to attract and retain people like Tom for the increasingly important development activity.

There are many other graduates who did not finish a military career. In the future there will be many more. The paradigm is changing AOG has not.

I want to thank you for you efforts and hard work!

We must be careful about trying to be politically correct regardless of the cost. The defense of our country is more important than making every person with a cause happy.

My life is very busy, with family, school, church, and work commitments. I have little time and monetary resources left to follow what's going on with my Alma Mater. We all have to make choices and set priorities in life, and, unfortunately, the AOG is not on my list currently. Therefore, I am not up on what's going on at WP.

I want to thank them for doing a great job. Our AOG is far superior to any other institution I have seen.

1. Walter Cronkite? Are you guys nuts? Talk about poor judgement. Did you consult any AOG members who served in Viet Nam? The AOG leadership has made a real statement about its political bias on this one.; ; 2.I also read the AOG Chairman letter in the latest Assembly. With all the problems besetting the academy, the AOG counts a new software system as a big accomplishment in 1997, and then capitulates on RA commission without a fight. Frankly, the current leadership has marginalized the AOG and left it's vast power untapped, while the future of the academy slips deeper into doubt. It also seems to be indifferent to the protests of the membership, and the pleas for action. Why don't you guys take a look at the advocacy functions of other alumni associations, as well as those of the more successful programs of Washington-based advocacy groups. I am on the board of a similar organization, and we accomplish far more with much less potential support.; ; 3. The AOG leadership has imparted no clear vision to me, and its current accomplishments leave me suspicious of its real intent.

Keep women out of the trenches

They are doing a great job. Let me know if I can help.

AOG has a very tough job in these days of political correctness. Continue to fight fiercely for those things that are necessary and sufficient for achieving the AOG Purpose.

I believe making the individual who was the CEO of Scott Paper out to be a corporate hero was inappropriate. In the Army one does not go into organizations and tear them apart to please stockholders. We take the organizations given us and build them up. I believe this sets a bad example for our future leaders. Our mission as leaders in the Army is to build upon what is given us in the form of personnel, resources and equipment. Effective organizations in the military are not built on fear.

You're doing great things. I do appreciate the hard work and look forward to communicating with you every other month in my assembly article.

In the last ASSEMBLY the AOG column stated that the issue of Reserve Commissions was a non-issue to USNA, and USAFA. What was the reason for this?

Be loud, and be heard. Publish the good news for USMA, something that is probably hard to do by the Academy, since they cannot lobby, being active duty officers and NCOs.

I am please to see the use of the Internet. My congratulations to all involved. I believe expanded use of this media will be very useful on the coming years.

As a Society President, I work closely with the AOG staff. Their support is wonderful. I could not ask for more than they have provided to me.

Sir/Ma'am,; ; I may be overstating this, but I feel that the one thing that has always separated us from all other military institutions is that ALL cadets would go on to serve in the military on active status (save those who are hurt or go on directly to graduate schools), and by giving so many a chance to not serve is making our graduate pool polluted with those lieutenants whom think gosh if I could have just been ranked in the top I could have gotten a reserve commission. It used to be a privilege to graduate there, get your branch and assignment of choice to a unit you'd dreamed of; however, now we will have Fort Livingroom being one of the top choices. Perhaps I am way off on this, but after the last batch of Firsties here at Ft. Campbell (1/502d Infantry) doing CTLT at an infantry unit because they want to experience it before they go into a reserve unit left a real bitter taste in my mouth. Please consider that some of use still believe in a lifetime of service to our country and want to professionally grow in the military before going peacefully into Ft. Livingroom. My apologies if I was too blunt.

I think Lew Allen, who is a nominee for the recognition of Distinguished Graduate again this year, should be selected because he stayed in the Army, he served in positions of great responsibility, both in the service and after his retirement from active duty, and he continues to this day to provide counsel to our civilian leadership on important issues without bringing to the table a personal agenda.

AOG never used to hit my radar screen as I have immersed in the industry world. I now have more contact than before. My wife has found all your products. Your outreach is improving.

Getting on line is a great idea. This is the future! Keep up the good work!

I was not even aware that AOG and West-Point.org were different. I just thought wp.org was part of AOG. I find Wp.org is heading in the right direction in terms of providing services to keep in touch with classmates, etc.

I am proud to be a grad and proud that we have an organization to uphold its traditions and keep us bound together as grads of this great institution and academic showpiece.

I think the Academy needs to re-look how it solicits funds from graduates. Currently, graduates who are still on Active Duty are asked for funds the same way as graduates who left Active Duty. Half of my classmates are out of the Army. The rest of us are the ones who are left to argue with non West Pointers why we still need a West Point. My classmates who left the Army are not keeping the Academy open. They therefore should be expected to provide more financial support than graduates still on Active Duty. I find it insulting whenever I'm asked for the same donation as classmates who went to Harvard Business School and are making over $100,000 per year!; To be very frank, I agree with what a classmate of mine told me many years ago. He said The day I start sending money to West Point is the day West Point starts making me money. He left the Army two years ago and now does give money to the Academy because the Alumni has helped him make money. Graduating from West Point was the greatest accomplishment I ever achieved. I wear my ring every day with pride and work very hard so some people will say that CPT Tull is good example why West Point should stay open because he is a damn fine officer. However, I can honestly say that graduating from the Academy has not helped my career. If I had an senior in high school, I would tell him/her not to go to West Point solely to become an Army officer because you can do that through ROTC and have just as a successful career.

I could not refer to the Goals and Services documents and return to the main survey form. I am an AOL user.

As a recent retiree and civilian, I can tell you that the populace is very uneducated as to the mission, etc. of all the academies. The Army influence, specifically, is very weak in the Southwest.

I am a true believer in the Fourth Class System. The cadets who had the confidence, humility, sense of humor to undergo a stressful first year have been my greatest peers in the Officer Corps. I think we may lose something in the mental toughness in the years to come.; ; I very much agree with the Super’s desire to change the mission statement and admire the need to encourage a career in the Army.

The AOG should spearhead the effort to influence Congress to restore any benefits withdrawn from the Academy through recent legislation. Head up a lobbying effort by making it easier for graduates to make their representatives in congress aware of our position.

Surely there is sufficient Washington experience within the AOG to discuss this issue with Congressional staff members and/or principals without endangering the tax free status of the AOG.

How about a What's New at USMA list. We here there's no longer area tours, and other rumors, but what is really true?

Would prefer to print out this type of survey and responding with more thought.

Thanks for the survey.

Is it possible for AOG to inform and assist active duty grads about teaching/Tac opportunities and how to apply for them?

The ultimate measure of professionalism is service to others. Let us always measure the value of the Association in its service to the Citizen.

I would like to see some applause for the gutsy Major H.R. McMaster (Class of 84 or 85) who just published Dereliction of Duty: Johnson, McNamara, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the Lies That Led to Vietnam. The book is well-researched and pulls no punches. If certain West Pointers were not guilty of lying, they were certainly guilty of quibbling, which was just as much a violation of the honor code when we were cadets. Just wait until this officer gets a hold of the My Lai massacre and its cover-up or are the incriminating documents long since shredded? Recently, a book published by two British journalists did not pull any punches in describing the involvement of certain West Point graduates. If Douglas McArthur were alive what would he say?; ; By the way, McMaster's book is a beautiful case study of Jerry Harvey's "Abilene Paradox" at the National level.; ; Thanks for the opportunity to provide my two cents worth!;

AOG needs to be more involved in policing up the Academy and being an active voice in Academy policies.; ; I care less about benefits that I can receive. I just want more of a say (through AOG) on the future of the Academy.; ; AOG has just been pushing for money for USMA. If we are going to give money and lend time to USMA then we need to have much more of a say and a vote in USMA's direction. I'm a busy individual and my lack of participation in the AOG activities does not reflect my attitude towards the great work your organization does. When I've needed the information, your organization has always provided it.

You folks are doing a great job. Hope to participate more after completing active duty.

I think the AOG does a fine job. Keep up the good work.

This comment relates to questions 29 and 30 above. ; Currently, the Department of Defense and the Services are studying the findings and recommendations developed by the recent Kassebaum-Baker panel concerning gender integration during basic training (and other gender-related issues) in the U.S. armed forces. As the leadership of the Army and USMA conduct their own analyses of the Kassebaum-Baker report, the potential impact of these findings and recommendations on Cadet Basic Training (CBT) and other aspects of cadet training and other activities deserve serious consideration as well. I think the Marine Corps has got it right. During basic training of Marines, soldiers, sailors, and airmen (and USMA cadets), the sexes should be segregated, at least at the platoon and company level. Without this, the training experience for the men (at least for men who are joining the forces required to conduct ground combat i.e. Army and Marines) will not be sufficiently tough and demanding to begin to prepare them for the rigors of combat. In reality, the recommendations of the Kassebaum-Baker panel concerning basic training represent a return to realism and common sense. It would be a shame if the Army (and the leadership at USMA) decided that West Point was somehow above all this or that Cadet Basic Training has a completely different purpose than regular basic training. The losers in the long run will be the cadets, USMA, the Army, and the nation.; ;

This comment relates to questions 29 and 30 above. ; Currently, the Department of Defense and the Services are studying the findings and recommendations developed by the recent Kassebaum-Baker panel concerning gender integration during basic training (and other gender-related issues) in the U.S. armed forces. As the leadership of the Army and USMA conduct their own analyses of the Kassebaum-Baker report, the potential impact of these findings and recommendations on Cadet Basic Training (CBT) and other aspects of cadet training and other activities deserve serious consideration as well. I think the Marine Corps has got it right. During basic training of Marines, soldiers, sailors, and airmen (and USMA cadets), the sexes should be segregated, at least at the platoon and company level. Without this, the training experience for the men (at least for men who are joining the forces required to conduct ground combat i.e. Army and Marines) will not be sufficiently tough and demanding to begin to prepare them for the rigors of combat. In reality, the recommendations of the Kassebaum-Baker panel concerning basic training represent a return to realism and common sense. It would be a shame if the Army (and the leadership at USMA) decided that West Point was somehow above all this or that Cadet Basic Training has a completely different purpose than regular basic training. The losers in the long run will be the cadets, USMA, the Army, and the nation.; ;

Please provide easier access to the USMA USCC regulations and their changes.

I'd like to see more coverage of Club Squad activities. The Crew article in the latest Assembly looks interesting -- how about similar pieces on other Club Squad activities?

Take a closer look at lobbying.

As graduates, we are no longer in the USMA chain of command. So AOG needs to stop being a Yes Man to the Supe and the com about changes in the Corps.

Treat graduates better. I hate the idea of having a reunion in a Holiday Inn 40 miles from West Point. At my graduate school (HARVARD) they erect huge tents, get caterers, and open up the academic rooms with lectures by faculty.

The AOG should not be a rubber stamp for the Supe and his policies. Supes come and go, the AOG should be the institutional memory and advocate for the enduring goals of West Point.

I applaud the steady increase in overall quality of the Assembly over the last few years. It has gone from being something I would only browse for class news, to a genuinely enjoyed magazine with thought-provoking articles and interesting historical perspectives. I find myself looking forward to the next issue, and reading most of the non class-specific content in each one. Well done! and keep up the good work!

Keep up the good work with the Web info. Great job!

I believe that the two most important activities for AOG must be fund-raising and recruiting. All the rest is secondary.

Keep up the great work!

USMA grads should receive regular commission; ; I suspect the next issue will be to cut or eliminate cadet pay and make the whole program an ROTC program... at first it will take the guise of a scholarship program then charge tuition or room and board and living expenses. All of this will be in the name of economics. AOG is helping foster this by funding more and more of the programs through contributions. I am closely connected with the Naval Academy through a sailing program and I see the same thing happening to Navy. USNA is looking for more and more via contributions of cash or kind and greater and greater reliance on volunteer work. The ties are being strained.;

Overall, I think the AOG leaders are doing a tremendous job. Keep it up, keep us informed and keep challenging us to help. Electronic technology is breaking down previous geographical and other barriers to participation/volunteerism of graduates. We need to take advantage of the emerging capabilities to help.

AOG is doing great work! Given the changes in public funding support for

USMA, AOG is more important than ever. Thanks for all the work and performance so far!!!

Please use this opportunity to take a stand that will make a difference and uphold the ideals of West Point.

Keep up the good work.; AOG has come a long way.

Continue to improve communications w/ all members via all means available.

One last emphatic push about the decline in Admissions participation in building cadet candidates in minority communities. What a disappointment in the last year.

Duty-honor-country + family remains a noble goal

Prior to my current duty, I was a staff leader/instructor at the Combined Arms and Services Staff School (CAS3) at Fort Leavenworth for two years ('93-95). I was impressed with the West Pointers that I saw come through this demanding nine week course. They were clearly a notch above their

ROTC and OCS pears when it came to willingness to help the group, confidence, written & oral communication and willingness to consider opinions of their peers. In the three years that I was assigned to CAS3, I only heard of one grad who was less than very good. ; We as staff leaders often discussed our students. Normally at the beginning of a class cycle, a staff leader in talking to fellow staff leaders would first announce happily how many West Pointers were in the 12-13 person staff group, because it was understood that the more the better the group would be in the classroom and on the volleyball court and the greater the individual benefit that every member of the group would gain from his/her CAS3 experience.

I think that there are many of us, like myself, who would be willing to help out if given more information about the type of volunteer services the AOG would like from us.

I am very interested in participating in any of the events/ideas I've discussed above. Also in other modes of input to USMA/AOG; if you need committee members, reviewers, etc., I would love to be involved.

What are the issues that USMA sees, what are concerns and priorities as they currently exist.;

I think West Point is about America, not the Army.

I appreciate the dedication and labor the AOG leadership puts forth for

this worthwhile undertaking. I also applaud the use of technology (this survey, Home Pages, etc) to enhance AOG support of the Academy and graduates.

Dan Christman is doing a damn good job in what is inevitably becoming a tougher and tougher job. I wish him well and I have a lot of faith in him. give him my best.; ;

In light of my comments above, we must show the USMA leadership that as it adjusts to keep the media happy, it must keep in mind that it must sometimes choose the harder right over the easier wrong and defend USMA traditions and ideals (i.e. The 4th Class System) in order to train leaders who have the cajones to wage and win wars.

Hang tough! Keep trying to do what you believe is the right thing, AND TELLUS WHY YOU THINK IT IS!

Keep up the good work getting the word out. Look forward to more opportunities to provide input.

For Hammack & Griffith: Keep up the good work guys, and Thank You!

Though many graduates today go to USMA for just the 'ring', there are still many who are very much career minded. Lets get back to being an institution with a long term focus and an institution which turns out military leaders. ; ; I'm not convinced we should offer all the areas of study that we currently do. Get back to the engineering/math sciences and cut out the soft stuff. Lets develop tough leaders to lead our soldiers in combat in the 21st century. If you want an arts/crafts degree, go somewhere else.; ; All that being said - the 2LTs coming into the Army today out of USMA could run circles around me and my classmates so there is obviously something right happening.

Consider putting Graduate locator service online.

I am just getting involved in the AOG via e-mail and the web pages. As I become more aware of the issues, I will form more opinions and provide feedback.

I think the AOG has done a great job over the years...it has served the Academy well and been responsive to its graduates.

The AOG is not an Association of graduates. It is a fund raising operation that has little touch with its members. The Register is great but beyond that??

Gentlemen, without including names, most of whom I've forgotten, I was a major player in the organization of two of my class reunions held at WP. In general, the comments that I heard from my classmates were very negativetoward AOG and most centered around the issue of who works for whom. The graduates clearly want you to be their mouthpiece to the current powers that be. They do not want an advocate for the superintendent's initiatives. If you want more financial support from my classmates, you are clearly going to have to give them something for their money. They want a voice and they expect it to be AOG.

Please publish breakdown of how graduates rate on Graduate Record Exam and correlate that breakdown; to qualifications at time of admission.

Tell Jack Hammack and Harry Griffith to keep up the good work. I trust them.

The chairman of AOG, as promised, must maintain; a delicate but useful balance between the needs of; WP and its graduates.

You have a challenging and daunting task to ; perform and I applaud you for taking the time to support the graduates the way you ; do.

Find or establish a method of dealing with controversial issues that has the support of the majority of AOG members.

Thanks for making this effort.; ; Par. 5 above => How about a category for those of us who are active in the USAR?; ; Par. 9 above => Nearest society is 100 miles away.

Thanks for the poll.

A number of years ago, I served as a POLO/MALO out of the Rochester, NY area, as well as serving on a Leadership Award committee for the WPSOR (NY). I only served two years, as my civilian duties began to interfere with the needs of the MALO position. Furthermore, I saw specific recruiting

practices and policies with the USMA Admissions Department that I personally disagreed with and felt did not serve the long term needs of the Academy and the Army. As a result of those specific practices, I chose not to return to that activity upon changing to my current position as a management consultant.

There seems to be a lot of confusion as to the Supe's Vision...I'm not sure what the proper forum should be, but I believe that the AOG leadership needs to get to the ground truth on these issues, and communicate them to us...and our response back at the Supe.

place BoT minutes on the web site

Most communications from the AOG seem to be soliciting funds. Active duty graduates have are challenged to provide donations from current pay and benefits. Further, it is often difficult to see the critical need for facilities such as an indoor tennis stadium when the academy has performed its functions well without one for years.

I cannot adequately express the anger I felt over giving the Thayer Award to Cronkite. He is the antithesis of a public servant. What on earth were you thinking of? Perhaps the award should be suspended while a review of the criteria is undertaken.

this survey idea is a great one to give everyone an opportunity to chip in.

More information to the membership would be appreciated.

Yours is a hard task. I'm too far removed to question your judgement. Collectively, you represent the corporate thought of all graduates. Do so wisely and judiciously, but do not back down from issues that impact our core values.

Survey needs a don’t know option on yes or no questions

I was not happy at the lack of space at the new alumni building for graduates. It did not seem like an alumni center, its came across more asan office building for the AOG staff.

Thanks for initiating the survey! A great first step. I feel quite divorced from the AOG, which has always seemed far more gray than green. Having said that, I realize that I'm swimming against the tide...

Our AOG is the BEST alumni association in the country ... I've yet to see or hear of any close seconds! Many of my friends and associates from leading universities & colleges are envious of the AOG.

The AOG works for the grads first, the Sup and Com second.

I believe there are so many talented resources which would be available to us from our members if we opened up the process and asked for help.

I feel the AOG is somewhat focused on itself and its growth and influence.

I feel it should be smaller, have less staff, and be subordinated more to the West Point.

This was an excellent way to get valuable feedback.; Please publish the results.

Continue implementation of programs. Continue to avoid taking an us against them attitude. Continue to expand awareness of the Academy into society - the benefits of the academy in a non-threatening environment.

I found it extremely challenging to transition to civilian professional life. I believe that building a dual professional career with both civilian applicable skills and experience as well as military skills are paramount to total professional development. Efforts to align graduates to assist each other or provide greater opportunities to one another will add great advantages to the education training and professional careers of our graduates. Developing professional business forums using professional civilian businessmen will aid in career enhancement.

I certainly feel, as I'm sure most grads do, that the Academy has been and will continue to be important to this nation's continued survival and success. I appreciate the efforts of the members of the AOG to support the Academy.

Stop using the AOG to provide funds from graduates which simply justify that the AOG is providing funding which is clearly a DOD responsibility. My thought is if America wants an institution which provides the very fiber which holds our country together and keeps the principles of freedom alive-they are going to bite the bullet and pay for it.

USMA trains cadets to lead in combat. The extreme manner in which the Academy leadership has eroded away the Warrior Ethic over the last decade must be stopped. The Academy must return to this purpose and stop letting the fickle opinion polls and generals seeking their mark on the Academy from destroying it further. From all my discussions with grads, it seems that my position is the overwhelming majority. Why then is our input ignored?

Things seem great! Don't spend too much effort looking for something to fix if it's not broken!! This survey seems like a lot of well-intentioned folks are trying to find something to fix. Relax - USMA is a great institution.

Keep up the good work

The AOG is doing a great job supporting graduates and the Academy. Thanks for your efforts!

survey too long

I think this survey is a great idea. I would look forward to any feedback you can provide as a result.; ; I have been very pleased with the AOG, but I have not volunteered any of my time since graduation. I hope someone follows up on the questions dealing with potential volunteers, because I'd be willing to help where needed.

Remember, its not supposed to be easy.

Beat Navy!; And God Bless America.

the AOG process seems to work on a plane that I hardly know exists. it is not covered in great detail in assembly. Perhaps the mundane details should be summarized in periodic letters separate from the assembly sent to all interested parties directly from AOG.

Nothing in particular as they are a house organ interested in survival. Why should they get out of their cocoon?

Put the full gift catalog on-line and make on-line ordering available. It is difficult to order via the phone. Good job on NOT exposing the AOG to a possible loss of tax-free status by attempting to, charge the Reserve Commission windmill.

I would like to see e-mail addresses added as an optional field in the general address information in the annual AOG Register of Graduates.

Get involved with halting the Army's free fall!

Thank you for the opportunity and your interest in my input.

Continue to work to increase pride in members of the Long Gray Line.

It is time to diversify and break up the old boy network. There is a segment of the grad population that is disenfranchised and excluded. Most are lost grads because of it. The long gray line has more hues now ---least we forget.

I have long since been of the opinion that we graduates tend to be snobbish and overly impressed with ourselves, but I am certain that by and large we have provided unselfish service to the country. I expect the AOG to temper the first characteristic (so that the GAP is not unnecessarily alarmed) and the ensure that we and our successors in the LGL are able to provide our contributions. In doing this, I suspect a supporting objective will be in making -- making that keeping -- the Point an excellent institution.

I do not have any experience running an AOG and I have not focused on this. But I generally feel I am drifting away from AOG. The changes in the Academy break the bond between the generations to an extent. I stopped going to Founders Day because it was expensive, older graduate's wives shushed us from talking to our classmates the last time I went (during a performance by an obscure local singing group one of whose members was no doubt related to a grad). I generally sense that there are many sub-markets among the AOG but that AOG only addresses the gray hog who dotes on his alma mater. Many of us do not fit that but neither are we West Point haters. I just spent two hours on the phone with a classmate today. Many of the issues we talked about relate to West Point, like how our WP training relates to problems with civilian superiors in our current organizations. I would love to read articles about such topics, topics that relate to my West Point background and my current life. But you focus mainly on cadets and history and the old days. Seems to my Harvard Business School mind that you would benefit from organizing focus groups of West Pointers of all vintages. Preface the meeting with nothing but an acknowledgement that everyone in the room in a grad then listen to what they talk about when they get together and focus your efforts on the numerous ways that West Point relates to our CURRENT lives. You probably need a Board of Visitors of your own. I sense that AOG is largely a civilian organization, but that AOG staff is mainly career army officers who have hung around Highland Falls for much of their adult lives.

Beat Navy!

I would like to see the gift shop offer cadet sabers.

Candidly, my perception is that my class ('80) is struggling to come to grips with how to get more participation in giving, etc. Is there training available to class leaders on this subject?

With cost cutting efforts in Congress, the future of USMA is somewhat in question. How can the American public continue to fund officer education’s

which are three and four times as expensive as a typical ROTC education?

I've seen the presentation given at the MALO conference which defends this statistic, but I think AOG needs to be even more proactive. We need to find a way to quantify West Point's impact on the well-being of America. How dedicated are our working civilian graduates to the concepts of Duty Honor Country? How has USMA graduate leadership impacted the social and economic well-being of America?

Good idea to use the push approach to communicating with us.

Keep us informed!

My wife and I recently traveled to West Point to visit friends. We were very impressed with the AOG building. However, we were less than impressed with the courtesy and customer service attitude shown by employees of the AOG Gift Store. The women who were working that day were borderline rude when asked about stockage of items. They were apparently more concerned with continuing their discussion about one of the girls social life than with assisting customers. When we returned to our friend's quarters we recounted our experience with our friends, who are also members of the AOG. They echoed our comments and said they too had been unimpressed with service quality at the gift store.; Overall I am very pleased with the AOG. It is an active organization which serves the graduates of the academy well.

Beat Navy (and Air Force)!!

At this point I feel somewhat alienated from my Alma Mater and its leadership...I feel patronized by that leadership. The Hallums debacle was a critical point in this alienation...yes, he's a classmate, however, the whole affair is, to me, a good indication of two things: the isolation of the faculty from what the military is all about, and the differences between pre-1980 graduates andpost-1980 graduates. Good luck in your endeavors!

If you haven't guessed - I am not happy with the AOG - I think it does nothing to represent me and thus I have not contributed in the past. I am proud of my school but very disappointed in what little it has done for me.

I submitted a change for my assembly register entry. Could I receive a confirmation that it has been changed? Thanks

Would like to receive Brief back on the feedings of this survey (electronically).

I was perplexed and strongly opposed to giving Walter Cronkite the Thayer Award. Apparently the Academy wants to be politically correct.

I believe that AOG should lead the way when and as required to lobby for adequate USMA funding and to head off any attack on the academies by those who would see them terminated.

Become much more proactive, instead of a sounding board for all the colonels and flag officers at USMA.

I think AOG is working its problems in a reasonable way. Glad that graduate opinion is being solicited.

Next survey go beyond the Class of 1930 please.

I just graduated in 1993, but in the few short years since then, I have seen a negative trend in the quality of officers graduating from West Point. I am concerned that as the policies and success or failure of theCorps of Cadets was taken out of cadets' hands and made the responsibility of Active Duty Captains, Majors, and Lieutenant Colonels who were ultimately concerned with OERs and promotions; the true meaning of the Honor Code has been gradually lost. Instead of feeling what was right in your heart, cadets learned that their best bet was to try to get away with whatever they could, because it was us (cadets) against them TACs and OCs . Success doesn't belong to the cadets any more; TACs get credit. Failure doesn't burden the souls of cadets anymore; they just get area tours (and not even that anymore).

Everyone read (or re-read) chapter 25, Proud Legions from This Kind of War.

I appreciate your efforts. The few times I have asked for assistance, such as in locating classmates, the service has been good.

Delete my ans. to #5. Use None of the above; PS: I do not agree with graduates having reserve commissions (not regular) on graduation. Why bother going to WP?

When I visited West Point in 1995 for my 10 year reunion, Ike Hall and some of the academic ; areas looked run down. Is enough money being spent on basic building maintenance and cleanliness? I know this is not AOG's area, but I hope you might pass it along to those that can make a change.

Would like LTG Christman's email address.

The AOG is doing a great job! This past summer's leadership conference was a great success.

Focus on what needs to be done without deference to political correctness. Too few active duty officers feel they can say what is on their mind and do what is right; if the AOG can do that as a corporate body, it will be doing a great service to all.

The lengthy lost classmates lists for every class having a reunion seems to me to be an indicator that the AOG is not serving a valued function to a number of graduates. I would recommend that you work to identify some of the best practices of other alumni associations and see if we cannot duplicate them for our own betterment.

After serving overseas and without a computer, I am now getting back on track with the AOG and visit the web pages often and receive the Assembly. I am happy with what the AOG is doing.

1) What can I do to help the AOG in its mission?; 2) How can the AOG help me and fellow graduates?

Beat Navy next year!

Carry tradition forward.

I would like to see, either via electronic mail, postal, or in such as the Assembly, a listing of telephone numbers and names for specific persons at AOG as POCs for any issue.

It's great to see the AOG begin using modern tools for communication with its membership. I believe the Association should make a special award to my classmate, Dempsey Darrow '75, and others who have been instrumental in developing the WP forum!

Please inform me of any Congressional, Defense or Army mandates that may

impact the ideals and welfare of the USMA, or it Graduates as cited in ; #29 above.

The use of the internet and this electronic survey; is a good idea. For your internal use, it may be; useful to compare survey response for this electronic survey vs. other previous paper-based; surveys. I am more apt to complete an electronic; survey such as this than a paper-based one.

Even though I do not participate in class or AOG activities, I still like to maintain these ties with our Rockbound Highland Home. I am still active duty and choose to devote that time when I am not deployed with my wife and twin sons. I think your web site is great, and is the only link for officers like me. Thank You !!!

Overall AOG is a great organization. I am glad we have such dedicated and caring professionals working to make it even greater.

I'm pleased to see the net opening up graduates' direct communication with USMA decision makers and advocates. Believe it's extremely healthy, and can only benefit all concerned. ; ; I believe it important for the AOG and graduates on the grad-sponsored networks to set up the capability to dialog with the general population about the Academy, its mission, and the issues it confronts. We do entirely too much preaching to the choir about the issues the Academy confronts regularly - most of which are old saws recycled periodically through its history. Such a set-up would have many benefits, I believe, and I know there are some folks already supporting such an initiative. Recommend the AOG get involved, and get behind it.

I appreciated the Career Advisory Handbook AOG sent to me at my request. I will send the requested $20 in a couple of months.

Could AOG provide more electronic information on Congressional actions of importance to WP. Also a list of Congressional e-mail addresses for letting my opinion be heard.; Thanks;

Keep up the good work! Thanks for all your efforts.

My current military/civilian status is: reserve ; officer.; --currently I am a senior medical student.; --commencing in June, I will be a resident in; neurosurgery on full deferment from the Army for; eight years. Then I will return to the Army as an; active duty neurosurgeon for at least 9 years.

Am satisfied with AOG's work.; Would expect any significant AOG issues to come out in the Assembly.; Thanks for your efforts. We have behaved like sheep for the last 2o years.

Thank you for reaching out. Your recent proactive approach is greatly appreciated.

I think the AOG might need to step up and be heard a little more in congress and in working with local civilian leadership.

I apologize that I don't know more about AOG and its functions but it currently is low on the priority. Financially, we are marginal and time is tight with this growing family. My priority is to spend it with my children as they grow, despite what I lose professionally.

Thanks for your efforts in the past for reunions and the various services, it is greatly appreciated.; Great Alumni Center.

Keep up the good work. Maybe you should organize a congressional lobbyist group.

Overall I feel you guys are doing a superb job. Please take all of my suggestions in a constructive fashion.

Cadet life should be as mentally and physically challenging as possible. Build as much character as possible during their four short years at USMA. Make sure the Cadets understand what is at stake and that our country will be counting on them to win our next war and bring our soldiers home safely.

I support your hard work. While I criticize, I only want goodness for USMA.; I appreciate the opportunity to respond to this survey From all I've heard and seen, the last decade at USMA (maybe longer) have seen an exceptional improvement in individual cadet development. It is very refreshing (compared to the cynical '70's when I was a cadet). I hope the AOG will continue to pass on to the Supe, Com, and Dean the graduates praise for their fine work in the last few years.

Use the Internet to communicate with Graduates.; Maintain respectable distance from USMA's Army active duty leadership. Your loyalty is to USMA graduates...keep them informed.

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Hang in there!

Please, somebody, gather the strength to move USMA back to producing highly educated WARRIORS; stop worrying about political correctness in peacetime, and realize that the only politically correct action in war is WINNING.; I believe that it is time, also, for someone to find out what problems exist at the platoon and company level in the Army, and not someone with a grudge or someone who can be fooled by commanders whose careers might be on line. After every war our military's preparedness has been lost; Mitchell and Lindbergh were considered fools for their concerns--Hackworth is considered a fool by some today. Is he? I do not know, but it seems to me that those who care about our country and its state of preparedness ought to be doing something to find out.; ;

I am not displeased with anything that the AOG is doing. My singular displeasure is with my own class officers and the lack of information flow with classmates.

Pass along to the AOG leadership that while I have not been much of an AOG member over the years, they can look forward to more of my views this July when Full Dress Gray, the sequel to my first novel, Dress Gray is published by Wm Morrow. Hint: Ry Slaight is now the Supe.

I agree with the current effort of getting feedback from the graduates. A few must of course make the decisions, but I believe this is made easier by knowing what is on the minds of the graduates.

Not much information seems to be flowing regarding plans for the Bicentennial!

I appreciate all that you do and are doing. Keep up the good work in these difficult times.

Thanks for asking!; ; I have monitored (inconsistently) some e-mail discussion on the West Point Forum pertaining to the relative roles and influence in AOG of retired and Active Duty graduates v. resigned and Reserve. If AOG is considering formalizing such a distinction, then I recommend stopping the consideration immediately. It is highly divisive, and it seems like there's enough work to be done in pursuit of AOG's Purpose Statement to go around without creating separate and unequal classes of participation.

I notice a negative trend in views toward West Point Grads while on Active Duty. I hear this a lot: Oh you don't seem like a west pointer. They are all [jerks]. Why are we viewed negatively in many Active duty eyes?

I was full of West Point both while I was a Cadet and as an Infantry Officer. However, when my father passed away, I chose to leave the active duty to look after my father's restaurant. I was then outcast at Ft. Stewart because of my decision, by my BN CO and BDE CO, both USMA graduates.....this left a sour taste in my mouth. I received a 3 block on my first OER merely because I took part in the 1995 VERRP. I was an outstanding officer, dedicated to my soldiers and our mission. I hope someday something happens to change the bad taste that I have. I am very much anxious to be an active part of the AOG, but I have mixed feelings based on my experience with the military.

Stop placing so much emphasis on building more monuments! I won't give another nickel to buy another piece of granite. Figure out a way to develop programs which attract and retain more committed cadets/faculty and I'll try to support them.

I think the AOG and USMA should continue to publish information on the internet. It is convenient and growing in popularity.

Fund Raising has turned out to be a very divisive issue among the graduates. As a result, the fundraisers are suffering some verbal abuse. We have also found a lack of enthusiasm for ideas which are generated by the classes as compared to those generated by the AOG. It is a new game for all of us and a necessary one. Not every graduate believes in the necessity.

1. Founders Day agendas are boring and pompous. Speeches are too long and the programs never allow enough time to mingle and interact with other grads. Other events should be planned by our local society so that those grads who wish to participate may do so. We used to have monthly or quarterly luncheons many years ago, but now there is only Founders Day, an A-N Game Party (which is well done) and a golf tournament. Lets have other local society events for those who are interested.; 2. Put the Register of Graduates on the internet so that those of us online do not have to order the book every year. This would save time, money and paper for all concerned. Internet access to info on grads should be available by name, not Cullum Numbers.; 3. Class notes, memorials, and articles published in the Assembly should be available on the internet long before the magazine arrives. If AOG and class home pages were kept current, we could do away with the Assembly and Register of Grads. Sooner or later this will happen -why not sooner?

Remember those folks you killed in Grenada.; YA HEY!; Custer died for your sins.; ; Lovingly sent,

I would like to be a more active member

If the AOG leadership thinks that WestPoint.org is a critical service, then the graduates at large should be informed and allowed to vote on it.

I am now a civilian living overseas and have a daughter who is well qualified to attend West Point and have found the Congressional appointment process extremely difficult to work with as I have no contact with my home district.

The AOG is a great resource to keep the spirit of West Point alive in USMA graduates. By assisting societies, Founder's Days and similar events, and providing comma links, the AOG keeps the spark alive. It also is provides a vehicle for fund raising -21st century reality - for the USMA's items of excellence. I believe it does both of these well. Whenever the AOG ventures too far from the above, it encounters rocky roads, as graduates vary in their opinion of what needs to be done at WP and by the AOG.

Keep up the good work!

I appreciate this opportunity to comment. I have left some of the survey questions blank. I am interested in the welfare of the academy, but am not able to stay current on all issues that may be impacting the academy.

There is a severe lack of understanding on what the AOG does in terms of fund raising and its distinction from AAA and Army funding. The AOG should clearly define what the differences are.

AOG should support Supe, Dean, Com leadership--not critique from the sidelines. AOG should not be a thorn in the side of the leaders but instead a support organization. Help encourage societies, old grads, etc. to quit telling the Supe what to do from afar.

Give a discount (15%) for graduates at the Gift Shop and treat us with more respect. It is a minor thing that can provide great benefit. Especially, when you consider the high prices for items. I get a 10% discount at the visitor center for being Active Duty!

Warren Hears does an outstanding job for 89...well done.

Beat Navy!

The AOG should support the graduates, both in and out of the service (retired or otherwise). Travel services and the like are nice but not essential to what should be the core services of the graduates. The AOG should also act as a conduit to provide support to the services and the requirements of the active duty and retired personnel (including those that resigned from the service).

We need to have a big celebration when WP turns 200 years old. We should call all the grads from all the classes back to celebrate this event.

Keep up the Good Work!

Updating the annual Registry would be a lot easier (and current) if done via email/web site in addition to regular mail.

Keep up the good work!

In assessing the opportunities for USMA , I suggest that you contact former cadets who have left the academy over the past 30 years and find out what they are doing, find out why they really left. I have met a lot of very talented, successful and contributing former cadets. I often wonder why they really left. The old adage that they couldn't take it falls sheepishly apart when you look at what some of these individuals have done since leaving. ; ;

Keep up the good work. I am new to the digital link, but have maintained contact via mail and phone for almost ten years. I have never had an issue that you could not assist me with. Thanks!

Although this may be considered holding a grudge, I supported the AOG and was happy with its support until I was totally unable to receive any correspondence during my '87-'88 Korea assignment as a lieutenant. After repeated attempts at affecting a change-of-address, I gave up. Until now, I haven't had much involvement with AOG; I hope to change that.

Concentrate on membership to Firstie classes prior to their graduation. It would be nice to have the Firstie's available for a briefing on AOG and also talk about local chapters/societies.

Support Jack Bowen's West Point Ethics program for local schools.;

Make the AOG more relevant. Find business, political, and military leaders among the grad base and include a cross-section on the AOG board. Al Dunlap is creating more headlines than Denny Reimer, but he's never once been mentioned by AOG or the Assembly. West Point has done a great job in creating leaders of our country, but ignores those leaders unless they are wearing a uniform. Wake up to the realities of what graduates are actually doing with their lives.

Thanks.; ; Beat Navy.

Most of us have very limited time in our lives to devote to things outside our immediate concerns of family and job. When asking for our help and time, make sure it is worthwhile.

PLEASE BE SURE TO UPDATE ALL MY CURRENT INFO IN THE DATA BANK: ;

Sometimes the AOG appears to be only interested in money (donations). It really shows--like when I was asked as a Class Scribe to solicit widows of classmates for money. C'mon guys, that's pretty tasteless. Or to encourage non-grads who flunked out to subscribe to Assembly. They may not feel the same about West Point as the grads do.

Let's work on returning West Point to the place of honor that it once held in the Army. We need to strive to ensure that being a West Pointer does not hurt your army career. Make it challenging even if that means we buck the PC police.

Continue to help make USMA a better and more appealing place.

We should consider someone like Senator Bob Dole for the next Thayer Award.

Happy New Year

I believe that there are a lot of grads from my ; generation that would really like to do more for the AOG/WP fund/ class funds, but our financial success is still in process ...

This survey is a good way to reach graduates. I use the Internet and E-mail frequently to communicate and get information. It is very convenient for me.

Keep up the good fight

Nothing would give me greater pleasure than if my expertise as an estate planning insurance salesperson could be used to have a positive impact on the institution I care so much about.; ; I would like the opportunity to share some of my ideas on how I might accomplish this with someone from AOG.

You could be a much stronger organization if you had a better outreach program and were more inclusive in your selection of people to work on projects. Not everyone with a good idea is a retired general.

In response to questions 25 and 26: Just announce where the agenda and minutes of those meetings are on the web so we can see them if we wish.

Provide a very brief outline of subjects discussed with the announcement.

I realize that West Point and the AOG is run (predominantly) by West Pointers who are on the scene and aware of the issues and the facts bearing on those issues. I trust them to do what is best for West Point. I wonder why there is all the complaining, carping and gripping that is done on forums such as West Point Org? Do the same disenfranchised loud mouths communicate as often and as Caustically about the running of their government, the UN, their church, their bank, etc....? Why not? Do they trust those organizations more than they trust USMA and AOG?

Can we clarify the relationship between AOG and WEST-POINT.org? I'm not sure to whom I'm really responding here (or in other cases). This survey was a joint effort? Why? Does WEST-POINT.ORG reach more people? Why?

In general, the AOG is functioning well. The electronic posting of information is helpful in keeping track of issues, but don't clutter up the net with too much irrelevant poop.

as always BEAT NAVY

One thing that I am concerned about is the recent (last few years) graduates having a problem with quibbling. Much of the feedback from the field that I have come across has talked about this issue with the new lieutenants from the Academy...and that really bothers me. After talking with some of the faculty at the Academy, the problem is coming from the top-down....starting in the officer corps. People are more concerned about getting their Ph.D. or spending time with the family, and not looking and what kind of example they are setting. I do not have specific advice to give as to how to address this perceived problem, but a good place to start would be with the Dean and the incident that happened last year with the Behavioral Science Department Head....there is a cancer at the academy and the lifestyle needs to change...you can't ignore it and hope it goes away or just put a Band-Aid over it.

Keep up the good work

I am concerned that the AOG is not supportive of graduates.; 1. I donated money to the building of the Alumni Center. When I tried to use the facility for a party for many of my classmates the cost was prohibitive.; 2. 15% is an exorbitant fee for processing grants to academic research and forwarding gifts to cadet activities. Such a large fee should be reduced or accompanied by a similar level of service in managing the funds.; 3. AOG employees and not Graduates receive discounts at the AOG gift shop. Just who are we serving anyway?

You're doing a good job, but there's always room for improvement. More use of email is good trend.

The gift shop should carry a better selection. I recently visited the USNA gift shop in Annapolis and it was much better. There were many things there I would buy if you carried them.

I think AOG does a great job and I am proud to be a member.

Refer to responses to 25 & 26. I suggest a simple email posting or reminder directing the reader to a website, rather than a lengthy email message.

How was Walter Cronkite nominated and elected to receive the Thayer award? Bad choice! ; ; Two years ago, I nominated Norm Augustine for my class. I never heard back on whether he would be reconsidered on should be nominated again. ; ; Thayer award process need more definition.

Kudo’s for producing and using this survey!!!

Pleasant greetings to Coach/LTC(ret) Mike Mahan. How about an Army Rugby Alumni Club (ARAC). Make membership dues fairly high with different levels (A,B and C sides). Each level has more goodies included: rugby shirts, T-shirts, pins, decals, bumper stickers, etc. This could easily develop into a huge money-making beast. Need a catchy phrase? (I admit this may not pass through the sensors.) Got balls? Play Army Rugby! I'm working on more kinder, gentler phrases. :-)

You will have noted that many questions are unanswered. This is because I do not wish to affect results in any way. As a rule I am not a joiner or active participant in organizations, and I feel that only those who are active should have a voice in the affairs of a group. I, as perhaps other respondents would also, be willing to discuss my comments in more detail as appropriate. LTG Howard Graves did a great job of working the Congress (I was on the SASC Staff at the time).; I hope LTG Christman is doing as well.; ; If you need any help please give me a call

This is a GREAT first step in trying to restore confidence in the AOG. Give comprehensive feedback to all of us who have taken the time to give our thoughts.

Very important to me as a grad for the AOG to keep me informed of DA and/or Congressional generated decisions which will or may adversely impact on the military academy.

Thanks for your work on my behalf. Hi to Seth Hudgins; I haven't had occasion to speak with you since we were plebes together in the 5th New Cadet Company in the summer of 1959.

Most of us are graduates of other institutions too, and have wives/husbands who receive info from their colleges. This give us informal opportunities to compare how West Point tries to fan the fire of support from grads Vs how others do it. In my humble opinion, the AOG has not done nearly as well as have other institutions of equal or lesser rank. I feel more aware of the problems of Vassar College, University of Kentucky, and Darlington School than I do the USMA. All try the old personal contact as well as periodic mailings to keep even the reluctant graduate up to date. I am concerned about the academy, but I don't like having to dig for my information.

Even though the academy leadership likes to compare the academy with the top ten schools in the country the academy has a much different mission. When the academy loses its distinctive character it will be much easier for Congress to eliminate it.

Use this medium for improving communication with your graduates.

In general I think the AOG is doing an outstanding job and truly is one of the premier alumni associations. Some of the local societies are really doing some unique activities and it would be interesting to hear about some of those and leverage lessons learned across other societies.

Tell your story. Until this list service started the only contact was through the Assembly and that was usually not focused on timely issues as it serves the purpose of a historical record for graduates.

Not too much of the touchy - feely approach in matters related to leadership training!

The survey from Question 18 on is garbled.

see previous comments which I realize have little chance of being considered since they are not part of the mainstream of thought

Thanks for the opportunity to sound off

As I have been a civilian now for 20 yrs, I ; really don't have much contact with classmates.

Thank you. You are doing a great job.

Lead. Don't make excuses for why it's not a good time to do something in Washington. What is our fallback position? What can do we do next?; Ref: question #5. I'm now a civilian AND a Reservist. Although there were plenty of categories that could be placed in that box, it would be nice to have included that nice gray area of civil/military service to nation as an option.

Look at what we don't know and attack !

West Point was the single most defining experience of my life. The ideals, traditions, sense of responsibility and honor, integrity, pride and self confidence I derived from the Academy are treasures that must remain in focus for all cadets to come.

Have you talked or contacted the other Academies AOG and see how they are setup and what they are doing to keep up.

You're doing a great job. Thanks

Reinforce values!

I am an active Alumni fund raiser supporter. However I feel overwhelmed by the recent onslaught of fund raising initiatives. I understand the need but am both confused in trying to stay on top of all my WP giving and concerned that we are loosing touch w/ our government roots. We are a viable, important public institution. Our Govt./Appropriated efforts must be increased! Be careful of build your own empire, why not turn over the staff every 3 years??

It would be nice to see the term Graduate or Alumnus on the merchandise available from the AOG. Small point, but it would be nice to be able to differentiate ourselves from the thousands of visitors to West Point.

Need to continue to work hard to BEAT NAVY and Air Force--losses do not help recruiting

I would like to see a commercial on TV, preferably Public Television (yes, there are commercials on PBS, though not of the same ilk as for profit establishments) or NPR which notifies what I consider the Thinking Public of the existence of Service Academies, specifically WP.

The work is challenging; continue the march; pursue qualitative change

the AOG is doing great work. thanks for this opportunity and I hope the comments provided assist us in making the AOG the best it can be in supporting our institution and its graduates.

I strongly support AOG's fundraising effort. This has to be a front burner program. USMA and AOG may have to publicize and explain more why the program is necessary.

I have so far been very pleased with the services provided by AOG. I hope that AOG will continue to increase its use of email and the internet to disseminate information about both USMA and AOG.

Thank you for taking the time and effort to survey the grads

This was a great idea! Keep it up!

Keep up the good work! You are a value added organization!!

I applaud your efforts to communicate on line. I believe this kind of interaction is more personal than a phone call which I never would get around to making, but I spent 30-45mins doing this survey. Nuts? No-why do you think AOL is doing so well?

The AOG has done a GREAT job with the new Assembly!; ; The AOG needs to determine how to channel graduate concerns to the Administration and how the Administration should respond to member concerns.

I think AOG is doing a great job. I worry more about all the active duty professors and leaders at USMA who are happy with their tenure and who have lost touch with the Army.

I hope to take advantage of one of the travel; offers arranged by the AOG sometime, but I am still too actively involved professionally at this time. Keep up the good work.

Thank you for the fine work that you do.

I had the distinct honor of running Founder's Day for the Pikes Peak Chapter last year. I received great support from Greg Louks in finding a guest speaker (LTG Scott) and paying for his travel. As a result, we had the largest Founder's Day activity in years with over 250 attendees. Greg has a lot of energy and does a great job! Thanks for the effort. Follow on or focused surveys may be a good next step. Please be kinder and treat all grads with utmost respect. There are a lot of grads with a lot of money who would be more than willing to donate it if they felt they were really cared for. People who did not stay in the service for a full career are made to feel unwelcome at times, in my opinion. And more often these are the folks who have significant sums of money to donate, only if they're made to feel welcome. Make an effort to seek these people out and we will all benefit. Please add a special Internet link or section for legal references or services. This will help graduates, especially those on active duty who are looking for an attorney with military experience. One Question:; I noticed in a recent publication that AOG had quite a few people in executive positions. Without being critical, why does the AOG need so many executives when the size of the staff is small. Also, does everyone that is responsible for fundraising have annual fundraising goals/dollar amounts upon which they are evaluated?

I don't want to sound like a typical DOG, but I do not feel USMA is necessarily like ROTC, OCS, etc. Therefore, others should not attempt to make it so -- it is different, always has been, always should be so!

I have not been keeping up with what is happening at WP or with AOG very much. Questions were answered the best I could with my limited current knowledge. Email of information would be a great help.

Keep the faith!! Let's not buckle under to every passing social whim that

seems to sweep through our society. We must uphold high standards of duty, honor, and service to country - these are ideals that must not be compromised. Promote the history and tradition of West Point in a proactive way and secure needed funding for the facilities and operations of all the service academies.

I would ask that receipt is acknowledged by the reader, not just the server receiving the bytes. I think that we have the potential to have the most impact at our alma mater; more so than at any other university/college. I hope that we can truly see a tangible contribution other than balance books and monuments. I think the cadets that we try to support are the ones that can best evaluate our contributions. I would ask the firsties what they have seen from the AOG in their four years. If they can see it, even a little bit, then I know we are having a profound effect.

Get a good replacement for Morgan Roseborough

Thanks for all your fine efforts thus far.

AOG is a nebulous organization to me as I have had almost no interaction with it other than the Assembly for 10 years. I would like more info on academy goings on in 'digest' form sent to me electronically just to keep up and not be overly detailed. They are right there and should be more knowledgeable than the rest of us.

We must link USMA's future with the Army's. A strong USMA equals a strong Army!

Funds solicitors should not call graduates they are soliciting funds from cold hearted simply because they disagree with the amount of free time current cadets have in travelling home (i.e. Thanksgiving weekend)

I think the AOG has done and will continue to do a heck of allot more good for the Academy. This note of appreciation goes out to all the unseen grads dedicating themselves to the betterment of future generations of the Academy.

We appreciate your efforts on our behalf and on the behalf of the Academy. I would like to see less emphasis on new buildings, monuments, and facilities, and more on recruiting the best we can find and weeding out the ones who come for the free education and the prestige. In these times we need to toughen our military so that fewer can do more, not use the military for social change or experimentation.

Tried 4 times, cannot get all the way through without some sort of interruption or error message. Would be happy to complete survey, try snail mail.

Suggestion: Charge a nominal $10,15,or 20 dollar annual fee for admission into to AOG instead of free to graduates. Make it optional. See what happens. It's another fund raiser for AOG and it's tax deductible for me. The smallness of the amount shouldn't discourage those that are making much larger donations to AOG or the WP Fund.

Somewhere I've missed the link between the AOG and USMA and myself. I was on the faculty and felt pretty knowledgeable about the academy, but never expected anything from AOG except the magazine, book store at reunions and help with reunions. The message is not getting out. This will become extremely critical if the academy must rely more on private contributions in the future; how are they spent? Who provides the leadership? What is the Supe's role? What is the HQDA role in the spending of private monies? Just sample questions, I have no real gripe about any of this, but do not understand.

Don't be just a mouthpiece for the Sup; Don't dilute yourself by dealing with issues that perpetuate/grow the AOG staff.

Thank you for the support at the 25th. My wife and I had a great time. It was my first time back.

I honestly believe, as much as I love WP, that the day will soon come when we will not be able to argue why the cost of a WP LT is worth it. As a division commander too many WP LTs were cashiered.; I had three versus none from other sources. That is why your field commanders don't see much difference. The pilot who got into the breast feeding situation and her WP husband certainly impugned our reputation. Certainly the other academies

are having trouble. That doesn't help. Merely adds fuel to the fire.

While I strongly support a more open process and significant improvements in communications, the AOG, like any organization must be run by its elected leadership (and not the membership at large). Issues must be debated, alternatives and views solicited, and then decisions made by the elected leadership (not the staff). The AOG needs strong leadership from the board of trustees, with the permanent staff clearly following their direction.

Stay tough and unyielding on those ideals that made you great. I remember the outstanding officers of the Academic Department and TD for who they were rather than what they taught. Keep faculty standards high!!!

I really can not take an active role in AOG activities at the present, but I appreciate the ability to receive information and keep up with friends.

West Point is not just another great school. We have to prove it.

I am concerned with the apparent desire by some of the senior people in the Defense establishment, and the Congress, who seem bent on eliminating the Academy. We have to do something to enhance our image. (Unfortunately, even the football team has an impact on this, I believe.)

Under their real constraints in which they work I think AOG does an excellent job. A we-they i.e. those who served long and those who left early division seems to exist among graduates, don't know how to fix it but recognition of the issue is important

I think the SABRD is one of the best ideas/products to come from the AOG. Other publications are outstanding, too, like Assembly magazine, and the Register of Graduates. Keep up the great work.

I love West Point. I believe very strongly in the purpose of our Academy and feel that our nation desperately needs a light in the storm. We are that light, and only by maintain our personal commitment to continuing the tradition of our fine history can we continue to be what our nation has asked us to be. The American population does not probably realize the turmoil that exists in the army. My career affords me the daily chance to interface with recent graduates and non-grads in our armed forces. They all want to get out. All of them. I can only pray that the next time our country calls, there are enough of us left to rally to the cause. I would love to elaborate here, but my typing skills are poor. Suffice it to say that I am not a crackpot conservative who wants to revert to the old corps. I simply am deeply concerned that the changes we are making in the Academy may not be in the interest of our future grads, our alumnus’s and the citizens of our country. Please contact me. I would love to help.

Why not collate and share with us the results of the survey taken in conjunction with the Special Issue of Assembly in mid-1997?

-Stop bugging people about filling out survey; -Hope you get some valuable input (good luck)

I answered incorrectly on my current status. I am a active member of the Kansas Army National Guard. I work full-time for the ARNG as a military technician.

This is an outstanding step in gaining support of and trust in the AOG.

I hate automated surveys!!!

Encourage the strongest possible effort toward restoring the RA commission.; ;

Thank you for this survey.

Am tired of the AOG constantly asking for donations and pledges for more stone monuments on the West Point grounds.

The AOG leadership is fighting the good fight. Keep the focus on developing USMA and the future of the Corps strong, not providing too many unneeded services for the Old Grads.

My biggest gripe about the AOG is that it all seems to focus on the former-military graduates. Maybe that's just my perception, but it seems so. And that can be a problem. For instance, I get info from the chapter in my home of record. One of the things that happened this year was a get together for the kids heading up to WP this summer with the US Representative in my district. Also attending, I assumed by the mailing I received, were graduates from the area. Well, my HOR is not a military area (Tulsa, OK). So, what grads do you imagine would attend? My guess is those no longer in uniform. Whether retired or not, their finger isn't on the pulse of the Army today. And, if they are not retired grads, then what would a discussion with these young, future officers lead to? My guess again, the potential opportunities in the civilian sector with a WP background. Like it or not, actions speak more loudly than words (lead by example?). I hear discussion routinely about the relevance of WP today. If the AOG is supporting WP the institution, then it must support the Army, not a training ground we knew 5, 10, 25 or however many years ago. METRICS - The Academy appears to need metrics for the goals and missions it gives itself to have a point of reference. Organizations deserve achievable objectives rather than lofty catch phrases. ; FUNDING – Since the inequity between facilities USMA and USAF & USNA is the drumbeat of the need for more funds, will some coverage be given to how we arrived at this sad state of affairs. Was it greater generosity from USAF/ USNA alumni, greater appropriated funding, better use of available funding, or some other reason that achieved their success. I desire a better accounting before staking my funds to an endeavor.; MENTORING - Mentoring used to be the buzzword for years, but I do not recall seeing much in action. I believe the best service the AOG could provide would be helping the process of Mentoring and Networking within the Active Duty community of Graduates. AOG activities appeared to reflect much of the by year group stratification of the school and little gripping hands though it be through the shadows. If the AOG can serve on key purpose it should be in the continuing developing of leaders.

MY CLASS WHICH GRADUATED IN JANUARY 1943 IS NOT THE SAME CLASS WHICH GRADUATED IN JUNE OF 1943. you GUYS AND GALS SEEM TO FORGET THAT.

You are doing a great job, thank you for all your ; underpaid efforts.

Why not put the Assembly on the Web instead of killing trees? I might subscribe again if you did!

I would like to extend my great appreciation to all involved in the efforts of AOG in supporting the USMA family. THANK YOU.

I like the Supe's 'Glasnost' attitude -- very informative and makes me feel like I am still part of the academy.

Representation on the Board of Trustees should not be left up to the decision of the good old boys. There needs to be some more diversification in the group -- this isn't to say those already there are not sincere and hard working -- they just don't adequately represent a true cross-section of Grads.

Have been too far out of touch

Would like to get a list of POCs for local WP societies; for NH as I have recently moved. Thank you!

Enough said already.

Overall, a great job. We have the greatest alumni organization and support of any college or university in America, and I'm familiar with a number of schools.

Use the Electronic media more.

Why do West Pointers - when on active duty - seem to be ashamed of being a graduate? Why isn't their more mentoring among graduates? ; ; Quit trying to compete with Harvard and Princeton and worry more about how we can train and retain folks in the Army

Keep trying to keep fundraising under control. Thousands of charities and associations are resorting to aggressive and tasteless measures in their efforts to raise money. Its important to keep fund raising on a more intellectual level.

BEAT NAVY; ; Can we get more corporate involvement in the financial support of WP?

Mike Mahan and Tom Maertens are without a doubt the two best '70 grads in the AOG organization and should be promoted to the highest levels.

I have trouble getting concerned about the need for new tennis courts. Who cares? I was not an Army athlete, but are recruited tennis players really better officers than others? I understand why it helps to have a wining football team; it helps recruiting and football athletes possess many of the skills of good officership. But, tennis? Let's focus on raising funds to recruit the best officer candidates, not on fielding winning teams in every sport.

I believe allot of grads are unaware of all that is going at USMA and with AOG. We receive the Assembly and solicitations, but don't actually receive info about current activities or issues the Academy leadership feels important.

N/A, part of AOG Leadership.

Keep up the good work!

Stop grubbing for money.

Thanks for spending your time on behalf of USMA! Remember that folks are quick to critique and slow to praise!

Until balance is regained in regard to athletics-academics, I can not financially support any academy fund raising programs.

Please make AOG an organization that we are as proud to members of as we are of being graduates of USMA.

Think Jack Hammack is doing a great job, viz. this survey. I hope our leadership continues in like fashion.

As a MALO and member of the Field Admissions Force, I have little insight into the Civil Prep Scholarship program (I'm not talking about the information that is currently available on the AOG website). If the Field Force is going to be more effective, it needs more information on day-to-day status of candidates being considered for the program and those in the program. If the Field Force is intentionally not given information on the status of the process, then so state - so we'll know not to ask. As a Field Force member, complete information makes me more effective.

none at this time

Thank you for this opportunity to respond.

I think the brick idea in front of the alumni center was a good idea and enjoyed contributing to it.

Fine job. Keep up the good work.

I think we need to use great caution in funding those programs and projects that clearly are a responsibility of the U.S. government. AOG should not become a PHILANTHROPIC Society. We are graduates of a U.S. government entity, namely the U.S. Armed Forces, and should not be expected to take over the fundamental responsibility of the United States White House or Congress, that is to raise and maintain an Army. I assume and believe that USMA falls in this mandate. Use the talents, skills and experience of AOG members to influence legislation and public opinion. USMA is fighting for its existence, and AOG worries about trips and excursions and trying to relieve Congress from financial responsibly to the Academy. Why not try to convince Congress that USMA is different, is needed and will always be needed. Can't do that by sliding away from primary military nature of mission.

Get Active !!! We as an institution cannot sit back in present day and accept what the budget process and ignorant administration and Congress provides. We have the obligation ; to educate them and the public. We are not doing it.

I would like to have direct deposit out of my checking account to donate to the AOG on behalf of my class. It is the baby boomer way, and perhaps it could be invested into an index fund with funds released when a certain minimum is released. I am more likely to give small amounts over a lifetime than large donations, and I think many would. Lets not simply become a rubber stamp for this or any other Supe. We must not be afraid to tell the king he has no clothes when it is appropriate. The AOG is the glue that bonds the academy and graduates by constantly reminding us of our traditions, ideals and contributions that have been made to our country Keep up your good work!; I look forward to 1999 reunion of the class of '64; Best wishes to Seth.

I believe the AOG is doing an outstanding job of maintaining the interest and direction of the Academy and its former graduates.

WP Org and Ditus Bolanos are doing great things. I love getting the Assembly. Thanks for all your support.

Keep up the good work!!

USMA has always been unique...unlike any other institution in the world and many of its Grads have been outstanding leaders. Let's not lose this in the search for progress and improvements.

Let me know it you need any help.

Good job in staying current with new technology

Many graduates are appalled and deeply troubled by the recent changes taking place at West Point and the Army. AOG should take a more active role in presenting our views to the WP leadership and administration. I would like to see the old West Point china be; listed in the catalog. I think this was a commendable effort I apologize for not doing a better job....but I’m working 7 days a week and I snuck this in between clients...I think a repeat of this survey.....much shorter...and rifled to specific subjects, and yearly might make sense... There was a piece about male and female streaking at West Point which recently hit the Web. I did not in the current climate about women in the military find it amusing. I would expect Officers at West Point to put down such childish pranks. I would hope this were an imaginary event. If not where is the discipline.

excellent survey; fine AOG management!

1. Until fairly recently, I have felt USMA and AOG operated remotely and I hadn't a clue what was going on. There appears to be a concerted effort to get information and reactions back from graduates which I appreciate and which has once again peaked my interest in supporting USMA and AOG efforts. I can only hope this trend continues.

1. Until fairly recently, I have felt USMA and AOG operated remotely and I hadn't a clue what was going on. There appears to be a concerted effort to get information and reactions back from graduates which I appreciate and which has once again peaked my interest in supporting USMA and AOG efforts. I can only hope this trend continues.

I appreciate your services and dedication.

We lose credibility if we claim always to need more money. Why not cut back the size of the Corps now the Cold War is over? I'm tired of being solicited for funds for an institution already supported by my tax dollars.

Applaud the email capability that was added to the website -- it has greatly enhanced commo with my fellow classmates -- Thanks!

You're doing a fine job with Assembly and Register- both are superbly prepared. Keep up the good work!

I welcome this effort to involve graduates in a more active manner. Keep it up!!

Use Assembly better. The publication seems bound for necrologic constipation, and often smacks of an AAA promotional pamphlet. It deserves loftier; editorial objectives.

People that are considering attending USMA should be given a chance to speak with Graduates. I don't know if the AOG does this or not, but it can be helpful. My father works at a school district and when he hears of a student that is considering attending USMA, he gives me their phone number so that they can talk to someone that Haas done it. Even though I graduated in 1992, speaking with someone from the same area/school district puts them a little more at ease with the situation. I would be willing to speak with anyone that's interested in attending USMA. If the AOG doesn't do this, it is something that it should consider.

BEAT NAVY; KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

This is the first time I can remember being asked for any input other than money by the AOG. This is a small start. Even when I served as a class trustee while stationed at West Point, I did not feel a part of the process. I am not sure that Military Rank has anything to do with the AOG and perhaps it would be a good gesture to remove that from the process. I know that people even in retirement feel some resistance when rank is involved.

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I hope that the USMA remains a place of honor, integrity, and where America's best future battle leaders are trained for combat. Don't make it a place that focuses on anything but Army (and hopefully Combat Arms) leaders. Make it anything less and the best and brightest might as well go to Texas A&M or the like on a scholarship - might as well not put up with all of the extra bullshit if you're not going to get anything extra out of it... like a Regular Army commission. What a joke. And it really doesn't matter if so and so stays in for 5 years or 25 years - as long as so and so is the best combat platoon leader he or she can be. It seems as though DA is more worried about quantity instead of quality. I served my 5 years - platoon leader 3 times (once in combat in SWA), aide-de-camp to two III Corps Artillery Commanders, Battery XO, and Assistant S-3. Nothing but one-blocks throughout even with some commanders with tough senior rater profiles. I loved the Army and would have stayed in - but I did not think I would have survived 25 years because no longer were real leaders allowed to respectfully speak their mind. I was taught (at USMA by some of my Ps) and believe that real leadership is not afraid to stand up, and stand out if necessary. I know you see these problems and issues, too, from your vantage point. However, perhaps you are in a better position to enact some change.

Get out of the fund-raising business. I dread seeing your mail as much as I do that from Emory University whose only interest in me when I was a government-paid graduate student there was insuring that my tuition fees were paid.

Thanks for your concern about and service to us members.

Jack Hammack and Harry Griffith are the most pro-active leaders the AOG has ever had. Their energy and true concern for the Academy, its graduates and the welfare of its graduates is superb! Keep up the good work.

I am extremely proud to be a West Point grad. The West Point experience is second to none.

I attended my recent 25th reunion. It was definitely the best I have been to. Aside from seeing old friends, Christman was the highlight.

I truly believe there is a need to create a separate political lobbying organiztion to futher the interests of service academies in general, in light of the lack of military backgrounds in Congress and the administration.

The next time you run a survey, please use all means of notification EARLY so we can be prepared to respond to your deadline.

Terrific progress has been made over the last five (5) years toward helping graduates pursue lifetime goals and to stimulate sustained interest in WP. We must vigorously pursue this goal even more aggressively. If we help and support our grads-- in the Army, in civilian life, they will respond and help WP.; ; The work done thru the Society Support Subcommittee must be increased and we definitely need a Marketing Committee/Plan.

Thanks for doing great work in a difficult environment of constrained funding and increased communications (e-mail, fax, phone, etc.) feedback. It is only natural for grads to want more, better, now. Rather than criticize, I think the best feedback is to tell you I appreciate what you do, and while I do not agree with all AOG does, I admire your determination to be the best organization possible. Thanks for helping keep USMA strong. We all owe a great debt of gratitude.

Please correct my personal info in the AOG system. Address is now correct, but I am no longer a 2LT.

Let's not try and compete with the Ivy League schools, but concentrate on making West Point the best military school in the world. It has been and is, but the trend is not in the direction that pleases me.

West Point should fill the needs of the; active service. We do not need 4000 cadets

Thanks for the new way to input our thoughts! In general, keep up the good work!

The comment in #29 !!!

AOG leadership is great, keep it up Seth, Morgan et al.

WE had best fight for maintaing the purpose and principals of West Point as they were. If it ever gets close to being where Congress can say it is just another institution of higher education, we will lose it and THE NATION WILL SUFFER. This doesn't mean that we shouldn't modernize, but we don't dillute its purpose, To train fighting officers for the military.

Set up a PAC to influence congress before its too late. If things keep going the way they are, we won't have a USMA to worry about in the future.

Press on!!

My problem is that I have been passive enough (disconnected) in the past, to not wish to exercise a strong voice, as do some of my classmates.

I'm also concerned about the number of recent graduates (my class--1990--included) who have left the Army so quickly upon graduation. ; I see two possible explanations:; 1. Perhaps we should re-evaluate who is admitted. Does the highest SAT/ACT/class rank make a better leader?; 2. Assuming graduates leave West Point excited about pursuing a career of commissioned service to the nation, what is the Army doing to let them down?

Thank you for conducting this poll. I hope something positive comes from it. Please note that I am not in favor of the heading Defiant as a banner that I wish to recognize for positive change. I believe that such a heading is foolish and counterproductive and also somewhat devisive.

Tackle the reserve commision policy for all service academies!!

AOG has a fundamental error in it's strategy. The strategy should reflect an Association of Graduates, not an Association of USMA.; Focus on the membership, not the institution - that will follow if you are successful with the first.

I am interested in volunteer work. What can I do?

Be open with the membership on all issues. Let them know the bad news as well as the good. The membership wants to be able to trust the association's management, but when the management cloaks its actions in secrecy, this trust is being stretched to the breaking point.

USMA achieved worldwide greatness by bringing each cadet up to its standards of excellence. Lately, USMA appears to have lowered its standards to accomodate the cadets.

A few years ago, when I graduated in 1995, there were seeds of a severe rift between the culture of honor and duty at the academy and the counter-culture of dishonesty and apathy growing among certain core-squad athletic teams (specificly the football team). It concerned me very much that it was becoming cool to be part of the home team which tolerated and covered up daily issues of integrity and duty. This movement needs to be stoped before it destroys everything the academy stands for. Look closely at the daily lives of some of these cadets - it will become apparent that this counter-culture is being fostered through an inequity of treatment between those recruited for sports and those who came to the academy on their own. This movement worried me as a cadet, and I hope that the current administraion is aware of the problem so that they can take drastic measures of discipline within the cadets and staffs of USMA in order to bring about a more positive culture again.

You are doing a fine job. As my career progresses (along with income), I would like to contribute more.

You list Active Duty and Civilian as current military and work status...you should add a Reserve/National Guard status to indicate those still serving in the RC side while pursuing a civilian career.

I would like to see the association begin a drive to restore the RA commission to graduates, even if this entails a longer active duty commitment. Having spent the past fifteen years in an environment populated by National Guard and USAR types, I have been hard put to defend the utility of West Point (as well as Annapolis and Air Force) when the ultimate product is practically the same as an non Federal academy. I believe there is a difference in quality of graduates, whether as company grade officers, or field grade, or private sector CEO's, and this should be rewarded and underlined by an RA commission.

My class '1943 was the January version . Big distinction

With regard to #6 above, I am a past president and other officer positions of the Space Coast West Point Society and a former Admissions Representative working with our local high schools.

I had a personal visit from Tom Maertens last year that was most helpful in letting me know what was going on with the AOG and West Point. Suggest the similar visits be made to groups of individuals in towns and cities across the country.

We need to make sure that the young graduates do not enter the Army with too thick of rose colored glasses. It is a real tough environement out there. That is not always stressed to the young LTs who often enter the service with the expectation that the Army will take care of them. It is a good life, but they have to take care of themselves in the great big world of the Green Machine.

Keep up the good work!

Asking Congress to authorize the active duty time while at USMA to be counted toward good years and retirement points for reserve officers.

Keep up the good work. Survey is a good idea. Glad you had a question for WP Class. Good luck weighing the input from us 'old grads.' Some of the most vocal grads have the least concept of what USMA and the AOG are really doing and why!!!! Mimi

Start being totally honest with grads and stop pandering to the Academy administrations

Please do not overlook those of us in other services. While I realize that the vast majority of members are Army, the rest of us certainly play a significant role.

Why is O-6+ rank needed for AOG President. I don't want the job but I don't see the relevance to the requirement. Perhaps if there was less of this old boy attitude there would be more participation of all graduates. It's not the Association of Former Senior Officers.

Please see #14. It is not clear to me how a visiting grad can use AOG support effectively to make the stay as good as possible.

Pls consider my responses in items 15,17, and 20.

Be pro-active, ie get some balls

Listen carefully to what I have said in my comments to previous items.

Focus more effort on communicating with political leaders on the necessity of the academy(ies) as national institutions preserving the high moral and ethical ideals of our nation, and furnishing leaders for winning our nations wars.

Please get AOG members to be active in helping admissions by getting the word out about West Point to their local communities, and particularly to young people. West Point is a unique part of our nation, but it is under-appreciated by the public because the public is not being adequately informed about USMA. West Point is one of our few truly national universities, and the only one focused on teaching leadership as its primary goal. We graduates need to be its best salesmen.

I have been out of the loop due to illness that continues. Thus I expect to be in and out loop at times. However I think that AOG leadership is a role that probably never satisfies everyone no matter the effort.

I've grown weary of getting a request for money- it seems monthly. Can't tell you why, but I'm more receptive when Kansas State, where I got my masters, asks for support. Something about the process of being asked to fund cadet activities and upgrade the weight room bothers me. Perhaps it is partly, What we had in the sixties was good enough for me and others. Don't know why it isn't good enough for the cadets today. All this extra stuff doesn't seem to make them any more duty oriented. Annecdotally, I don't remember any classmates suing the Army because they weren't being allowed to breast feed durng duty hours. Maybe I hate to think of my money supporting expanded opportunities for that type of cadet. Perhaps I am becoming reclusive, but as the years go by I feel less drawn by the long grey line, than I did in years past. The negative memories of the experience start to obscure the positive. The plebe experience that dehumanized and made us very similar to concentration camp internees weighs on me. Abuses at every level. Probably in that I allowed it to be done to me. I know much of that has changed and rightly so. Those views may change in the future. So I don't sever ties. I just don't work very hard to keep up with USMA and classmates - except for one or two that I got to know better after graduation.

What are your real goals and mission statement?

Take these surveys and the comments made seriously- -and do them often

My primary concern revolves around the belief that Congress and even perhaps the President were elected with the expectation that they know what is best for the country and, consequently, how WP can further the national interest. While I am profoundly out of sympathy with much of what I see happening at WP, I am equally convinced that in a democratic society it is inevitable that others' views will prevail -- at least temporarily and at least on some issues. Consequently, while the mistress of the sword debate, the leadership dept chair, the regular/reserve commission debates, etc., are ones on which I would weigh in on the other side of the current correct view, I am not about to participate in the debate rather than in the election which produces the participants. For example, if Congress or the executive wishes to cut funding, e.g. for the band, you won't see me raising hell about it or rushing to subsidize the academy from my private funds. I will, however, be very active in the political process which brought the dimwits to office.; With a son who graduated in '94, I feel fairly up-to-date on cadet life issues. Don't like what I see, but do realize that it beats the alternatives.; Enough venting.

I had no idea the AOG offered so many services.

I don't think it's important to revise the USMA mission statement. USMA and the public know why USMA exists. There is no reason to change the mission statement - let the traditional statement stand.

To reiterate, Duty, Honor, Country, stressing HONOR, MORALITY, HONESTY, TRUTHFULNESS.

STAY THE COURSE AND QUESTION WHERE THE ACADEMY IS HEADING!!!

STOP being a puppet to the politically correct academy policies

Thanks

Thanks for the varied attempts to reach all of us. I tried to respond to the last noitice I receive but was unable. and If I hadn't received this one I would have missed out on this great way to participate. ; What a wonderful (electronic) world we live in and thank God for those with the knowledge and persistance to use it.

I was embarrassed to see the number of cadet football players crying on national television after the 1997 loss to Navy. Had I seen a single cadet cry after Army's loss of the 1978 Army Navy game I would never have applied to West Point. Sportsmen, soldiers, cadets and future lieutenants don't cry when they lose A GAME. They congratulate the winners and vow to crush them next year. Sorry displays of football sportsmanship and character will limit AOG's ability to raise money for football related projects. Army Rugby seemed to do fine down by the river with next to nothing. Perhaps there is purpose for the dysfunctional leadership of the Fourth Class System - you learn how to not let the bastards get you down.

I have seen a decline in the quality of west point graduates in the past few years. This decline has been recognized and discussed at the battalion level in my units.

Pretty easy answers -- probably because I haven't stayed sufficiently closeto the issues. I'm sure there's room for improvement, but in ten minutes I don't know what it might be.

ref the Assembly, I read the Assembly at the library- you did not include this as a possible answer.

Process needs to be more open and focused.

This is a great idea (the email survey)! Long overdue. Keep it going...

See response to Item 31.

There should be a program to track West Point graduates that are married to each other. My wife is a graduate also. She currently receives the assembly, which I understand her class gets credit for. Both classes should get credit. We are not going to order two copies. ; Also, we receive double mailings of everything you send out. If it is not class or individual dependent, one mailing would be sufficient and save you money.

I've never failed to be proud of my West Point background and find support for that pride from everyone with whom I come in contact.

I admire the way you are trying to satisfy graduates' concerns, not about themselves but about West Point and its orientation.

Consider limiting AOG perks to grads who decline to serve their 5 year commitment - too many of the Class of 93 are enjoying the diploma and the AOG services without having met their service obligation.

Just happy to HAVE A CHANCE TO BE PART OF THE GROUP AGAIN.

Sorry I'm late. I was away for two week over Christmas, and I arrived back in the Great State of Maine on the 5th of Jan. On the 6th, I started the survey. Then the Great Ice Storm of 98 hit and I was without power for 10 days. When power came back, we were without cable ( I access via cable modem) for a few more days. It's been quite a Jan.

I am impressed w/ the espanded (and needed); role of AOG...much more visible and effective; than 10-15 yrs back. ;

Improve admin services. I have received at least 2 incorrect notices on monies due from me recently

Is there an annual accounting of the West Point Fund (i.e., a profit and loss statement and balance sheet)?; Keep up the good work.

See Item 14. Be open with members about FACTS of the Dan Willson matter. What happened? What is happening? What has it cost the AOG to date? What are our potential liabilities? Why have we heard nothing from our leadership?

Need to keep the graduates informed re AOG and USMA

Keep it up, and give LTC (ret) Fishburne a 20% raise.

I see a lot od ads for trips that look great. Maybe more advertising of services would help to inform those like me who are mostly not closely connected to AOGs efforts and goals.

Question 11 assumes that everyone has a computer and has email or is on the net. I get most of my information from USMA publications (Assembly,etc). The only reason my husband and I are on the net and have email is because we a facing a one year unaccompanied tour. Please do not forget to also use the post office to desseminate information grads especially when you need their input. Your results will be more accurate.

How are the goals of the AOG measured? An objective annual assessment of achievements versus goals published in the Assemble would be a positive step.

More active politically before congress educating the congress; Be a conduit for graduate concerns over erosion of standards at West Point; West Point should be run as a premier institution having the toughest of army standards, not just meeting current standards in the army

I think the AOG gift shop at West Point needs to be open on the weekends, which is the most common time for grads to visit.