Q16: Are these the goals you want AOG to have for 1997-1999? |
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2. Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the AOG membership and the AOG management.
3. Continue to improve the communication process between the AOG staff, AOG membership, the extended West Point family, USMA, the U.S. Army, and the American public.
4. Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in the Army.
5. (a) Monitor the expansion of
the WPF and the development of the 2002 capital campaign.
(b) Assist
the WPF in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project.
6. Improve the coordination between USMA/AAA/AOG.
7. Develop a comprehensive compensation/benefit package for AOG employees.
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A total of 940 graduates entered 1480 comments
making recommendations for change and improvements to the AOG goals.
Graduates want goals supporting all graduates rather than one particular
group. They want efforts taken to bind all together through better
communications and activities. Increased efforts to gain public,
congressional, and DOD support for West Point, as well as the AOG exercising
greater influence on maintaining the highest of standards at USMA were
strong points. Many expressed a desire to see the return of regular
commissions for graduates. The responses were categorized as follows.
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The following are the raw comments collected for this survey question. The numbers serve only to identify the comment for this question and do not serve any other identification purpose:
[001] 1. AOG should be dedicated to representing USMA Graduates.
[002] The current goals lists lacks a statment expressing a commitment
to improving services to graduates, which is an extensive and welcome aspect
of the current Exec Dir's stewardship. These should be specifically cited.
An additional goal, unstated in this list, is that of providing a link
between the graduate and the Corps of Cadets by furthering AOG financial
support for cadet activities. I regard this as separate and distinct from
WPF and Proj 2002 "monitorship."
[003] I think AOG should do more in coordinating with the USMA staff
to preserve traditions that should be preserved. Over the last few years,
I think too many changes have been made capricously in the name of making
USMA more like the "real army" which only exists in the minds of the thinker
at the time. Cadets aren't privates and shouldn't be thought of that way,
nor are they officers or NCOs. They are West Point cadets being trained
to be leaders of characters. I don't think you can get there by training
them to act like privates, etc. I would be gald to elaborate if you care
to discuss this further.
[004] I'm not sure what the goal of creating an "AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army" means. Assist with what? I hope within the AOG
goals there is room for effort to preserve what in my day was called the
"Thayer" educational system. Too many of the word of mouth changes I hear
about seem to be remaking West Point in the image of a state university.
Any outreach programs should be race and gender neutral.
[005] They seem adequate, but 1,2 and 3 sound like you're not doing
that now, when I believe you are. You just want to improve those functions.
[006] Delete 2, 4, 5, and 7
[007] Assist USMA graduates who have left active duty in finding
employment and in networking.
[008] The first two are standard, and are unneeded. The rest are
very broad and does not tell anyone of the specific parameters you are
trying to acheive. Also, goals need to be more focused on better use of
donations to some extent. The buying of expensive statues etc. in the face
of a budget crunch throughout the gov't is not prudent if the school is
being cut dollars.
[009] 3 cheers for #4!!
[010] (Ref para 3) If possible, could the AOG also look at improved
communications with the legislative branch of the federal government?
[011] Should the AOG be an organizaion that facilitates between the
academy and it's graduates - increase awareness of ongoing academy programs,
activities and needs; provide an active outreach program to broaden graduate
involvement in AOG/Academy forums; develop programs to support the long
terms needs of the academy and it;'s graduates.
[012] These sound like "how do I get more money for the management".
[013] Please be more specific/quantifiable. How do you intend to
measure the progress made towards specific goal? When will you declare
achievement of a goal? Again, I would look outside the Academy for what
other educational institutions are aiming for, to ensure we have thought
of everything and are comparing our performance to the "Best Practices"
around. If this has been done then, we can improve our level of confidence
that we have an effective AOG.
[014] Open the books to graduates. Account for the 15% overhead that
is currently taken from all checks. Provide details on the management of
the endowment, ie rate of return.
[015] Career transition services.
[016] 1. Instill pride. I do not find this appropriate. I am proud
that I am a graduate of USMA, not that I am a member of the AOG. I do not
think the AOG can do anything to increase my "pride" in being a USMA grad.
2. Bond of Trust. Since I understand that the AOG management are all USMA
grads, I trust them. I just do not know what they actually do. 3. Improve
communications: I would like to see an emphasis on communications with
GAP - the Great American Public. I think the primary focus of the AOG should
be to enhance the image of USMA in the eyes of GAP. The only publicity
seems to be negative, we make the papers when there is a scandal of some
sort, but do nothing to let people know of the good things that happen
at USMA. 4. I do not know what kind of assistance is being contemplated.
This should be more specific. 5. Fundraising seems to be appropriate 6.
I did not know that there was a problem with the current coordination between
these entities. If there is, it should be easily solved and should not
require much effort. If it is a significant problem, I would need more
information about the problems to determine the source - perhaps the source
is the AOG itself. 7. Just like we should take of the troops, we should
take care of the AOG employees.
[017] Add-- 1. Develop a plan to tell the West Point story to the
public. Solicit funds to produce and tell this story in multi media formats.
2. Develop a plan to develop better congressional support and interest
in West Point. Especially support for fully funding all requirements of
USMA.
[018] Any association of gradutes (from any school) should have as
its primary goals the overall success in life of its graduates, the continued
prosperity of the instutionion itself, and the individual success of its
graduates. These three goals can and should be met in many forms and fashions,
but should nontheless remain the focus. Take Harvard as an example. Harvard
graduates go out of their way to have active fellowship with one another;
the help each other succeed in their careers; and watch very carefully
over the school itself. When necessary, the close ranks around the school
or each other. That is what an alumni association should do. I am not advocating
a return to the "West Point Protective Society" as I've heard the old days
of "ring knockers" called. But graduates should not be ashamed either for
making special efforts to mentor, advise, and, yes, open doors for fellow
graduates. At the same time, we have a duty to watch over the health and
welfare of our alma mater.
[019] Separate the AOG and WPF. Do not understand what #6 means.
Do not see a need for #4.
[020] The frequent solicitation for money is wearing thin because
everybody (AAA,AOG, Class Projects etc.) all need funds. There are real
problems long term in the Army especially in the benefits arena (medical)
that condition what people can support. Not all grads are terribly flush.
[021] How about mentioning those graduates no longer in the Army?
[022] 1 is lame. Our pride is associated with the institution, not
the self-agrandizing, self-sustaining AOG. 2 is arrogantly backwards. The
AOG doesn't trust grads - witness the way grads are treated at Herbert
Hall. 3 "improve the communication process" is a meaninglessly weak bureaucratic
phrase. 4 Promising, but what does it mean? 5 eliminate. I'm sick of the
jock focus. 6 meaningless gibberish. 7 not a goal that interests me.
[023] Build public support for USMA
[024] Add a goal related to recruiting/admissions support
[025] Add Assist in building multiple channels of association: ideals,
friendships, commercial.
[026] Lobby to restore federal funding cuts to USMA Provide the Supt
with honest, realistic feedback about his fundraising fantasies.
[027] You have combined goals of the AOG as an organization with
the goals for managing the organization staff. I believe these should be
separated and graduates should be concerned with the former. While I have
no complaint with the goals for managing the staff, I'm ready to entrust
those to Jack Hammack and the Board. If you focus on what the AOG should
accomplish, I think you should consider a more aggressive advocacy. Specifically,
there are PR and lobbying activities that USMA and the Army probably cannot
address. I think we can tastefully and positively advance the public's
understanding of West Point and that this should be a goal.
[028] We should add a goal designed around the graduates themselves.
If we focus on graduates (ie. help graduates) they in turn will help the
AOG accomplish all of its goals.
[029] I believe emphasis on Athletics is the wrong focus for this
time with other more pressing issues at hand such as the need to reinstate
the awarding of Regular Commissions.
[030] Except emphasis on support of Athletic Dept
[031] With the exception of the goal for graduates, every function
is directly related to fundraising or the growth of the AOG organization
[032] I do not really understand what is meant by goal #1 - "Instill
pride in the AOG membership" Pride in what? Is it pride in being a member
of the "Long Grey Line", pride in being a member of the AOG, or something
else? Goal #2 is much more focused and I do understand and agree with it.
[033] Recruitment of future cadets is fine, but I object to preferential
treatment being giving to anyone.
[034] The AOG needs to represent the graduates to the USMA administration
on those important issues that affect USMA programs and goals, particularily
thiose affecting cadet education and training
[035] See # 15.
[036] Internet error in script when attempting to view goals.
[037] Don't like "Y" or "N"-- is #7 a problem? #2 & #5 really
need work. #5b is for the birds! #3 also needs a scrubbing.
[038] Comment: I have trouble seeing that the goals fully support
the above mission statement.
[039] Delete #4 - "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army."
[040] CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY BURNISH THE MILITARY ACADEMY'S IMAGE
TO AMERICA AND THE WORLD, WITH SPECIFIC FOCUS ON KEY CORPORATE AND ELECTED
POLITICAL LEADERS.
[041] Goal 4 and Goal 7 do not look like major goals for an association
such as ours.
[042] I am unccomfortable with the idea of supporting capital prorams.
[043] ADD== ESTABLISHMENT OF A MINORITY ENDOWMENT FUND. I KNOW SEVERAL--AND
I DO MEAN "SEVERAL"--PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING FOR SUCH A SITE TO EMERGE.
LAST YEAR, I ASKED THE AOG TO GRANT A PORTION OF MY DONATION TO ASSIST
THE CADET GOSPEL CHOIR, BECAUSE SUCH A SITE WAS NONEXISTENT.
[044] more active support for intercollegiate athletics
[045] OK as far as they go, but see my comments below.
[046] Define and promote minority representation in the Corps of
Cadets for the 21st century.
[047] I suuport all the goals listed; however, I am most interested
in the plans to increase compensation and benefits for AOG employees. Their
work is vital, but funds raised in support of West Point should not be
routed to pay and benefits. What are the current compensation schedules
and where do are these funds procured?
[048] Goal number 4 is great. The grads need to have a survival kit
when they reach active duty. Is there a way we can also add one about helping
cadets, while they are still at USMA, to be ready for life after they leave
"mother West Point"?
[049] Add assistance to Admissions, recruiting, and local support
of cadet activities while in local Society areas.
[050] 5. Should be eliminated as a primary goal. This is, and should
be, a minor function. 6. AAA should be eliminated -- again this should
be a relatively minor function rather than a goal. Recommendation: Pick
up some of the political-support, strategy and direction thoughts from
the Mission statement comments made above.
[051] Re #4: Does assistance imply aid while still on active duty?
There is certainly no need to help those who resign or who are on retired
pay.
[052] More advocacy work to improve the status of West Point, such
as working to reinstate Regular commissions for USMA grads, returning to
basic academic program, for instance.
[053] Delete goal which provides funding for USMA operations.
[054] If graduates are board members of the AOG, and we need to instill
trust and confidence, we have lost a big battle. What is an AOG assistance
package? I believe there is already plenty of pride that exists in all
members of the AOG.
[055] but, #1 should also include a goal of expanded membership.
[056] See Purpose Statement above.
[057] I don't see why pride in AOG membership is a goal; the pride
should be in being a USMA graduate. If you (we) accomplish the other goals,
then pride would follow.
[058] Aid and maintain communications between graduates throughout
their careers in and out of the Army.
[059] Improve visitor housing at West Point Prepare for West Point's
200th Anniversary
[060] Whatever
[061] Item 1 is a given. Focus should be on pride in and support
for USMA not ourselves. Item 3 is too broad.
[062] delete pride.this will follow naturally after confidenceis
established per goal2.
[063] Need more definition on what the assistance package is for
active duty.
[064] I fully support these goals. However, is there any type of
strategy in place that will assist the AOG in achieving these goals? For
instance, goal @1 (..pride in the AOG membership) is a good goal, but one
that is difficult to measure. How are you going to instill pride? Just
a thought. I like the goals; however, am concerned on the how the AOG is
going to accomplish them.
[065] Goal 5. Delete Army Athletic Project. Support of athletics
is important but so are other needs. Add. Develop data bases and information
on key issues, especially issues of concern to AOG members (such as RA
Commissions), which can be accessed by AOG members to determine their personal
positions.
[066] Goal 4. Why does this apply only the Army graduates? I assume
the AOG would be willing to assist grads in any service or out. Or do I
misunderstand the purpose of an "assistance lpackage"?
[067] While I support athletics, the goal of USMA is to provide the
country with Army officers. We should not be in the business of providing
professional football players.
[068] Not sure what is meant by Goal 4 Goal 5 is strictly short term
and too limited
[069] An effort should be made to make public the success of USMA.
This is especially true during a period of prosperity and peace as it will
enhance efforts to recruit outstanding people.
[070] It is time for AOG to actively pursue building a hotel on the
Academy grounds which will accomodate classes and their spouses for reunions,
football games, etc. It is economical and logical to have such a facility
close at hand, as opposed to using buses to move from facilities in New
Jersey or up the Hudson. If MacDonalds and Burger Kind can build on bases/posts,
why can't Marriott or Holiday Inn or any other large firms build at West
Point?
[071] I think linking Graduates (AOG) and USMA more closely should
be the number 1 goal.
[072] The problem I see in the list of goals is that they are designed
to get the AOG going and to be sure graduates have faith in the AOG and
can communicate. That seems to be what it should be as a given. See #17
below.
[073] Corps squad athetics are important, however I believe they
should be the same footing as club squad for AOG assistance/funding.
[074] I'm not sure an employee compensation package should be an
overall goal of the organization.
[075] AOG needs to be a more politically active group to ensure West
Point is adequately funded and supported by congress and the administration.
[076] To assist former graduates as they transition to civilian employment.
[077] These appear to be fine as long as our reason for having an
AOG is not in some sort of jeopardy.
[078] Generally agree but use only of "Army" tends to leave the Air
Force and a few others in a forgotten category.
[079] Eliminate goal 4
[080] You've listed a "support package" for graduates wh o ar in
the Army. What about graduates who are no longer in the Army?
[081] 1. Assist the supe in finding the right way to go. Do not agree
with ALL his proposal. West Point can be ruined by activities such as the
firing of Col. Hallums, and concurrence with the provosions of the The
National Defense Authorization Act which stopped the granting of regular
commissions.
[082] Consider expanding the goal "Develop an AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army" to include assistance for all graduates and
spouses (including widows/widowers) where needed.
[083] regular army commissions
[084] See note above.
[085] Work with the current USMA and Army staffs to ensure that the
cadet development program remains focused on developing competent leaders
capable of performing under stress. During my short service so far, it
is clear that new graduates are not hardened by the same level of sustained
mental and physical stress that has made the academy experience unique
for almost 200 years. While elements of the fourth class system were admittedly
not a "positive leadership example" as proponents of the new look program
argue, the fourth class system taught us perseverance. People of strong
character learn to lead. I argue that this perseverance and ability to
peak under stress is the foundation of the character required for leadership.
One of my favorite maxims is that making things easy for soldiers is not
taking care of soldiers. This applies to cadets particularly. I would offer
far more aggressive support to AOG if the organization devoted more effort
to influencing the cadet experience accordingly.
[086] How about weighing in a bit about the academic and leadership
programs at the academy instead of always ranking the athletic programs
as most important. Even if you protest that you are not emphasizing athletics
at the expense of the other facets of academy life, your actions (and these
goals) argue differently.
[087] I see the goals as being very tilted toward what graduates
can do for the Academy. I'd like to see a more balanced approach that also
addresses what the AOG can/will do dor graduates.
[088] Unable to see list
[089] Three additional goals are needed or should replace some of
the current goals: 1. Some reference to the focus on the role Society's
play within the AOG. 2. Some reference to the focus on the role the Class
structure plays within the AOG. 3. Stronger reference to supporting the
admission's process.
[090] 4. Develop an AOG assistance package for _graduates_in_the_Army_.
First, what about USMA grads in other services (e.g., Air Force). Also,
this sounds like the sort of West Point Protective Assn that folks from
other commissioning sources gripe about.
[091] The better communication is good. I probably haven't been reading
all the email, newsletter and obviously have not been suscribing to Assembly,
but I feel that I don't know exactly what it is the Academy needs for support
and how AOG is meeting that need. Obviously, from my visit for my 15th
reunion, there is a lot that needs to be done at the Academy.
[092] I would not state fund raising support, esp support of the
Athletic Project nor would I state increasing AOG employees compensation/benefits
explicitly -- these are both sensitive issues with many graduates; and
I believe will reduce interest in and support for AOG.
[093] Find out what our MEMBERS want. For far too long, this Assn
has had little input from the grads. Now that the grads have a voice, listen.
First, focus on the grads, THEN on the institution.
[094] 1--Item 3 "continue to improve-----"I do not believe any communications
exists. it is all one way. AOG puts out in the Assembly but does not appear
to have a method of input from its members. I recommend an Ombudsman. 2--Item
5. Funding needs a complete overhaul. Far to involved with too many fund
raising schemes. See Gen Kutyna White Paper. 3--Item 6. I believe coordination
between those 3 is too tight and none exists between AOG and AOG membership.
[095] There used to be a small number of applicants that AOG sponsored
(scholorship) to go to college for a year to prove they could handle college
classes. These scholorships went to applicants that the admissions department
thought showed a strong desire to become Army Officers, but may not quite
meet the acedimic standards. I was one of 25 applicants in 1980 to be offered
a scholorship and I believe of the 25, 23 showed up the following year.
I believe most of us graduated and I for one am still on active duty. This
program enabled me and others to attend USMA where we would not have been
able to otherwise. I obviously would like to see this program continued
if it has been cancelled.
[096] ADD Develope and manage the utilization of the graduated body
in areas where their specific value can be effeciively focused to the benefit
of USMA
[097] Goal: Continue to develop "job network" for transitioning graduates
to the civilian workplace."
[098] When I think of AOG, I think it should be organized like a
corporate board with any USMA grad in a influential position being offered
a post. Not sure if this "old boy network" is still kicking. As far as
goals... 1. Rather superfluous 2. Goes without saying if deeds are present.
3. Is fine but the AMERICAN PUBLIC is the main focus here. I couldn't believe
how many people never heard of West Point when I went back to grad school
at Yale and went to get my first outside job. At first I thought it was
their ignorance but later this actually was quite embarrassing as it was
looked upon like a 2 yr tech school etc. 4. SHOULD BE ONE!!! 5. Fundraising
is fine. AOG should reap what it sows. 6. Implied mission 7. If it's required.
Not sure how it's organized. should be a high powered board with adequate
support staff. May be voluntary at first with stipends later. It should
be a board where grads would want to be a member to pursue their own companies
interest and look to pick up young grads who may have left the service.
This is not POACHING but taking care of our own. ****Insure West Point
is placed among the most competitve colleges again in magazines like Barron's
etc for admissions. I was really disappointed to see our name pulled away
from the Ivy's and stuck in a separate section in the back.
[099] Seek creative and active ways to maintain a Corps of Cadets
which reflects our Army's diversity
[100] We should mention exploiting new technologies to reach graduates
such as the internet and other venues.
[101] The management goals as stated are similar to those of a political
party. They appear to exist simply to preserve the AOG. They should be
changed to reflect the purpose of the AOG - improving USMA, not improving
the AOG.
[102] I am concerned that the Goal of finding support for the Army
Athletic Program will be limited to ODIA sports and will ignore the Club
sports, such as Rugby. I am also concerned that our 2002 Capital Campaign
will focus too much on building projects and not enough on cadet programs.
[103] Keep contact with active units & alumni in active units
[104] I really don't think 1st goal is that important. How do you
plan to measure it?
[105] Mentoring program for current cadets and graduates.
[106] See 15.
[107] A focus on networking - job placement
[108] Assist graduates in providing direct feedback to the USMA administration
to inprove the quality of graduates from the institution - words to that
effect
[109] Drop the emphasis on athletics and focus on academics and cadet
activities. AOG should not be sending athletes to prep schools or worrying
about sports programs in which USMA can't possibly compete (e.g. hockey,
basketball).
[110] The first listed goal, "1. Instill pride in the AOG membership."
is inappropriate and should be deleted.
[111] Develop a a bond between other Academies' AOGs for fostering
common interests and goals that are benificial to all academies.
[112] What is the Assistance package for graduates in the Army? What
is the Army Athletic Project? Does it include the club squad teams?
[113] 1. Have graduates more connected to WP. 2. More focus on the
large number of grads in the civilian sector. 3. More support of the local
societies. 4. Now that fund raising seems to be the number one job of the
Superintendent, provide a better explanation of where the money is going,
and why so many things did not seem to be done right the first time. It
is hard to give if the money is not being spent wisely.
[114] Goal 4 (assistance package for graduates in the Army) is narrow
and short sighted. Many graduates are no longer on active duty. I find
it difficult to feel proud of being a member of an organization such as
the AOG (Goal 1), or to trust such an organziation (Goal 2), when that
organization ignores me because of my status. My belief is linked to my
financial contribution to AOG -- none. I also believe that most AOG trustees,
in particular, have categorized all graduates into two groups: (i) those
grdaudates who serve 20 years or more and retire and (ii) the rest of the
graduates who serve less than 20 years on active duty. If the AOG insists
on being an organization only for those who *retire* from active duty (Association
of Graduates in the Army), I will continue my financial contribution at
its present level.
[115] My proposed mission statement would yield a completely different
set of goals. I would be glad to work with you if the nature and tone of
the mission statement were altered first.
[116] These are fine. Minor point though is that we probably have
some graduates in the AF and Navy and Marines.
[117] See #15 comments
[118] All of these goals focus on internal administration. There
does not seem to be one where the AOG is actually going to DO anything.
(Maybe the mission DOES need to be sharpened up).
[119] see previous comments, what will AOG do for ME? hate to be
so selfish, but it is a tough world out there.... and I have to spend my
time and money and energy on trying to improve my own life, before I can
have the luxury of assisting AOG individually and financially.
[120] Why is the AOG assistance package limited to graduates in the
Army? What about other services? Civilian life?
[121] Delete compensation package goal. It may be necessary but not
part of an organization's goals. AOG should provide service to graduates
not just communication. How will service be improved? Most goals are nebulous.
Should be objective and measureable.
[122]
[123] AOG is USMA's equivalent to Harvard's, Yale's, etc post graduation
networking associations. Their's work extremely well (and are very influential).
We would do well to emulate. As a minimum we should be emphasizing the
point of facilitating the maintenance of a post graduate community through
communication, networking, and communal activities (e.g., Beat Navy road
trips, etc)
[124] Do not understand #4
[125] Delete # 5 b, Army Athletic Project
[126] Procure addtional membership benifits such as discounts and
exclusive offers for AOG members Expand the networking opportunities for
AOG members Rally more active participation. ie have more events
[127] Suggestion to have the goals more measurable. Establish targets
so that the AOG can continuously improve. Goals without measurable targets
cannot easily be tracked toward attainment. For example: 1. Instill pride
in the AOG membership. Target: Attain a 5% increase in membership per annum.
2. Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the AOG membership
and the AOG management. Target: Develop a "top 3 problems" list and find
a solution within one year.
[128] Goal 4: Delete "in the Army"
[129] Better education program to those in Congress. WP should be
federally funded for ALL of its needs.
[130] I am not a member of AOG -- these goals mean nothing to me.
[131] Am somewhat ambivalent about your management goals. If these
are the ones you want, fine. However the first three are curious. #1 should
be a given. #2 implies that trust has not been there before. That might
be, but it's sad if it was ever the case and has to be so explicitly stated
as a goal. #3 speaks of improved communication to a wide variety of audiences
from the extended West Point community to the American public. I think
these might be too broad. What I found curious though was that commo with
USMA was third on the list. Whatever happened to a graduate association's
mission to support its alma mater? Can't we state that more explicitly
somewhere?
[132] Resolve the disconnect between the reorganization of the Regular
Army commission and the relationship between ROTC and USMA. As a graduate,
I bought into the concept of a small cadre from USMA with the bulk of the
Reserves from ROTC. With the reorganization, downsizing, etc., this no
longer sells well.
[133] Better PIO to support higher ethics and morals throughout the
Army Leadership and the cadet corps.
[134] AS above lets realize the statistics, over a third of us enter
civilial life by the end of the mandatory service period, about 10% are
left after 20 years, we desperately need to promote West Pointers for civilian
jobs, and very few individuals are doing that. As above the WPSNY for someone
in my age group is worthless, thank God I am in my own business, but don't
look for them for contacts. However some of my classmates were not so lucky,
and received the same zero level of assistance when they needed it most.
Did any of you AOG guys hear of downsizing???? Let me assure you its wasn't
a weeding out of the weak, it was an accounting exercise to minimize cost.
We have good people out there who could not look to their alma matter for
needed help.
[135] Delete those which are or appear to be dedicated to expanding
the role of and the compensation for the staff. i.e. #7, Improving the
benefit program of the staff, and #5 expanding the fund raising role, and
staffing of the AOG. #4 is fine. Should be doing more of this sort of thing.
# 1, 2, 3, and 6 are vague and do not lend themselves to measurement. In
other words, their achievement or non-achievement are nebulus as to be
of little value. They mean, to paraphrase from Alice in Wonderland, "precisely
what I think they mean, nothing more and nothing less". An exercise in
bureaucratic gobbly goop.
[136] change #4 to read: Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army and civil life
[137] Assist career service graduates transition to the civilan market
[138] 1. There should be some mention of support to the local WPPC.
[139] I am not familiar with the Army Athletic Project. The results
of the Navy game suggest a project is needed, but I doubt that fund raising
will be the solution.
[140] #5 is unacceptable. Period.
[141] The goal to develop a strong link between graduates and cadets
does not jump out at me. I don't view the cadets and "the Academy" as the
same thing. In 4 years when my Godson graduates, I want him and the academy
to have benefitted from the AOG efforts.
[142] I don't think the pay and compensation of AOG employees is
worthy of GOAL status.
[143] See item 15. The higher goals we all seek are not necessarily
served by strong central direction. Members provide their own direction
and interests. The AOG should enable us to excel in those varied interests
in cooperation with other members. Keep us aware of current Academy issues,
and let members contribute optional solutions.
[144] Add: Help USMA instill in cadets a motivation to serve a full
career in the active Army. Motivate younger graduates to become active
in local societies.
[145] There is too much emphasis on the AAA and on the AOG per se--and
I go to at least two games a year and have respect for the emplyees of
the AOG- butI would like the emphasis to be on cadets and cadet recruiting--I
don't need AOG to "instill pride" in me.
[146] Eliminate goals 1 and 2. I don't think they are a problem.
If the AOG has a problem with pride in its membership, then there are bigger
issues to deal with. And if there is mistrust, we probably need to reengineer
the entire organization.
[147] Some of the goals, including the first two do not seem consistent
with the Purpose Statement. The AOG should not place its needs before the
needs of the Academy... 1. Trust in AOG management should not be in this
list. Is there a trust issue in this organization? Arent't USMA graduates
involved in this organization? 2. Pride in AOG? Pride in the Academy ought
to be enough. 3. Of course AOG employees should have excellent compensation
and benefits... but these administrative objectives should not be on the
operational goals list. *As for goals to recommend to the AOG... I suggest
that any goal must flow from the excellent Purpose Statement.
[148] Undecided
[149] Enhance the networking capability expand goal # 5 to include
civilian duffs too whats with this comp.comp/bennie package? Is mgmt goal
#6 an indication of disfunctionality? Mgmt Goal #2 overlaps #6 or vice
versa. eliminate overlap
[150] delete 1 and 2. If anything, they are outcomes of goal 3.
[151] there is entirely too much emphasis on athletics
[152] #7 is an internal management goal and should not occupy the
overall membership's time. Delete. #5 - Explain the capital campaign and
Army Athletic Project
[153] Needs more analysis! Compared to other alumni associations
in SC the USMA's assoc is inactive. I suspect we have well over 800 members
and growing! Why cannot we have a more visible impact on and in the community?
[154] Yes, in general, but I don't think the AOG should be in the
coordination game between AAA and USMA; that's a USMA function. It should
not be involved with fund raising; that's a WPF mission. The AOG is for
graduates and for helping WP.
[155] The AOG should actively help career movements outside of the
active duty part of one's career.
[156] only 5 and 7 apear meaningful. 7 appears selfserving.
[157] Delete all except 4 & 5. The others sound like bureaucrat-speak.
7 is exceptionally out of touch with the rest of the world; only a decaying
few industries/companies have a defined benefit plan. I would strongly
suggest a defined contribution plan; otherwise any remaining support for
maintaining the current system will vanish.
[158] The goal to improve the benefits package for AOG employees
seems self-serving. There should be a reasonable program compared to the
average in industry.
[159] Delete: 4, 5 and 7
[160] These may be the goals, but in real life, they have not been
actively followed
[161] I am somewhat lukewarm on the goals, but I have no great ideas
at the present time.
[162] 5b. Disagree with the money grubbing implications of this goal.
[163] I believe that the current AOG management is focusing far too
much attention on Army athletics -- specifically football. The belief is
that if our athletic facilities are not competitive with (e.g.) University
of Texas, Notre Dame, UNC, etc. then we will not be able to recruit the
cream of the crop. I disagree. We need to be recruiting great Americans
who are smart, fit, and willing to commit 20 years of their lives to serving
their countryas officers in the Army. A $24 million football annex isn't
taking many steps in that direction. AOG is a partner in this vector, and
I fundamentally disagree with it.
[164] Need long discussion and analysis before responding to the
listed goals.
[165] Don't quite understand "pride in AOG membership". Is this different
and distinct from "graduate' ?
[166] Admissions work, especially minority.
[167] Why an AOG assistance package just for those still in the Army?
The bulk of my class is no longer on active duty -- why should the majority
be cut out? I say all this, of course, not knowing what such a package
will be.
[168] Delete emphasis on fund raising. Make the West Point Fund more
of a separate operation and get toe emphasis of the AOG out of fund raising.
The current overemphasis on fund raising is unpopular with many graduates.
[169] More emphasis should be placed on educating the public as to
the mission of the USMA.
[170] Goal #1 is superfluous. Graduates are proud of being graduates.
Goals 2,3,6 and 7 relate to improving AOG staff performance of routine
adminstrative and communications matters, and comprise internal administrative
affairs to be addressed by the AOG staff. They are not suitable "goals"
to be pursued by the membership at large, nor are the stuff of a public
statement of goals for the membership. They are administrivia. Goal 5 is
the only goal likely to be visible to most members, and it manifests itself
as incessant pleas for funds, caused by lack of federal funding. Goal 4
is unexplained. See below for suggestions.
[171] 1. I hope members of the LGL already have pride 2. #3 and #6
appear the same 3. #7 may be a goal of employees but it is not one of mine
[172] All of the goals deal with $$, what goals are there to "furthering
the ideals" and traditions?
[173] seperate AOG and WPF completely
[174] Improve minority participation through community colleges in
the face of declining committment to affirmative action programs by developing
a targeted sponsorship program.
[175] there should be something included about assisting potential
cadets/applicants...the best way to promote an institution is to help maintain
the standards of its members
[176] These goals seem OK but, they do not seem to fall under the
stated purpose, as stated above, they do have an orrientation on graduates.
[177] Extend the career/transitory/advisory services for graduates.
USMA has no "career services" like most other universities. However, there
is definitely a need for such an office for graduates because every one
of them will change employment at least once during their working life.
Our need for employment assistance is not immediate, as is the case for
other universities, but years after graduation. We are weak in that area;
AOG has begun to fill the gap, but more needs to be done. I'm not recommending
that AOG do this task, but AOG should be leading the charge to get a system
set up to do it.
[178] See my response to #15. Some of the current goals are in this
direction, for which I compliment you.
[179] To reduce fund raising costs from X to Y. Ultimately, the fund
raising costs should go to zero in 2010, or some year. AOG should report
the progress in reducing fund raising each year. As the AOG endowment grows,
then fund raising should drop. My classmates and I are watching for progress
in this and AOG must report this to the graduate body. For example: Cost
on the dollar for fund raising: CY 96 17.4 cents; CY 97 16.9 cents; CY
98 16.2 cents, etc. If the AOG does not do this, then your long term fund
raising will be in jeporday with grads and other friends of USMA.
[180] They are too bureaucratic. Need some goals with some iron and
fire in them. How about starting with: 1. Take aggressive, public and private
action to ensure that West Point is perceived to be the finest Military
Academy in the World! Lobby and do the things that the active duty people
cannot do. 2. Aggressively counsel the Superintendent and the Administration
to accomplish #1 by being the voice of the graduates not just the voice
of the generals, the rich, and the famous.
[181] make plebe year hard again.
[182] There should be one overarching goal. I suggest #6 - or a modification
thereof. E.g. Support links between the members of the AOG, West Point,
...
[183] Delete #7 Good luck on #2
[184] Focus on returning the military to the Corps of Cadets.
[185] I am pleased to see the assocation's pledge towards army athletics.
[186] Again, more effort to include former cadets in Academy affairs.
After all, Cow summer washouts like me went through the toughest two years
of the program just like the rest of you, and it changed our lives forever
-- for better or for worse -- just as much as it changed yours. In a way,
we are almost "half-graduates." The least you could do is show a little
respect for us and our opinions, instead of treating us as non-existent
pariahs, which seems to have been the AOG policy so far. Sorry to give
it so hard and straight, but that's the way I've felt all these years.
[187] #4 is absolutely KEY! And, it must tell us what we can do beyond
contributing money.
[188] Number 4 is key. I would incorporate some kind of emphasis
on how the AOG may help transition to the civilian world after the Army.
[189] Review and recommend actions to maintain the traditions of
West Point
[190]
[191] assist graduates in finding positions in the corporate sector
[192] #5 should have more categories in the Army in government service
and in other areas
[193] One goal says "in the Army." As this questionnaire does not
address status of grads serving proudly in the Army Reserve or Guard, AOG
appears to be, like AUSA, focused totally on the active component in it's
thinking. I had no opportunity in question 5 military/civilian status to
indicate that I am an active civilian AND an active Reservist. Short sighted
of the AOG to neglect the Army Reserve and Guard as having any status at
all in your survey.
[194] Expand the support for the graduate portion.
[195] I need clarification of #4 "Develop an AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army." Why just the Army? What type of assistance?
Would this exclude civilian graduates?
[196] These are excellent goals for the management team but many
are not appropriate goals for the organiztion. I would like to know what
the organization plans to do in areas such as supporting the community
and our international graduates
[197] None of the goals speaks to the relationship between graduates
and current cadets. I think the goals should reflect establishing some
connection beneficial to the Corps of Cadets as they prepare for their
careers.
[198] Goal #: 1. What does this mean? - pride in USMA? - pride in
AOG? - AOG staff pride in AOG members? - I suggest that AOG is a means
to further the other goals, and not an end in itself. 3. Why coordination
with the American public? Doesn't seem to fit. This is a goal for public
institutions, not for the AOG unless it is seen as a problem somewhere.
4. What is an AOG "assistance package", and why is it only for USMA graduates
in the Army? Perhaps this is a project, not a "goal". 5. What is WPF? (OK,
answered in #18)What exactly is the AOG role in assisting other USMA activities?
Are these contradictory to the AOG missions?
[199] The AOG needs to recognize that many of its members were not
career military, but entered civilian life early in there career. Too often
we feel excluded and/or treated as second class citizens.
[200] I have a personal project which I'm pursuing through class
e-mail comm. I'm not yet ready to conclude how AOG should contribute to
the cause I have in mind. I'm not trying to be sinister ,; I just need
a little more time to reach my own conclusions. This project has to do
with what I believe to be real problems in all armed forces relating to
perceptions of women in combat. I'll have some more definitive ideas in
a month or so.
[201] You should also add Developing an AOG assistance package for
graduates that are now in the civilian sector.
[202] financial goals?
[203] I don't feel qualified to modify goals made by people much
more knowledgable and active in the AOG than me. However, you might consider:
o you can't measure No.s 1 and 2, something USMA taught us to avoid when
setting goals. :-) o I don't know what you mean in 4 by an "assistance
package." Since I personnally have never taken advantage of things like
AOG job placements help, etc., I would question this goal unless, historically,
you have found a sufficiently high number of people use it and therefore
the benefits justify the costs.
[204] Like most of it but question the business of providing a "package"
for active duty personnel. What does this mean? Could be taken the wrong
way by those who are not graduates. Not sure that the statements concerning
the WPF are strong enough. Seems to me that the AOG should be responsible
for the WPF. Do not believe the statements as such underscore this responsiblity.
[205] Delete # 7
[206] It's not clear what is meant in goal 4. by "an AOG assistance
package for graduates in the Army".
[207] Pretty well stated, but add a goal "to separate the AOG from
the West Point Fund." Add another: "To work actively with maximum effort
to restore RA commissions to graduates at graduation."
[208] Contribute to the formulation of the future purpose and character
of the Academy.
[209] I'm not sure I understand the purpose of #6 in light of the
presence of #3.
[210] I am glad you are starting to focus on people
[211] Delete Goal 5 in its entirety. Substitute the goal of assaulting
Congress, the Executive Branch and all the Media to gain public support
for the Service Academies.
[212] "Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the
AOG membership and the AOG management." I was not aware that there is a
problem with trust. If there isn't, you might want to change "Develop"
to "Maintain." "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in the
Army." Please define what you mean by "assistance package."
[213] The goals are fine, however, if they are listed in order of
importance, I think they are out of order. To me, numbers 3 and 6 should
be 1 and 2, as I think they are primary in achieving the mission stated
in survey question #15, above.
[214] I don't like the first goal. Recommend rewording it to something
like "Instill a strong sense of identity with the AOG in members and graduates".
[215] Delete 7 Combine 1,2 & 3
[216] same goals, just change the priorities
[217] You mentioned assistance to graduates in the Army. What about
graduates not in the military?
[218] Why limit assistance to graduates in the Army? How about graduates
in other services?
[219] Do noit become a rubber stamp for the USMA administration as
it seems to have become in the past few months.
[220] 1. Support core education and and military training programs
at USMA everything else is superfilous.
[221] Again, I'm insufficiently familiar with AOG and its efforts,
so, faithfully, have clicked on "Yes" in the absence of any productive
suggestions/additions.
[222] Expand the goal relating to providing assistance to "...Graduates
in the Army..." to include drilling and IRR Resrvists, National Guardsmen/women,
members of other branches of the military, active and reserve, and those
pursuing cvilian careers. (It seems like the only "assistance" offered
is for retirees of significant rank [i.e., LTC and higher] once an individual
leaves military service. You can bet Cornell and Stanford offer "assistance"
to graduates making career/life changes.)
[223] I don't understand some of the goals and some are internally
focused. There is some talk of the customer, but not much. What does goal
#1 and #2 mean? Goal #7 is internal. #3, #4 and #6 are good goals.
[224] Active network/assitance for graduates in civilian life as
well as assistance to those in the Army. Job hotline, access to information
or thoughts on topics, community support, charitable goals other than USMA,
etc.
[225] In looking at the range of services offered by the AOG, I cannot
identify many to the goals; e.g., the travel packages, credit cards. I
think it is legitimate for the AOG to offer these services, but they should
support some goal. Something like the following: offering high quality
services of interest to graduates which represent good values achievable
through the buying power of the AOG. Or: Supplement funding of AOG operations
through sponsorship of services... .
[226] Could not view goals document
[227] Goals are soley management goals; OK for the AOG leadership,
but not OK for the organization as a whole which should focus on assisting
the individual cadet, potential cadet, and graduates. Only goal 4 addresses
this.
[228] They don't say anything.
[229] Develop an organization for graduates to help each other in
the business world
[230] Goals 5 and 6 are the most important and are inter related.
Helping graduates is a worthy goal. Goal 7 should be deleted and not related
to helping USMA. The other goals are eye-wash.
[231] I think they are fine, except I think Number 2 should be a
given, not a goal.
[232] Should add cooperation with West-Point.ORG to the cooperation
goal. Goals are mostly USMA centric rather than grad centric. Gets back
to the purpose above.
[233] 1. Develop AOG network into a more active and vocal arm in
shaping USMA future
[234] Why the primacy of athletics?
[235] The goals sound like they're purpose is to improve AOG's image,
vice doing something of substance.
[236] I think the WPF should also help clubs and academics, instead
of just focusing on athletic support
[237] You need to keep pressure down on 5a and b.
[238] Something about assistance to the Cadet recruiting process.
[239] increase the efforts to promote the academy via public relations
efforts--the media needs to be courted and more efforts to publicize the
usma successes in addition to sports--
[240] More focus should be made on the AOG memebership, and cultivating
a sense of belonging for everyone, not just bif donors. This will greatly
enhanced the support members give to USMA. The members and cadets are what's
important.
[241] Number 5. I don't think a goal of the AOG should be arranging
gifts. That is a class repsonsibility.
[242] MORE EFFORT WITH DA FOR WEST POINT SUPPORT
[243] -Improve the support provided for scheduling reunions. -Improve
and expand the mass communications media -Encourage and support exchange
of ideas between graduates by establishing a chat room and scheduled electronic
meetings with coaches, and the USMA chain of command. -Support resistance
to liberalizing the USMA curriculum keeping focus on Military Art and Science.
[244] Add: "Facilitate means of interaction between professionally
employed graduates in order create an effective business network of West
Point graduates." Note: this network could incude graduates of oursister
academies
[245] You need another option:"I don't know". (And that's true for
many of the questions in the survey: Have you stopped beating your wife?
Answer yes or no. What's an assistance package? And do we make too big
a deal of the AAA support. (I was not a varsity athlete and I think there's
a lot more to USMA than the AAA.) And what's the Athletic Stadium project?
Same as Shea Field?
[246] suggest change "US Army Suggest change "US Army" and "Army"
to "US Armed Forces".
[247] Delete 4 - purpose is not clear Delete 5 - separate from AOG
activities Delete 7 - make an in-house AOG management function Add a goal
to make better known the purpose of AOG
[248] It would help to be more specific with goal #3. How do you
intend to improve the communication process, and what steps have you taken
so far to do this?
[249] Give graduates regular commissions in Army. Work toward eventual
elimination of female cadets. Work toward reducing curriculum to the subjects
that are only essential to being an Army leader.
[250] Exert influence to stop the liberalization of the USMA education
program and return to the prime mission of producing military combat leaders.
[251] I'd recommend the goals be defined more precisely and accompanied
by concrete numbers so performance can be objectively measured.
[252] The AOG should be concerned with the perpetuation of the academy
and not just be a rubber stamp for the Supe.
[253] 1. delete. If we don't have pride..... 2. delete. If grads
can't trust the AOG..... 4. question/ delete. I need more info. 7.delete.
If this is needed, just do it! Rule #1 is get the mission done. Rule #2
is take care of the troops. Mission first, Troops always. The "key" objectives
should be #3,5 and 6. Help Support the Academy
[254] Have not spent time thinking about it, but the goals on the
goals page for 97-99 are not very impressive. I cannot see that the aog
has set its sights on anything of much importance to the futur e of WP
and its role in the nation.
[255] Clicking on "Goals" didn't work.
[256] WHAT IS #4 SUPPOSE TO DO? WHAT IS THE AOG ROLE IN SUPPORTING
GRADS LEAVING THE SERVICE? AOG COMPENSATION IS AN INTERNAL GOAL AND SHOULD
NOT BE PART OF AN EXTERNALLY ESPOUSED GOAL.
[257] I like all or most; only caution is not to focus too heavily
on the AAA thing; we are much more than athletics or a winning football
team.
[258] Please include DCA (Directorate of Cadet Activities) to line
6. Many of the cadets participate in sports and other activities not sponsored
by AAA! This is probably MORE important than the AAA sponsored stuff as
it does not get the some attention. Thanks.
[259] career counseling for active duty officers
[260] Too much emphasis on Army Athletics. Should be more emphasis
on academic excellence.
[261] AOG should encourage USMA to tear down the Thayer Hotel and
build in its place an expanded, more modern 4 star hotel, of the quality
of a Hyatt or Westin. We all love the Thayer, but it lacks the capacity
to satsify the needs of visitors to USMA; especially returning graduates.
Try getting a room on a football weekend even one year in advance. It can't
be done. My guess is that a Hyatt, Marriot, or Westin would be willing
to build and run at their expense a hotel to meet our needs.
[262] Plan and sponsor travel and entertainment activities for graduates
and families
[263] 1. Don't quite understand item 4 and its intent. 2. There is
no statement about promoting USMA to eligible young people. This is our
future strength especially as the pool of college entrants shrinks and
copetition from civil institutions increases
[264] Believe that AOG must expand and become a broader front for
the benefit of all service academies. The time is right now, for the service
academies are still admired. A unified coalition of service academies and
private military-friendly organizations is needed.
[265] Are they in order of importance? How bad is the current pride
in AOG? Is AOG pride measured by subscriptions and contributions?
[266] In the communications paragraph, modify to stress 'with the
most modern technological means'
[267] Why is #4 "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army" only related to those still in the Army?
[268] These goals are entirely too general and meaningless for the
average graduate whose greatest interest is in training leaders for the
U.S. Army and DOD. Typically of USMA, these listed goals are so broad and
encompassing as to render them insignificant. Need to prioritize, and in
this graduate's opinion, need to focus on the U.S. Army's needs, not the
AOG's needs.
[269] Reduce expense ratio. Disclose better break down of specific
costs to raise money
[270] I don't know if it is covered under any of the goals listed,
but the Academy, and the military in general, is constantly under "attack"
by segments of the political machine in Washington. We should endeavor
to be more of an active lobbying presence, to insure the welfare and continuity
of the Academy.
[271] Work to restore Regular Army commission for graduating cadets
[272] While comprehensive benefits/compensation IS important, my
feeling is that it does not necessarily have to be one of the goals of
the overall AOG. The focus is narrow -- benefitting only those who work
there. The argument that benefitting them benefits all rings hollow to
me. Do it -- just don't make it one of the cornerstone goals of the entire
Assn.
[273] The goal that states to assist graduates in the Army should
read "in the Armed Forces"??
[274] Minor comments: Instill pride, develop a bond among AOG members
and the Assoc's management indicates there's a problem. A goal should be
to foster relationships among association members.
[275] Raising funds without explaining the focus of where the $$
will be spent is hard to totally agree upon. -- Also seems to be a lot
of fuss about reuniting the North and South lately. Seems a dead issue
to me. Civil War is over 132 years. If we need a statue of RE Lee lets
put it up and stop fussing over a non-issue.
[276]
[277] I think an AOG onbjective should focus on AOG member's contribution
to the Public sector. I don't think an AOG assistance package is needed
for Active Army AOG members, unless we are describing support of job placement
in transition to the private sector.
[278] Delete #1, 2, 3.
[279] See response to 15 above.
[280] See above comments.
[281] While compensation for employees is important, not sure it
should be an over all goal. It seems petty compared to others. Similarly
those of us in the service require compnesation, yet it is not one of our
stated goals.
[282] Change #4 to read: Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates.
[283] Add: 1. Reevaluate and redefine the focus of the AOG's activities
to better support the needs of the Graduate Body. 2. Promote better relationships
with the Graduate Body through better and more responsive communication.
3.Communicate to the Graduate Body how the AOG benefits each and every
Graduate, and how the AOG works in "harmony" with the other associations(WP
and AAA) to the betterment of the Graduate Body and the Corps of Cadets.
[284] Less emphasis on "construction." I work for Penn State University
and WP has facilities that most other colleges/universities could only
dream of.
[285] Promote worldwide recognition of the ideals of West Point and
dedicate ourselves to a universal cause such as removing land mines.
[286] The compensation plan should be adequate and reasonable, but
not extravagant. I would anticipate that to be the case, but there is need
for contiued alertness to control administrative expenses in non-profit
organaizations -- to ensure maximum dedication of resources directly to
the target program.
[287] Support for non-atheletic cadet clubs and activities (SCUSA,
International Affairs Forum, Chess Club, etc.).
[288] The goals should be specific. I assume they last for so long
because they are rather ambiguous.
[289] -do not think AOG should be in the job placement business.
-think the compensation must equal the quality of the employees. If significantly
increasing the compensation package, then use the opportunity to attract
a higher quality of employee (ie, bring the quality to West Point, not
just retain retirees available in the area). -segregate all fund raising
operations into WPF and put a firewall between other agencies, except for
info flow within AOG/WPF. Coordinate all fund raising with class fund raising
so classes are not given a double wammy in the same week or month.
[290] Perhaps more career transition assistance
[291] 1. Assist in providing opportunities for alumni to support
the USMA as they are able, e.g. through recruiting, admissions, public
affairs, fundraising. 2. Work to increase areas of cooperation between
alumni organizations of the service academies.
[292] Compensation packages for employees? Is everyone a volunteer
at this time?
[293] Forget this broad cliche usage; what are you going to do that
is measurable? Only number 7. is a real goal.
[294] What does 'Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army' exactly mean??? You should include an improved 'jobs file',
and/or improved dissemination of networking opportunities (especially beyond
JMO)
[295] Goals as listed are OK. I suggest including a goal along the
lines of seeking ways to help the AOG be more in a service/servant role
to the local organizations. It has been a number of years since I've been
the president of a local society. AOG support has come a long way since
then. It is always useful to ask this question, however: "Are the AOG programs
in place there primarily to provide means for local societies to serve
the needs of the AOG, or do the AOG programs and practices support the
needs of the local societies?"
[296] No opinion.
[297] It doesn't seem that the goals relate to the mission statement
especially the AOG employees compesation/benifit package.
[298] However, if these goals are in any order, I don't think instilling
pride is number one. These goals should be reordered.
[299] I would propose that the AOG develop an interface with the
legislature, similar to the AUSA and other lobby groups. The purpose would
be to make the voice of the academy heard in the Congress. With fewer and
fewer veterans serving in our government it is imperative that we be heard
in government.
[300] Should delete numbers 1 & 2 as they aren't objectively
measurable. There is no way to quantify success or failure.
[301] Order should be more like 3, 2, 1. And if there is a problem
with the communications with USMA, then that should be the first priority.
How many AOG employees are there? And what do they do?
[302] The goals are fine, but how do you define success in each area?
[303] Promote West Point to the American public (the target audience
is the American Taxpayer/voter) Focus fund raising marketing schemes on
the graduates who make real money (non-active duty)
[304] Perhaps you could amplify goal number 3 with a comment about
promoting the value of military service to the country.
[305] I question items (4 & 7), am opposed to items (5 &
6). I think the lines of demarcation among AOG, USMA, and AAA should be
sharply defined. From all I've seen recently these lines have been totally
blurred if not eliminated.
[306] I question the support to AAA, and specifically the "Army Athletic
Project." Also, I question what compensation and benefits are currently
provided to AOG employees. As a manager in a corporate environment, I look
at the front of assembly and see 'overhead' with the large number of 'Gift
Officers.' My reasons for supporting the Association are for the Academy,
not to take care of the AOG staff. I agree with the mission to 'promote
the welfare of the Academy'. I disagree with promoting the welfare of the
"AOG Staff."
[307] The goals are pretty obscure (other than the last one which
I don't believe should be listed as an explicit AOG goal [i.e., the comp
package should be handled as an action, not a organizational goal]). How
about some REAL goals? What about improving communication with graduates
including establishing formal Internet/e-mail contact with as many grads
as possible? What specific improved support will be provided to graduates
as a goal this year?
[308] Change #4 to be more inclusive by deleting "in the Army".
[309] Delete emphasis on Army athletics facilities
[310] But, I don't understand why there has to be a goal of trusting
the AOG staff. Why wouldn't we?
[311] Can not view Goals
[312] I am not entirely happy with the expansion of the WPF.
[313] See below
[314] Suggest opening membership to AOG to all former cadets who
were honorably discharged but did not complete a full semester. This would
add to membership rolls and help former cadets in their trying to maintain
the strong affection for the Academy.
[315] I don't understand what you mean by an "AOG assistance package"
for graduates in the Army. Could you please clarify? Also, 5(b) is directed
at soliciting gifts particularly for the Army Athletic Project. Although
I fully support that goal, what are the non-athletic projects that are
being supported by the AOG? Specifically, does the AOG raise money to endow
chairs now that there are civilian professors (like Mike Bowers is trying
to do), or does the AOG raise money for Academic Enrichment Projects with
the various departments? Finally, with regard to Goal 3, I think the AOG
should also improve communications between USMA/AOG/Congressional staff
on behalf of the admissions process. I am sure that this is already being
done, but I think that the AOG should take an active role and have as a
stated goal the advancement of USMA through ensuring that qualified candidates
apply and attend the Academy.
[316] The AOG should provide services to those who are not active
or retirees. Job hunting and networking are serious issues for younger,
non-active duty graduates, as well as for recent retirees.
[317] I disagree with the emphasis in goal 5b on athletics and disagree
with goal 7 in its entirety. Goal 7 is a management function and should
not be a goal of the AOG which includes all members. The intent of goal
4 is not clear. What is the purpose of the assistance package? Why is it
only for "graduates in the Army"? What about graduates who have left the
Army or who have retired? What about graduates who went to other services?
[318] Ther first three are very "touchy-feely" but don't have any
meaning to me. Numbers 4, and 6 sound good, but what are you really talking
about? What is it's impact? Number 7? Please. How is a package for AOG
employees a matter for the consideration of the entire orgainization. The
directors should take care of their employees. Period. Do not try and pass
that off as an official goal.
[319] Make AOG a relevant organization to newer graduates.
[320] Unable to open window showing those goals. However, I was able
to print a hard copy. I would ask how these goals relate to Chairman's
current exercise to obtain recommended objectives for 1998 from Classes?
Can I relate my response to his request for objectives to these goals?
Goal number 7 assumes that the current staff is appropriate for the mission.
Another goal should be an unbiased assessment of the size, make-up and,
compensation structure. Add a goal for improvement of financial reporting
(see 17 below).
[321] Your first goal should be to provide support to USMA.
[322] OK, but see 15 above
[323] I am opposed to fund raising by and for the Academy. I am opposed
to any further expansion of facilities. I believe that West Point should
"lay low" and concentrate on producing leaders and quit trying to keep
up with the Jones and quit being all things to all people. Characater is
what West Point is all about and it doesn't need underground tunnels to
pistol ranges to develop character. The place is too big and is an inviting
target to those who would do away with it.
[324] More communication between Grads. We need to build a stronger
grad network.
[325] 1) Serve as a link between graduates (sort of like a Harvard
Club)
[326] The Goals are a bit ingrown. There might be something about
support for the U.S. Army, the U.S. Military or perhaps the United States
of America.
[327] Please expand on #4,5,7. 4- What is the intent of the AOG assistance
packet? 5- Let AAA push the athletic side; there are plenty of capital
improvements that need to be made in areeas affecting the mental and daily
quality of life side of USMA. 6- What is the current package? Why is it
in need of development (because no package exists?)?
[328] I believe that they are acceptable, but would ask that AOG
consider the following: - AOG should exist for the reasons listed above,
but AOG should also exist as a resource for Graduates. Few of us can make
a lifelong career of the Army. We retire after we have done our duty fully,
but that is not always after the 40 or 30 or 20 years we may wish to serve.
There is recent trend to remove graduates from the Army by to early outs,
early retirements, etc. This is leaving a large number of graduates who,
having done their duty fully, are not allowed to continue to serve. This
is an unfortunate consequence of the reduced budgets of recent years. I
have had to make the transition from Army Officer to Civilian Professional
and found that the prevailing arrogant attitude of serving officers (many
of them grads) towards that transition was an unfortunate leadership flaw.
We may support our school, but we fail at supporting our own when they
perform that forward passage of lines into civilian life. We, the graduates
of USMA, hold the key to making the transition easier through simple networking.
That in turn will make USMA stronger by showing our graduates as a success
story in and out of uniform. Service to the nation does not end when the
uniform is taken off. I realize that the Corps' mission can not (and should
not) pander to the civilian sector. I also realize that we all must leave
the service sooner or later.
[329] I cannot answer this question since I am not using a computer
with browser software and become disconnected from the entire survey if
I click the "Goals" cue, which I did the first time I went through the
questions using my WebTV.
[330] Quit dunning me for $$$
[331] Assist USMA in restoring the regular commission wherever possible.
[332] But need to add something about AOG management serving the
AOG membership so that they as a body can fulfill the purpose of the Association.
[333] The goals seem alright, but are fuzzy as to how we'll know
when they're achieved. While I occasionally contribute, I'm also involved
in a number of other things that also also ask for contributions but are
more precise as to what will be achieved through the contributions. I think
we have a proclivity to set goals that are too broad and expensive (1966
was trying to endow an academic chair while many of us were still paying
mortgages and sustaining children in school). Also, I tend to question
the emphasis on AAA - I'd be interested in supporting (in a modest way
compared to others) something that emphasized West Point's history, or
contributions to the Nation. As I write this, some ideas start to form
about West Point on-line (using the impressive Web capabilities you've
developed) for the general public - particulary high-schoolers who are
in the process of making career decisions. Please understand that I'm not
complaining - you're doing a great job! I think there may be other things
to do.
[334] They do not appear to relate to me. They do appear to relate
to fund raising.
[335] I believe Academy graduates have God-given abilities and training
which our country desperately needs if we as a nation are to come out of
our downward spiral. The AOG needs a goal to promote graduates' volunteering
in organizations which promote and carry out the values and ideals which
made our country grea. It's a terrible waste of talent for us to retire
to the golf course when our country needs us so desperately.
[336] It is intresting to me to see a set of goals that focus on
building confidence between the Board and its constituants!! One would
think this is a given after so many years in existence.
[337] Physical Plant Public Relations
[338] Add goal reflected AOG assistance to USMA in academic areas
as well as athletics.
[339] Goals 1 and 2 improperly put a priority on the AOG, not on
USMA or USMA graduates. Goal 7 is self-serving. Goal 4 is ambiguous. Goals
3 & 6 are either redundant or overlapping. In short, if these are the
goals of AOG, it doesn't serve me.
[340] Delete goals mentioning the AAA in particular. What is the
assistance package?
[341] Develop stronger ties with graduates who are no longer on active
duty.
[342] * Develop a consensus among AOG members about what projects
or areas we should focus on for gift-giving, given the goals of the AOG
and its membership. * Develop a better flow of information about transitioning
to civil life (like it or not, a lot of USMA grads are leaving the service.
To maximize the potential they have as individuals and a future donors
to USMA, we should have available the information necessary for them to
find the best employment possible. ( As an MBA student, I DO NOT think
that going to a JMO placement service is a very good option! But when I
got out, that was the only option anyone seemed to want to talk about...)
[343] -instill pride? If they don't have it, the AOG isn't going
to give it to them.
[344] Goals associated with improving graaduates participation in
fund raisers
[345] ADD; Commission cadet graduates as Lts, Regular Army.
[346] Change Goal #7: Develop a competitive compensation package.(comprehensive
implies costly) Also Goal #4 requires more explanation.
[347] #2 is a worthy goal as it does not exist #3 is what you should
already be expert at; #4 is a great expander -- actually the only point
that matters to me #5 is what you do way too much inclusive the AAA part
of #6 #1is irrelevant; pride should be associated w/ the institution and
its cadets not AOG #6,7 have no value
[348] First goal should be to represent the alumni and not the supe
and the administration when differences arise, e.g. RA commissioning policy
and law
[349] 5. b) I don't like the focus of soliciting gifts "particularly
those dedicated to the Army Athletic Program." I think that the varsity
Athletic Program recieves undo attention at the expense of other activities.
[350] 2.TRUST should be an attribute/value we currently share 4.
should not be limited, but should be for all graduates 5.a) should be "Support"
instead of "Monitor" b) reference to Army Athletic Project should not be
specified here
[351] no time to check another site, plus complete this survey
[352] These goals relate to the AOG. I am not really as much interested
in the AOG as I am in USMA. Some of the goals of AOG should relate to USMA.
One goal could be: Refute and rebut inaccurate statements about USMA in
the media and in academic circles. Another could be: Build a larger constituency
in the Army for USMA. A third could be to lobby (sic!) for more funds for
USMA...if the AOG is allowed to do that. There is no reason to have an
AOG except to help USMA survive and prosper.
[353] Post service employment search support for officers who are
retiring , or who wish to change employment.
[354] Address the support of graduates who are no longer in the Army.
[355] I am very much turned off by virtually all of the stated goals.
The primary goal of the AOG staff should be to improve and extend the VALUE
of AOG membership to the graduate. You've forgotten why you're there.
[356] Delete #4. We got what we need at the Academy.
[357] For 1997 to 1999, the goals, as listed, are just fine.
[358] Fund raising. Career services for those leaving military need
major development.
[359] Add - To work closer with local societies to assist in obtaining
the goals of ACOG
[360] gain - a little heavy for an E-mail response. I think the goals
should be those that: 1. Promote applications for enrollment 2. Help graduates.
3. Improve school facilities - (when the govt does not or cannot. 4. Improve
the AOG organization through upgrading compensation, training, recruitment
of skilled people, etc. These may look a lot like your stuff.
[361] Add somewhere: Conduct a professional market research project
to determine the needs of the AOG target market. Also get professional
help on how to better market current services.
[362] specific methods to increase communication with AOG members
[363] Add to line 4: ... for graduates in the Army and in civilian
life.
[364] Goals 1,2,3,6,7 are very broad for a mature organization and
already shoud have been achieved in broad form. Need to develop more specific
goals that can create necessary incremental improvements
[365] I would eliminate "particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project" in 5b. The AOG is often thought of as a booster club
for jocks. The focus should be much wider.
[366] More benefits/services for all grads (regardless of service
) for civ employment
[367] We have a new Chairman...these are his stated goals. I would
hope that it would include fostering closer working relationships with
the so-called Military Alliance,,,TROA, AUSA, etc. In addition, we must
find ways to get more grads to subsribe to the Assembly, get on E-Mail,
join and participate with their WPS & Class organizations!!!
[368] #4. Delete the phrase "...in the Army." #6. I have no basis
for an opinion on this one. #7. This appears to be too self-serving, and
should be deleted.
[369] I think AOG should focus on two things 1. providing a information
to the alumni on how the corp of cadets (not the Sup and AOG) can best
be served by graduates and then providing a conduit for those funds/assistance
(have we ever asked the cadets what assistance they would like from alumn?)
2. Provide a source of alumni support and assistance. Having been involed
in classgiving for 4 years, and listening to my classmates, I believe that
AOG comes across as self-serving. Building Herbert hall for themselves
and not the Alumn and at the expense of supporting the corp-of-cadets.
[370] It is important that the AOG be a mutually supportive organization
of Graduates, throughout all walks of life. (Most of us are no longer Active
Duty, Retired, Reserve, etc.) Single-minded focus on obtaining money from
grad's to support the academy alienates many. It is certainly primary,
but we are an "Association of Graduates" as well as a USMA Support resource.
[371] The goals are good "management goals," but they don't address
the issues that the Academy is facing within American society. We cannot
assume that the Academy will be around forever just because it has been
for nearly 200 years. We must continue to actively support it, particularly
with Congress and the nation that elects Congress.
[372] I thik that the AOG should be involved in someway doing some
P.R. for the military academy. With fewer and fewer people serving on active
duty, somebody out there needs to be keeping the public informed about
the contributions of USMA graduates, particulalry if USMA's mission is
to provide leaders of character who serve the nation.
[373] Goals should be added to show how we are accomplishing the
mission of furthering ideals and promoting welfare of USMA. Not sure what
they should be, but a suggestion is to provide a goal to strengthen the
Cadet/Graduates tie to Country as a servant. Current goals are fine to
strengthen the Association
[374] More specific goals that support membership. Specific legislative
goals regarding the continuation and promotion of the Academy. The AOG
is the right organization to do this. If they do not support these goals,
who will?
[375] No is not accurate. I would like to see more emphasis on how
USMA contributes to the Army.
[376] Put some backbone in the institution and get away from political
correctness.
[377] Does not address supporting the Corps, such as awards, sponsorships,
etc.
[378] Support in finding qualified candidates for admission
[379] Focus on bringing together a more integrated network to help
fellow graduates as they look for new jobs after transitioning out of active
Army service or changing jobs as their civilian careers evolve. A much
stronger network needs to be developed where graduates can go to get assistance
and help in this highly volatile employment environment that we all face
in the future.
[380] a complete AOG packet for grads not in the ARMY.
[381] Include developing a closer tie to the business comunity
[382] We don't need the AOG to develop pride. I don't know what an
assistance package for active Army officers is? Why so much emphasis on
jocks?
[383] The goals specifically mention graduates in the Army, but say
nothing about those outside of it. I don't know this to be the case, but
I suspect that graduates in the civilian work force have the greater ability
to donate money to AOG.
[384] These could be adequate if you have acceptable Measurements
of Effectiveness. How do you propose to accurately measure success or failure?
[385] Goals 1, 2, 3, 5(a) and 6 appear vague and non-measurable.
How will anyone know when they have been accomplished? I am really less
concerned with AAA than with other extra-curriculars (obviously, I wasn't(am
not a jock) Different goals Identify reasons why some graduates drop out
of sight after graduation. Develop a program to assist graduates transitioning
from military to civilian service.
[386] Goals three should be foremost.
[387] Impliment a voluntary data base as above described for the
mutual benefit of all AOG members.
[388] recruit top notch athletes
[389] Agree with developing an assistance package for grads in the
Army, PROVIDED that "the Army" includes the reserve components. There is
an ever-increasing number of grads in the USAR and ARNG.
[390] Most of the goals do not seem to have a logical method of measurement
(ex. "instill pride"). It seems like they should be re-written so the success
can be measured.
[391] too much emphasis on athletics. Unclear success criteria. employee
benefits improvements is usually not a goal.
[392] Put AOG members in touch with other USMA graduates in their
geographic area; provide professional contacts within the AOG for AOG members
(e.g., provide a data base of AOG members with similar or compatible professional
interests or needs).
[393] Unsure, as link failed to function on my PC.
[394] Need to talk about things we actually do, rather than improving
communications and relations. Meaningful projects will achieve these results.
[395] Proposed Goal 1 raises the question "Pride in what?" Proposed
Goal 3 is too broad--changes focus from Association of Graduates to Association
of the Army. Proposed Goal 4 appears to change us to the fund raising arm
of the AAA.
[396] SEE #15
[397] See 15 above. Also, the AOG should discourage local societies
from promoting civilian career enhancement. Once you could go to the NY
chapter meetings and it was tightly focused on USMA needs. Now it is focused
on personal career enhancement. There is a need to help graduates who leave
the service find civilian employment, but this should not be a primary
focus of these organizations.
[398] The AOG's gaols associated with WP and the membership and those
of the AOG staff do not belong in the same management list! One of the
more obvious disconnects between AOG members and the AOG is that the AOG
is so internally focused.
[399] Goals #1, #2, and (especially) #4 are unclear: What are the
problems being addressed? I would also add goals related to the following
problems: 1. Unlike USMA's civilian "competitors" (e.g., the Ivy League),
USMA doesn't (can't?) directly address civilian career development. Yet
the majority of grads enter civilian careers at a young age, and virtually
all by middle age. AOG needs to address overall career issues, not just
those associated with Army careers. 2. The Army and the country suffer
as a result of the weak relationship between grads and the USAR. AOG should
study the relationship between its constituents and the Army Reserve: what
percentage enter drilling reserve status, barriers to doing so, etc. Where
appropriate, AOG should foster the relationship--a reserve section in Assembly,
etc.
[400] Acknowledging goal 3, continued emphasis on the values(concrete
and intangible)added to the American society by the USMA must be a significant
goal of the AOG.
[401] Career transition assistance should be a primary objective
of the organization.
[402] Don't believe the compensation of Employees is appropriate
for an annual goal.Board ought to be able to handle that.
[403] Goals #1, #2, and (especially) #4 are unclear: What are the
problems being addressed? I would also add goals related to the following
problems: 1. Unlike USMA's civilian "competitors" (e.g., the Ivy League),
USMA doesn't (can't?) directly address civilian career development. Yet
the majority of grads enter civilian careers at a young age, and virtually
all by middle age. AOG needs to address overall career issues, not just
those associated with Army careers. 2. The Army and the country suffer
as a result of the weak relationship between grads and the USAR. AOG should
study the relationship between its constituents and the Army Reserve: what
percentage enter drilling reserve status, barriers to doing so, etc. Where
appropriate, AOG should foster the relationship--a reserve section in Assembly,
etc.
[404] Encourage participation in reunions and other special events.
[405] BUT........ what OBJECTIVES have we set to achieve these GOALS?
Sounds like there are too many GOALS anyway.
[406] What about the graduates that are not in the military or retired
from the military?
[407] #3 is particularly good.
[408] The specific focus on the 'athletic project' ("Assist the WPF
in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those directed to the Army Athletic
Project.") is excessive. I've read the explanations in Assembly and can't
find a compelling reason for this kind of focus. I'd like to see it deleted.
[409] Why is goal 2 needed? Goal 7 is questionable, appears to be
self serving and may explain why goal 2 is needed.
[410] AOG employee benefits/compensation is an implied goal or any
organization, and should not be confused with the organizational goals.
[411] They appear focused on housekeeping and not accomplishments.
They need to be supportive of the Purpose Statement given in block 16
[412] Yes, but: Very general, not measurable, and generally require
more time than specified to achieve. What specifically are you going to
accomplish. I won't be able to tell if you are successful; how will you
know? What is in it for me? Like most graduates, I am no longer in the
Military, but want to ensure the Academy is successful. I usually donate
to AOG or USMA, but I don't even know where the money goes. I stopped getting
the Assembly, because I found, other than the general state of the Academy,
it had little information I was interested in.
[413] no 1 is too tough to measure to be viable. goal regarding member
services is too vague. missing a goal regarding promotion of academy image
and support to recruiting
[414] There are graduates in other services! Can't you rephrase your
AOG services tosupport those graduates still in military service and eliminate
the Army only phraseology.
[415] I don't remember a lot of emphasis being placed on AOG while
I was a cadet. This may have changed, but if not, I would encourage AOG
to develop a more identifiable program for introducing cadets to the purposes
and benefits of the AOG.
[416] The goals don't seem nested with the mission statement. They
don't seem to fully support furthering the ideals and welfare of USMA.
[417] I agree with all the goals except number 7. Items 1-6 are in
accordance with the "Outreach" function which is inherent in the association's
purpose. Item 7 is a "housekeeping" function, albeit something your employees
consider important, but one which I do not believe belongs in your goals
for the association. That should be listed on somebody's support form as
an objective, not a goal.
[418] Improve Assembly
[419] What other goals have been actively and/or seriously considered?
[420] The goals are fine insofar as they go. One additional goal
should be to facilitate communication between the graduates and the current
administration (Supe, Com, Dean, etc). In particular, I was struck by the
Superintendents recent letter in "The Assembly" complaining about the graduates'
views on women at USMA. His summarization of their complaints, listed as
the "Four F's", trivializes a serious issue. I would have been personally
insulted if I had made any arguments to him personally on the subject.
He is left with two problems which neither he nor others can explain. First,
someone (not the current Supe) changed the USMA mission. The change is
serious and significant. While it enables USMA to admit, educate and train
some very capable young ladies, it robs the Academy of its previous mission
to train officers for the combat arms. How does it then differ from ROTC
and other less expensive alternatives? In a time of belt tightening for
the Armed Forces, he'd better think about that unless he wants to be known
as the last Supe. Second, there are separate standards for men and women.
This is a fact of life whether it is stated or unstated. Presidents and
Congress cannot issue directives and legislation which modify Nature as
it unfolds. The Supe is in the embarassing position of being unable to
explain why it was so important for everyone to matricuate equally before
whereas it is somehow unimportant now. It is not enough to mention that
the women have outstanding academic and leadership records. No one challenges
that. Their presence in an institution which heretofore trained leaders
for the combat arms is a puzzling question for which he has provided no
answer. Nor do I believe he can provide an answer. The fact is that I wouldn't
want his job for anything. I think he is trapped in a time period where
he can do little else but carry on with the orders to integrate women into
the program with as little damage to USMA as possible. What I object to
is his trivialization of the arguments of the "old grads" reducing serious
arguments to slogans. As he deals with this political issue, he should
remember some sage political advice. That advice is, "don't lose your political
base." When all is said and done, most politicians in this current environment
will opt for expediency. If the Supe has to rally some support from the
"old grads", imagine how willing those he insulted will be to rally for
any cause. I think the Supe's remarks which were insulting were avoidable
with better communications. I can understand his frustration with a very
difficult situation, but don't insult your friends.
[421] Not sure what WPF is.
[422] ADD; Commission cadet graduates as Lts., Regular Army.
[423] Develop an AOG assistance package for those graduates who leave
the service. See 15above.
[424] Develop an active political organization (PAC) which supports
those candidates for national office who will work for the preservation
and continuation of our national academies. I am very concerned that there
are a number of elected officials (including the current President and
Vice-President) who have an agenda to dilute or eliminate these necessary
foundations for our national defense. We were warned about this by GEN
MacArthur in 1962.
[425] Goal 5 could be worded a little more crisply.
[426] Many goals are not measureable. How can you determine if you
have "instilled pride" or "monitored". Please add metrics for measuring
success. The attainment of a goal is GO/NO GO.
[427] Delete: 4. Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army. How about other graduates?
[428] Promote a full career for USMA graduates. Too many, in my opinion,
seek the education as stepping stone to other professional interests. Too
many young grads, particularly the females, serve minimum time and are
out.
[429] Further the career/networking opportunities for grads. If the
AOG does not do anything for its members, many in the civilian side will
tire of simply being hit up during fundraisers. The reasons for keeping
up with AOG activities now are for personal friendships and professional
networking.
[430] see 15 above.
[431] Provide a historical basis, either written or verbal, to cadets
about the importance of having and using good and positive moral traits.
These traits are essential in order to maintain an effective fighting force
and to ultimately support a civilization that is constructive and fruitful.
[432] AOG Assiatance package for all graduates not just those still
in the Army. A West Point graduate's wealth of knowledge, experience and
character is not contirubuted to the nation by military service alone.
AOG should be focused on graduates, not family, US Army, or American Public.
Graduates can carry the message to the family, US Army, or American Public.
[433] We need more emphasis on the American Public. They are mentioned
in the 3d goal; and then only as one of 6 entities between which greater
communcations are necessary. The truth is that we need to continuously
enhance the reputation of USMA with the American public. USMA is among
the greatest institutions in our country but we apparently have no mechanism
in place to counter the corrosive treatment the media and others give all
institutions in our land. AOG may be the right organization to address
this issue, unless it's already a USMA mission. If it is a USMA mission,
we need to help them out because it takes everyone's efforts to do the
job well.
[434] Let's focus a little less on supporting sports, and but more
effort in to supporting cadet educational and moral development programs.
[435] I have insufficient information to make a recommended list,
however I can agree that the stated goals are generally acceptable. I don't
know much about goals #4 and #5, so I'm not sure of how appropriate they
are.
[436] Deemphasize fund raising and add a goal to minimize the number
of full time AOG employees. The AOG is not an industry.
[437] Address the problem of Regular Army commissions for graduates.
[438] Without further explanation, I don't see "instill pride" as
a legitimate goal. Pride is a result of achievement. Perhaps there is a
broader context that I am missing that might be included.
[439] The goal statement does not speak strongly enough to the AOG
serving to lobby Congress on behalf of USMA.
[440] Goals 1,2,3,4,6 and 7 are acceptable as goals with goals being
defined as general open-ended achievements to be accomplished in the next
five or more years. To get these accomplished you need to develop specific
four part objective statements that contain something to be measured,a
scale on which to measure it,what constitutes success on the scale and
the time-frame in which it is to be accomplished. Unless yearly specific
four-part objective statements are defined and an action plan made as to
how these will get done and evaluation and control metrics are designed
to track each objective, it is questionable whether anything will be accomplished
by these general open ended goals. Goal 5 and b. I would take out as the
primary purpose(back to the mission of the AOG) is to support graduate
members and not to fund raise. That is the mission of the West Point Fund
not the AOG. They may be under one roof but the AOG and WPF have different
purposes. I recommend the WPF and AOG be kept separate and that fund raising
be left by charter and mission to the WPF. The AOG needs to serve and support
members and not be involved in the auxilliary fund raising for USMA. I
would recommend adding the following goals: 1. To support class organizations.
2. To support the West Point Societies. 3. To support parent Clubs 4. To
support the Society recruiting efforts of Societies for qualified candidates
with regard to leadership, academics and athletics. 5. To develop a relational
database of information on members that will serve both the AOG and the
WPF for demographic and other types of segmentation for AOG research, marketing
and fund raising purposes. 6. To continue to develop and support the career
development/position availability/position availibility efforts that are
currently being lead by the Societies with sponsorship of the AOG
[441] I do not believe it emphasizes the importance of the link to
the local societies. It should be cooperative and NOT a controlling one.
I also believe that the AOG should play a stronger role in helping the
new graduates be successful in the military or commercial world. Perhaps
more network support similar to what we now have via the webpages.
[442] Delete the last one. Although management should work on those
issues, it is overstated to be a goal of the Association as a whole. It
makes it sound like the Association exists to take care of itself, which
is definitely not true.
[443] Fundraising goals.
[444] Seek to make USMA more self-sufficient (and less reliant on
public financing) by increasing private funding.
[445] Adjust them to add specifics. 1. I don't think you need to
instill pride in any of us, perhaps this goal should be oriented towards:
... developing an AOG that each graduate (former cadet and dependeants,
etc) would take the effort to join and routinely support. 2. I have not
seen nor heard of a lack of faith or trust in the AOG. Perhaps this would
be better worded to place the emphasis on... an active (two way) give and
take between the AOG and ts members. Other than $$ what can the members
be asked to do, what can societies and classes be asked to accomplis and
how can this be tracked. 3. The goal of improving communications is open
ended, it should have some attainable tasks included (like the 4th goal
about developing a package for grads in the Army. Through surveys, assignment
of projects and quarterly/semi-annual/ annual reports of the progress,
etc. 6. Specifics.
[446] Don't understand the Army Athletic Project. Does this duplicate/support
the AAA? If so, why? Let the AAA handle the athletic subsidization
[447] Drop goal 7.
[448] Appears to be greater emphasis on athletics and I think #5
and #6 should have broader emphasis, i.e. focus on academics and military.
[449] Delete Goal 1 "Instill pride, etc." Pride comes with West Point
and one's perception of it. One either has it or does not. Nothing AOG
can do about that. Second goal is, perhaps, an issue that needs resolution.
I don't know what goes on between AOG membership and management, but there's
lots to the perception that all's not well between them. Maybe AOG staff
have been there too long? Some believe that current members (?) have lost
touch with AOG membership. One particular AOG member sure has if reports
I've heard are correct.
[450] So, so. I'd rather see academic, writ broadly, goals precede
athletic ones.
[451] A lot of stuff about Army Athletics, but I did not see anything
about supporting the need to bring the Mission of West Point back into
focus; i.e., to provide the Battle Captains for our nation's Army!!!
[452] Didn't feel like opening another window.
[453] Too much focus on AOG members communications with AOG management.
Should place the focus on enhancing communications throughout the membership.
In other words, more focus on horizontal rather than vertical communications.
[454] Delete 1,2,7
[455] To increase the competitive advantages of West Point as a undergraduate
option to qualifed candidates who would contribute leaders of character
to the Army.
[456] I feel the athletic goal is superficial and the resources could
be better used to work for the more serious aspects of the academy's purposes.
[457] Again, tough to really add or subtract when I really do not
understand the mission of the AOG.
[458] Your management goals seem to be "heavy" on serving the "AOG".
In today's emphasis on "right-sizing" I would expect to see a very lean
AOG organization. My perception of the AOG is that you are not.
[459] Other than goal number 7, you literally can't tell an objective
observer whether you have reached your goals. How about actually committing
to numbers, like they do in the real world? How will you measure "improved
coordination?"
[460] Goals did not come up - an under construction icon appeared
[461] Service to graduates should be an improvement goal as well
as communications
[462] Prior cadets separated due to certain circumstances (not disciplinary
or honor code related), especially after their cow year should feel more
welcome.
[463] See above
[464] Appears to be too many goals to achieve focus and mastery.
[465] Don't neglect that the AOG has a responsibility to maintain
ties with graduates who have served or are now serving in the other services
ie. USAF USN
[466] All seven proposed targets should be deleted, because progress
toward reaching them cannot be measured. Six specific management courses
of action should be substituted as follows: (1) Increase actions binding
Graduates together in support of the highest ideals of Duty, Honor, Country;
(2) improve preservation and publication of USMA history with the records
of Graduate accomplishment; (3) initiate and sponsor improved activities
to protect the traditions and development of the Academy; (4) increase
programs to provide Graduates means for coummunication and participation;
(5) step up action to further the highest standards at the Military Academy;
and (6) initiate and iprove actions which encourage top qualified aspirants
to the Profession of Arms to qualify for the Corps and as officers in the
Regular Army.
[467] Keep graduates informed of major issues facing USMA
[468] - I would be interested to hear the details on the goal of
establishing an assistance package for graduates in the Army. What exactly
does that mean? I just left active duty and in 5 years, I can honestly
say that I never ran into the storied "West Point Protective Society."
Nonetheless, I took an awful lot of flak from peers and superiors about
this mythic entity. Depending on the form of this assistance package and
how it is carried out, it may foster ill will. - I received a lot of help
from the AOG as I was leaving the service. Many of the contacts I was put
in touch with helped me along in the transition. I was surprised there
was no specific mention of an assistance program for graduates who are
making the transition to the civilian world. That is a trying time and
with the network of alumin societies already set up, it would be easy to
formalize something.
[469] Goal 2 is particularly valuable to me. This survey is the first
time that AOG has solicited any opinion from me in the many years I have
subscribed to Assembly.
[470] Move USMA back toward producing Army Officers that can lead.
[471] Obtain full financia support for USMA from Congress, DOD and
DOA
[472] Nothing is presented when I click on "goals."
[473] The first three are inseparable
[474] The goals might be more effective and measurable if they weren't
quite so vague.
[475] While supporting athletics is important, USMA appears to searching
for a viable mission for the 21st Century. I would like to see a greater
commitment to the military instruction of cadets. the word-of-mouth that
I receive indicates that the military instruction is considered secondary
to that of academics and athletics.
[476] These goals are too fluffy to provide any measure of success
for AOG. Objectively where are we at and where to we want to go? Management
101
[477] They all sound like nice internal administrative goals. Judging
from the tone of the West Point Forum, there ought to be something about
the fixing West Point.
[478] I have little or no basis for an opinion on these - are there
some really imaginative and wonderful things that could be done?
[479] How will you quantify goals 1 & 2. I do not dispute their
importance, but I challenge your or my ability to critically assess AOG's
success with respect to these goals in 2000.
[480] I think you guys should automate the ability of the grads to
use the Register data. This ought to be a goal...ie, produce a CD Rom of
the information and make it usable in an Access or some other common database
engine.
[481] #7 - Compensation/benefit package? I haven't seen any commercial
companies have that as a goal. I know AOG is developing, but that seems
to be an administrative requirement, not an organizational goal.
[482] Server unable to retreive goals
[483] Need AOG assistance package for ALL grads, not just those in
the Army.
[484] The need for communications with the American Public warrants
a separate goal of its own, rather than buried in another as it currently
is shown. As the division between the military and the public grows, it
is important to tell the Academy's story and to educate the public on the
continuing Nation's continuing need for dedicated professinal USMA graduates.
[485] Delete AOG compensation/benefiot pkg for employees...that a
business by product and not a core function relevent to most graduates.
[486] The communication portion should be ranked first. With little
communication to grads around the globe and the difficulty in getting together,
the communication will lead to the pride.
[487] I am not especially keen about AOG getting closer to AAA and
pushing for donations to benefit AAA. See Goals #5 & 6. Army Athletic
Project??
[488] Promote the Army and USMA among legislatures.
[489] See mission statement - break down into implied tasks
[490] I do not understand goal 4. What kind of assistance? I would
strongly urge the AOG to become THE NETWORK HUB for placement of graduates
in industry after leaving the Army. There are many of us in positions who
are looking for graduates as prospective employees, especially in leadership
and management roles.
[491] There should be a goal to actively communicate with Congress
to increase funding to the Academys. This should be done in a joint effort
with the USAFA and USNA. Get backing from other influential organizations
such as AARP.
[492] Do not believe that the coordination with AAA for Athletic
facilities should be in the realm of the AOG. Also, while compensation
packages are important for organizations to find good quality people, AOG
is an organization aimed at providing support to the academy and it's graduates,
not to the AOG employees.
[493] career development/job placement ... see #17 below
[494] Add a goal that clearly outlines an expansion in the programs/assistance
available to those graduuates that have been out of the military for some
time.
[495] Many of the goals are internally focused (such as developing
a compensation package for AOG employees) I do not dispute the need for
this activity but I believe that goals for AOG should be directed toward
achievements that serve its "customers", i.e., the grads rather than on
those items that may be necessary to function as an organization. I do
think that the assistance package (although I am not sure what it is) is
probably an appropriate goal. Other goals might to be: 1. Provide increased
assistance to local societies 2. Improving graduate job placement activities
3. Providing the Assembly on the internet. I'd also suggest that goals
include measures of what constitutes success or accomplishment. Ususally
these include timetables or specific, objective, measurable achievements,
i.e., Grad assistance program established by 1/1/99. The goals seem to
be more goals for AOG's Management than for the AOG itself.
[496] Assist graduates currently in the military (active and reserve
components) in their career development. (We seem to have become embarrassed/afraid
of what used to be referred to as the West Point Protective Association)
[497] It seems to me you have mixed internal and external goals.
They ought to be separated.
[498] You can not close down the Proposed Mangement Goals--software
needs work.
[499] ...refelecting what I said in #17.
[500] The focus of the graduate assistant package should be career
transition.
[501] How about "build an organization that better reflects the beliefs
of the membership, and better coordinates their efforts to forward the
goals of the academy.
[502] For as long as the AOG has been around, shouldn't these ahve
been figured out long ago? If not, has there been a significant change
to the program to make now an appropriate time to reorganize? I feel like
you want me to give you money to figure out how to do your job.
[503] Re Goal #3: AOG seems to reflect being a one way conduit for
Army policy "of the moment", not necessarily what may be the best long-term
interest of the Academy. AOG should not only help inform the public on
behalf of USMA/USA, it should also provide sympathetic, informed criticism
back to the Army on matters affecting USMA. Communication, as a goal, is
a two-way street.
[504] In fact, the management goals support my earlier statement
about the Association's Purpose Statement, so jazz up the purpose statement.
[505] There never seems to be a mention of grads who went to Air
Force, or the few who went to Marines.
[506] Not sure
[507] Need to not jump on "Army sports" bandwagon. We are not a Michigan
or Florida State or Duke. We need to emphasize West Point's core competency,
which is not sports. Look at what grads are doing on active duty, in the
reserve, in the federal govt. The average good recruit is not going to
be a great collegiate athlete, much less a pro athlete, but are budding
leaders. Leadership for our country, esp in the military but also in other
govt agencies, is what we must emphasize.
[508] Add- Support and maintain the ideals of the AOG membership
and communicate these to the USMA. (see notes above as to society pressure
on the ideals of the USMA and thus the AOG should not support all the changes
or the people involved in those changes and should find ways to communicate
this to its members.)
[509] Seems to be a lot of attention on the AOG staff and its management
vice AOG purpose and attainment of objectives that accomplish that purpose.
[510] I don't understand the need for an "assistance package" for
those on active duty. If the purposeof the AOG is to support the academy,
the services provided by the AOG should not extend preferentially to various
groups of graduates. The services of the assocaition should be focused
on the cadet and those who serve at the academy.
[511] It isn't clear what Goal #4 refers to. I suppose it isn't meant
for me. I would point out that there are graduates in the other services,
as well.
[512] The AOG should stop fund raising for sports and should disassociate
with the AAA.
[513] Support for rescinding the "Sam Nunn Disaster". (As a n area
coordinator I have already seen hints of recognition that lack of a regular
army commission dilutes dedication to USMA)
[514] regular vs reserve status of grads...... not understood &
potential implications for the academy
[515] A primary goal should be working to preserve and enhance WP's
traditional role of supplying top-quality officers to the Army. - It should
be noted that of the seven goals listed, only three (4,5,7) actually have
an end product; the other four (1,2,3,6) are all aimed at improving or
creating what are deemed to be favorable conditions, presumably with the
idea that these will assist in actually doing something. Of the first three,
#7 is actually a "condition-improver," in that it is presumably designed
to make the AOG more effective in actually doing something. So, we are
left with only two "product" items. Significantly, one of these is fund-raising.
[516] transition assistance from active duty to civilian
[517] Develop a strategy to enlist AOG members in a campaign to thwart
the efforts of those in our government (President and members of Congress)
who would erode the institution and that for which it stands.
[518] I don not want all listed goals, but pose no objection.
[519] The focus of the AOG should not be extended to Army Athletic
programs
[520] Although support to AAA and the athletic program is implied
in any alumni organization, I think it is too openly stated. It should
not be stated more strongly than any of the other areas of support.
[521] Keep graduates informed on issues on which graduates can be
of help.
[522] Benefits are a condition of employment and negotiation, not
a goal of membership or AOG outreach. Delete it from the list, it is housekeeping.
[523] MY COMMENTS ARE IN CAPS: 1. Instill pride in the AOG membership
(TOO SOFT OF A GOAL. NEED MORE DEFINITIVE GOALS TO RALLY THE ORGANIZATION
AROUND). 2. Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the AOG
membership and the AOG management. (AGAIN, TOO SOFT) 3. Continue to improve
the communication process between the AOG staff, AOG membership, the extended
West Point family, USMA, the U.S. Army, and the American public. (GOOD)
4. Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in the Army. (VERY GOOD.
THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF GOAL THE ORGANIZATION SHOULD HAVE. ) 5. (a)
Monitor the expansion of the WPF and the development of the 2002 capital
campaign. (b) Assist the WPF in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those
directed to the Army Athletic Project. (OK) 6. Improve the coordination
between USMA/AAA/AOG. (OK) 7. Develop a comprehensive compensation/benefit
package for AOG employees. (OK)
[524] Not sure what #4 means. What is an assistance package? Why
only assistance packages for graduates in the Army? Seems that the majority
of graduates are not in the Army.
[525] More information to members of West Point Societies via the
www.
[526] Ref the last goal- who is going to determine the criteria for
what a compensation employee package is? Is this one in there due to turnover
of employees or what- it just doesn't seem to fit in with the rest.
[527] Add: Provide each graduate hard statistical information on
West Point's annual costs, retention in the Army, etc. in order to explain
to non West Point graduates that West Point is still a valuable source
of officers.
[528] I assume these management goals are for internal AOG staff
application. This isn't clear. In addition there does not seem to be correlation
between the management goals and the AOG "Purpose". If these goals are
to improve AOG staff operations, this probably should be an internal document.
If not, the goals should be directed toward accomplishing the Purpose statement:
"...furthering ideals and promoting welfare of USMA..." What is the AOG
assistance package (Goal 4)?
[529] career advice, specifically for retirees who have a tougher
time finding new careers. Junior Officers can use one of the many placement
firms in existence so they are taken care of. Resume writing and networking
advice is sorely needed as well as interviewing skills. An improved network
for those retirees to tap into is necessary as well(coaches, mentors).
[530] These are good goals to have but have proven to be very difficult
to attain. There does not seem to be the open communication from the AOG
to the membership. By far the most communication that I receive is for
solicitation for contributions as well as Assembly and Register order forms.
From some participation in the WP Society, there does not seem to be a
feeling that the people at AOG understand the needs and concerns of those
graduates "in the field". I do not have any direct experience in that establishment
of trust and communication for the first reason stated above.
[531] could not open the document
[532] Improve the understanding by the American Public and Congress
of West Point's mission and the West Point experience in producing officers
and leaders.
[533] 1. Not required. 2. What casued the relationship to become
so bad that it is the No.2 mission for 1998? Maybe the AOG staff needs
to reasses itself to see what it's problem has been. 3.- 4.More clearly
define what this is. Is this a package so that programs can be more easilly
handled by newly electe Local presidents? 5. Why do we need a capital improvement
program when that is congress's responsibility.? 6. - 7. Are there so many
employees that this needs to be one of the main goals with which the association's
directors must rassle. Why not: Assure that congress funds 90% of the capital
improivements which the Army Chief of staff presents to congress. Raise
the number of qualified applicants from current level by 15% through grass
roots recruiting efforts sponsored by the AOG. Provide for the support
of graduates who separate from active duty in attaining meaningful after
active duty employment.
[534] The goals list is pretty good - clear, specific, and actionable.
[535] BEAT NAVY
[536] should also provide a comprehensive transition assistance program
for graduates seeking civilian employment. (Currently, the majority of
graduates use the standard "headhunters" that stalk us the day we graduate).
This program should be developed and advertised to ensure that our graduates
are aware of all options when they make this critical decision.
[537] In a quick reading of the goals, they do not — for the most
part— strike me as supportive of the AOG Mission. Which, for example, have
anything to do with promoting the ideals of the academy? I have to assume
the members of the AOG are pleased to be members — but my pride is in being
a graduate. How about a goal that says we will work to help instill national
pride in the academy?
[538] These goals are "fuzzies." I am not a Harvard MBA graduate,
but I think they teach you at any college of business what a "fuzzy" is:
A statement that is "general, vague, indistinct, ambiguous, or not verifiable....It
could be satisfied by an enormous variety of end conditions. It does not
specify action very clearly....An effective goal statement is not fuzzy.
It leaves no uncertainty about the desired end conditions. It enables the
person who must achieve it to compare various possible actions and to select
those which will bring it about. The following characteristics identify
an effective goal statement: Specific...Payoff-oriented... Intrinsically
rewarding...Realistic...Observable..." See "Successful Management by Objectives"
by Karl Albrecht, New York: Prentice Hall Press, 1978, Chapter 6, p. 72-89.
[539] Emphasis is needed on Goal 4--Support for graduates still in
the Army. Too much AOG help seems directed at those who've left active
duty.
[540] 1 through 3 look good. I am unsure of the details on items
4 through 7 and would need more information to say they reflect goals I
want for the AOG.
[541] Ensuring that USMA maintains the continuity of ideals and standards
that were set by previous generations. To be an active voice in setting
the policies, goals, and standards at the USMA.
[542] #2 is very very scary...Why shouldn't I have confidence in
you. Confidence comes from actions and if you truly inspire and meet your
mission --we will judge you on your merit. #7 I'm unaware of the number
of employees, salaries, background & the type of compensation now.
[543] I don't know enough about AOG mgt issues to make a worthwhile
statement
[544] First 3 goals are fine.
[545] The only goal I see, in a quick look, that focuses on the purpose
statement is that of raising money and something about graduates on active
duty. While I don't have problems with these or the other goal statements
per se, it does not seem that the goals reflect a focus on the AOG purpose
statement. Taken as a whole, the goals seems to reflect and operational
rather than a strategic focus. Also, I find that goals that say "continue
to improve" have little value since there is no good metric to measure
success. In sum, I think you need to review the goals and be more definitive.
Demand that the goals link directly to the purpose statement and be MEASUREABLE.
As an example, a goal might be to have 90 percent of all living graduates
electronically linked to the AOG through class listservs and current West
Point general information distributed through this network. The goal is
measureable and serves the Long Gray Line (which means you really need
my addition above).
[546] Based upon my limited knowledge, the seem reasonable.
[547] Delete goal 7. Add: Support efforts to include retired military
under the category of persons eligible for the medical care provided to
other government employees.
[548] AOG will better represent the views of graduates in the policies
adopted at West Point.
[549] promote career and networking assistance to civilian graduates
[550] Add: Support for RA commissions for graduates.
[551] Recommend that the goals be more measureable. Goals like "Instill
pride in membership" are meaningless.
[552] Work more closely in support of each class activities such
as reunions.
[553] Elicit interest and encourage membership from graduates who
have not previously joined AOG or participated in alumnae affairs.
[554] Ithink there is too much emphasis on fund raising. Many of
us have other worthy charities of even higher priority than the AOG.
[555] Only goals 4,5, and the last goal about benefits seem to be
specific and actionable - the others are either inwardly focussed or too
nebulous What are you specifically going to do to improve communication
and coordination, etc? How will you measure your success or progress?
[556] make #3 the #1 priority
[557] None to be added
[558] See 15. Also disagree with "graduate assistance package for
those in the Army." What is that? AOG should NEVER sponsor programs that
favor any sub-group within it--in this case, grads still serving. Civilian
grads continue to feel like second-class citizens, and this needs to be
changed. I also don't think Athletics should receive such AOG emphasis.
USMA is about warfighting, not ball tossing. And again, why discriminate
against non-athletic programs?
[559] Define the relationship between the AOG and the Superintendant
more clearly. This particular issue seems to have been the source of unnecessary
heat and light in my class (1958) and vagueness on this one point may lead
to further miusunderstandings.
[560] Comment: How do these goals relate to the AOG Purpose Statement?
[561] 1-5 are ok. 6, I'm not that interested in the relationship
with AAA and AOG. 7 should be deleted - does not serve the membership at
large. Where is the focus on admissions and pounding the pavememt to get
the best candidates who then become the graduates and leaders of tomorrow??
[562] Add: Increase information available to the graduate
[563] I think to No. 6 the following should be added "and USMA Alumni."
[564] I, probably like many disgruntled grads, am being turned off
by the increasingly "politically correctness" of USMA.
[565] publish a consolidated list of all USMA/AOG/ AAA Web Sites/Phone
numbers, etc.
[566] Goal #1 is ambiguous, doesn't say much (other suggestions will
be processed through class leadership response).
[567] To accomplish these goals, a better job must be done in locating
graduates and establishing communication in their current location.
[568] 1. Add the RA commission issue to the list
[569] I don't know enough about what the AOG is doing to have an
opinion about this year's goals.
[570] Improve the network of graduates in the civilian sector and
those soon to be
[571] I'd like to know what the performance metrics for goals 1 and
2 are...
[572] See General Kutnya's letter on fund raising. It makes a lot
of sense to me.
[573] If I turned in goals like this for three years in my company,
I'd be run out on a rail. Nothing in there is measureable, there are no
time elements/milestones. How do you know when the goals are achieved (metrics)
and by when they will be accomplished (milestones/commitment). Numbers
1-6 are all admirable and I feel generally correct for the AOG to be doing.
Number 7 has nothing to do with the purpose of the AOG. Its an internal
administration point and should be removed. I'd like to see some focus
on graduates NOT in the Army. There are more of us outside the service
than inside. This is particularly important when you're trying to raise
money. The post service grads have access to more sources of funding than
the active duty guys do. Use the resources. Target a 100% increase in non
personal contributions or something. Think big. The money is out there
in corporate funding and foundations.
[574] Develop an AOG assistance program for graduates working in
civilian professions.
[575] Assist graduates no longer serving on active duty
[576] Goal 1: I would think the target would be strengthening pride
in people's association with West Point rather than in the AOG in an of
itself. Goal 4: I don't know what issues this is intended to be addressing
and what this entails exactly, so I don't have an opinion. Goal 6: I think
this is a good one. Particularly in the area of athletics, I would be more
inclined to attend Army sports in my local area if I had easy access to
better information on where/when they were being held. I think more could
be done to provide this information as part of the overall communications
process. Goal 7: This may be an important thing to do for the employees
(again I don't know what the underlying issues are), but it doesn't seem
to me to be appropriate to include it in this list - just do it.
[577] Maximize the investment earnings while prudently preserving
capital and liquidity.
[578] Delete: Instill pride in AOG membership. That seems to be a
product of the success of USMA rather than anything the AOG can do. Questionable:
AOG assistance package for graduates in the Army? Not sure what is referred
to here; if it is assisting grads in remaining in the Service, then OK.
[579] Leverage the AOG network which is in the civilian sector, job
recruiting, networking for jobs and in general hiring AOG personnel.
[580] #7 is an internal goal that does not need to be communicated
externally
[581] Less fund raising
[582] The list is OK by me
[583] All seem reasonable but I am not certain if I understand goal
1. Is it pride in being a dues paying member of AOG or is it pride in being
able to be a member since I am a graduate? If it is in being a dues paying
member, the issue our society is addressing is what value does AOG provide
to the members. The pride would just be an outgrowth of the value of being
a member in a dynamic organization.
[584] I am not comfortable with the AOG becoming a "Big Bucks" soliciter.
As more and more $s are sought and collected MONEY will take over the purpose
of the Association.
[585] Delete West Point Fund fundraising.
[586] Improve the image of the current USMA. Many in civilian life
look upon it as merely a college or university supported by the tax payer.
[587] Goals 1,2,3,7 seem intended to strengthen the AOG - presumably
to more capably further the ideals and promote the welfare of USMA. What
is item 4? Job assistance? Casualty assistance? Both? More? Item 5 refers
to funds; 5b and 6 focus on athletics. I hope the emphasis on athletics
is balanced with other activities (albeit less visible) which are elements
of the ideals of West Point.
[588] Form tighter bonds with each respective class.
[589] ADD: As financial resources for direct military training of
all cadets are reduced, provide funding to augment current congressional
appropriations for realistic military training in the field with active
duty units of all cadets.
[590] However, goal #5 relating to WPF and what it proposes to do
needs to be clarified.
[591] I believe we have mixed goals and tasks: 1, 2/3, and 6 are
goals and are acceptable 4 and 6 are tasks As regards 5 I do not know what
WPF is; nor have I studied the capital campaign in enough detail. I believe
this task could be stated better.
[592] Does AOG want to look outside of direct WP needs to "further
the ideals" of WP? For example, does AOG want to manage something like
a multi-class gift, donation, endowment, etc. of some non-USMA connected
cause, project, etc? Something like Carnegie did for libraries, do we want
to fund hospitals, labs, sports facilites, or whatever, in impoverished/lower
income/needy communities? Just a thought...I mean we're searching for new
ways to spend money on an institution that is in (if nothing else) relatively
great shape.
[593] why is aog instead of the school the focus why do athlethics
hold such a central place isn't there something bigger we're missing in
these goals? the aog is an arm of the school, not something we take pride
is as a single entitty.
[594] establish benchmarks to measure progress, otherwise how will
you know when AOG is successful?
[595] --what are the issue the Assoc shoudl take on with the Army,
the services, etc. We have a VOICE. Whay do we go along with the BS that
the Army leadership hads tolerated for so long that is destroyibng our
Army. We should be POLITCALLY ACTIVE on hot political issue conceringn
our nation's defense and especially the Army--else we don't count for much.
[596] Add - Increase to reclamation of lost grads.
[597] 3. delete all after AOG membership. 5. delete
[598] Excellent goals!!!
[599] The first two goals seem to assume that they can be done separately
from doing a good job being responsive to the needs of the graduates. They
make it sound like a PR campaign is coming. To me that would cover up,
or attempt to cover up, what must be problems. They make it sound as though
we'll pat ourselves on the back in public until we believe what we're saying
and maybe someone else will too.
[600] Assist graduates in the transition from active duty service
to civilian life.
[601] #4 Should be expanded. That often sneered at, denied to exist,
ad hoc organization (West Point Protective Association) must truly be developed,
strengthened and exploited to assist graduates entering the civilian work
force. While I am secure in my professional career, there are many I am
sure that face uncertainity as they transition from military to civilian
environs. Those of us that have made the transition and are in a position
to provide a boost, should. I am aware that there are efforts and endeavors
along these lines; however, I do not feel that the network is underdeveloped
at best.
[602] see memo from James G. Schleck USMA 91
[603] But -- I think the major challenge for all of us is to ensure
that the values and the institution survive.
[604] Establish valuable services for graduates that are in the civilian
world already
[605] Sustain the principles of duty, honor, country in its graduates.
Provide a forum to communicate the principles of duty, honor, country
[606] The only goal worthwhile is to reinstate the USMA to the position
it had 25 years ago and that won't be done by propaganda and self congratulations...
it'll be done by reinstating a system that is tough, focused (army career)
and self-consistent (one set of standards for all cadets). Let's get plebe
year back.
[607] Again the focus needs to be on the support of the graduate.
If we are this focused on the survivial of the institution then we are
in big trouble. Why call this the Association of Graduates when there is
no mention of services for graduates? Also what about the thousands who
get out of the military? In fact at some point all grads get out! What
does the AOG do for this? My opinion is that if an 18 year old knows they
want a career in the miliary, USMA is without a doubt a great place. Otherwise
they should look elsewhere. My analogy of a pointer who gets out is like
an athlete who is recruited by a school then gets hurt - he will be largely
ignored for the rest of his career.
[608] goals are too self-serving
[609] Would like elaboration on all goals.
[610] There was nothing alluding to recruiting the most qualified
candidates for admission to USMA.
[611] Since almost 30% OF TODAY'S CORPS are minority groups, I believe
the AOG should support with $ the work I describe above that I do.
[612] All are okay except 1 and 2... delete
[613] Open AOG membership to all former cadets.
[614] Need to think this over and not while online. I think the goal
presented are reasonable, but am not that well up to speed on the environment
in which the AOG must operate to provide an informed response.
[615] See item above. AOG should not ignore graduaates retired or
separated and in civilian life. There are probably as many or more of those
and I would be interested in seeing how the active vs inactive financial
support compares.
[616] I could not open the "goals" document
[617] I think there is too much emphasis on supporting corps squad
athletics and not enough emphasis on encouraging graduates to serve a full
military career. Less than 30% of the class of 1985 is still serving only
12.5 years after graduation.
[618] I think we need to be more explicit in the AOG role in guiding
West Point and its staff and faculty. They are admittedly government employees
and all that, but they need to consider the general views of grads. We
need to do more than keep communication open. Our organization needs to
be willing to tell them where they are off of the track and push them back
on if needed. My perception is that the AOG has long been merely an advocate
of the Supe's policies and a great gift shop. We need to be more than a
mouthpiece. Perhaps my perceptions are incomplete, but I am concerned.
Two cases in point are the absolutely terrible handling of the BS&L
leadership disaster and what I feel was inappropriate conduct by USMA staff
during the build up to this year's Navy game. Our organizaion ought not
be mute in these areas.
[619] I couldn't get to the goals page.
[620] Several not specific enough, would need to see the supporting
objectives.
[621] 4 & 5 are questionable. 4 in it's intirety. 5 in its proposed
support for the athletic program. Quite frankly, I would expect the AOG
management to be a very small organization. The purpose statement says
most of what needs to be said. Let the members do the work. AOG management
should stay lean and friendly.
[622] I have found that a goal must be measurable to be effective.
Each of your goals is subjective in nature. How will the management team
or the members at large know if the team has had successful performance
in the attainment of any of these goals?
[623] delete 1
[624] Focus on the value of a job network for the vast majority of
graduates who are now civilians.
[625] You people act like a bunch of "Clinton" politicians, trying
to eliminate tradition. You seem to be setting up a wall of BS to hide
behind, while West Point and the Army become weaker and weaker.
[626] Bring regular commisions back. The AOG President's position
on that would never win any battles!
[627] Eliminate the phrase "particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project" in 5.b. This is too narrowly focused IMHO. Add a goal
to solicit Supe/COM/Dean participation in the wp-forum on an ongoing basis,
as appropriate, to make the forum a better vehicle for Graduates in our
Purpose of "furthering the ideals" ... of USMA.
[628] what about grads outside of the Army?
[629] See item 14, above. You address the issue of communications;
but you need to emphasize getting the word to us as to what is going on
and getting the word to the authorities as to how we feel about it.
[630] Same as in #15. Work to make active, open networking a greater
part of graduates' lives.
[631] Delete 4. On 5. delete reference to Army Athletic Project.
Delete 7.
[632] Coordinate extensively with local societies and parents clubs
to ensure a common focus of efforts in support of the Academy.
[633] 1. Re-establish Army Football to National Preeminence; i.e.
Top 20 National Ranking and contender for National Title. Same for Basketball,
Hockey and Lacross.
[634] Most of these so-called goals are basic management considerations
that should be the purview of the AOG without any required input from the
membership. The #3 "goal" leaves me cold. Who died and left the AOG in
charge of "coordinating" these lofty principles? If the AOG is in charge
of improving communications between the USMA and the US Army, we're in
deep trouble. #4 doesn't discriminate between newly-commissioned graduates
and those who are looking toward retirement and employment in the civilian
sector.\ #6 scares me. WHY would the AOG like to become embroiled in the
USMA-AAA mess? As long as the AAA exists and USMA plays football, there
will be a double standard for football athletes and the rest of the Corps.
Scandals *will* continue to occur, and events have clearly proven that
even coaches of the stature of Red Blaik cannot stop the cheating. Why
should the AOG overtly condone and weigh in on this issue?
[635] Goal 7 is undoubtedly important to AOG employees, but it is
entirely different from the other listed goals.
[636] Complete reporting of funds raised and for what easier communications
with grads--which you are working on.
[637] Start an information network from the Commandant's office to
the AOG to the grads for opinion solicitation while the Com's office is
developing Academy policy. Atleast we get a voice.
[638] Separate the WPF from the AOG
[639] Goals 1 and 2 seem superfluous to me. They are stating what
ought to be self-evident truths. Goal 4: I don't know what the "AOG Assistance
Package" is, but should it not be available to graduates in other services?
[640] Somehow 'instill pride' is not a goal for AOG. Pride is there.
Probably this should just be dropped.
[641] Harvard-Yale-Princeton Clubs located in major metropolitan
areas provide posh meeting areas, dining, and in some cases lodging for
Ivy League graduates. Possibly AOG in conjunction with the other service
academy alumni organizations could establish posh club facilities in major
metropolitan areas. This would definitely instill pride in AOG membership.
Why does AOG need to provide assistance packages for graduates in the Army?
What services does AOG intend to provide? Please explain what a comprehensive
compensation/benefit program for AOG employees entails.
[642] Improve communications by Internet among graduates. Give more
accurate information on matters (eg Hallums, Graduate Commissioning, changes
in cadet activities, regulations) which affect USMA, rather than cause
this to be published in Wall Street Journal, and other publications, or
by individual graduates on the Internet.
[643] Item 4 should be higher and there should be a goal to improve
the lot of graduates as a subset.
[644] As an AOG member, I am unsure how your goals relate to me.
[645] How will you know when you reach a goal?
[646] Not enough information to determine if all the goals are valid.
They surely are not equal goals. Some of the stated goals should be secondary
administrative goals.
[647] Devellop an AOG assistance package for Academy Graduates at
all phases of their carrer with input an articles from other successful
transitioned graduates.
[648] - Increase the membership of graduates in local West Point
societies. Increase AOG support of local West Point socieities. Note: Change
"between" to "among" in #3 & #6.
[649] What about increasing support by new members. Many grads are
not members and do not support. Increase communication between all affected
parties.
[650] Goals 4&7 are the only ones AOG will know if they accomplished
them or not.The other goals can not be quantified or measured and therefore
are not really true goals. At the end of 1998 goals 1,2,3.5&6 can all
be judged "done" and it is just a judgement call. How does anyone accomplish
a"monitor","improve", or"assist" goal in a meaningful way?
[651] ADD a goal of working with the admissions office to provide
info and assistance to individual USMA graduates about how they, as individuals,
can assist with recruiting USMA candidates.
[652] Appears to be a bunch of nebulous words.
[653] See response to question 15.
[654] 3. Improve not only the communications, but the marketing of
USMA to the American public.
[655] work with USNA/USAFA graduate associations to further mutual
objectives
[656] No one really pays attention to these
[657] Work to further develop alumni networks for careers after serving
the Army.
[658] Goal #4 is too narrow. There are graduates who have left the
Army (or other Service) and entered the private sector, as well as those
who have retired from active duty and embarked upon a second career. The
AOG does too little to help/support them. It's a one way street -- donate/support
the AOG and its programs; where's the support for these people? I suspect
they number far more than the active duty graduates.
[659] See block 30
[660] While the athletic project is worthwhile, it is not the reason
for USMA and should NOT be our number one project. Let's do something for
all cadets--not just Corps Squad programs.
[661] These are primarily process goals, not outcome goals. The one
outcome goals has to do with support of the 2002 fundraising. I think the
goals should focus on what the efforts will mean for cadets at USMA and
their preparation for Army service.
[662] The goals lack a means to gauge the degree of accomplishment.
More specific goals are required for a establishing the actions necessary
to achieve the goals.
[663] Return the granting of RA commissions upon graduation.
[664] With the exception of the WPF. I don't know why but I have
always had a problem with fund raising by WP. WP is publicly funded because,
so far, this country has felt it serves a purpose. WP's public funding
is a measure of the value assigned by society and perhaps should be minimally
subsidized by private funding. Maybe WP should not want to be like other
"schools." Many writers have referred to WP as a "monastery" and the Spartan
image has some appeal.
[665] - Assist the membership in ways that encourages participation
and accomplishment of the goals above.
[666] Goal 7 concerning AOG employees is an internal goal, while
the first six concern the purpose of the AOG. Consider deleting or wording
it to make it less mercenary.
[667] I think some more focus/attention should be given to improving
career networking and development for graduates.
[668] pretty good goals but I think that I would order them differently.
#1, for instance, is pretty innocuous and doesn't do much being listed
first. #2 or #3 would be much stronger listed up front.
[669] Be more specific as to the methods AOG intends to follow to
achieve these goals. Vague goals are open to many broad and, often, conflicting
interpretations.
[670] Delete from 5 (b), "particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project".
[671] Only assistance to graduates in the army is mentioned what
about those in civilian jobs?
[672] Why so much focus on the AAA?
[673] AOG is in a unique position to help USMA define it's ideals,
establish it's goals and priorities and to develop an academic and military
curriculum suitable for developing our nations leaders. AOG needs to do
more in generating discussion and consolidating these points into the academies
decision making process.
[674] Do a beter job in facilitating class reunions and class cohession
building activities.
[675] Goal number 4 should be explained in better detail. What is
an AOG assistance packet for graduates in the Army?
[676] 1. Not just pride in AOG membership, but reasons for grads
to want to be a part of the AOG.
[677] I don't know why there is special focus on AAA. I believe that
atheletics are important for cadet development, but it is important to
develop all cadets - not just atheletic team memebers. Why not fund the
intramural program as well, providing equipment and other assistance?
[678] AOG could probably be of more benefit in recruiting than is
currently perceived
[679] The goal, "To instill pride etc.", considering what institution
you are the AOG for, is that really necessary to be listed as a goal. I
would think that all graduates would have a great deal of pride in both
where they went to school and what they accomplished for their nation.
Just a comment.
[680] Question: How many employees are there in AOG. Creating a "comprehensive
compensation/benefit package" could be quite costly? I don't want to see
the AOG become an end instead of a means. What are the salaries being paid
to the employees?
[681] AOG SHOULD NOT BE A WAY OF LIFE. WHEN IT BECOMES A BUSINESS,
YOU WILL LOSE SUPPORT.
[682] I'd like to see some AOG emphasis on improving the perception
of West Point within the Army and within the Nation. I'm tired of how often
the academy comes under fire in Congress -- who lobbies for West Point
(besides the Supt)? I'd like to see AOG devote resources to improving the
West Point image. i.e. I'd like AOG to transition some of its "internal"
focus (supporting USMA activities) to an "external" focus -- improving
the image of the academy to others.
[683] AOG assistance should not be limited to grads in the Army.
[684] Encourage the return of West Point to an all-male institute
and suggest that DA develop a separate and equivalent school for women
who would not (repeat "not") be graduated into the combat arms.
[685] These are OK but not really performance oriented - they look
and feel good, but what is really being accomplished and for whom - the
AOG exists to serve its members, not the AOG hierarchy
[686] Do not support a primary objective toward the athletic program
- emphasis to me should be on ethics, academics and leadership. (I know
some will argue that athletics will be a subset of leadership but I do
not believe it should be emphsized.)
[687] Diversify AOG Leadership (Age, Race, etc.) Resulting in a mix
of AOG Hierarchy consistent with the Graduate Population
[688] Goal 1 - instill pride; a waste of time. Grads that belong
to AOG have pride in USMA and AOG. If they don't have it now, they never
will, and AOG can't "instill" it. A small number. Don't waste time and
energy on them.
[689] those goals are fine for guiding the management of the association
administration, but they speak more to strengthening the ties to AOG, rather
than furthering the ideals of the academy and promoting the welfare of
the academy
[690] Not sure how these goals relate to the purpose of furthering
the ideals and promoting the welfare of West Point. Is the support of the
WPF supposed to answer the welfare question -- if so, why the focus on
athletics? Not sure at all how a compensation package for AOG supports
the ideals of West Point.
[691] Other Goals: Should be something about assisting graduates
with career changes/transition both from the Army and from civilian careers
[692] Your lists seems to be very vague on issues reaching into the
future. Suggest you drill a bit more to get better clarity and specificity.
[693] Include a proactive statement regarding how AOG is going to
communicate with and influence Executive and Legislative elements.
[694] Support Cadet activities Support USMA in financial soundness
and in potentially political process?
[695] Investigate ways to ensure the continuation of USMA in the
face of military cutbacks.
[696] Lobby for more construction and repair dollars from Congress.
[697] It is interesting that few of the goals identified support
the "Purpose" just identified. I would think that the AOG would want to
increase membership, develop new programs to support purpose, better serve
graduates. Also suggest goals be measurable in some concrete way: raise
$10M for the 2002 campaign, or the like.
[698] The AOC should have a broader range of goals if in fact we
believe in the mission above. Additionally, the goals should be measurable
with a definitive time set for achievement (stuff we learned a long time
ago....) It appears to me that Cohen (and his successors) and Congress
will have greater impact on both constituencies as time passes. Once we
better define our goals, should we work with the constituency leadership
to work out roles and responsibilities (OP Plan). Something to consider:
Can we lobby? Should we? As a group, remember we compete for leadership
talent with other top-flight universities. We have to remember we are a
much smaller force than a Michigan, which graduates as many people in one
year as we have living grads (34,000). Additionally, with many of our grads
in the Army, they are not in a position to make a significant financial
contribution. (Read, we cannot fund West Point the way other universities
use their alumni; we have to rely on continued strong governmnetal support.)
Bottom line, I see the AOG as the leadership that must maintain the OP
Plan to serve our constituencies wisely; we cannot overpower our competitors.
[699] Develop assistance programs for graduates outside the Army
[700] These goals seem to fall into three categories: 1--Too narrow/irrelevant
to most members (i.e. the employee compensation plan) 2--Pure fluff (i.e.
instilling pride) 3--Minor steps toward achieving the stated purpose If
the Academy is to retain its reputation (and existence), the AOG needs
to wade into the fray in some substantive manner to further the ideals
that the purpose statement mentions. The stated goals just don't move me.
[701] Promote the unity/cohesion of the Long Grey Line
[702] Numbers 2 and 7 do not seem to support AOG's purpose statement.
While these may be things AOG needs to do internally to survive, I don't
believe they belong in the overall Management Goals.
[703] Could not connect to URL using the hyperlink.
[704] What are the targets/quantifiable results? How measured and
what is the end result?
[705] Add: 1. "Reduce overhead costs and pass through 98% of gifts
and grants to the end user at USMA." 2. "Focus the Association of Graduates
on furthering the goals of the academy through emphasizing the contributions
of graduates (especially those in uniform) to this country. Networking
and civilian employment (while important) should be subordinated to encouraging
graduates to commit to selfless service in the army."
[706] Not qualified to answer.
[707] Include a measurable objective where possible.
[708] Your main objectives seem to be to raise money and help grads
who are getting out of the Army. Better to concentrate on toughening up
entry requirements, academic and physical standards, and emphasizing a
commitment to a full career in the Army.
[709] There should be some specific goals that support your vision,
ie. how do you plan to further the ideals and welfare of USMA this year?
Maybe some fund raising goals, specific program awareness levels, specific
level of graduate responses, etc.
[710] I like the goals you have, but I think you should either add
a goal or modify #3 to specifically address communication through electronic
means such as e-mail and the internet.
[711] Goals cover what I am interested in, however, I do wonder why
in 5b there is particular emphasis on the Army Athletic Project. Am I supposed
to know what that is? Has it been discussed in an Assembly article?
[712] Numbers one and two are awfully "fluffy." Just do them without
further talk.
[713] The wording for goal #1 is a bit interesting. I am not sure
it is necessary to "instill" pride in any graduate. If the goal is to develop
confidence and trust in the AOG organization, that is one thing. The "pride"
was instilled by USMA, and does not necessarily source from being a member
of AOG. Just a thought.
[714] as stated previous question
[715] Of the seven goals, none are specificall focused on the purpose
statement listed above. The first four and most of the rest are aimed at
enhancing the AOG itself. What are the goals to achieve the purpose statement???
[716] What do these goals have to do with the AOG's stated purpose?
[717] A. Goals 1, 2, 3, 7 are OK. B. Goal 4: meaning is unclear.
C. Goal 5(b): Why "particularly AAP"? Reason is unclear. D. Goal 6: Need
for this Goal is unclear. NOTE: If AOG published a set of OBJECTIVES under
each Goal, then the reason & meaning for each may become clearer.
[718] We are not doing anything for the Academy, only ourselves.
We need to do more for the cadets.
[719] Of the goals listed, I think the one that is most needed is
to ensure that the American public remains linked to the Army and the entire
U.S. military establishment. This doesn't necessarily mean bigger military
budgets but spending smarter.
[720] facilitating and communicating the need for recruiting those
cadet candidates committed to selfless leadership and service
[721] Add 1)To become an effective voice in influencing the future
direction of the Academy, its programs, and its organization and procedures.
Explain 1)Rationale for proposed goals and measurables to be achieved.
[722] although listed last I am leery of the "benefits" part for
AOG "employees." Is this the office workers or the management types? How
much of my contributed $$ would go to paying the salary and benefits of
my old classmates and fellow alumni who are now working for AOG. What is
their salary--what are those benefits?? As an Army officer I do not make
a lot of money so I am sensitive to exactly where my small contributions
would go. My salary is a matter of public record. If you're going to ask
for my money than I want to know what are the salaries of the management
folks at AOG, and how much of my contribution (in terms of %) would go
towards paying those salaries. I have to tell you I would be reluctant,
IN THE EXTREME, to contribute money to AOG if I found out that a sizable
portion of my contribution would be going towards salary, and that the
salaries of the folks up there were greater than mine as a regular "due
course" kind of joe working out in the field.
[723] Delete #1.
[724] See the points above in the purpose section. In general, I
think the AOG should be more involved in helping educate the nation, and
Congress, about why it needs an academy.
[725] Reword #4. Unclear about "in the Army." Why does an AOG memb
need an assistance package? What is an assistance pkg? Info about AOG?
Info about retirement? Food stamps? You have "improve" a lot of processes
(commo, coord) but little of substance to me as a member (other than the
asst pkg). How about "improving our services to the membership"?
[726] See my comments below.
[727] Really need to focus on increasing support from graduates of
the AOG. As a major academic high visibility institution, I am told we
don't get a lot of support from our graduates (in comparison to comparable
Ivy league schools). Probably need to start educating the cadets earlier
about AOG and not after they graduate.
[728] I dont know what 4 means. In what way does the AOG intend to
assist Active Army grads to do what? 3 is too broad and fuzzy to be useful,
and enhancing communication between the Army and the public is clearly
out of AOG scope. If the intent is to be an effective advocate for the
historic ideals and the current and future welfare of USMA in all legitimate
forums (Army, Defense, Congress, press, public perception, etc.) then state
that clearly. 1 is suspect and likely to lead to misguided expenditures
of money that should be spent on legitimate goals. It is the continued
excellence of USMA that instills pride in AOG members; AOG should be a
voice (informal, perhaps, but hopefully respected) for continued high standards
in all the academy's endeavors, and should be a steadying sail in political
turbulence. There is a disturbing element of faddism in these goals taken
as a whole. I would hope that the AOG will give thought to goals more directly
focused on the purpose articulated earlier.
[729] Too general and "politically correct."
[730] See above.
[731] Too much focus on itself.
[732] stress number 6, and let number 5 bse incorporated into one
of the other.
[733] include more on needs of all grads
[734] I don't like to se the Supe out in public asking for financial
support. His only request should be made to the DoD. AOG should be the
fund raiser appealing to grads et al, not the Supe
[735] Actually they're pretty good, but in a list order tends to
be seen as priority. Therefore, you should move item 3 up to the top and
4 to just below it. Further, perhaps you could add: "Develop an AOG assistance
package for graduates LEAVING the Army"
[736] If you wish to accomplish #s 1, 2, and 3 I recommend you adopt
some specific, tangible, hard goals for the next few years, not this vague,
soft, generic "fluff" that you might see on an old OER support form! Why
not make the RA commission issue a goal for the next few years? If all
that the Chairman said in the Assembly is true, then a long-range campaign
to have Congress re-evaluate the issue would be a specific goal that would
address the AOG members concerns. I'm sure there are other measurable and
meaningful goals that the AOG is receiving graduate feedback on that could
be added to this list.
[737] If you focus on all the others you'll not need to worry about
#2,it will take care of itself. Recommend deletion of #2 ,and focus resources
on doing other tasks.
[738] Support critical research projects in engineering departments
(solid engineering departments make USMA very competitive with other institutions
of learning)
[739] 1. What benefits do AOG employees now? 2. What are thye considered
civilians or are they government employees?
[740] AOG should be very much concerned with the ways that graduates
interact with public institutions to the credit of the Academy and greater
fulfillment of the graduates.
[741] Why is #4 limited to graduates in the Army? Why not just assistance
to graduates?
[742] The first goal is silly.
[743] (see above list in Purpose)
[744] unable to retrieve goals
[745] delete: last one--should be understood management goal add:
Develop a strong program to generate new members, retain current members,
and reacquire previous members.
[746] See above.
[747] ESTABLISH WINNING ATHLETIC PROGRAMS
[748] Genreally, these are on track; do suggest refining the wording
and extent; maybe the leadership would want to establish phases, milestanes,
periodic change, etc
[749] Several of the goals were self (AOG) serving and not related
to "The Association shall be dedicated to furthering the ideals and promoting
the welfare of USMA " Desire specific goals on furthering the ideals of
USMA.
[750] There are still a few of us around who served in the Air Force.
We are loyal graduates, but that loyalty is tested when we are made to
feel outsiders. Your goals need some refining if you don't want to create
that impression
[751] Don't know -- server would not respond.
[752] Emphasize community relations between public and USMA. Goal
#3 wrt community relations, trying to get the best students and leaders
(and athletes) to attend USMA
[753] Reduce the management overhead of the AOG and WPF, realizing
that this may be inconsistent with increasing AOG employee benefits, this
should take precedence. At 10% overhead, we are too fat!!
[754] Delete the AOG benefits package. Most of AOG employees are
retured military
[755] First 3 goals (pride, trust, confidence, improved communications)
are on the mark. #4, Assistance Package, needs definition before I can
vote. #5, West Point Fund, needs to be high on the list altho I don't know
what the "Army Athletic Project" means. #6, coordination between... sounds
like an elaboration of #3, improved communication. While I don't dispute
the importance of #7, benefits package for AOG employees, in my mind that
should be and unstated requirement to attract talanted folks but not elevated
the status of an Association Goal.
[756] consider ways to help graduates, not just USMA, or the current
administrations goals, or the football team.
[757] under #4 add, "and to graduates entering or having entered
civilian life".
[758] Need to do a better job informing AOG members what the Army
will fund through Appropriated Funds, and why it is important that we contribute
to AOG for other requirements.
[759] Create a "Transitioning to Civilian Life?" packet for those
officers being asked to leave the service. This should include "meat" behind
the packet, i.e. names of graduates who would be willing to help transition
(counsel, advise, hire!) these fine young men.
[760] I'm probably in the minority, but raising money for a federally
funded school seems wrong to me. I give about 10% of my gross income away
every year (and I'm still in the Army, so I'm definitely not a rich guy
who can throw away extra money). But I have a hard time with the idea of
either: 1. Giving even more of my money to a place that shouldn't need
donations, or 2. Staying at 10% and taking from what I consider more worthy
charities to give to a place that shouldn't need donations (robbing from
Peter to pay Sylvanus).
[761] As a serving senior officer, I can't emphasize the importance
of Goal #4 in encouraging our young, junior graduates to remain in the
service. Too many recent graduates view AOG and links to USMA an exclusive
civilian job connection. AOG needs to do a better job at finding ways to
support and encourage younger grads to remain on active duty following
their service obligation. This starts with guys like me working hard to
coach and mentor young officers on the importance and rewards of continued
active duty service.
[762] The improved communications process should accomplish some
end. How are you going to know if you achieved the goal.
[763] I guess I would like to see some detail -- like how will the
AOG increase pride, improve communications, etc.
[764] Please see answer to #15. I think the AOG should better reflect
the opinions of the graduates as to Academy policy.
[765] Again, communicate the further need for a Military Academy.
Continue to improve the AOG assistance package for graduates leaving the
military or who are already in the civilian sector (e.g. job assistance)
[766] 1. Become more representative of the views of the graduates
rather than those of the Academy leadership. 2. Develop a lobbying effort
with Congress on behalf of the Academy.
[767] I'm frankly not all that keyed to AOG itself... I enjoy the
Assembly, and the basic things that I assume AOG does to help USMA classes
keep ties with classmates and with the Academy itself. I have felt it should
be in the "background" and somewhat invisible .... now for major fundraising,
I would expect the AOG to be much more active in that arena .... don't
know if this helps, but thought I would simply give you the input.
[768] I would like to see an added goal of raising awareness (since
the recent communications in the "Assembly" suggest no hope for restoring
Regular Army commissions for Cadets) among the American public of the injustice
in not awarding deserving cadets (be they USMA or ROTC) a Regular Army
commission.
[769] Educate the Congress about U.S.M.A. and its contributions and
needs.
[770] Goal #3 is critical because in the past, the various arms of
the AOG (Fund raising, class support etc) have not known what each other
was doing and have not leveraged their combined resources. Goal#4 I need
clarity on what this means
[771] I don't think the primary focus should be toward a rapport
with the graduates and the AOG. You guys should be part of us. I may be
naive but I would trust any of my classmates with the matters that you
deal in. I have trusted them with my life at times... I think the goals
should be more objective related and speak to specific numbers or qualitative
ideas.
[772] See note in #15 above. Other Service organizations such as
TROA and ROA do perform this function very well. If there is a legal reason
that the AOG cannot act as a lobby, some other way must be found.
[773] Ref goal #1: The major goal should be to instill pride in alma
mater vice AOG membership.
[774] Others are okay, but goal one is useless. I don't need someone
to help me develop pride in AOG.
[775] Community Service for all USMA students and AOG
[776] tabulate & distribute a detailed report on how funds in
the WPF are used
[777] Execute on a bi-annual basis a Class feedback to determine
class desires for leadership or reelection issues.
[778] Why are needs of graduates (civil) not addressed? The AOG should
state plainly that they exist to assist graduates and their goals should
reflect such.
[779] Does not mention support to current cadet or recruiting efforts
[780] Yes and no. I would like to see AOG place more emphasis on
our athletic and academic programs as these are the most talked about items
and largest single visibility point for our institution.
[781] Expand on the assistance package for AOG graduates. What exactly
is meant by this? This package should help graduates understand the true
dynamics of everyday life in the Army. (The personnel system, the OER,
assignments etc.)
[782] I tried 3 times to get the goals on the screen and had to start
the survey over each time because my computer wouldn't bring them up.
[783] As part of the communication goals should include a focus on
electronic (Internet) methods. Specifically a dynamite homepage and network
that the public can see to learn about West Point and a union and/or links
between all of the organizations you mention in the goals.
[784] Be careful not to become too focused on Army Athletics. Let
us consider the many other aspects cadet life/development.
[785] I believe AOG should also develop programs to better assist
graduate who are no longer in the Army. We are working to be leader in
our communities and professions; consequently, AOG should recognize and
assist those efforts.
[786] Coordinate #3 and #6 with regard to continuation, communication/coordination
Re #4 - Define Assistance Package Re #5 - More focus here - ROI must be
enhanced to gain support Re #7 - Where's the focus here? AOG membership
of staff?
[787] Not only promote pride in memebership, but promote memebership.
Determine what Grads want or need (like through this survey) and find ways
to involve them. I think many of us do not mind helping the academy and
grads out, but many times it becomes too complicated or costly (in time
and money).. I was a memeber of the Rhode Island Society a few years ago
and found it easy to help out and to partake in activities. I have not
found the same to be true here in Florida. I have three small childern.
I can not afford expensive Founder's Day diner, afford the time to drive
an hour to a event. or afford contributions to the United Way, chruch,
the AOG, and everyone else. I hear most from the AOG regarding me providing
money to the academy. At this time the AOG is just another not-for-profit
charitable organization asking for money serveral times per year.
[788] Take a stronger position and play a more active (effective)
role in: 1. Provide education, guidance and leadership to AOG membership
in contacting members of congress to influence their positions/votes on
military/army/academy related legilation; 2. influencing DoD to restore
or provide the benefits and services promised in the past to active duty
personnel for their retirementt, yet now not provided. (e.g., a) TARGETING
MEMBERS OF CONGRESS FOR CONSTITUIENT LETTER WRITING CAMPAIGNS, b) better
notifying AOG members of pending legislation, c) tutoring in how constituents
can best influence congressional actions)
[789] 1 and 2 wiil follow if rest accomplished
[790] USMA and consequently the AOG must become more relevant to
the Army
[791] I think they are on the money. I particularly like the first
goal of instilling pride in the AOG. If the graduates feel prideful of
the Academy they are more likely to contribute time and money to the various
programs the AOG sponsors. I also believe this to be especially true with
younger grads. It seems as if a grad's pride increases the longer he/she
has been out of the Academy. Why that is I'm not sure. And I think communication
with graduates is important. Making use of the internet and all the information
age technologies will definitely enhance and improve this communication.
[792] In general, it is my view that the AOG should see its role
as one that extends beyond that of a traditional graduates association
to the core values of the officer corps. While this may create a roles
problem with the DA staff and'or others, I feel that West Point and its
graduates should see themselves as representatives of the highest principles
of military professionalism and service to country. West Point is not,
has never been and should never be, viewed as simply another great educational
institution.
[793] I'm becoming much more interested in career transition assistance.
The Atlanta Society does an excellent job. CAN AOG PUT the Service Academy
Business Resource Directory on-line and update it more frequently than
annually?
[794] Yes, they are fine. The priority of the AOG should be to recruit
new members, and ACTIVELY lobby for the preservation of those values cherished
by former graduates and desperately needed by future ones. As a graduate,
I strongly feel that West Point is too caught up in the "touchy-Feely"
1990s, and that we have forgotten that our purpose is to create a professional
officer corps to serve our nation, both in the active army and outside
of it. You can serve in many ways, and the civilian world needs good soldiers
too.
[795] Improve feedback to all stakeholders on suggestions and questions.
[796] The purpose statement of AOG includes "...furthering the ideals..."
of the Academy. The goals do little of that. I would like AOG to take a
broad view of that phrase and consider taking an active role in helping
USMA graduates and USMA as an institution deal with extending the concepts
of honesty and goal acheivement into the youth sector of our society. This
is the basic thrust of Colin Powell's effort. We could as an example, take
some leadership role in advocacy of a healthy life style, including the
spectrum of physical fitness activity. The goal for AOG would be to improve
USMA's contribution to our society by seeking meaningful participation
in programs which contribute to the fiber of the nation's youth. Said another
way, I think that for such a capable group as USMA grads, it is a mockery
to spend our money and time on such items as class gifts and second-guessing
the latest Supe's decisions when there is so much that needs to be done
in our country to survive.
[797] Work to restore regular commissions - Add
[798] Need Metrics for these goals. Goal seven appears self serving
and makes additional fund raising plans appear questionable.
[799] I do not see any involvement of the AOG with the administration
of USMA. It appears the goals only focus on the alumni for alumni purposes.
I do not know if the charter of the AOG allows for being a vehicle for
the "DOGs" to provide serious input into the administration, or if it is
even desirable ("back when I was a plebe.."). It is good that the welfare
of the AOG staff is being considered a goal of the organization.
[800] Represent old grad views to current USMA leadership.
[801] Did not work--could not open.
[802] change the goal for assistance packages to simply "graduates."
not "graduates in the Army."
[803] Which of the stated goals covers the concept of mentoring,
networking, etc, not only in the Army but also in civilian life? Other
big-name, prestigious institutions (graduates) make no bones about helping/favoring
their brother/sister alumni. I think we can be more aggressive here.
[804] These goals are focused on AOG instead of the USMA. They should
be completely rewritten, to focus on strengthening public and political
support for USMA.
[805] GOAL THAT ADDRESSES HELPING DEFINE THE ROLE OF ACADEMY IN BETTERMENT
OF THE CULTURE AND ECONOMY AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF US (DOMESTIC AND FOREIGN
POLICY) AS WELL AS IT'S ROLE IN THE INTERNALTIONAL/GLOBAL COMMUNITY, OVER
THE NEXT20 YEARS. EXPAND AND STRETCH THE FOCUS AS THE FREE WORLD EXPANDS.
[806] see # 16
[807] Better football recruiting
[808] Insilling pride should not be the first goal. Promoting the
interest of USMA and its AOG members should be a more primary goal.
[809] What about improve and support the Academy financially where
funding come short?
[810] #3: Why would the AOG be concerned with the American public?
Isn't that for the Army to do? #5: Too much emphasis on fund raising. Instead
of gifts, we now have "expected $$ support." [Have more, but GOALS WINDOW
won't reopen.]
[811] ?
[812] There is no way to measure progress on these goals. Take action
to improve the former high standards of the academy. Take actions to solicit
top candidates who want to become professional soldiers
[813] Delete: Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in
the Army
[814] Delete #'s 1 & 4
[815] Again, I'd like to see more focus on projecting AOG activities
outside the organization. The present goals, with the exception of perhaps
one or two, are strictly internally oriented. I would eliminate number
1-- we should not have to promote pride of membership as fellow graduates.
If this is an issue, it goes well beyond the AOG! I suspect that the the
association could spend its time better elsewhere.
[816] Recruiting Fund Raising Career Opportunities Career Mentoring
all might be mentioned more specifically
[817] Goals would not display thus no comment
[818] Not sure what is intended by goals 1 & 2, i.e. the "pride,
trust and confidence" goals. Seems to imply there is some type of problem
there. I'm not aware of what problems are being addressed there. May want
to be more specific. West Point Org is doing much to assist in the communications
area. Allows grads to stay much better informed without having to rely
on a quarterly publication that is dated when received.
[819] Nothing addresses promoting USMA to new cadet candidates. What
is done to support admissions.
[820] I would ask that you be cautious about getting the AOG entangled
in the fund raising issues that seem to be getting contentious.
[821] These goals are good, but may be short on metrics - units of
measurement to determine success.
[822] I disagree with the strong focus on athletics. The AAA should
be more than capable of advancing those issues without too much help from
AOG. I would like to see greater emphasis on expansion of clubs and academic
related extracurricular activities.
[823] Ensure USMA military programs and facilities are adequately
funded and supported
[824] Clicked on the goals and they did not appear; your server might
not be working well..
[825] DELETE GOAL #5. The AOG is devoting too much of its efforts
to fund raising. For example, there are goals to fund structures that should
be taken care of by appropriated funds.
[826] Add: Provide a support means for those USMA grads in business
to help with more extensive networking/job search needs. This should not
be limited to sections, but throughout all sections/classes. EX: The extensive
& strong network/means of BONDING established by Texas A&M grads
- a VERY strong association noted, which is not left to an outside resource.
[827] Disagree that fund work should be specifically for the Athletic
Project, think it should be for USMA at large
[828] Explore the genesis and the realities of the possible gap that
has developed between the retired Army AOG members and the AOG members
who did not remain on active duty beyond their minimal period of service.
[829] There is too much emphasis on athletics by the AOG. I find
it very unsettling that the lion's share of construction money budgeted
to the Academy is going for a new gymnasium, while graduates are being
asked to contribute to what I consider more pressing needs. For that reason,
I cannot support the AOG's entire fund raising program.
[830] I like it that you are trying to develop a stronger bond between
AOG and members...most correspondence I get from AOG are requests for money
or offers of services. AOG is becoming more like a telemarketer than an
association of grads.
[831] Can you quantify some of these? Why is the AOG so committed
to athletics? Don't lose focus on the "Student" of "student athlete".
[832] Delete AAA and Athletic Project(is that another word for Sky
box?)Were never going to be Nebraska,at least I hope not,so let's try to
keep our perspective;beating Ivy League teams is about where I think we
should be.So what if there's no big clamor to sit in the Supe's box with
the ceo of Textron et al.We should concentrate on being America's team,not
Corporate America's team!
[833] Keeing abreast of, and informing graduates of issues that are
relevant to the survival and future relevance of USMA, and the USMA educational
experience.
[834] Actively participate in trying to re-establish Regular Army
Commision upon graduation. Attempt to influence the academy to return to
more emphasis on the military
[835] I believe that the AOG should also strive to represent the
concerns of West Point Graduates to members of Congress and the President.
[836] Build comraderie across USMA classes not just within classes.
Make networking as easy as possible. Open up the AOG governance process
to new people and ideas. Make members feel welcome when they visit West
Point.
[837] You cite only graduates in the Army; West Point graduates are
in other services, especially Air Force - suggest change the goal wording
so its clear all graduates are included, not just those in the Army.
[838] 1. Keep the grads informed on legislation that may affect the
academy. Also the legislators that are pro-USMA and those that are not.
[839] Make the facilities more accessible to Alumni during reunions.
[840] support the needs of graduates that are directly related to
USMA.
[841] Delete Goal 5(b).
[842] Worthy goals but not MY goals. Initiate discussion on combat
arms and assignments. Initiate discussion on women at West Point. Lead
the charge on restoring RA commissions.
[843] I like these goals, with the exception that the first two seem
fairly useless.
[844] I'm not sure if this jeopardizes AOG's tax status, but I don't
believe West Point is being effectively marketed to key constituencies
(ie Congress, the electorate, etc.). AOG could be more of a grass roots
marketing machine for West Point.
[845] Goals seem unimportant and irrevelant to the purpose of creating
leaders for a Nation.
[846] I'd rather comment on the goals presented: #3 is good and should
be emphasized #5 is innapropriate The rest don't mean much
[847] TAKE APPRO ACTIONS TO ESTABLISH EFFCTIVE COORD W/DA/ DOD to
promote the mission (s) of USMA within and w/o the ARMY. We need funding
and active support in the total Army and the USA.
[848] They sound like "feel good" goals. Personally, I don't have
pride in being an AOG member, I have pride in being a West Point graduate!
Being associated with that tradition is what the AOG should be fostering
and promoting.
[849] Unable to download GOALS I am not sure if I would change somthing
I do not fully understand
[850] Again, I believe that AOG must make a greater effort to promoting
the welfare of its graduates for the reasons mentioned above.
[851] I feel that membership should be limited to graduates. Major
efforts should be made to ensure financial parity among the academies,
then use fund raising to suppliment proven needs not elligible for federal
funding.
[852] I would like to see the AOG support efforts to improve the
health benefits of retired graduates. We were promised free health care
for me and my wife for life. Currently it is costing me $2,500 per year
and medicare doesn't allow many test and procedures.
[853] Could not get display.
[854] Have not given it sufficient thought. Nothing wrong with these
probably....but simply not enough time to give this the attention it deserves.
[855] All are adequate and the list comprehensive
[856] I am not for the AOG taking over funding which should be the
province of the U.S. Army or govt funding.
[857] No Comment - not enough information on which to make an informed
response.
[858] very ambitious - if accomplish all that, I certainly will be
better informed and feel more closely connected than in the past
[859] I don't understand the intent/need for #4
[860] (First)1. Continue strengthening the process for advocating
improvements in West Point ideals, methods, and establishment.
[861] Much emphasis is on athletics which is ok but don't forget
that the bulk of cadets are not intercollegiate atheletes. We need to also
build the academic and character part of the equationb also.
[862] Add: Support efforts to motivate USMA grads to complete a full
career in a military service. Delete: 4 Do not believe AOG should facilitate
or support civilian job searches for serving graduates
[863] Stop the Academy from its drift to becoming more and more like
a civilian university with a neat ROTC program.
[864] Re goals 5 & 6: USMA is more than athletics and the AAA.
The AOG ought to give more recognition that has been its wont to donors
that support the Library, the dean, and extracurricular activites other
than athletics.
[865] More specific career and job help for graduates
[866] Promote greater linkage between graduates through the internet.
[867] have not thought much about this subject
[868] To act as an impetus to USMA administration to maintain the
ideals and standards of the Corps and the Academy; To provide support for
recruiting and admission of motivated candidates, regardless of athletic
skill, test scores, or race; to assist graduates in their career development,
both civilian and military; to be the conscience of the Academy in an increasingly
hostile environment.
[869] delete fundraising
[870] Don't understand why "Instill pride in the membership" is the
numbe one goal. Is there a problem? If everything else is done, that will
take care of itself. Sometimes it seems that AOG has lost its focus and
has become just a fund-raising machine. Goals appear to reflect that impression.
Particularly like the cooperation with AAA goal.
[871] Enhance the image of the USMA on a national basis with the
intention of improving the general public's knowledge of the important
role played by the Academy
[872] I am struggling to provide more solid feedback, but I none
of the goals really resonate with me. I read them all and said to myself
"yeah, I guess they are fine" I wish I would have come away with something
more concrete, relevent and inspiring.
[873] 1. You have the instill pride, but should also include develop
ways to increase membership. The problem probably is not with the current
members, but those who are not members yet. Develop a way to get them on
line and in the game. 4. It appears if it is focused for officers transitioning
from the Army. Make 2 packages one for those getting out, and one for those
staying in. On the one for those staying in give a # to call for advice
career progression kind of like a hard to get branch manager should be
doing. Example - Light versus heavy, div vs nondiv, the goods and bad of
each, where the path will take you, the benefits of each primary staff
job what you want and don't want for each branch... All that would be part
of the packet for those staying in. They provide the focus of the long
term what they want and you provide the specifics o how to get there. Realize
this is down to the nitty gritty almost on details, but provide a packet
for each type of grad in or out. Increase pride by being the place to go
for all grads.
[874] Goals should be more specific with measurements
[875] Need specifiv goals in furtherance of purpose statement which
is OK as broad guidance but NOT the measureable, time limited specific
goals.
[876] Generally too self-serving to AOG staff and West Point facility
[877] Work with USMA classes to repeal the policy on RA commissions
for USMA graduates
[878] Would like to see a goal added that focuses on getting members
more involved in the Academy, activities, etc - Somthing that is specifically
focused.
[879] Work for the reinstatement of RA commissions upon graduation.
Establish a public information campaign to engender public regard for USMA
[880] Add: 1. Publish an updated edition of the Service Academy Business
Resource Directory. 2. Produce a support package available to all USMA
graduates to assist in the transition from active duty army life to civilian
status and aid in a job search effort.
[881] Eliminate reference to the AAA and Army athletics; the goals
should be oriented towards the graduates and let the USMA worry about athletics
[882] -no opinion
[883] My (new) browser (Explorer 4) isn't linking to the goals. I
assume goals are fine.
[884] I think it important to add a very emphatic goal to develop
greater understanding of the value of USMA to the general public and to
engender support from a population consisting of fewer and fewer people
with service experience.
[885] Could not anser as I could not get new window
[886] Provide comprehensive support to graduates and former cadets
to enable them to provide a lifetime of meaningful support to our nation
[887] 1. I do not think a goal should be building confidence in the
AOG leadership; if the leadership fulfills the goals of the organization,
the confidence of the members will follow. Improving communications between
the leadership and the members is probably more appropriate. 2. Why focus
on members on Active Duty? Why not reservists? Why not those in civil life
who serve our country in other ways? Having said that, when I was on active
duty, I never felt being a USMA grad was a help; rather it was more of
a liability, because I saw both with myself and other grads that we were
selected for the thankless challenging jobs because of our sense of duty
and education.
[888] Provide a mechanism to assist grads with job searches, insurance
needs of various kinds, financial opportunities, business networking, seminars
and various other tools to help the grad improve his or her status in life.
All of this can be connected to WP's well being as to benefit the grads
is also to benefit WP.
[889] I currently am gathering comments from key members of my class
in response to the Chairman's request. Any answer here would be premature.
[890] Where are the goals that support graduates?????????
[891] Goal # 2 is a good goal but it can only be achieved when the
AOG reveals to its membership all that the AOG is involved with. Secrets
should not be kept within the AOG management. Trustees should not be nominated
and elected behind closed doors. Get rid of the "Good old boys" club and
open up the process to all members of the association. The same people
serve as trustees over and over and over. The board needs new blood with
new ideas. Be honest with the membership - if the AOG is involved with
litigation, the membership should know about it. If the AOG has misused
donor funds, let the members know. Be above board, even if it may hurt
the AOG image. Honestly with the membership will create trust, not secrecy.
[892] Many of these seven management goals are too general to convey
what the AOG management aspires to accomplish during 1997-99.
[893] 1. There appears to be a very real political/congressional
threat to the survival of the military academies as institutions. Even
if the threat is specious defending the academies' existence seems to occupy
an inordinate amount of effort and resources. Should the AOG, in a more
coordinated way, exert the political influence of its members regarding
issues of concern to the institutions? 2.This is an association of graduates.
Seems a dimension of the mission should be to further the interests of
the graduates. We seem to amply cover the furtherance of the interests
of the AOG as an organization and the academy as an institution. Goal 4
only tangentially refers to AOG doing anything for members. I am not demeaning
current member services (trips, credit cards, gifts, communications, etc.)
3. Should AOG actively search foor and promote ways to increase retention
of its graduates in military service?
[894] Please consider adding: "Actively solicit support for the AOG
from graduates and former cadets of USMA..."
[895] Monetary and society support of cadet club activites (not just
AAA)
[896] Goals commensurate with improving graduate relationships and
communications
[897] Include support for graduates in civilian life
[898] 1. I would like AOG to work with all staff and faculty. Staff
and faculty (civ or military) who should be brought into AOG. 2. The compensation
package is a minor goal that should not part of the managment goals. It
is an admin task that needs to be accomplished but to list it as a major
goal gives the appearance that AOG is similar to the CEO bureucrates who
are rewarding themselves with huge compensation packages without performance.
[899] Never could get the "Goals" list to show up.
[900] Never could get the "Goals" list to show up.
[901] These goals seem to support the AOG staff more than the members
and the academy
[902] Browser (internet explorer 4.01) would not display the goals...
[903] I am glad there was a reference to meeting the needs of graduates.
[904] These goals seem self-serving. It makes AOG sound like just
any collages alumni association.
[905] How do you measure 1 and 2?
[906] Uphold the ideals of AOG members and former graduates through
constant communication with grads, Academy administration and Congress.
[907] Put some "management style" teeth in these goals: examples:
1) increase membership to ____% 2) increase WPF to ____%
[908] Work to repeal the odious law denying regular commissions to
graduates. Also show some independence from the DA and USMA party line.
[909] Focus more effort on communicating with our nations political
leadership to bolster the security and prosperity of the academy
[910] I don't care about the AOG, per se. The AOG should exist to
help graduates, USMA, and help attract continually better young men and
women to attend West Point. All other goals are administrative in nature
and should be subservient to the above.
[911] AOG should primarily be oriented toward graduates in general
and not be diverted to athletic support,which is the proper role of the
AAA and local societies.
[912] These are fairly broad and not very specific--which(specificity)is
the benefit of goals--they must be measurable-and frankly I do not believe
these are unless you count a yes or no as measuring.If this were my organizations
goals I would give myself a D but more likely an F. Also, see my earlier
comments re: the AOG
[913] Please see my concerns at response 15, and see if you can work
these into the goals. Please do not assume that truth, morality and honesty
is a "given." It is not. As a good example, a West Point graduate accepted
the appointment as drug czar from a man whose white house aides "dissed"
him when he was in uniform at the white house. Forgive and forget is OK
in personal relations, when the transgressor makes a mistake, or begs forgiveness.
In this case, for a West Point graduate to take such an assignment from
a man not known for honor or truthfulness is a major disappointment for
me, and perhaps for some others as well.
[914] Strengthen the opportunities for academic excellence with world
class libraries,laboratories and outside prominent lectures. Too much on
sports today.
[915] 1. Develop greater communication between AOG and the local
WP Societies. 2. Continue to provide networking resources for Graduates
leaving active service.
[916] In addition to goal No. 4, actively assist members who have
retired or separated from the service by providing an assistance package
(e.g., list of Societies and points of contact; maintain database of graduates
willing to act as mentors, networking points of contact, industry specialists,
etc.; organize job fairs).
[917] Continue support of career transition assistance (army to civilian
world). The drawdown continues in spite of what we hear from our senior
army leadership.
[918] 1. AOG should be more active in ensuring that the congress
and the executive branch continue funding and supporting USMA. With the
not so slow deteriation of our Active Army funding and hence readiness,
we can assume that USMA will eventually be caught up in this trend. AOG
needs to ensure our graduates become vocal to their representatives.
[919] a. Greatly improve AOG communications with class organizations,
particularly the 5 year reunion classes. b. Assist Reunion classes in the
planning and execution of reunions. c. Aggressive campaign to provide Cadets
a Regular Army commission upon graduation. d. Tend more to the AOG Membership,
and less to "the Establishment." e. The AOG should not be a "captive" of
West Point, but a vocal supporter, but when necessary, a severe critic.
Note: Other than Goals 2 and 7, the rest are timid and "process" oriented,
rather than service oriented.
[920] a. Greatly improve AOG communications with class organizations,
particularly the 5 year reunion classes. b. Assist Reunion classes in the
planning and execution of reunions. c. Aggressive campaign to provide Cadets
a Regular Army commission upon graduation. d. Tend more to the AOG Membership,
and less to "the Establishment." e. The AOG should not be a "captive" of
West Point, but a vocal supporter, but when necessary, a severe critic.
Note: Other than Goals 2 and 7, the rest are timid and "process" oriented,
rather than service oriented.
[921] delete goals 4 (AOG package) & 7 (compensation). Modify
goal 5 to read "emphasize the promotion of successful financial programs"
and have items a and b as specific objectives.
[922] Reduce AOG staffing to the bare minimum
[923] Not sure I agree with this: (a) Monitor the expansion of the
WPF and the development of the 2002 capital campaign. (b) Assist the WPF
in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those directed to the Army Athletic
Project Why can the USAF and USNA gain public funds for athletic facilities,
but USMA cannot? I do not appreciate the AOG soliciting me for funds.
[924] Goals should specify programs and detailed descriptions of
areas AOG is to place its emphasis The main goals should be to "assit in
formulation and planning of 2002 celebration with the goal of enhancing
public awareness of US<A's past and future contributions to America."
[925] reduce concentration on athletics support academic/professional
dimensions of USMA Worry about lobbying to save USMA during 21st Century
[926] Emphasize Goal 2 and delete Goal 7.
[927] Strengthen local chapters
[928] Somehow the message has to get to the Congress supporting the
Academy. With the staedy decline in membership with prior military service,
the support for the academies continues to erode. Specifically, the message
I get from the hill is that the other two services do a remarkably better
job at supporting themselves ang garnering resources than the Army in general,
and the academy in particular. We should harness our ability to assist
the academy and the Army in continuing to be allocated the funding support
necessary for a robust and continuing program.necessary to
[929] Eliminate 4,5,6,7. Seek ways to retain graduates for full Army
careers.
[930] AOG should develop a capability to give graduates views on
mission related issues
[931] Although the AOG is helping graduates leaving the Army transition
to civilian life, I think you should more clearly specify this than "provide
assistance package" to grads.
[932] #4 delete "in the Army"--this implies that AOG is only for
active duty army grads #7 Delete entirely--Management should continually
review benefit/comp package to ensure fairness. Not suitable as a period
goal.
[933] Goals are focused inwardly to fix a perceived problem within
AOG. They do not, in many instances, support the AOG purpose.
[934] ADD: Continue to provide support and nurturing to local West
Point Societies. Continue to provide Membership with assistance for professional
development and career transitions (i.e., placement services) [Note: point
here is to increase the relative importance of the function within the
AOG by including as goal]
[935] The goals are fine as stated....BUT see Item 14.
[936] 1. Review and revise Mission to increase the focus on Graduates
2.Separate AOG from WP Fund
[937] I didn't realize 1 & 2 were problems; goals 3 & 4 &
7 sound especially interesting. How about providing "support" to specific
cadet clubs like speakers, networking?
[938] The goals are fine. I've already give my view on AOG - grad
relationship. I've already commented on goals 2 and 3. Hopefully the AOG
will meet these goals. From my perspective, work is needed.
[939] Too internally focused Should be doing everything to inform
public on accomplishments of West Pointers for bicentennial Should be engaged
with congress Should be formally conveying graduates views on standards
at West Point Should be supporting graduate needs
[940] Empasize #3 as mentioned above w/ mentoring of new cadets and
young officers.
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