Q16: Are these the goals you want AOG to have for 1997-1999? |
2. Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the AOG membership and the AOG management.
3. Continue to improve the communication process between the AOG staff, AOG membership, the extended West Point family, USMA, the U.S. Army, and the American public.
4. Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in the Army.
5. (a) Monitor the expansion of
the WPF and the development of the 2002 capital campaign.
(b) Assist
the WPF in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project.
6. Improve the coordination between USMA/AAA/AOG.
7. Develop a comprehensive compensation/benefit package for AOG employees.
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A total of 940 graduates entered 1480 comments
making recommendations for change and improvements to the AOG goals.
Graduates want goals supporting all graduates rather than one particular
group. They want efforts taken to bind all together through better
communications and activities. Increased efforts to gain public,
congressional, and DOD support for West Point, as well as the AOG exercising
greater influence on maintaining the highest of standards at USMA were
strong points. Many expressed a desire to see the return of regular
commissions for graduates. The responses were categorized as follows.
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The following are the raw comments collected for this survey question. The numbers serve only to identify the comment for this question and do not serve any other identification purpose:
[001] 1. AOG should be dedicated to representing USMA Graduates.
[002] The current goals lists lacks a statment expressing a commitment
to improving services to graduates, which is an extensive and welcome aspect
of the current Exec Dir's stewardship. These should be specifically cited.
An additional goal, unstated in this list, is that of providing a link
between the graduate and the Corps of Cadets by furthering AOG financial
support for cadet activities. I regard this as separate and distinct from
WPF and Proj 2002 "monitorship."
[003] I think AOG should do more in coordinating with the USMA staff
to preserve traditions that should be preserved. Over the last few years,
I think too many changes have been made capricously in the name of making
USMA more like the "real army" which only exists in the minds of the thinker
at the time. Cadets aren't privates and shouldn't be thought of that way,
nor are they officers or NCOs. They are West Point cadets being trained
to be leaders of characters. I don't think you can get there by training
them to act like privates, etc. I would be gald to elaborate if you care
to discuss this further.
[004] I'm not sure what the goal of creating an "AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army" means. Assist with what? I hope within the AOG
goals there is room for effort to preserve what in my day was called the
"Thayer" educational system. Too many of the word of mouth changes I hear
about seem to be remaking West Point in the image of a state university.
Any outreach programs should be race and gender neutral.
[005] They seem adequate, but 1,2 and 3 sound like you're not doing
that now, when I believe you are. You just want to improve those functions.
[006] Delete 2, 4, 5, and 7
[007] Assist USMA graduates who have left active duty in finding
employment and in networking.
[008] The first two are standard, and are unneeded. The rest are
very broad and does not tell anyone of the specific parameters you are
trying to acheive. Also, goals need to be more focused on better use of
donations to some extent. The buying of expensive statues etc. in the face
of a budget crunch throughout the gov't is not prudent if the school is
being cut dollars.
[009] 3 cheers for #4!!
[010] (Ref para 3) If possible, could the AOG also look at improved
communications with the legislative branch of the federal government?
[011] Should the AOG be an organizaion that facilitates between the
academy and it's graduates - increase awareness of ongoing academy programs,
activities and needs; provide an active outreach program to broaden graduate
involvement in AOG/Academy forums; develop programs to support the long
terms needs of the academy and it;'s graduates.
[012] These sound like "how do I get more money for the management".
[013] Please be more specific/quantifiable. How do you intend to
measure the progress made towards specific goal? When will you declare
achievement of a goal? Again, I would look outside the Academy for what
other educational institutions are aiming for, to ensure we have thought
of everything and are comparing our performance to the "Best Practices"
around. If this has been done then, we can improve our level of confidence
that we have an effective AOG.
[014] Open the books to graduates. Account for the 15% overhead that
is currently taken from all checks. Provide details on the management of
the endowment, ie rate of return.
[015] Career transition services.
[016] 1. Instill pride. I do not find this appropriate. I am proud
that I am a graduate of USMA, not that I am a member of the AOG. I do not
think the AOG can do anything to increase my "pride" in being a USMA grad.
2. Bond of Trust. Since I understand that the AOG management are all USMA
grads, I trust them. I just do not know what they actually do. 3. Improve
communications: I would like to see an emphasis on communications with
GAP - the Great American Public. I think the primary focus of the AOG should
be to enhance the image of USMA in the eyes of GAP. The only publicity
seems to be negative, we make the papers when there is a scandal of some
sort, but do nothing to let people know of the good things that happen
at USMA. 4. I do not know what kind of assistance is being contemplated.
This should be more specific. 5. Fundraising seems to be appropriate 6.
I did not know that there was a problem with the current coordination between
these entities. If there is, it should be easily solved and should not
require much effort. If it is a significant problem, I would need more
information about the problems to determine the source - perhaps the source
is the AOG itself. 7. Just like we should take of the troops, we should
take care of the AOG employees.
[017] Add-- 1. Develop a plan to tell the West Point story to the
public. Solicit funds to produce and tell this story in multi media formats.
2. Develop a plan to develop better congressional support and interest
in West Point. Especially support for fully funding all requirements of
USMA.
[018] Any association of gradutes (from any school) should have as
its primary goals the overall success in life of its graduates, the continued
prosperity of the instutionion itself, and the individual success of its
graduates. These three goals can and should be met in many forms and fashions,
but should nontheless remain the focus. Take Harvard as an example. Harvard
graduates go out of their way to have active fellowship with one another;
the help each other succeed in their careers; and watch very carefully
over the school itself. When necessary, the close ranks around the school
or each other. That is what an alumni association should do. I am not advocating
a return to the "West Point Protective Society" as I've heard the old days
of "ring knockers" called. But graduates should not be ashamed either for
making special efforts to mentor, advise, and, yes, open doors for fellow
graduates. At the same time, we have a duty to watch over the health and
welfare of our alma mater.
[019] Separate the AOG and WPF. Do not understand what #6 means.
Do not see a need for #4.
[020] The frequent solicitation for money is wearing thin because
everybody (AAA,AOG, Class Projects etc.) all need funds. There are real
problems long term in the Army especially in the benefits arena (medical)
that condition what people can support. Not all grads are terribly flush.
[021] How about mentioning those graduates no longer in the Army?
[022] 1 is lame. Our pride is associated with the institution, not
the self-agrandizing, self-sustaining AOG. 2 is arrogantly backwards. The
AOG doesn't trust grads - witness the way grads are treated at Herbert
Hall. 3 "improve the communication process" is a meaninglessly weak bureaucratic
phrase. 4 Promising, but what does it mean? 5 eliminate. I'm sick of the
jock focus. 6 meaningless gibberish. 7 not a goal that interests me.
[023] Build public support for USMA
[024] Add a goal related to recruiting/admissions support
[025] Add Assist in building multiple channels of association: ideals,
friendships, commercial.
[026] Lobby to restore federal funding cuts to USMA Provide the Supt
with honest, realistic feedback about his fundraising fantasies.
[027] You have combined goals of the AOG as an organization with
the goals for managing the organization staff. I believe these should be
separated and graduates should be concerned with the former. While I have
no complaint with the goals for managing the staff, I'm ready to entrust
those to Jack Hammack and the Board. If you focus on what the AOG should
accomplish, I think you should consider a more aggressive advocacy. Specifically,
there are PR and lobbying activities that USMA and the Army probably cannot
address. I think we can tastefully and positively advance the public's
understanding of West Point and that this should be a goal.
[028] We should add a goal designed around the graduates themselves.
If we focus on graduates (ie. help graduates) they in turn will help the
AOG accomplish all of its goals.
[029] I believe emphasis on Athletics is the wrong focus for this
time with other more pressing issues at hand such as the need to reinstate
the awarding of Regular Commissions.
[030] Except emphasis on support of Athletic Dept
[031] With the exception of the goal for graduates, every function
is directly related to fundraising or the growth of the AOG organization
[032] I do not really understand what is meant by goal #1 - "Instill
pride in the AOG membership" Pride in what? Is it pride in being a member
of the "Long Grey Line", pride in being a member of the AOG, or something
else? Goal #2 is much more focused and I do understand and agree with it.
[033] Recruitment of future cadets is fine, but I object to preferential
treatment being giving to anyone.
[034] The AOG needs to represent the graduates to the USMA administration
on those important issues that affect USMA programs and goals, particularily
thiose affecting cadet education and training
[035] See # 15.
[036] Internet error in script when attempting to view goals.
[037] Don't like "Y" or "N"-- is #7 a problem? #2 & #5 really
need work. #5b is for the birds! #3 also needs a scrubbing.
[038] Comment: I have trouble seeing that the goals fully support
the above mission statement.
[039] Delete #4 - "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army."
[040] CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY BURNISH THE MILITARY ACADEMY'S IMAGE
TO AMERICA AND THE WORLD, WITH SPECIFIC FOCUS ON KEY CORPORATE AND ELECTED
POLITICAL LEADERS.
[041] Goal 4 and Goal 7 do not look like major goals for an association
such as ours.
[042] I am unccomfortable with the idea of supporting capital prorams.
[043] ADD== ESTABLISHMENT OF A MINORITY ENDOWMENT FUND. I KNOW SEVERAL--AND
I DO MEAN "SEVERAL"--PEOPLE WHO ARE WAITING FOR SUCH A SITE TO EMERGE.
LAST YEAR, I ASKED THE AOG TO GRANT A PORTION OF MY DONATION TO ASSIST
THE CADET GOSPEL CHOIR, BECAUSE SUCH A SITE WAS NONEXISTENT.
[044] more active support for intercollegiate athletics
[045] OK as far as they go, but see my comments below.
[046] Define and promote minority representation in the Corps of
Cadets for the 21st century.
[047] I suuport all the goals listed; however, I am most interested
in the plans to increase compensation and benefits for AOG employees. Their
work is vital, but funds raised in support of West Point should not be
routed to pay and benefits. What are the current compensation schedules
and where do are these funds procured?
[048] Goal number 4 is great. The grads need to have a survival kit
when they reach active duty. Is there a way we can also add one about helping
cadets, while they are still at USMA, to be ready for life after they leave
"mother West Point"?
[049] Add assistance to Admissions, recruiting, and local support
of cadet activities while in local Society areas.
[050] 5. Should be eliminated as a primary goal. This is, and should
be, a minor function. 6. AAA should be eliminated -- again this should
be a relatively minor function rather than a goal. Recommendation: Pick
up some of the political-support, strategy and direction thoughts from
the Mission statement comments made above.
[051] Re #4: Does assistance imply aid while still on active duty?
There is certainly no need to help those who resign or who are on retired
pay.
[052] More advocacy work to improve the status of West Point, such
as working to reinstate Regular commissions for USMA grads, returning to
basic academic program, for instance.
[053] Delete goal which provides funding for USMA operations.
[054] If graduates are board members of the AOG, and we need to instill
trust and confidence, we have lost a big battle. What is an AOG assistance
package? I believe there is already plenty of pride that exists in all
members of the AOG.
[055] but, #1 should also include a goal of expanded membership.
[056] See Purpose Statement above.
[057] I don't see why pride in AOG membership is a goal; the pride
should be in being a USMA graduate. If you (we) accomplish the other goals,
then pride would follow.
[058] Aid and maintain communications between graduates throughout
their careers in and out of the Army.
[059] Improve visitor housing at West Point Prepare for West Point's
200th Anniversary
[060] Whatever
[061] Item 1 is a given. Focus should be on pride in and support
for USMA not ourselves. Item 3 is too broad.
[062] delete pride.this will follow naturally after confidenceis
established per goal2.
[063] Need more definition on what the assistance package is for
active duty.
[064] I fully support these goals. However, is there any type of
strategy in place that will assist the AOG in achieving these goals? For
instance, goal @1 (..pride in the AOG membership) is a good goal, but one
that is difficult to measure. How are you going to instill pride? Just
a thought. I like the goals; however, am concerned on the how the AOG is
going to accomplish them.
[065] Goal 5. Delete Army Athletic Project. Support of athletics
is important but so are other needs. Add. Develop data bases and information
on key issues, especially issues of concern to AOG members (such as RA
Commissions), which can be accessed by AOG members to determine their personal
positions.
[066] Goal 4. Why does this apply only the Army graduates? I assume
the AOG would be willing to assist grads in any service or out. Or do I
misunderstand the purpose of an "assistance lpackage"?
[067] While I support athletics, the goal of USMA is to provide the
country with Army officers. We should not be in the business of providing
professional football players.
[068] Not sure what is meant by Goal 4 Goal 5 is strictly short term
and too limited
[069] An effort should be made to make public the success of USMA.
This is especially true during a period of prosperity and peace as it will
enhance efforts to recruit outstanding people.
[070] It is time for AOG to actively pursue building a hotel on the
Academy grounds which will accomodate classes and their spouses for reunions,
football games, etc. It is economical and logical to have such a facility
close at hand, as opposed to using buses to move from facilities in New
Jersey or up the Hudson. If MacDonalds and Burger Kind can build on bases/posts,
why can't Marriott or Holiday Inn or any other large firms build at West
Point?
[071] I think linking Graduates (AOG) and USMA more closely should
be the number 1 goal.
[072] The problem I see in the list of goals is that they are designed
to get the AOG going and to be sure graduates have faith in the AOG and
can communicate. That seems to be what it should be as a given. See #17
below.
[073] Corps squad athetics are important, however I believe they
should be the same footing as club squad for AOG assistance/funding.
[074] I'm not sure an employee compensation package should be an
overall goal of the organization.
[075] AOG needs to be a more politically active group to ensure West
Point is adequately funded and supported by congress and the administration.
[076] To assist former graduates as they transition to civilian employment.
[077] These appear to be fine as long as our reason for having an
AOG is not in some sort of jeopardy.
[078] Generally agree but use only of "Army" tends to leave the Air
Force and a few others in a forgotten category.
[079] Eliminate goal 4
[080] You've listed a "support package" for graduates wh o ar in
the Army. What about graduates who are no longer in the Army?
[081] 1. Assist the supe in finding the right way to go. Do not agree
with ALL his proposal. West Point can be ruined by activities such as the
firing of Col. Hallums, and concurrence with the provosions of the The
National Defense Authorization Act which stopped the granting of regular
commissions.
[082] Consider expanding the goal "Develop an AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army" to include assistance for all graduates and
spouses (including widows/widowers) where needed.
[083] regular army commissions
[084] See note above.
[085] Work with the current USMA and Army staffs to ensure that the
cadet development program remains focused on developing competent leaders
capable of performing under stress. During my short service so far, it
is clear that new graduates are not hardened by the same level of sustained
mental and physical stress that has made the academy experience unique
for almost 200 years. While elements of the fourth class system were admittedly
not a "positive leadership example" as proponents of the new look program
argue, the fourth class system taught us perseverance. People of strong
character learn to lead. I argue that this perseverance and ability to
peak under stress is the foundation of the character required for leadership.
One of my favorite maxims is that making things easy for soldiers is not
taking care of soldiers. This applies to cadets particularly. I would offer
far more aggressive support to AOG if the organization devoted more effort
to influencing the cadet experience accordingly.
[086] How about weighing in a bit about the academic and leadership
programs at the academy instead of always ranking the athletic programs
as most important. Even if you protest that you are not emphasizing athletics
at the expense of the other facets of academy life, your actions (and these
goals) argue differently.
[087] I see the goals as being very tilted toward what graduates
can do for the Academy. I'd like to see a more balanced approach that also
addresses what the AOG can/will do dor graduates.
[088] Unable to see list
[089] Three additional goals are needed or should replace some of
the current goals: 1. Some reference to the focus on the role Society's
play within the AOG. 2. Some reference to the focus on the role the Class
structure plays within the AOG. 3. Stronger reference to supporting the
admission's process.
[090] 4. Develop an AOG assistance package for _graduates_in_the_Army_.
First, what about USMA grads in other services (e.g., Air Force). Also,
this sounds like the sort of West Point Protective Assn that folks from
other commissioning sources gripe about.
[091] The better communication is good. I probably haven't been reading
all the email, newsletter and obviously have not been suscribing to Assembly,
but I feel that I don't know exactly what it is the Academy needs for support
and how AOG is meeting that need. Obviously, from my visit for my 15th
reunion, there is a lot that needs to be done at the Academy.
[092] I would not state fund raising support, esp support of the
Athletic Project nor would I state increasing AOG employees compensation/benefits
explicitly -- these are both sensitive issues with many graduates; and
I believe will reduce interest in and support for AOG.
[093] Find out what our MEMBERS want. For far too long, this Assn
has had little input from the grads. Now that the grads have a voice, listen.
First, focus on the grads, THEN on the institution.
[094] 1--Item 3 "continue to improve-----"I do not believe any communications
exists. it is all one way. AOG puts out in the Assembly but does not appear
to have a method of input from its members. I recommend an Ombudsman. 2--Item
5. Funding needs a complete overhaul. Far to involved with too many fund
raising schemes. See Gen Kutyna White Paper. 3--Item 6. I believe coordination
between those 3 is too tight and none exists between AOG and AOG membership.
[095] There used to be a small number of applicants that AOG sponsored
(scholorship) to go to college for a year to prove they could handle college
classes. These scholorships went to applicants that the admissions department
thought showed a strong desire to become Army Officers, but may not quite
meet the acedimic standards. I was one of 25 applicants in 1980 to be offered
a scholorship and I believe of the 25, 23 showed up the following year.
I believe most of us graduated and I for one am still on active duty. This
program enabled me and others to attend USMA where we would not have been
able to otherwise. I obviously would like to see this program continued
if it has been cancelled.
[096] ADD Develope and manage the utilization of the graduated body
in areas where their specific value can be effeciively focused to the benefit
of USMA
[097] Goal: Continue to develop "job network" for transitioning graduates
to the civilian workplace."
[098] When I think of AOG, I think it should be organized like a
corporate board with any USMA grad in a influential position being offered
a post. Not sure if this "old boy network" is still kicking. As far as
goals... 1. Rather superfluous 2. Goes without saying if deeds are present.
3. Is fine but the AMERICAN PUBLIC is the main focus here. I couldn't believe
how many people never heard of West Point when I went back to grad school
at Yale and went to get my first outside job. At first I thought it was
their ignorance but later this actually was quite embarrassing as it was
looked upon like a 2 yr tech school etc. 4. SHOULD BE ONE!!! 5. Fundraising
is fine. AOG should reap what it sows. 6. Implied mission 7. If it's required.
Not sure how it's organized. should be a high powered board with adequate
support staff. May be voluntary at first with stipends later. It should
be a board where grads would want to be a member to pursue their own companies
interest and look to pick up young grads who may have left the service.
This is not POACHING but taking care of our own. ****Insure West Point
is placed among the most competitve colleges again in magazines like Barron's
etc for admissions. I was really disappointed to see our name pulled away
from the Ivy's and stuck in a separate section in the back.
[099] Seek creative and active ways to maintain a Corps of Cadets
which reflects our Army's diversity
[100] We should mention exploiting new technologies to reach graduates
such as the internet and other venues.
[101] The management goals as stated are similar to those of a political
party. They appear to exist simply to preserve the AOG. They should be
changed to reflect the purpose of the AOG - improving USMA, not improving
the AOG.
[102] I am concerned that the Goal of finding support for the Army
Athletic Program will be limited to ODIA sports and will ignore the Club
sports, such as Rugby. I am also concerned that our 2002 Capital Campaign
will focus too much on building projects and not enough on cadet programs.
[103] Keep contact with active units & alumni in active units
[104] I really don't think 1st goal is that important. How do you
plan to measure it?
[105] Mentoring program for current cadets and graduates.
[106] See 15.
[107] A focus on networking - job placement
[108] Assist graduates in providing direct feedback to the USMA administration
to inprove the quality of graduates from the institution - words to that
effect
[109] Drop the emphasis on athletics and focus on academics and cadet
activities. AOG should not be sending athletes to prep schools or worrying
about sports programs in which USMA can't possibly compete (e.g. hockey,
basketball).
[110] The first listed goal, "1. Instill pride in the AOG membership."
is inappropriate and should be deleted.
[111] Develop a a bond between other Academies' AOGs for fostering
common interests and goals that are benificial to all academies.
[112] What is the Assistance package for graduates in the Army? What
is the Army Athletic Project? Does it include the club squad teams?
[113] 1. Have graduates more connected to WP. 2. More focus on the
large number of grads in the civilian sector. 3. More support of the local
societies. 4. Now that fund raising seems to be the number one job of the
Superintendent, provide a better explanation of where the money is going,
and why so many things did not seem to be done right the first time. It
is hard to give if the money is not being spent wisely.
[114] Goal 4 (assistance package for graduates in the Army) is narrow
and short sighted. Many graduates are no longer on active duty. I find
it difficult to feel proud of being a member of an organization such as
the AOG (Goal 1), or to trust such an organziation (Goal 2), when that
organization ignores me because of my status. My belief is linked to my
financial contribution to AOG -- none. I also believe that most AOG trustees,
in particular, have categorized all graduates into two groups: (i) those
grdaudates who serve 20 years or more and retire and (ii) the rest of the
graduates who serve less than 20 years on active duty. If the AOG insists
on being an organization only for those who *retire* from active duty (Association
of Graduates in the Army), I will continue my financial contribution at
its present level.
[115] My proposed mission statement would yield a completely different
set of goals. I would be glad to work with you if the nature and tone of
the mission statement were altered first.
[116] These are fine. Minor point though is that we probably have
some graduates in the AF and Navy and Marines.
[117] See #15 comments
[118] All of these goals focus on internal administration. There
does not seem to be one where the AOG is actually going to DO anything.
(Maybe the mission DOES need to be sharpened up).
[119] see previous comments, what will AOG do for ME? hate to be
so selfish, but it is a tough world out there.... and I have to spend my
time and money and energy on trying to improve my own life, before I can
have the luxury of assisting AOG individually and financially.
[120] Why is the AOG assistance package limited to graduates in the
Army? What about other services? Civilian life?
[121] Delete compensation package goal. It may be necessary but not
part of an organization's goals. AOG should provide service to graduates
not just communication. How will service be improved? Most goals are nebulous.
Should be objective and measureable.
[122]
[123] AOG is USMA's equivalent to Harvard's, Yale's, etc post graduation
networking associations. Their's work extremely well (and are very influential).
We would do well to emulate. As a minimum we should be emphasizing the
point of facilitating the maintenance of a post graduate community through
communication, networking, and communal activities (e.g., Beat Navy road
trips, etc)
[124] Do not understand #4
[125] Delete # 5 b, Army Athletic Project
[126] Procure addtional membership benifits such as discounts and
exclusive offers for AOG members Expand the networking opportunities for
AOG members Rally more active participation. ie have more events
[127] Suggestion to have the goals more measurable. Establish targets
so that the AOG can continuously improve. Goals without measurable targets
cannot easily be tracked toward attainment. For example: 1. Instill pride
in the AOG membership. Target: Attain a 5% increase in membership per annum.
2. Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the AOG membership
and the AOG management. Target: Develop a "top 3 problems" list and find
a solution within one year.
[128] Goal 4: Delete "in the Army"
[129] Better education program to those in Congress. WP should be
federally funded for ALL of its needs.
[130] I am not a member of AOG -- these goals mean nothing to me.
[131] Am somewhat ambivalent about your management goals. If these
are the ones you want, fine. However the first three are curious. #1 should
be a given. #2 implies that trust has not been there before. That might
be, but it's sad if it was ever the case and has to be so explicitly stated
as a goal. #3 speaks of improved communication to a wide variety of audiences
from the extended West Point community to the American public. I think
these might be too broad. What I found curious though was that commo with
USMA was third on the list. Whatever happened to a graduate association's
mission to support its alma mater? Can't we state that more explicitly
somewhere?
[132] Resolve the disconnect between the reorganization of the Regular
Army commission and the relationship between ROTC and USMA. As a graduate,
I bought into the concept of a small cadre from USMA with the bulk of the
Reserves from ROTC. With the reorganization, downsizing, etc., this no
longer sells well.
[133] Better PIO to support higher ethics and morals throughout the
Army Leadership and the cadet corps.
[134] AS above lets realize the statistics, over a third of us enter
civilial life by the end of the mandatory service period, about 10% are
left after 20 years, we desperately need to promote West Pointers for civilian
jobs, and very few individuals are doing that. As above the WPSNY for someone
in my age group is worthless, thank God I am in my own business, but don't
look for them for contacts. However some of my classmates were not so lucky,
and received the same zero level of assistance when they needed it most.
Did any of you AOG guys hear of downsizing???? Let me assure you its wasn't
a weeding out of the weak, it was an accounting exercise to minimize cost.
We have good people out there who could not look to their alma matter for
needed help.
[135] Delete those which are or appear to be dedicated to expanding
the role of and the compensation for the staff. i.e. #7, Improving the
benefit program of the staff, and #5 expanding the fund raising role, and
staffing of the AOG. #4 is fine. Should be doing more of this sort of thing.
# 1, 2, 3, and 6 are vague and do not lend themselves to measurement. In
other words, their achievement or non-achievement are nebulus as to be
of little value. They mean, to paraphrase from Alice in Wonderland, "precisely
what I think they mean, nothing more and nothing less". An exercise in
bureaucratic gobbly goop.
[136] change #4 to read: Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army and civil life
[137] Assist career service graduates transition to the civilan market
[138] 1. There should be some mention of support to the local WPPC.
[139] I am not familiar with the Army Athletic Project. The results
of the Navy game suggest a project is needed, but I doubt that fund raising
will be the solution.
[140] #5 is unacceptable. Period.
[141] The goal to develop a strong link between graduates and cadets
does not jump out at me. I don't view the cadets and "the Academy" as the
same thing. In 4 years when my Godson graduates, I want him and the academy
to have benefitted from the AOG efforts.
[142] I don't think the pay and compensation of AOG employees is
worthy of GOAL status.
[143] See item 15. The higher goals we all seek are not necessarily
served by strong central direction. Members provide their own direction
and interests. The AOG should enable us to excel in those varied interests
in cooperation with other members. Keep us aware of current Academy issues,
and let members contribute optional solutions.
[144] Add: Help USMA instill in cadets a motivation to serve a full
career in the active Army. Motivate younger graduates to become active
in local societies.
[145] There is too much emphasis on the AAA and on the AOG per se--and
I go to at least two games a year and have respect for the emplyees of
the AOG- butI would like the emphasis to be on cadets and cadet recruiting--I
don't need AOG to "instill pride" in me.
[146] Eliminate goals 1 and 2. I don't think they are a problem.
If the AOG has a problem with pride in its membership, then there are bigger
issues to deal with. And if there is mistrust, we probably need to reengineer
the entire organization.
[147] Some of the goals, including the first two do not seem consistent
with the Purpose Statement. The AOG should not place its needs before the
needs of the Academy... 1. Trust in AOG management should not be in this
list. Is there a trust issue in this organization? Arent't USMA graduates
involved in this organization? 2. Pride in AOG? Pride in the Academy ought
to be enough. 3. Of course AOG employees should have excellent compensation
and benefits... but these administrative objectives should not be on the
operational goals list. *As for goals to recommend to the AOG... I suggest
that any goal must flow from the excellent Purpose Statement.
[148] Undecided
[149] Enhance the networking capability expand goal # 5 to include
civilian duffs too whats with this comp.comp/bennie package? Is mgmt goal
#6 an indication of disfunctionality? Mgmt Goal #2 overlaps #6 or vice
versa. eliminate overlap
[150] delete 1 and 2. If anything, they are outcomes of goal 3.
[151] there is entirely too much emphasis on athletics
[152] #7 is an internal management goal and should not occupy the
overall membership's time. Delete. #5 - Explain the capital campaign and
Army Athletic Project
[153] Needs more analysis! Compared to other alumni associations
in SC the USMA's assoc is inactive. I suspect we have well over 800 members
and growing! Why cannot we have a more visible impact on and in the community?
[154] Yes, in general, but I don't think the AOG should be in the
coordination game between AAA and USMA; that's a USMA function. It should
not be involved with fund raising; that's a WPF mission. The AOG is for
graduates and for helping WP.
[155] The AOG should actively help career movements outside of the
active duty part of one's career.
[156] only 5 and 7 apear meaningful. 7 appears selfserving.
[157] Delete all except 4 & 5. The others sound like bureaucrat-speak.
7 is exceptionally out of touch with the rest of the world; only a decaying
few industries/companies have a defined benefit plan. I would strongly
suggest a defined contribution plan; otherwise any remaining support for
maintaining the current system will vanish.
[158] The goal to improve the benefits package for AOG employees
seems self-serving. There should be a reasonable program compared to the
average in industry.
[159] Delete: 4, 5 and 7
[160] These may be the goals, but in real life, they have not been
actively followed
[161] I am somewhat lukewarm on the goals, but I have no great ideas
at the present time.
[162] 5b. Disagree with the money grubbing implications of this goal.
[163] I believe that the current AOG management is focusing far too
much attention on Army athletics -- specifically football. The belief is
that if our athletic facilities are not competitive with (e.g.) University
of Texas, Notre Dame, UNC, etc. then we will not be able to recruit the
cream of the crop. I disagree. We need to be recruiting great Americans
who are smart, fit, and willing to commit 20 years of their lives to serving
their countryas officers in the Army. A $24 million football annex isn't
taking many steps in that direction. AOG is a partner in this vector, and
I fundamentally disagree with it.
[164] Need long discussion and analysis before responding to the
listed goals.
[165] Don't quite understand "pride in AOG membership". Is this different
and distinct from "graduate' ?
[166] Admissions work, especially minority.
[167] Why an AOG assistance package just for those still in the Army?
The bulk of my class is no longer on active duty -- why should the majority
be cut out? I say all this, of course, not knowing what such a package
will be.
[168] Delete emphasis on fund raising. Make the West Point Fund more
of a separate operation and get toe emphasis of the AOG out of fund raising.
The current overemphasis on fund raising is unpopular with many graduates.
[169] More emphasis should be placed on educating the public as to
the mission of the USMA.
[170] Goal #1 is superfluous. Graduates are proud of being graduates.
Goals 2,3,6 and 7 relate to improving AOG staff performance of routine
adminstrative and communications matters, and comprise internal administrative
affairs to be addressed by the AOG staff. They are not suitable "goals"
to be pursued by the membership at large, nor are the stuff of a public
statement of goals for the membership. They are administrivia. Goal 5 is
the only goal likely to be visible to most members, and it manifests itself
as incessant pleas for funds, caused by lack of federal funding. Goal 4
is unexplained. See below for suggestions.
[171] 1. I hope members of the LGL already have pride 2. #3 and #6
appear the same 3. #7 may be a goal of employees but it is not one of mine
[172] All of the goals deal with $$, what goals are there to "furthering
the ideals" and traditions?
[173] seperate AOG and WPF completely
[174] Improve minority participation through community colleges in
the face of declining committment to affirmative action programs by developing
a targeted sponsorship program.
[175] there should be something included about assisting potential
cadets/applicants...the best way to promote an institution is to help maintain
the standards of its members
[176] These goals seem OK but, they do not seem to fall under the
stated purpose, as stated above, they do have an orrientation on graduates.
[177] Extend the career/transitory/advisory services for graduates.
USMA has no "career services" like most other universities. However, there
is definitely a need for such an office for graduates because every one
of them will change employment at least once during their working life.
Our need for employment assistance is not immediate, as is the case for
other universities, but years after graduation. We are weak in that area;
AOG has begun to fill the gap, but more needs to be done. I'm not recommending
that AOG do this task, but AOG should be leading the charge to get a system
set up to do it.
[178] See my response to #15. Some of the current goals are in this
direction, for which I compliment you.
[179] To reduce fund raising costs from X to Y. Ultimately, the fund
raising costs should go to zero in 2010, or some year. AOG should report
the progress in reducing fund raising each year. As the AOG endowment grows,
then fund raising should drop. My classmates and I are watching for progress
in this and AOG must report this to the graduate body. For example: Cost
on the dollar for fund raising: CY 96 17.4 cents; CY 97 16.9 cents; CY
98 16.2 cents, etc. If the AOG does not do this, then your long term fund
raising will be in jeporday with grads and other friends of USMA.
[180] They are too bureaucratic. Need some goals with some iron and
fire in them. How about starting with: 1. Take aggressive, public and private
action to ensure that West Point is perceived to be the finest Military
Academy in the World! Lobby and do the things that the active duty people
cannot do. 2. Aggressively counsel the Superintendent and the Administration
to accomplish #1 by being the voice of the graduates not just the voice
of the generals, the rich, and the famous.
[181] make plebe year hard again.
[182] There should be one overarching goal. I suggest #6 - or a modification
thereof. E.g. Support links between the members of the AOG, West Point,
...
[183] Delete #7 Good luck on #2
[184] Focus on returning the military to the Corps of Cadets.
[185] I am pleased to see the assocation's pledge towards army athletics.
[186] Again, more effort to include former cadets in Academy affairs.
After all, Cow summer washouts like me went through the toughest two years
of the program just like the rest of you, and it changed our lives forever
-- for better or for worse -- just as much as it changed yours. In a way,
we are almost "half-graduates." The least you could do is show a little
respect for us and our opinions, instead of treating us as non-existent
pariahs, which seems to have been the AOG policy so far. Sorry to give
it so hard and straight, but that's the way I've felt all these years.
[187] #4 is absolutely KEY! And, it must tell us what we can do beyond
contributing money.
[188] Number 4 is key. I would incorporate some kind of emphasis
on how the AOG may help transition to the civilian world after the Army.
[189] Review and recommend actions to maintain the traditions of
West Point
[190]
[191] assist graduates in finding positions in the corporate sector
[192] #5 should have more categories in the Army in government service
and in other areas
[193] One goal says "in the Army." As this questionnaire does not
address status of grads serving proudly in the Army Reserve or Guard, AOG
appears to be, like AUSA, focused totally on the active component in it's
thinking. I had no opportunity in question 5 military/civilian status to
indicate that I am an active civilian AND an active Reservist. Short sighted
of the AOG to neglect the Army Reserve and Guard as having any status at
all in your survey.
[194] Expand the support for the graduate portion.
[195] I need clarification of #4 "Develop an AOG assistance package
for graduates in the Army." Why just the Army? What type of assistance?
Would this exclude civilian graduates?
[196] These are excellent goals for the management team but many
are not appropriate goals for the organiztion. I would like to know what
the organization plans to do in areas such as supporting the community
and our international graduates
[197] None of the goals speaks to the relationship between graduates
and current cadets. I think the goals should reflect establishing some
connection beneficial to the Corps of Cadets as they prepare for their
careers.
[198] Goal #: 1. What does this mean? - pride in USMA? - pride in
AOG? - AOG staff pride in AOG members? - I suggest that AOG is a means
to further the other goals, and not an end in itself. 3. Why coordination
with the American public? Doesn't seem to fit. This is a goal for public
institutions, not for the AOG unless it is seen as a problem somewhere.
4. What is an AOG "assistance package", and why is it only for USMA graduates
in the Army? Perhaps this is a project, not a "goal". 5. What is WPF? (OK,
answered in #18)What exactly is the AOG role in assisting other USMA activities?
Are these contradictory to the AOG missions?
[199] The AOG needs to recognize that many of its members were not
career military, but entered civilian life early in there career. Too often
we feel excluded and/or treated as second class citizens.
[200] I have a personal project which I'm pursuing through class
e-mail comm. I'm not yet ready to conclude how AOG should contribute to
the cause I have in mind. I'm not trying to be sinister ,; I just need
a little more time to reach my own conclusions. This project has to do
with what I believe to be real problems in all armed forces relating to
perceptions of women in combat. I'll have some more definitive ideas in
a month or so.
[201] You should also add Developing an AOG assistance package for
graduates that are now in the civilian sector.
[202] financial goals?
[203] I don't feel qualified to modify goals made by people much
more knowledgable and active in the AOG than me. However, you might consider:
o you can't measure No.s 1 and 2, something USMA taught us to avoid when
setting goals. :-) o I don't know what you mean in 4 by an "assistance
package." Since I personnally have never taken advantage of things like
AOG job placements help, etc., I would question this goal unless, historically,
you have found a sufficiently high number of people use it and therefore
the benefits justify the costs.
[204] Like most of it but question the business of providing a "package"
for active duty personnel. What does this mean? Could be taken the wrong
way by those who are not graduates. Not sure that the statements concerning
the WPF are strong enough. Seems to me that the AOG should be responsible
for the WPF. Do not believe the statements as such underscore this responsiblity.
[205] Delete # 7
[206] It's not clear what is meant in goal 4. by "an AOG assistance
package for graduates in the Army".
[207] Pretty well stated, but add a goal "to separate the AOG from
the West Point Fund." Add another: "To work actively with maximum effort
to restore RA commissions to graduates at graduation."
[208] Contribute to the formulation of the future purpose and character
of the Academy.
[209] I'm not sure I understand the purpose of #6 in light of the
presence of #3.
[210] I am glad you are starting to focus on people
[211] Delete Goal 5 in its entirety. Substitute the goal of assaulting
Congress, the Executive Branch and all the Media to gain public support
for the Service Academies.
[212] "Develop a strong bond of trust and confidence between the
AOG membership and the AOG management." I was not aware that there is a
problem with trust. If there isn't, you might want to change "Develop"
to "Maintain." "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates in the
Army." Please define what you mean by "assistance package."
[213] The goals are fine, however, if they are listed in order of
importance, I think they are out of order. To me, numbers 3 and 6 should
be 1 and 2, as I think they are primary in achieving the mission stated
in survey question #15, above.
[214] I don't like the first goal. Recommend rewording it to something
like "Instill a strong sense of identity with the AOG in members and graduates".
[215] Delete 7 Combine 1,2 & 3
[216] same goals, just change the priorities
[217] You mentioned assistance to graduates in the Army. What about
graduates not in the military?
[218] Why limit assistance to graduates in the Army? How about graduates
in other services?
[219] Do noit become a rubber stamp for the USMA administration as
it seems to have become in the past few months.
[220] 1. Support core education and and military training programs
at USMA everything else is superfilous.
[221] Again, I'm insufficiently familiar with AOG and its efforts,
so, faithfully, have clicked on "Yes" in the absence of any productive
suggestions/additions.
[222] Expand the goal relating to providing assistance to "...Graduates
in the Army..." to include drilling and IRR Resrvists, National Guardsmen/women,
members of other branches of the military, active and reserve, and those
pursuing cvilian careers. (It seems like the only "assistance" offered
is for retirees of significant rank [i.e., LTC and higher] once an individual
leaves military service. You can bet Cornell and Stanford offer "assistance"
to graduates making career/life changes.)
[223] I don't understand some of the goals and some are internally
focused. There is some talk of the customer, but not much. What does goal
#1 and #2 mean? Goal #7 is internal. #3, #4 and #6 are good goals.
[224] Active network/assitance for graduates in civilian life as
well as assistance to those in the Army. Job hotline, access to information
or thoughts on topics, community support, charitable goals other than USMA,
etc.
[225] In looking at the range of services offered by the AOG, I cannot
identify many to the goals; e.g., the travel packages, credit cards. I
think it is legitimate for the AOG to offer these services, but they should
support some goal. Something like the following: offering high quality
services of interest to graduates which represent good values achievable
through the buying power of the AOG. Or: Supplement funding of AOG operations
through sponsorship of services... .
[226] Could not view goals document
[227] Goals are soley management goals; OK for the AOG leadership,
but not OK for the organization as a whole which should focus on assisting
the individual cadet, potential cadet, and graduates. Only goal 4 addresses
this.
[228] They don't say anything.
[229] Develop an organization for graduates to help each other in
the business world
[230] Goals 5 and 6 are the most important and are inter related.
Helping graduates is a worthy goal. Goal 7 should be deleted and not related
to helping USMA. The other goals are eye-wash.
[231] I think they are fine, except I think Number 2 should be a
given, not a goal.
[232] Should add cooperation with West-Point.ORG to the cooperation
goal. Goals are mostly USMA centric rather than grad centric. Gets back
to the purpose above.
[233] 1. Develop AOG network into a more active and vocal arm in
shaping USMA future
[234] Why the primacy of athletics?
[235] The goals sound like they're purpose is to improve AOG's image,
vice doing something of substance.
[236] I think the WPF should also help clubs and academics, instead
of just focusing on athletic support
[237] You need to keep pressure down on 5a and b.
[238] Something about assistance to the Cadet recruiting process.
[239] increase the efforts to promote the academy via public relations
efforts--the media needs to be courted and more efforts to publicize the
usma successes in addition to sports--
[240] More focus should be made on the AOG memebership, and cultivating
a sense of belonging for everyone, not just bif donors. This will greatly
enhanced the support members give to USMA. The members and cadets are what's
important.
[241] Number 5. I don't think a goal of the AOG should be arranging
gifts. That is a class repsonsibility.
[242] MORE EFFORT WITH DA FOR WEST POINT SUPPORT
[243] -Improve the support provided for scheduling reunions. -Improve
and expand the mass communications media -Encourage and support exchange
of ideas between graduates by establishing a chat room and scheduled electronic
meetings with coaches, and the USMA chain of command. -Support resistance
to liberalizing the USMA curriculum keeping focus on Military Art and Science.
[244] Add: "Facilitate means of interaction between professionally
employed graduates in order create an effective business network of West
Point graduates." Note: this network could incude graduates of oursister
academies
[245] You need another option:"I don't know". (And that's true for
many of the questions in the survey: Have you stopped beating your wife?
Answer yes or no. What's an assistance package? And do we make too big
a deal of the AAA support. (I was not a varsity athlete and I think there's
a lot more to USMA than the AAA.) And what's the Athletic Stadium project?
Same as Shea Field?
[246] suggest change "US Army Suggest change "US Army" and "Army"
to "US Armed Forces".
[247] Delete 4 - purpose is not clear Delete 5 - separate from AOG
activities Delete 7 - make an in-house AOG management function Add a goal
to make better known the purpose of AOG
[248] It would help to be more specific with goal #3. How do you
intend to improve the communication process, and what steps have you taken
so far to do this?
[249] Give graduates regular commissions in Army. Work toward eventual
elimination of female cadets. Work toward reducing curriculum to the subjects
that are only essential to being an Army leader.
[250] Exert influence to stop the liberalization of the USMA education
program and return to the prime mission of producing military combat leaders.
[251] I'd recommend the goals be defined more precisely and accompanied
by concrete numbers so performance can be objectively measured.
[252] The AOG should be concerned with the perpetuation of the academy
and not just be a rubber stamp for the Supe.
[253] 1. delete. If we don't have pride..... 2. delete. If grads
can't trust the AOG..... 4. question/ delete. I need more info. 7.delete.
If this is needed, just do it! Rule #1 is get the mission done. Rule #2
is take care of the troops. Mission first, Troops always. The "key" objectives
should be #3,5 and 6. Help Support the Academy
[254] Have not spent time thinking about it, but the goals on the
goals page for 97-99 are not very impressive. I cannot see that the aog
has set its sights on anything of much importance to the futur e of WP
and its role in the nation.
[255] Clicking on "Goals" didn't work.
[256] WHAT IS #4 SUPPOSE TO DO? WHAT IS THE AOG ROLE IN SUPPORTING
GRADS LEAVING THE SERVICE? AOG COMPENSATION IS AN INTERNAL GOAL AND SHOULD
NOT BE PART OF AN EXTERNALLY ESPOUSED GOAL.
[257] I like all or most; only caution is not to focus too heavily
on the AAA thing; we are much more than athletics or a winning football
team.
[258] Please include DCA (Directorate of Cadet Activities) to line
6. Many of the cadets participate in sports and other activities not sponsored
by AAA! This is probably MORE important than the AAA sponsored stuff as
it does not get the some attention. Thanks.
[259] career counseling for active duty officers
[260] Too much emphasis on Army Athletics. Should be more emphasis
on academic excellence.
[261] AOG should encourage USMA to tear down the Thayer Hotel and
build in its place an expanded, more modern 4 star hotel, of the quality
of a Hyatt or Westin. We all love the Thayer, but it lacks the capacity
to satsify the needs of visitors to USMA; especially returning graduates.
Try getting a room on a football weekend even one year in advance. It can't
be done. My guess is that a Hyatt, Marriot, or Westin would be willing
to build and run at their expense a hotel to meet our needs.
[262] Plan and sponsor travel and entertainment activities for graduates
and families
[263] 1. Don't quite understand item 4 and its intent. 2. There is
no statement about promoting USMA to eligible young people. This is our
future strength especially as the pool of college entrants shrinks and
copetition from civil institutions increases
[264] Believe that AOG must expand and become a broader front for
the benefit of all service academies. The time is right now, for the service
academies are still admired. A unified coalition of service academies and
private military-friendly organizations is needed.
[265] Are they in order of importance? How bad is the current pride
in AOG? Is AOG pride measured by subscriptions and contributions?
[266] In the communications paragraph, modify to stress 'with the
most modern technological means'
[267] Why is #4 "Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army" only related to those still in the Army?
[268] These goals are entirely too general and meaningless for the
average graduate whose greatest interest is in training leaders for the
U.S. Army and DOD. Typically of USMA, these listed goals are so broad and
encompassing as to render them insignificant. Need to prioritize, and in
this graduate's opinion, need to focus on the U.S. Army's needs, not the
AOG's needs.
[269] Reduce expense ratio. Disclose better break down of specific
costs to raise money
[270] I don't know if it is covered under any of the goals listed,
but the Academy, and the military in general, is constantly under "attack"
by segments of the political machine in Washington. We should endeavor
to be more of an active lobbying presence, to insure the welfare and continuity
of the Academy.
[271] Work to restore Regular Army commission for graduating cadets
[272] While comprehensive benefits/compensation IS important, my
feeling is that it does not necessarily have to be one of the goals of
the overall AOG. The focus is narrow -- benefitting only those who work
there. The argument that benefitting them benefits all rings hollow to
me. Do it -- just don't make it one of the cornerstone goals of the entire
Assn.
[273] The goal that states to assist graduates in the Army should
read "in the Armed Forces"??
[274] Minor comments: Instill pride, develop a bond among AOG members
and the Assoc's management indicates there's a problem. A goal should be
to foster relationships among association members.
[275] Raising funds without explaining the focus of where the $$
will be spent is hard to totally agree upon. -- Also seems to be a lot
of fuss about reuniting the North and South lately. Seems a dead issue
to me. Civil War is over 132 years. If we need a statue of RE Lee lets
put it up and stop fussing over a non-issue.
[276]
[277] I think an AOG onbjective should focus on AOG member's contribution
to the Public sector. I don't think an AOG assistance package is needed
for Active Army AOG members, unless we are describing support of job placement
in transition to the private sector.
[278] Delete #1, 2, 3.
[279] See response to 15 above.
[280] See above comments.
[281] While compensation for employees is important, not sure it
should be an over all goal. It seems petty compared to others. Similarly
those of us in the service require compnesation, yet it is not one of our
stated goals.
[282] Change #4 to read: Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates.
[283] Add: 1. Reevaluate and redefine the focus of the AOG's activities
to better support the needs of the Graduate Body. 2. Promote better relationships
with the Graduate Body through better and more responsive communication.
3.Communicate to the Graduate Body how the AOG benefits each and every
Graduate, and how the AOG works in "harmony" with the other associations(WP
and AAA) to the betterment of the Graduate Body and the Corps of Cadets.
[284] Less emphasis on "construction." I work for Penn State University
and WP has facilities that most other colleges/universities could only
dream of.
[285] Promote worldwide recognition of the ideals of West Point and
dedicate ourselves to a universal cause such as removing land mines.
[286] The compensation plan should be adequate and reasonable, but
not extravagant. I would anticipate that to be the case, but there is need
for contiued alertness to control administrative expenses in non-profit
organaizations -- to ensure maximum dedication of resources directly to
the target program.
[287] Support for non-atheletic cadet clubs and activities (SCUSA,
International Affairs Forum, Chess Club, etc.).
[288] The goals should be specific. I assume they last for so long
because they are rather ambiguous.
[289] -do not think AOG should be in the job placement business.
-think the compensation must equal the quality of the employees. If significantly
increasing the compensation package, then use the opportunity to attract
a higher quality of employee (ie, bring the quality to West Point, not
just retain retirees available in the area). -segregate all fund raising
operations into WPF and put a firewall between other agencies, except for
info flow within AOG/WPF. Coordinate all fund raising with class fund raising
so classes are not given a double wammy in the same week or month.
[290] Perhaps more career transition assistance
[291] 1. Assist in providing opportunities for alumni to support
the USMA as they are able, e.g. through recruiting, admissions, public
affairs, fundraising. 2. Work to increase areas of cooperation between
alumni organizations of the service academies.
[292] Compensation packages for employees? Is everyone a volunteer
at this time?
[293] Forget this broad cliche usage; what are you going to do that
is measurable? Only number 7. is a real goal.
[294] What does 'Develop an AOG assistance package for graduates
in the Army' exactly mean??? You should include an improved 'jobs file',
and/or improved dissemination of networking opportunities (especially beyond
JMO)
[295] Goals as listed are OK. I suggest including a goal along the
lines of seeking ways to help the AOG be more in a service/servant role
to the local organizations. It has been a number of years since I've been
the president of a local society. AOG support has come a long way since
then. It is always useful to ask this question, however: "Are the AOG programs
in place there primarily to provide means for local societies to serve
the needs of the AOG, or do the AOG programs and practices support the
needs of the local societies?"
[296] No opinion.
[297] It doesn't seem that the goals relate to the mission statement
especially the AOG employees compesation/benifit package.
[298] However, if these goals are in any order, I don't think instilling
pride is number one. These goals should be reordered.
[299] I would propose that the AOG develop an interface with the
legislature, similar to the AUSA and other lobby groups. The purpose would
be to make the voice of the academy heard in the Congress. With fewer and
fewer veterans serving in our government it is imperative that we be heard
in government.
[300] Should delete numbers 1 & 2 as they aren't objectively
measurable. There is no way to quantify success or failure.
[301] Order should be more like 3, 2, 1. And if there is a problem
with the communications with USMA, then that should be the first priority.
How many AOG employees are there? And what do they do?
[302] The goals are fine, but how do you define success in each area?
[303] Promote West Point to the American public (the target audience
is the American Taxpayer/voter) Focus fund raising marketing schemes on
the graduates who make real money (non-active duty)
[304] Perhaps you could amplify goal number 3 with a comment about
promoting the value of military service to the country.
[305] I question items (4 & 7), am opposed to items (5 &
6). I think the lines of demarcation among AOG, USMA, and AAA should be
sharply defined. From all I've seen recently these lines have been totally
blurred if not eliminated.
[306] I question the support to AAA, and specifically the "Army Athletic
Project." Also, I question what compensation and benefits are currently
provided to AOG employees. As a manager in a corporate environment, I look
at the front of assembly and see 'overhead' with the large number of 'Gift
Officers.' My reasons for supporting the Association are for the Academy,
not to take care of the AOG staff. I agree with the mission to 'promote
the welfare of the Academy'. I disagree with promoting the welfare of the
"AOG Staff."
[307] The goals are pretty obscure (other than the last one which
I don't believe should be listed as an explicit AOG goal [i.e., the comp
package should be handled as an action, not a organizational goal]). How
about some REAL goals? What about improving communication with graduates
including establishing formal Internet/e-mail contact with as many grads
as possible? What specific improved support will be provided to graduates
as a goal this year?
[308] Change #4 to be more inclusive by deleting "in the Army".
[309] Delete emphasis on Army athletics facilities
[310] But, I don't understand why there has to be a goal of trusting
the AOG staff. Why wouldn't we?
[311] Can not view Goals
[312] I am not entirely happy with the expansion of the WPF.
[313] See below
[314] Suggest opening membership to AOG to all former cadets who
were honorably discharged but did not complete a full semester. This would
add to membership rolls and help former cadets in their trying to maintain
the strong affection for the Academy.
[315] I don't understand what you mean by an "AOG assistance package"
for graduates in the Army. Could you please clarify? Also, 5(b) is directed
at soliciting gifts particularly for the Army Athletic Project. Although
I fully support that goal, what are the non-athletic projects that are
being supported by the AOG? Specifically, does the AOG raise money to endow
chairs now that there are civilian professors (like Mike Bowers is trying
to do), or does the AOG raise money for Academic Enrichment Projects with
the various departments? Finally, with regard to Goal 3, I think the AOG
should also improve communications between USMA/AOG/Congressional staff
on behalf of the admissions process. I am sure that this is already being
done, but I think that the AOG should take an active role and have as a
stated goal the advancement of USMA through ensuring that qualified candidates
apply and attend the Academy.
[316] The AOG should provide services to those who are not active
or retirees. Job hunting and networking are serious issues for younger,
non-active duty graduates, as well as for recent retirees.
[317] I disagree with the emphasis in goal 5b on athletics and disagree
with goal 7 in its entirety. Goal 7 is a management function and should
not be a goal of the AOG which includes all members. The intent of goal
4 is not clear. What is the purpose of the assistance package? Why is it
only for "graduates in the Army"? What about graduates who have left the
Army or who have retired? What about graduates who went to other services?
[318] Ther first three are very "touchy-feely" but don't have any
meaning to me. Numbers 4, and 6 sound good, but what are you really talking
about? What is it's impact? Number 7? Please. How is a package for AOG
employees a matter for the consideration of the entire orgainization. The
directors should take care of their employees. Period. Do not try and pass
that off as an official goal.
[319] Make AOG a relevant organization to newer graduates.
[320] Unable to open window showing those goals. However, I was able
to print a hard copy. I would ask how these goals relate to Chairman's
current exercise to obtain recommended objectives for 1998 from Classes?
Can I relate my response to his request for objectives to these goals?
Goal number 7 assumes that the current staff is appropriate for the mission.
Another goal should be an unbiased assessment of the size, make-up and,
compensation structure. Add a goal for improvement of financial reporting
(see 17 below).
[321] Your first goal should be to provide support to USMA.
[322] OK, but see 15 above
[323] I am opposed to fund raising by and for the Academy. I am opposed
to any further expansion of facilities. I believe that West Point should
"lay low" and concentrate on producing leaders and quit trying to keep
up with the Jones and quit being all things to all people. Characater is
what West Point is all about and it doesn't need underground tunnels to
pistol ranges to develop character. The place is too big and is an inviting
target to those who would do away with it.
[324] More communication between Grads. We need to build a stronger
grad network.
[325] 1) Serve as a link between graduates (sort of like a Harvard
Club)
[326] The Goals are a bit ingrown. There might be something about
support for the U.S. Army, the U.S. Military or perhaps the United States
of America.
[327] Please expand on #4,5,7. 4- What is the intent of the AOG assistance
packet? 5- Let AAA push the athletic side; there are plenty of capital
improvements that need to be made in areeas affecting the mental and daily
quality of life side of USMA. 6- What is the current package? Why is it
in need of development (because no package exists?)?
[328] I believe that they are acceptable, but would ask that AOG
consider the following: - AOG should exist for the reasons listed above,
but AOG should also exist as a resource for Graduates. Few of us can make
a lifelong career of the Army. We retire after we have done our duty fully,
but that is not always after the 40 or 30 or 20 years we may wish to serve.
There is recent trend to remove graduates from the Army by to early outs,
early retirements, etc. This is leaving a large number of graduates who,
having done their duty fully, are not allowed to continue to serve. This
is an unfortunate consequence of the reduced budgets of recent years. I
have had to make the transition from Army Officer to Civilian Professional
and found that the prevailing arrogant attitude of serving officers (many
of them grads) towards that transition was an unfortunate leadership flaw.
We may support our school, but we fail at supporting our own when they
perform that forward passage of lines into civilian life. We, the graduates
of USMA, hold the key to making the transition easier through simple networking.
That in turn will make USMA stronger by showing our graduates as a success
story in and out of uniform. Service to the nation does not end when the
uniform is taken off. I realize that the Corps' mission can not (and should
not) pander to the civilian sector. I also realize that we all must leave
the service sooner or later.
[329] I cannot answer this question since I am not using a computer
with browser software and become disconnected from the entire survey if
I click the "Goals" cue, which I did the first time I went through the
questions using my WebTV.
[330] Quit dunning me for $$$
[331] Assist USMA in restoring the regular commission wherever possible.
[332] But need to add something about AOG management serving the
AOG membership so that they as a body can fulfill the purpose of the Association.
[333] The goals seem alright, but are fuzzy as to how we'll know
when they're achieved. While I occasionally contribute, I'm also involved
in a number of other things that also also ask for contributions but are
more precise as to what will be achieved through the contributions. I think
we have a proclivity to set goals that are too broad and expensive (1966
was trying to endow an academic chair while many of us were still paying
mortgages and sustaining children in school). Also, I tend to question
the emphasis on AAA - I'd be interested in supporting (in a modest way
compared to others) something that emphasized West Point's history, or
contributions to the Nation. As I write this, some ideas start to form
about West Point on-line (using the impressive Web capabilities you've
developed) for the general public - particulary high-schoolers who are
in the process of making career decisions. Please understand that I'm not
complaining - you're doing a great job! I think there may be other things
to do.
[334] They do not appear to relate to me. They do appear to relate
to fund raising.
[335] I believe Academy graduates have God-given abilities and training
which our country desperately needs if we as a nation are to come out of
our downward spiral. The AOG needs a goal to promote graduates' volunteering
in organizations which promote and carry out the values and ideals which
made our country grea. It's a terrible waste of talent for us to retire
to the golf course when our country needs us so desperately.
[336] It is intresting to me to see a set of goals that focus on
building confidence between the Board and its constituants!! One would
think this is a given after so many years in existence.
[337] Physical Plant Public Relations
[338] Add goal reflected AOG assistance to USMA in academic areas
as well as athletics.
[339] Goals 1 and 2 improperly put a priority on the AOG, not on
USMA or USMA graduates. Goal 7 is self-serving. Goal 4 is ambiguous. Goals
3 & 6 are either redundant or overlapping. In short, if these are the
goals of AOG, it doesn't serve me.
[340] Delete goals mentioning the AAA in particular. What is the
assistance package?
[341] Develop stronger ties with graduates who are no longer on active
duty.
[342] * Develop a consensus among AOG members about what projects
or areas we should focus on for gift-giving, given the goals of the AOG
and its membership. * Develop a better flow of information about transitioning
to civil life (like it or not, a lot of USMA grads are leaving the service.
To maximize the potential they have as individuals and a future donors
to USMA, we should have available the information necessary for them to
find the best employment possible. ( As an MBA student, I DO NOT think
that going to a JMO placement service is a very good option! But when I
got out, that was the only option anyone seemed to want to talk about...)
[343] -instill pride? If they don't have it, the AOG isn't going
to give it to them.
[344] Goals associated with improving graaduates participation in
fund raisers
[345] ADD; Commission cadet graduates as Lts, Regular Army.
[346] Change Goal #7: Develop a competitive compensation package.(comprehensive
implies costly) Also Goal #4 requires more explanation.
[347] #2 is a worthy goal as it does not exist #3 is what you should
already be expert at; #4 is a great expander -- actually the only point
that matters to me #5 is what you do way too much inclusive the AAA part
of #6 #1is irrelevant; pride should be associated w/ the institution and
its cadets not AOG #6,7 have no value
[348] First goal should be to represent the alumni and not the supe
and the administration when differences arise, e.g. RA commissioning policy
and law
[349] 5. b) I don't like the focus of soliciting gifts "particularly
those dedicated to the Army Athletic Program." I think that the varsity
Athletic Program recieves undo attention at the expense of other activities.
[350] 2.TRUST should be an attribute/value we currently share 4.
should not be limited, but should be for all graduates 5.a) should be "Support"
instead of "Monitor" b) reference to Army Athletic Project should not be
specified here
[351] no time to check another site, plus complete this survey
[352] These goals relate to the AOG. I am not really as much interested
in the AOG as I am in USMA. Some of the goals of AOG should relate to USMA.
One goal could be: Refute and rebut inaccurate statements about USMA in
the media and in academic circles. Another could be: Build a larger constituency
in the Army for USMA. A third could be to lobby (sic!) for more funds for
USMA...if the AOG is allowed to do that. There is no reason to have an
AOG except to help USMA survive and prosper.
[353] Post service employment search support for officers who are
retiring , or who wish to change employment.
[354] Address the support of graduates who are no longer in the Army.
[355] I am very much turned off by virtually all of the stated goals.
The primary goal of the AOG staff should be to improve and extend the VALUE
of AOG membership to the graduate. You've forgotten why you're there.
[356] Delete #4. We got what we need at the Academy.
[357] For 1997 to 1999, the goals, as listed, are just fine.
[358] Fund raising. Career services for those leaving military need
major development.
[359] Add - To work closer with local societies to assist in obtaining
the goals of ACOG
[360] gain - a little heavy for an E-mail response. I think the goals
should be those that: 1. Promote applications for enrollment 2. Help graduates.
3. Improve school facilities - (when the govt does not or cannot. 4. Improve
the AOG organization through upgrading compensation, training, recruitment
of skilled people, etc. These may look a lot like your stuff.
[361] Add somewhere: Conduct a professional market research project
to determine the needs of the AOG target market. Also get professional
help on how to better market current services.
[362] specific methods to increase communication with AOG members
[363] Add to line 4: ... for graduates in the Army and in civilian
life.
[364] Goals 1,2,3,6,7 are very broad for a mature organization and
already shoud have been achieved in broad form. Need to develop more specific
goals that can create necessary incremental improvements
[365] I would eliminate "particularly those directed to the Army
Athletic Project" in 5b. The AOG is often thought of as a booster club
for jocks. The focus should be much wider.
[366] More benefits/services for all grads (regardless of service
) for civ employment
[367] We have a new Chairman...these are his stated goals. I would
hope that it would include fostering closer working relationships with
the so-called Military Alliance,,,TROA, AUSA, etc. In addition, we must
find ways to get more grads to subsribe to the Assembly, get on E-Mail,
join and participate with their WPS & Class organizations!!!
[368] #4. Delete the phrase "...in the Army." #6. I have no basis
for an opinion on this one. #7. This appears to be too self-serving, and
should be deleted.
[369] I think AOG should focus on two things 1. providing a information
to the alumni on how the corp of cadets (not the Sup and AOG) can best
be served by graduates and then providing a conduit for those funds/assistance
(have we ever asked the cadets what assistance they would like from alumn?)
2. Provide a source of alumni support and assistance. Having been involed
in classgiving for 4 years, and listening to my classmates, I believe that
AOG comes across as self-serving. Building Herbert hall for themselves
and not the Alumn and at the expense of supporting the corp-of-cadets.
[370] It is important that the AOG be a mutually supportive organization
of Graduates, throughout all walks of life. (Most of us are no longer Active
Duty, Retired, Reserve, etc.) Single-minded focus on obtaining money from
grad's to support the academy alienates many. It is certainly primary,
but we are an "Association of Graduates" as well as a USMA Support resource.
[371] The goals are good "management goals," but they don't address
the issues that the Academy is facing within American society. We cannot
assume that the Academy will be around forever just because it has been
for nearly 200 years. We must continue to actively support it, particularly
with Congress and the nation that elects Congress.
[372] I thik that the AOG should be involved in someway doing some
P.R. for the military academy. With fewer and fewer people serving on active
duty, somebody out there needs to be keeping the public informed about
the contributions of USMA graduates, particulalry if USMA's mission is
to provide leaders of character who serve the nation.
[373] Goals should be added to show how we are accomplishing the
mission of furthering ideals and promoting welfare of USMA. Not sure what
they should be, but a suggestion is to provide a goal to strengthen the
Cadet/Graduates tie to Country as a servant. Current goals are fine to
strengthen the Association
[374] More specific goals that support membership. Specific legislative
goals regarding the continuation and promotion of the Academy. The AOG
is the right organization to do this. If they do not support these goals,
who will?
[375] No is not accurate. I would like to see more emphasis on how
USMA contributes to the Army.
[376] Put some backbone in the institution and get away from political
correctness.
[377] Does not address supporting the Corps, such as awards, sponsorships,
etc.
[378] Support in finding qualified candidates for admission
[379] Focus on bringing together a more integrated network to help
fellow graduates as they look for new jobs after transitioning out of active
Army service or changing jobs as their civilian careers evolve. A much
stronger network needs to be developed where graduates can go to get assistance
and help in this highly volatile employment environment that we all face
in the future.
[380] a complete AOG packet for grads not in the ARMY.
[381] Include developing a closer tie to the business comunity
[382] We don't need the AOG to develop pride. I don't know what an
assistance package for active Army officers is? Why so much emphasis on
jocks?
[383] The goals specifically mention graduates in the Army, but say
nothing about those outside of it. I don't know this to be the case, but
I suspect that graduates in the civilian work force have the greater ability
to donate money to AOG.
[384] These could be adequate if you have acceptable Measurements
of Effectiveness. How do you propose to accurately measure success or failure?
[385] Goals 1, 2, 3, 5(a) and 6 appear vague and non-measurable.
How will anyone know when they have been accomplished? I am really less
concerned with AAA than with other extra-curriculars (obviously, I wasn't(am
not a jock) Different goals Identify reasons why some graduates drop out
of sight after graduation. Develop a program to assist graduates transitioning
from military to civilian service.
[386] Goals three should be foremost.
[387] Impliment a voluntary data base as above described for the
mutual benefit of all AOG members.
[388] recruit top notch athletes
[389] Agree with developing an assistance package for grads in the
Army, PROVIDED that "the Army" includes the reserve components. There is
an ever-increasing number of grads in the USAR and ARNG.
[390] Most of the goals do not seem to have a logical method of measurement
(ex. "instill pride"). It seems like they should be re-written so the success
can be measured.
[391] too much emphasis on athletics. Unclear success criteria. employee
benefits improvements is usually not a goal.
[392] Put AOG members in touch with other USMA graduates in their
geographic area; provide professional contacts within the AOG for AOG members
(e.g., provide a data base of AOG members with similar or compatible professional
interests or needs).
[393] Unsure, as link failed to function on my PC.
[394] Need to talk about things we actually do, rather than improving
communications and relations. Meaningful projects will achieve these results.
[395] Proposed Goal 1 raises the question "Pride in what?" Proposed
Goal 3 is too broad--changes focus from Association of Graduates to Association
of the Army. Proposed Goal 4 appears to change us to the fund raising arm
of the AAA.
[396] SEE #15
[397] See 15 above. Also, the AOG should discourage local societies
from promoting civilian career enhancement. Once you could go to the NY
chapter meetings and it was tightly focused on USMA needs. Now it is focused
on personal career enhancement. There is a need to help graduates who leave
the service find civilian employment, but this should not be a primary
focus of these organizations.
[398] The AOG's gaols associated with WP and the membership and those
of the AOG staff do not belong in the same management list! One of the
more obvious disconnects between AOG members and the AOG is that the AOG
is so internally focused.
[399] Goals #1, #2, and (especially) #4 are unclear: What are the
problems being addressed? I would also add goals related to the following
problems: 1. Unlike USMA's civilian "competitors" (e.g., the Ivy League),
USMA doesn't (can't?) directly address civilian career development. Yet
the majority of grads enter civilian careers at a young age, and virtually
all by middle age. AOG needs to address overall career issues, not just
those associated with Army careers. 2. The Army and the country suffer
as a result of the weak relationship between grads and the USAR. AOG should
study the relationship between its constituents and the Army Reserve: what
percentage enter drilling reserve status, barriers to doing so, etc. Where
appropriate, AOG should foster the relationship--a reserve section in Assembly,
etc.
[400] Acknowledging goal 3, continued emphasis on the values(concrete
and intangible)added to the American society by the USMA must be a significant
goal of the AOG.
[401] Career transition assistance should be a primary objective
of the organization.
[402] Don't believe the compensation of Employees is appropriate
for an annual goal.Board ought to be able to handle that.
[403] Goals #1, #2, and (especially) #4 are unclear: What are the
problems being addressed? I would also add goals related to the following
problems: 1. Unlike USMA's civilian "competitors" (e.g., the Ivy League),
USMA doesn't (can't?) directly address civilian career development. Yet
the majority of grads enter civilian careers at a young age, and virtually
all by middle age. AOG needs to address overall career issues, not just
those associated with Army careers. 2. The Army and the country suffer
as a result of the weak relationship between grads and the USAR. AOG should
study the relationship between its constituents and the Army Reserve: what
percentage enter drilling reserve status, barriers to doing so, etc. Where
appropriate, AOG should foster the relationship--a reserve section in Assembly,
etc.
[404] Encourage participation in reunions and other special events.
[405] BUT........ what OBJECTIVES have we set to achieve these GOALS?
Sounds like there are too many GOALS anyway.
[406] What about the graduates that are not in the military or retired
from the military?
[407] #3 is particularly good.
[408] The specific focus on the 'athletic project' ("Assist the WPF
in soliciting 2002 gifts, particularly those directed to the Army Athletic
Project.") is excessive. I've read the explanations in Assembly and can't
find a compelling reason for this kind of focus. I'd like to see it deleted.
[409] Why is goal 2 needed? Goal 7 is questionable, appears to be
self serving and may explain why goal 2 is needed.
[410] AOG employee benefits/compensation is an implied goal or any
organization, and should not be confused with the organizational goals.
[411] They appear focused on housekeeping and not accomplishments.
They need to be supportive of the Purpose Statement given in block 16
[412] Yes, but: Very general, not measurable, and generally require
more time than specified to achieve. What specifically are you going to
accomplish. I won't be able to tell if you are successful; how will you
know? What is in it for me? Like most graduates, I am no longer in the
Military, but want to ensure the Academy is successful. I usually donate
to AOG or USMA, but I don't even know where the money goes. I stopped getting
the Assembly, because I found, other than the general state of the Academy,
it had little information I was interested in.
[413] no 1 is too tough to measure to be viable. goal regarding member
services is too vague. missing a goal regarding promotion of academy image
and support to recruiting
[414] There are graduates in other services! Can't you rephrase your
AOG services tosupport those graduates still in military service and eliminate
the Army only phraseology.
[415] I don't remember a lot of emphasis being placed on AOG while
I was a cadet. This may have changed, but if not, I would encourage AOG
to develop a more identifiable program for introducing cadets to the purposes
and benefits of the AOG.
[416] The goals don't seem nested with the mission statement. They
don't seem to fully support furthering the ideals and welfare of USMA.
[417] I agree with all the goals except number 7. Items 1-6 are in
accordance with the "Outreach" function which is inherent in the association's
purpose. Item 7 is a "housekeeping" function, albeit something your employees
consider important, but one which I do not believe belongs in your goals
for the association. That should be listed on somebody's support form as
an objective, not a goal.
[418] Improve Assembly
[419] What other goals have been actively and/or seriously considered?
[420] The goals are fine insofar as they go. One additional goal
should be to facilitate communication between the graduates and the current
administration (Supe, Com, Dean, etc). In particular, I was struck by the
Superintendents recent letter in "The Assembly" complaining about the graduates'
views on women at USMA. His summarization of their complaints, listed as
the "Four F's", trivializes a serious issue. I would have been personally
insulted if I had made any arguments to him personally on the subject.
He is left with two problems which neither he nor others can explain. First,
someone (not the current Supe) changed the USMA mission. The change is
serious and significant. While it enables USMA to admit, educate and train
some very capable young ladies, it robs the Academy of its previous mission
to train officers for the combat arms. How does it then differ from ROTC
and other less expensive alternatives? In a time of belt tightening for
the Armed Forces, he'd better think about that unless he wants to be known
as the last Supe. Second, there are separate standards for men and women.
This is a fact of life whether it is stated or unstated. Presidents and
Congress cannot issue directives and legislation which modify Nature as
it unfolds. The Supe is in the embarassing position of being unable to
explain why it was so important for everyone to matricuate equally before
whereas it is somehow unimportant now. It is not enough to mention that
the women have outstanding academic and leadership records. No one challenges
that. Their presence in an institution which heretofore trained leaders
for the combat arms is a puzzling question for which he has provided no
answer. Nor do I believe he can provide an answer. The fact is that I wouldn't
want his job for anything. I think he is trapped in a time period where
he can do little else but carry on with the orders to integrate women into
the program with as little damage to USMA as possible. What I object to
is his trivialization of the arguments of the "old grads" reducing serious
arguments to slogans. As he deals with this political issue, he should
remember some sage political advice. That advice is, "don't lose your political
base." When all is said and done, most politicians in this current environment
will opt for expediency. If the Supe has to rally some support from the
"old grads", imagine how willing those he insulted will be to rally for
any cause. I think the Supe's remarks which were insulting were avoidable
with better communications. I can understand his frustration with a very
difficult situation, but don't insult your friends.
[421] Not sure what WPF is.
[422] ADD; Commission cadet graduates as Lts., Regular Army.
[423] Develop an AOG assistance package for those graduat