Q28: Are there any issues or policies about USMA or its direction which concern you?

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Over a third of the graduates who responded to the survey are concerned about issues that affect USMA.  
 
Number
Response 
Percentage
of Respondents
468
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9.07%
2797
No
54.23%
1893
Yes
36.70%
Total Processed: 5158

Additionally, the comments below have been categorized in the following manner:
 

 
General Category
Number 
Percentage
of Comments
Erosion of USMA traditions/standards
611
32%
Emphasis not military training/leadership
347
18%
Loss of grad RA commission
186
10%
Funding USMA
121
6%
Females at USMA
90
5%
SHift of core curriculum
90
5%
USMA sports programs
67
4%
Civilian faculty at USMA
55
3%
Less emphasis on combat arms training
52
3%
Too many cadets at USMA
25
1%
Thayer award
2
0%
Miscellaneous
261
14%
Total comments:
1907
 
 
 
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The following are the raw comments collected for this survey question.  The numbers serve only to identify the comment for this question and do not serve any other identification purpose:

[001]  Loss of Regular Commission upon graduation.

[002]  Was unaware that a new Mission Statement was being developed. Was unaware the mission had changed in any way requiring a new statement.

[003]  The lessening of discipline and respect that I perceive occurring among the Corps of Cadets in my contacts with the Academy and my friends still at the Academy. I do not believe this to be "old grad" talk and and I believe this is weakening the fiber of the officers being produced. I do not wish a return to the "Old Corps;" I would like to see an establishment of appropriate standards.

[004]  The new mission statement must clearly state that the Academy's purpose is to prepare officers for the Army, in addition to leaders of character for the nation. Additionally, I remain increasingly concerned that the Academic Board is out of touch with the decline of West Point's image and influence in the Army, a situation which can only be corrected by improved outreach (permanent faculty spending more time in the field; improved instructor recruitment, esp. in seeking and sponsoring good follow-on assignments for instructors; expanded networking on the part of academic departments -- esp with their "alumni").

[005]  There seems to be a preoccupation on making USMA like the "real army". That's like saying we should make the Pentagon like the "real army".

[006]  HONOR-There is a loss of the idea that the Honor Code belongs to cadets. Allowing the Supt. or DOD to override an Honor Board decision tells cadets that they really do not "own" it. Fourth Class System--the system should not be one which abuses Plebes, but I think some recent changes have gone too far. What is wrong with "pinging"? Except for an outstanding victory over Navy, why should Plebes be recognized before Graduation? Area Tours--I think work details are good if they are an occasional option, but they should not completely replace the Area. Area tours were an effective (and historic) punishment; they should not have been changed without a valid reason (and I don't think one was given).

[007]  See item 16.

[008]  Regular Army Commissions are a must!

[009]  I am a bit concerned that the Academy may be going too far in catering to the demands (or perceived demands) of female activists and accepting their accusations without argument. I could be wrong, this impression remains with me from circumstances surrounding the firing of the colonel who headed the leadership department.

[010]  The loss of RA status upon graduation.

[011]  We are trying to keep too many cadets in the Corps. It will bit us sooner or later to keep the Corps at 4,000.

[012]  Out of the loop in terms of direction, so I can not adequately comment.

[013]  West Point is not just another university. "Political Correctness" is dictating its direction and I'm afraid that it will no longer be turning out military leaders who will be able to effectively defend our nation. If there is no disctinction between USMA and ROTC, then West Point will have become obsolete and will cease to exist.

[014]  Emphasizing a lifetime career in the Army is unrealistic, given today's volatile manpower reductions. The meddling with the mission statement is useless.

[015]  Like all old grads, I see a softening of the WP environment which is sometimes reflected in the ability of younger grads to stand up to stressful situations.

[016]  ?????

[017]  As a "grumpy Old Man", I have for years failed to understand the mushrooming of classes and "majors" in various fields of study. As an example, one of the football players was listed as majoring in Engineering Management. What the heck is that?

[018]  With respect to major changes that take place at West Point from time to time, a good commander will solicit as much valid input as possible before making decisions affecting these changes. I cannot think of a better source of professional, knowledgeable input than the AOG, through it's membership. Nobody cares more about West Point than it's graduates!!

[019]  Trend towards a civilian institution. Lack of commitment in recent graduates. Promotion of a military academy concept.

[020]  Am aware that there has been some concern expressed regarding the dilution of the "West Point" experience by having fewer line officers included in the staff and faculty make-up. Don't know how true this may be, but would be very concerned if cadets were not being given the opportunity to learn from such officers since the first few years of commissioned service experience is a critical time for forming the path that new graduates will follow in their ensuing professional careers.

[021]  A trend toward a pure academic institution as opposed to a military academy. Idea is to produce career officers as opposed to Rhodes Scholars and graduate degree holders. The uniqueness of USMA is its difference from the Harvards, Yales, Vanderbilts, etc.

[022]  I've reveiwed the Goals and Mission Statement but haven't formulated an opinion. Can't say I have no concerns or do have concerns - I haven't considered this or discussed with others.

[023]  I'm concerned that we are no longer training military leaders, with an emphasis on combat readiness. We, like so many other institutions seem to be developing leaders for tomorrow .... to few of our cadets see the Military as a profession,... most see the academy as a stepping stone to civilian professional careers. Perhaps we should change the name to the United States "Leaders for the Nation" Academy - USLNA

[024]  I am concerned with making donations an intergral part of operations for the future Once you get this mindset in congress or even in the army leadership - it could be a road of no return whose ultimate destination in unknown

[025]  I agree with the notions that West Point should model the "Army way" of doing things. However, who ever said the "Army way" is the approved solution? Trying to completely mirror the Army I think is a mistake. Trying to make West Point ever more like a college is a mistake. The military everyday life-style I think is more and more absent from the Academy, along with the comradery among cadets that once was much more alive than it is now. Military instruction was always weak when I went through and I think continues to be weak.

[026]  1. Racial quotas for admissions. Quotas ("affirmative action") or any other unconstitutional device which promotes inequility are ethically and morally reprehensible. 2. Degradation of standards within the Corps.

[027]  I think the Academy is getting further away from the former goal/mission of providing officers for lifetime service to the nation.

[028]  Am somewhat concerned about the deterioration of the infrastructure at West Point. Those facilities that are easy for the public to see are fine; however, the delapitated condition of Camp Buckner and Lake Frederick is appalling. AOG should encourage classes to spend money upgrading some of those facilities. Imagine what the $1M being donated by the Class of 74 to the Thayer Walk project could do to renovate Buckner! Need to remember, the scouts carry an impression of West Point home with them. When they see how shabby Lake Frederick is, it gives them a perception that things at West Point may be like cotton candy - pretty to look at, but no substance.

[029]  Concerned about divisions in faculty, staff, alumni on issues such as women, "warrior" culture, etc

[030]  Getting too liberal

[031]  Too much emphasis on academic majors, not enough on Army service

[032]  Fight to keep USMA the way it has been with regular appointments after graduation

[033]  USMA trying to become like the Army or Civilian University.. If it loses its brand image, then why have it... Heard idea of doing away with long gray overcoat and Plebe Parent Weekend. Why not just call us the long green line.

[034]  What is the current mission of the Academy? Is that mission in the best interest of the country? Is the mission being diluted in the direction of decreasing the distinction of the Academy from a civilian university?

[035]  It seems to me that West Point has become a nice college, with a primary purpose of giving cadets a fine education, rather than an academy dedicated to a primary purpose of producing the human raw material that is required for the development of military leaders.

[036]  West Point is becoming too soft -- -- Early plebe recognition -- No Saturday classes -- Less rigorous summer training Stop diluting West Point's brand equity.

[037]  greater influence on morality and defining the meaning of "the harder right instead of the easier wrong" give examples and not let the general decline of morality of the US not taint our unique history

[038]  Fund Raising-most concerned that Congress will say that we don't have to fund the "xyz" project because the West Pointers will raise the money themselves. Now we get into the mess of non-appropriated money vs appropriated money. That has to be handled very carefully lest someone go to jail.

[039]  Think the Supe is making the best of a situation that's not too great - tight funds, denial of regular commissions.

[040]  Honor. Do not agree w/Supe having a veto power over the decisions of the cadet honor board. Honor should be black and white. Not gray. What are comming to?

[041]  This is a poor question, because it implies that you are either happy or concerned. I am not sufficiently familiar with the "issues and policies about USMA or its direction" to say I am happy with the direction of West Point, but , on the other hand, I cannot say I am concerned. From what I have seen and become aware, USMA is still producing fine graduates who contribute to the national defense. What more do we want?

[042]  I am concerned that the Supe wants graduates to make up funding shortfalls with their donations. It does not appear that the Supe takes his case any further than the Army Chief of Staff. He needs to get more closely involved with Congress. If the Supe does not get the funds he needs to maintain and improve the facilities and programs at WP he should take it to Congress and if needed, to the public Supes are on their final assignment----they should all perform their duties accordingly. Stand and be counted------------ The Supe should host one of the CofS, A's 4 star commanders meeting at West Point annually, preferably in the fall. This has been suggested before and not acted on---why?

[043]  Am concerned that the new LTs we are getting in the field are not prepared...many are very immature...require more discipline.

[044]  I sense the Corps and its commissioned staff are more apt to compromise on matters of honor now ... hope I am wrong. I sense that because the raw material "shows up" arguably less interested in honorable behavior, and the Academy wants to remain alive, those compromises are rationalized. Bottom line: "Why should we have a West Point?" will become harder and harder to answer in ways that make sense to thinking taxpayers.

[045]  Ensuring adequate federal funding

[046]  By second hand information (so I may be totally wrong here) I've heard that West Point traditions have been "altered" for this more "politically correct" age. I've been told that the lyrics of Army Blue and Benny Havens have been changed. This is a travesty!! If these songs no longer are appropriate, then let them go to an honorable place in our collective memory, but don't deface them by making them politically correct. I've also heard that "area tours" have been eliminated in favor of "beautification projects" and such. This is a shame. Area tours are the stuff that ties people together and supplies a lifetime of stories. Can you imagine graduates fifty years from now gathering to tell stories about planting flowers?!! I can hear it now...."You think that was tough, one semister, I had to plant 200 tulips!"

[047]  I am concerned that as the Military down sizes and the emphasis turns towards civilian leaders, that we will forget why USMA is the "Military Academy."

[048]  Continued relaxation of standards and privileges for cadets. Too many tenured instructors.

[049]  Again, my concerns are with the Active Military. It's difficult to encourage young people into such a career when quite frankly they can do better in other professions. I even saw an E-Mail from a Cadet's mother about concern over USMA Dental care. (Healthcare.org) Unfortunately I didn't get the full gist of it, and maybe it refered to a transitional overlap.

[050]  Too little military focus Not enough of an all round institution Attrition rate of recent grads is not good Self-less service is not enhanced as a goal Quality of tactical officers is lacking Future of officers who serve at WP is not promising

[051]  USMA needs to be a great academic institution first. Thats how we attract some of the best HS prospects in the country. Currently cadet academic performance is only weighted 55% of their QPA. I believe that is too low.

[052]  Getting away from producing "warriors" and becoming too PC and afraid of the Press. The "Hallums" thing really upset me. He was sent there to do a mission, and then punished for doing it without counseling/support from leaders.

[053]  Hallums affair poorly handled and communicated by the Supe. Mistress of the Sword?? Next it will be Infantry Company Commandtress

[054]  We still seem to be confused about whether we are a "college with a military training mission" or a "4-year OCS." The shifts in emphasis over the years, while perhaps understandable, are confusing.

[055]  Degradation of the 4th Class System Degradation of the Honor System

[056]  I wonder if it isn't time to reconsider the number of cadets. I realize that the plant is there and perhaps it is better to use it to capacity, but a smaller Corps might lead to more excellence and a better reputation.

[057]  I am deeply concerned that those in charge are being led down a "politically correct" path, instead of "choosing the harder right". I strongly oppose the civilianization of the teaching staff and the placement of female officers and civilians in positions where they are not qualified to serve. For example, the DBS&L should be staffed by male combat arms officers who are graduates of West Point with a sprinkling of Annapolis and Air Force Academy officers. Another example is the TAC Dept. TAC officers at all levels should be from the combat arms, be males and be graduates of USMA, USNA or USAFA. Otherwise, we just have another civilian university which happens to sit on a lovely point of the Hudson River and has really neat stone buildings. It's GETTING LATE!!

[058]  Steady erosion of standards to meet the need to crank out graduates to defend USMA budget: Congress's measure of effectiveness is number of graduates divided by annual budget. We have cheapened the process to get more graduates to increase the numerator to avoid cuts to the denominator.

[059]  I have mixed views about the efficacy of the Internet as a vehicle for getting input. This questionnaire is fine. Complaints about how the Supe handled the Professor of Military Psychology and Leadership (or whatever it is today) should not be weighed heavily. The Supe is in charge and has numerous others on the scene to advise him. We have a command structure with, hopefully, competent people in charge. I'm concerned that, if all the solicited and unsolicited views are weighed heavily, we will move toward anarchy. Listen to us old grads shouting, "The Corps has!", but put competent people in charge and support them as they deal with today's issues.

[060]  It does not appear that USMA is preparing each graduate for a lifetime of service in the army. Rather I feel it is just becoming another college. This could lead to the elimination of USMA as an undergraduate institution.

[061]  I'm a little concerned at what I see as a conservative trend in political thinking. Regardless of personal politics, the political arena increasingly has fewer persons with military experience. The officer corps must provide for similar diversity or risk being ignored at crucial times. Just my opinion. And worth about that much.

[062]  TOO much emphasis on the fitness preparation side. West Point should produce leaders for the long term--so intellectual and character develoment must not suffer. West Point need not be a four-year OCS. For example, the fact that the average male cadet can do 88 pushups and female cadets 44 is admirable, but not the ultimate objective. I can't imagine, a few decades ago, an environment in which blood pinnings is an accepted, if unauthorized, occurrence.

[063]  Repeal of the Regular Commission Exclusion Law Too much emphasis by the faculty on rapid attendence at Graduate School, so Cadets don't spend enough time being soldiers, but rather attend graduate school and then serve minimum time and depart the Army for higher paid jobs and fewer absenses from family. The Army needs to convince Congress to raise the pay of the men and women in the Armed Forces. I do not believe women should serve in Combat Arms.

[064]  1) I am concerned about what I can best describe as the civilianization of the academy. I do not consider myself a "hard-core old grad" but I feel that in order to make ourselves attractive to applicants we are watering down the very experience that both the Army and our society needs for our graduates to endure. I can't tell you how much I have come to appreciate what the Academy instilled ever since I became a civilian.

[065]  My brothers and I are fellow grads ('61,'70,'72) as was my father ('38) and we do talk among ourselves reference the direction and scope of training that USMA is offering its cadets. We understand that what w/ dollar constraints and all the "peace loving" politicians (most of whom haven't the foggiest idea of what their military has done and still does for them) wishing to loook like the drastic downsizing of our country's armed forces was/is their idea, that the quality of the military leaders produced by West Point, and yes, the other academies, continues to be the main thrust/goal of the academies. Has West Point ever had meetings of the minds w/ the other academies? We are all on the same high-wire act. Just thought that maybe you'd have thought of something like that?

[066]  I support women in the military and was proactive during my 29 years in the USAF. However , I believe the standards should be the same for both sexes if they are both to be eligible for the same duty. If the standards are not the same, the graduates should be identified by the standard they met and assigned duty accordingly.

[067]  Support from the nation

[068]  Nothing which will ever be resolved in the current political environment

[069]  USMA needs to focus on being a military academy and not a college. We have lots of colleges but only one USMA. The more USMA becomes another college the less relavent it becomes. To keep its place in life I feel that it needs to redirect its efforts towards the production of officers not history or chemistry majors.

[070]  I would be interested in knowing what efforts to instruct cadets about ethics are being taken by the Academy. Considering the disrepute that Lt Flinn brought on the Air Force and the Air Force Academy (in my opinion) I would hope that USMA is presenting a sound course on ethics.

[071]  Feminization of USMA and the Army. Lack of emphasis on the role of warfighter. General lowering of standards (physical, moral, and ethical) to accomodate politically correct outcomes.

[072]  I am concerned that USMA is not providing enough of the senior leadership of the army. We are spending so much effort on academic excellence that it is causing a drift from discipline, military training and standards. We need to return to providing REGULAR ARMY COMMISSIONS, and only in the combat arms.

[073]  I am concerned about maintaining the integrity of the Honor code. I have heard rumors that cadets can be "turned back" even after being found guilty of honor violations and that concerns me.

[074]  In all that I have read or heard about in the past two years, on the net, I am concerned about what I would call the civilizing of West Point to try and become an Ivy League clone. I feel that with the amount of army 2nd Lt slots available that perhaps the Corps is too large. I feel the dimunation of the combat arms requirements is a serious mistake. As I remember, a grad had to serve two years in a CA before a transfer to a CSC branch could be accomplished.

[075]  Believe Duty Honor Country are integral to any expression of the Academy's mission or purpose.

[076]  I comment on those directly as an Academy Professor and will save you the space here.

[077]  The change in commissioning and the trend to change the West Point systems that have existed for years.

[078]  I am concerned about reductions in standards for discipline and too many efforts to go with the political correctness of society and my son's who are graduates in recent years have given me plenty of information on which to base this view.

[079]  1. Abolishment of the 4th Class system 2. Changes to honor code implementation 3. The ever-increasing appointment of faculty members who are not graduates 4. The appointment of a non-graduate woman as the Master of the Sword, a position which is so closely connected with the combat, warrior ethic 5. The general directiion of discarding proven past policies and traditions

[080]  I am concerned that Beast Barracks has lost some of it's toughness.

[081]  Early Out programs for younger Grads Changing DPE requirements Loss of certain USMA traditions

[082]  See comments above

[083]  Degree of emphasis on a military career as opposed to whatever the hell it is they're offering now in the curriculum--trying to outdo USNA & USAFA?

[084]  "Old Grads" are never totally happy with the direction that West Point is heading. While I realize USMA must adjust to stay current with changes in society, I am concerned that the fundamental concepts that have been the bedrock of West Point over many decades are being eroded. I have the same concerns about the Army that today's graduates are joining. I feel strongly that male graduates should join the combat arms for a minimum of two or three years. We have to convince the American public that USMA must be retained as an institution -- that our graduates bring more to the Army than an ROTC or OCS graduate. We can't do that by continuing to become more and more liberal and more like a civilian college.

[085]  Stop being so politically correct.

[086]  Developing a paper

[087]  I believe that the Academy has become too politically correct and has not paid proper attention to the necessities of a "rite of passage" for the plebes.

[088]  grads should be regular officers

[089]  Lack of regular commission. Apparent deempasis on combat arms which are our reason for being. Should offer some form of graduate courses for cadets who come with college credit, but NOT turn USMA into grad school or portion thereof.

[090]  Gradual erosion of the total system; for example, I just heard that now cadets do not have dinner formations, having many different options. I am sure there are other changes which would not impress me, also.

[091]  WARRIOR ETHOS AND HOW TO PROMOTE IT IN A DIVERSE WORLD-ARE WE SUCCEEDING? IF NOT, IT SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.

[092]  RA commissiong

[093]  The Mission! We've gotten too far away from producing leaders for the Army. As a result we are creating young officers with little dedication to the army or their soldiers. We must not forsake quality for quantity.

[094]  RA Commissions. Degree of integration of females. Softening of soldierly virtues. Orientation of newcomers in the academic versus the tactical unit leadership styles. Funding necessary functions by fund-raising.

[095]  I do not support using USMA as a social laboratory. I believe decisions should be based upon how USMA reflects society rather than is the forebearer of social evolution. I recognize changes will occur, but let changes occur to catch USMA up with society rather than the converse.

[096]  I have some concerns that I do not wish to describe in this brief opportunity.

[097]  yes, intersession is a total waste of time. Go back to MS classes being a full year program. You can not teach a semester long course in less than two weeks and expect quality retenion of the material. If that were the case, then why not take physics, or math, or any other academic class during intersession? - - Because the "academcis" that make the rules realize that intersession is a poor quality instructional tool. I am sure there are not too many PAP's that would apporve of their classes being taught on an interssion schedule. In addition to intersession being a poor instructional tool, how / wjhy shoudl we exepct the cadets to have a military focus / committment? In effect, what we say by condoning intersession is that the military classes take a back seat to academics. That is the wrong way to approach military instruction at a military academy. Cadets should have a miltary focus throughout the entire academic year, not just during intersession.

[098]  The corps image athletics discipline

[099]  Am very concerned that West Point is in danger of becoming "just another college." The mission statement is awful, and the dramatic increase in civilian faculty has us well on the way to being another Annapolis of USAFA. We are an academy for the ground combat service -- we MUST have higher standards. Our mission statement MUST reflect producing officers for the US Army. We must NOT produce future stockbrokers and english majors, but well-rounded Army officers.

[100]  I'm a bit concerned that USMA is being "sucked into" the politically correct vacuum. USMA was and should always be about producing military leaders. Any other byproducts (i.e. success in civilian spheres. . .) should be icing on the cake. Don't confuse the icing with the cake!

[101]  The purpose of West Point should be to develop Regular Army Officers who intend to have a career thru retirement in the Army. USMA is not a standard University/College and its standards and original policies should not be changed to succumb to political pressures and why can't we be like other schools.

[102]  Hopless as it probably is, I would like to see the elimination of girls at West Point. I don't think the strength of The Corps should be reduced. Everything else is probably in good hands

[103]  Army may be a fine college, but its image is tarnished by poor performance on the athletic field.

[104]  We need to develop leaders for the Army, period. I sincerely believe we've gotten too soft. Any grad, no matter when they graduated, will tell you "the Corps has...". When I left active duty 6 months ago, I was shocked at the product USMA was sending the active Army; a poor sense of duty and responsibility; little ownership of their actions; soft; poor managers. They seemed to lack the traits that have been the stock and trade of USMA grads.

[105]  I have some nit picks; but am not up in amrms like so many of my classmates. I see most of the Supe's problems coming from inside the DC beltway and from the hinterlands. The Corps may be getting too lax; however. That will be a problem the next Supe will have to solve.

[106]  The mission statement of USMA needs to be discussed further.

[107]  See my comments earlier.

[108]  1. Loss of Regular Army Commissions. 2. Lack of dedication to life time service. 3. Apparent lowering of standards. 4. Lack of Combat arms service requirement. 5. Politically correct approach toward military service.

[109]  We seem to be watering down discipline and the honor code.

[110]  Maintaining the identity of the Academy. Civilianization and elimination of traditions (regardless of weather they be deemed as good or bad, ie Area Tours) continue to weaken the strands of continuity of the Academy thus reducing the common bond. In fact, as a graduate of 1994, I feel that I am an "outsider" when in the presence of prior classes. I have a great respect for the graduates from decades ago which is not the same for present graduates. I wanted to go through a "tougher" program. Too many graduates who do not adequately represent the ideals of the Academy have and will continue to graduate. For example, my roommate at AG OBC ended up being a criminal. He stole a laptop computer, my credit card, bribed an officer, etc. Though he went to Leavenworth, he is now in or out of Graduate school and wearing his ring. I went through Warrant Officer Candidate School in 1988 and became a pilot. They told us that they were going to do in 6 weeks what it takes West Point 4 years to do. I was thoroughly impressed with the program and to this day, it is the toughest program I have ever participated in in my 9.5 years in the Army. I was very disspointed in the degree of difficulty from a military perspective. Diversion from tradition seems to give Congress more and more reasons to eliminate Academy funding since it is beginning to be incorrectly compared to no different than an intense ROTC program. Sorry for rambling, but I know that if I had not experienced some of these bad things, I would have a much stronger feeling of a bond within the corps. Granted, some of the strongest friendships and bonds in my life are a result of my experience at the Academy and I would not trade any of it for the world. However, I feel the bonds have become decentralized to personal friendships more than a centralized corps bond. I would be happy to elaborate on my beliefs. Feel free to call at (617) 868-0094.

[111]  I am concerned about the reduction of the unique "West Point" experience being overtaken by the desire to reflect more of the Army in the day to day cadet life. I'm not happy with what I perceive to be the Administration's desire to make West Point more like an Army unit rather than a military academy. To cite a small but telling example, I don't like seeing the cadets wearing BDUs to class on a regular basis.

[112]  Pursue return of Regular Army commission for graduates.

[113]  I can't believe you would make a statement like "West Point cannot fufill its goal as it is underfunded. West Point needs contributions to meet its goal." If that's the case, close it down.

[114]  Dedication to core (no pun intended) values Maintaining independent non-ROTC program

[115]  The statement draft that I saw was misdirected, in my judgement, by being more directed toward a politically correct approach than being specific about the mision to develop combat-branch officers with deep-seated ethics and a desire for service to teh Nation.

[116]  You have got to be kidding! Not aware? C'mon.

[117]  The lack of focus on combat leaders I am diturbed to see that a large number of graduates leave West Point and are focused imediately on leaving the service. I also see a large number of graduates branching into non-combat arms branches. We need to promote doing the harder right (going into the combat arms, attending ranger school) and not the easier wrong of branching into a CS or CSS role. (Especially male cadets)

[118]  Regular Commissions for Graduates Return of basic curriculum and away from majors Civilian instructors/professors Commissioning in non-combat branches Provide separate Academy for women Reduce size of USMA to fit size of Army

[119]  I do not have enough facts to answer this properly.

[120]  All things that move away from a warrior focus concern me. WP should be producing the Nation's Best leaders for battle. I consider it the Raison d'Etre

[121]  Talking to cadets/graduates of both sexes indicates that the public image that the Corps is fully "integrated" by sex is a sham. We need to face the problems and fix them. I am not as familiar with racial difficulties, but I'd guess they exist, too. Fix it.

[122]  Source of appointments to USMA. Requirements for admission to USMA.

[123]  Increasing use of civilian instructors, and going too far from a basic engineering education, whatever one's specialty.

[124]  I am not sure if the Academy is still instilling the selfless service/warrior ethic in its graduates. I have seen several come through the Ranger School (where I work) that expect the class to be handed to them. There is a not the responsibilites for their own actions I expected to see from Academy graduates.

[125]  Makin sure it stays relevant to the needs of the Army More faculty involvement with mainstream Army

[126]  Don't know where its heading.

[127]  Whatever

[128]  Stop the semantics. Simple and to the point. Why are we changing?

[129]  everything done at West Point conceerns me

[130]  Am opposed to using ANY West Point Fund money for projects which should be supported by appropriated funds. This is a slippery slope which erodes forever appropriated fund support for West Point. NO PROJECT is so important that it can't wait in line for appropriated funding. AOG will get no further contributions from me if it crosses this line.

[131]  losing its unique status as a national asset for graduating leaders with character and devotion to the country.

[132]  The current political and military environment is typical of past peacetime periods. Please do not allow the short sighted to drive West Point into extinction. History suggests that we may someday again require military leaders of high character and ability. Until such time, find any way possible to maintain the capacity to develop leaders at West Point. It is a great program. Our business community is in short supply of the same type of individual demanded in combat. It may be tough to justify the federal dollars, but we can use the grads who do their 5 and drive.

[133]  Increasing civilianization of faculty.

[134]  Why is it OK for everybody to join support branches? Look at the role models the cadets have for their professors and TACs...quartermasters, air defenders, ordnance. What the hell is going on up there? Somebody needs to take a little trip over to Mac statue and read the inscription about how "yours is the profession of arms, the will to win." Let OCS and ROTC worry about supplying the geeks to run the support units.

[135]  I feel that in today's society, a greater emphasis needs to be placed on a person's values. Thus, emphasizing the need for leaders that possess the values desired by the Academy and the Army is an issue that I think should be addressed. USMA must produce men and women who possess inordinate amounts of moral courage and conviction!

[136]  We frequently hear that Congress (and/or staff members) are conerned about cost of USMA and does USA really need the Service schools. Included in these concerns are comments/data that West Point graduates do not provide their appropriate share of senior officers. The image, if not the facts, is that ROTC and other officer sources are providing better senior officers at less cost. If this is not the case AOG should provide hard statisical data refuting and USMA/AOG should get the word out. If this adverse image is correct, USMA with AOG support should determine why this is? There are many AOG members who think the solution is to elimate most electives from the cirriculum and go back to teaching leadeship.

[137]  USMA no longer requires strict discipline - has become "soft". Honor code not rigidly applied. Academics have higher priority than military

[138]  Yes, as mentioned above, the politicalization of the army really got underway during the Korean War and has continued to this day. Viet Nam was a clear example (read "Dereliction of Duty" H.R. McMaster, '84).Of all institutions, USMA must be steadfast and truthful in what it does and how it does it. Duty, Honor, Country doesn't mean much if one then bows to some fashionable political theory that at a later date, on other fields, will bear the fruits of defeat.

[139]  Do not lose focus of the academy. Do not make it into an expensive ROTC. Do not generalize the mission statement, taking away from the founding purpose of the academy.

[140]  USMA must not loosen its regulations to the point where it becomes to easy to compare the freedoms afforded cadets to those of civilian counterparts. Too much freedom begs the question, "Why not just fund ROTC?"

[141]  Not enough emphasis on military service and leadership. Too much on civilian service to the U.S. One can follow the other, but military must have the priority.

[142]  concerned about soldier-scholar vs. techie debate. Seems to be a lack of emphasis on the hard right (duty-honor-country) than the easier wrong (consideration of others, political correctness).

[143]  Like many others, I'm extremely troubled by the revocation of the RA status for all graduates. When you sacrifice four years doing the hardest that the Army has to offer, you should get some reward. Taking away the RA commission sends a signal to prospective candidates that West Point is just another ROTC program.

[144]  See my item #17.

[145]  I am extremely concerned about the few grads who remain in the Regular Army. I went to USMA since I felt (and still do!) that it is the best way to become an officer. The grads I have worked with in the Army either seem to follow that course, or in the great majority, view USMA as a 4 year scholarship to a prestigious college. The recent (beginning when I was a cow) changes in the mission statement only further eviscerate any ideas that USMA is to produce career officers, and not politically correct managers.

[146]  I'm not sure that I agree with the "kinder, gentler" West Point. While I am not the old "Corps has" type, I do know that combat is still a very stressful, ugly affair, and that West Point is still responsible for producing officers to lead our nation in battle.

[147]  Since LTG Palmer was Superintendent, USMA has lost its focus of providing combat leaders to the US Army. Instead we are focused on political correctness of providing weak liberal arts majors and not making it "too hard" for the cadets. We've dropped military science as a part of the normal curriculum, reduced discipline, and created a glorified, over priced ROTC program. We need to get back to focusing on the whole "person", stressing military science, math, and enginering. Otherwise it is only a matter of tie before the taxpayers are convinced they are not getting their money's worth.

[148]  My perception is that USMA is getting away from developing combat leaders and striving for social correctness. USMA should be developing combat leaders-not social politicians.

[149]  Gender inequality - lowered standards for females Racial preferences Non-combat arm assignment at graduation Allowing attendance at medical school immediately after graduation, instead of having the graduate fulfill combat arms service, first. Large number of foreign cadets Allowing sports team participants to have special classes prior to all the other cadets. Allowing cadets to fail courses, and then take remedial classes and graduate later. Drifting away from the main mission of the academy; to train people for combat branches.

[150]  1. Regular Officer status of graduates. 2. Efforts to extend retention of graduates.

[151]  --The cadets need to be proficiently skilled at basic military tasks such as land navigation, marksmanship, small unit mission planning, and decision-making. The Department of Military Instruction should be filled with our best leaders to provide role models and instruction. --The football program is being pulled into the professionalization of Division I college athletics. We should be competing against schools of equivalent size and mission. It is time to produce a winning program at the Division I-AA level. If we insist on playing against Division I universities, then allow athletes to serve their commitments in alternative methods.

[152]  I believe I ahve stated them above.

[153]  Lack of respect for War Heroes cp. Wall Street Journal article within last year describing feminist rout of a Colonel because he was " too macho."

[154]  Fund raising from private sources is likely to prevent adequate funding from DA.

[155]  That present cadets and graduates may not be living up to the traditions established by those in the past. Probably it is "the Corps has" syndrome which is exacerbated by modern communications.

[156]  1-Mission of USMA should once again be to graduate combat arms officers. 2-No graduate should be sent to post-graduate education until they've proven that they have potential by serving at least 3yrs inititial assignment. 3-I am increasing concerned about academy graduates who say they did not realize what would be expected of them after graduation,ie, grad who was doctor and refused to go to Gulf War and later was court-martialed for standing nude in company street in Saudi and recently female grad who placed priority on breast feeding baby over obligation for service. Academy needs redoubled effort to insure cadet fully understand and embrace ideas of selfless service and country before self. 4- No need for grad school at USMA. Plenty of superb schools to provide what we need.

[157]  1. Perceived diminution of the warrior ethic 2. Insufficient focus on combat arms orientation

[158]  West Point is being converted into a typical civilian university with tenure, etc. It is a MILITARY ACADEMY and should be run by compotent military officers at all levels. In the last Army Navy Game I saw no "killer instinct". Where did it go?

[159]  I am concerned over the departure from the time-honored traditions of the cadet experience that have resulted in the respect for the Academy and its graduates in the eyes of the American public and the world. I often wonder if this departure is rooted in the desire to curry favor from the public to prove that we are not as bad as anti-military people claim. It takes a generation to discover if major changes in an educational system have yielded the desired results. Our test comes on the field of battle......a dangerous place to discover that the changes were ill-advised. I am also concerned that if we begin to assume the aura of a civilian college, we may be providing ammunition to those who have been interested in turning West Point into something other than it is.

[160]  Tired of seeing the majority of money raised by AOG going to Sports functions. There are several other cadet clubs and Departments that could use money to further a military education.

[161]  The shift away from strict discipline and commissioning combat arms officers will hurt our military in the long run. USMA should continue to train leaders for our country, but their immediate purpose should be to prepare leaders for our Army.

[162]  For what I know it seems to be heading in the right direction, although I don't think that we are doing a good job at selling its worth to Congress.

[163]  I am very concerned about the perceived (by me) demilitarization of West Point and its apparent concern about being a PC University to the detriment of its role as a producer of COMBAT LEADERS.

[164]  The idea of producing leaders for careers in the Regular Army needs to be revived.

[165]  Male and Female cadets should not be housed together. Training should not be together. They obviously have different capabilities and lowering standards is not a reasonable solution.

[166]  regular army commissions combat arms honor system allowing cadets toparticipate in the mission statement (inmates in control)

[167]  Standards, Standards, Standards - High and equal for all.

[168]  I do not approve with the winter intersession that focuses only on MS 100-400 classes. I beleive that Corps should have military training class all year long. Additionlly, I feel that the Academy is trying to compete with the Ivy leagues schools for canidates instead if canidates that want to serve their country.

[169]  See response to AOG goals question above.

[170]  I am still not convinced that the academic trends toward other top colleges (majors, etc.) is the way to go. Different school, different purposes. Make the academy just like another, but more expensive Harvard/Stanford/Yale/MIT, and it'll lose its reason for being. It may actually go away. If you doubt this, look at the decision to award reserve commissions. I am concerned about the drive in some quarters to create a "graduate school USMA" (see recent Assembly debate.) Don't lose sight of what the academy's for. I'm also concerned that the assignment to faculty at the academy has become a career negative for soldiers attempting to stay in the chase for battalion command. One result is the very high proportion of CSS officers among the faculty. Another is a severe dilution of the "warfighter mentality" that I remember and treasure. Political correctness, as severe at USMA as at anywhere else in the country I have seen, is another result. The cadets are much less fragile than the faculty and administration seem to imagine, or if they're not, they're in for one helluva rude awakening when they get to the Army.

[171]  Concerned about the training being given relative to the role of females in the service. Clearly, there are significant problems in the military today and I am not sure that the cadets are being adequately trained. I was particularly upset when a representative from West Point attended our Founder's Day Meeting and suggested that it was very appropriate to court-martial "whistleblowers." Somehow, I suspect the faculty at West Point may have lost sight of the item we swore to protect and preserve when we graduated - - The Constitution.

[172]  The institution sees itself as more important than the individuals that make it up -- a very un-American idea. USMA is too introspective and self-absorbed; more concerned with self-justification than adapting to the needs of the Army and the Nation.

[173]  We need to Beat Navy!

[174]  Although I have no evidence other than gut feel, I believe the standards at USMA have become lower. I think this stems from the more liberal honor policy that exists now (Class of 78 issue).

[175]  The Army and West Point are drifting away from a war-fighting ethos.

[176]  I understand the Supe's message given to us at our 15th reunion. The money issue is understood given the climate in government today. However, I was somewhat concerned with the move towards a more open campus in overall terms. The Supe's reasoning was the Academy needed to change to recruit cadets more effectively. However, I fear that removing some of the discipline from the Academy may make the Academy just another college. If the Academy loses the distinction of being unique, it also risks losing it's reason for existance. I am not saying that we need to maintain tradition for tradition's sake, but solid leadership training and discipline are what makes West Point different.

[177]  Just the current overall attitude toward the military and the Academy that seems to be coming out of Washington.

[178]  -Elimination of the area as a punishment and replacement with "labor" and other such details (not in favor of it) -Keeping cadet captains above company command in place all year (reduces opportunities of others) -Recognizing Plebes at Spring break ... too early -Optional meals/unlimited fast food availability (loss of comradrie/tradition/nutrition);increase debt -Mandatory charges to cadets for Eisenhower Hall performances when many cannot/do not attend; yet still requiring them to pay for more popular events -Inability of cadets and their guests to get priority for Hotel Thayer seating/reservations on weekends unless they have large groups -Increased use of cadets to do police/clean-up details -Use of the USMA prep school almost exclusively for athletic recruiting and/or minority & regular Army recruiting vice better mix of more talented applicants -Proposed changes in beast barracks/4th class system to eliminate many "traditional" activities simply because they are not directly tied to Army standards and/or activities -Failure to permit cadets to where short overcoats or appropriate warm uniforms to early fall sports and other activities when the weather has already turned cold -Overemphasis on forcing women and minorities into leadership positions vice selecting best qualified -Scramble of the cadets after 2 years (on balance, costs outweigh benefits) -Not permitting cadets to use checks and/or credit cards at the cadet mail room -Elimination of real newspapers to most cadets -Toleration of homosexuality when indications tantamount to "telling" are discovered -Inconsistency in disciplinary practices when such practices affect women, minorities, and/or certain groups such as athletes, emerging or serving leaders

[179]  The need for private funding for cadet activities and facilities.

[180]  Liability of too large a Corps Loss of warrior ethic Impact of women on the institution What happened to the honor code? Declining retention

[181]  This is probably not the forum for this, but.... Not walking the area concerns me. Generally disappointed with the Corps' rendering of customs and courtesies at homecoming this year. I think it is too "progressive". I guess I'm becoming an "Old Grad" after all.

[182]  l. No RA commissions2. Assignment to other than combat arms. 3. optional curriculum. 4 lowering of standards. 5 AND ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT. Civilianization of the instructors. 6. Size of the Academy. 7 Move toward "Joe College" atmosphere--this is slightly different than 4 above.

[183]  In my view, West Point is no longer the United States MILITARY Academy and has NOT been for many years. Poor retention of young fine graduates in the Army coupled with a change in the USMA Mission ("to provide leaders for the Nation") have undermined what used to be the nation's finest MILITARY Academy. I think the responsibility for undermining the MILITARY Academy lies with: *A number of former Supes. *The DA Staff (including the Chief of Staff of the Army) *A consistent "push" to try to keep the size of the Corps of Cadets at the 4800 level when there have NOT been sufficient "ARMY" slots to accomodate all of the fine young men and women who have "worn-the grey" for about the last 20 years. I think the name, USMA, should be changed to: << The United States Leadership College (USLC) >>

[184]  I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE US GOVT WANTS AN ACADEMY TO TRAIN LEADERS FOR THE US MILITARY THEN THEY SHOULD FULLY SUPPORT THE EFFORT IN EVERY WAY INCLUDING FULL FUNDING. dROP THE SIZE OF THE INSTITUTION IF FUNDING IS THE PROBLEM

[185]  USMA needs to train predominantly combat arms officers to win our wars. There is too much of a focus on "Leaders of character to serve our nation." The senior level instructors at the academy need to be MILITARY OFFICERS who have served in senior command positions. How many department heads have ever commanded a battalion?

[186]  The COM talked about the respect training. I think cadetettiquette (sic) is fine and he can spend his time better elsewhere.

[187]  Yes, I am concerned about how well prepared the new Graduates are for life as an officer. I believe that we could help the Supe in developing the necessary programs to develop young officers.

[188]  Encroachment of "political correctness" in policies governing cadet development.

[189]  I am concerned of a general slide away from instilling a warfighting spirit in the cadets. We must produce warriors. It does not matter what sex they are...they must be selfless and combat oriented.

[190]  I am concerned that USMA frads do not receive the initial Regular Army appointment. As a former PMS, a see this as the first step to raising the questions "Why have USMA? Can we do it 'cheaper' via ROTC?"

[191]  - Honor Code: I've heard that some violations within the first two years are dealt with "slugs" as opposed to dismissal. I am (as most graduates are) strongly against any degradation to the honor code and the consequences of violating it.

[192]  I remain very concerned about the implications of mixed gender training within the military at large. Since this issue has been "settled" within our current culture it seems futile to press the point with regard to West Point. Nonetheless the Corps has since 1976, in my Neanderthal opinion, lost much of its potential to prepare and provide combat leaders for our nation. This great loss will not be seen or acknowledged until we need those leaders and they are not to be found.

[193]  the academic cir. "appears" to be continuing to lean more towards liberal arts and away from a solid engineering background

[194]  Concerned with the Admissions process. I hope we do not compromise student quality for political correctness (ie goals).

[195]  Seems that 90% of the grads today are looking to get out at the end of their committment. Hmmm??

[196]  Failure to focus on military aspects of curriculum.

[197]  I believe USMA should refocus on producing warrior leaders.

[198]  Proactive process is bogus. It seems that decisions have been made and than grad opinion sought (manipulated) to support a pre-existing bias.

[199]  RA vs USAR commission; recruiting and admitting athletes who do not meet the standards (academically) for other non-corps squad cadets; minority recruiting as a quota-like system, emphasis on fund-raising over other AOG missions; decrease in internalization of honor concept.

[200]  (1) "Friendly Points" system instituted by DPE this past fall. How it started, how it changed,and how it ended bothered me because of the message it sends cadets. (2) New Cmdt's vision to make USMA like the ARMY. Views that "fourth class system" traditions are outdated and do not add to leadership development are shortsighted and it seems this Cmdt feels no accountability just the desire to change. I have not been impressed with his leadership or judgment.

[201]  I'd like to see curriculum focused on foreign languages, foreign policy, international studies and military studies. USMA cadets should be the be the best LTs in the system because of superior training. I don't think we do that now.

[202]  Not aware of direction, so couldn't comment

[203]  I am very concerned that the AOG and USMA are abrogating the MISSION funding responsibility. My read on the Sup's latest call for Graduate support for construction is that Former Sup's were not diligent in their stewardship of USMA. This is very strange considering the quality of permanent professors, associates, and staff provided for USMA.

[204]  I recently wrote to the Editor of Assembly commenting on an article written in a past issue. The article gave the impression that the disciplinary (Plebe) system is being 'watered down' "The Corps has". I am aware that the 'system', life at West Point, the "West Point Experience" has to change to be relevant to the times, but I am afraid that we may be going too far. I closed my letter with the comment that, if we continue on the current track, West Point may soon be just another college where the students happen to wear uniforms. Graduates before my class had a more difficult life at W.P. than we did, folks who attended after my class ('59) had life easier than we did. I suppose this is normal, but where does it end? West Point grads are supposed to be something special. Why? I always thought it was because of the tough, demanding, regimented life we led as cadets. If this goes away, and it appears that it is, then what is left?

[205]  My experience with recent grads in my last years of active duty was not good. Most were shithouse lawyers who were more concerned with their perceived rights - like an 8 hour workday in a tank battalion - than doing their duty. Current grads are not worth the cost of the Academy.

[206]  It seems that USMA is trying to become a more "mainstream" educational institution rather than setting itself apart as the Nation's Military Academy. Academics at the Academy should be Top-Notch, however emphasis on creation of strong, focused military leaders and a "Spartan" military ethos should remain which causes cadets and the Nation to internalize Duty, Honor, Country. If USMA does not stand out in the crowd, then I do not believe that the American public will continue to support its existence.

[207]  Athletics continues to be a shortfall. The focus on increasing the academic acceptance standards is good, but I do not understand why USMA cannot recruit better athletes. I realize that I have no knowledge about the contracts for the coaches. However, if the contracts are not incentive based i.e. win/loss records; post-season play etc. the contracts should be rewritten. Confident coaching staff should readily accept the challenge since that is what they are requesting of their teams every day. Any coach not interested in a performance contract should be replaced. It just is not good enough to beat Navy in order to keep a job.

[208]  1. I was distressed to see that there is a new Brigade Staff position called the Cadet Respect for Other Captain, or something to that effect. I hope that these values are an integral part of the chain of command, rather than some additional duty or appendage to the chain of command. This is a leadership function, not a staff function.

[209]  The usual old grad complaints about "the Corps has." This is perhaps inevitable considering the requirement to keep West Point a top academic institution at the same time as a training ground for officers.

[210]  All of the Academies will be losing Congressional support in the years to come as the number of veterans in the House and Senate drops to zero. Accordingly, they will have to be able to back up their claims that they graduate the best and set the standard for all officer acquisitions. We cannot claim that at present due to the unhealthy emphasis on Division 1 sports. Let's drop to Division 2 or 3 where we can compete with true student/athletes and not have a large cohort of substandard cadets who are eroding standards for the Academy.

[211]  I am very concerned about USMA. Frankly I am not very sanguine about its prospects. I do not hear any voices that reflect my, and many of my fellow graduates' concerns. I know of no sound reason for changing USMA's mission, etc. Why should cadets go into non-combat arms on graduation? Why are not grades posted weekly for all to see? Why are there different physical standards for male and female cadets? I believe combat is closer to football than field hockey; notwithstanding the "Sunday morning talk show" view that combat is now largely a technological challenge. Enough. Even long retired graduates who share my views are unwilling to speak up.

[212]  I'm am concerned with a small movement within the political world to do away with the academies. The drive is based upon the cost models being compared with ROTC costs. Obviously flawed because ROTC costs only show actual scholarship cost while USMA costs include the associated training costs as well.

[213]  Concerned about increased reliance on private funding. Are we equipped to solicit major sponsorships -- unrecognized sponsorships -- from leading US corporations and wealthy individuals?

[214]  4th Class System Overall discipline of the corps

[215]  For some time now I have gotten the impression that the Academy has been far more succesful in ultimately producing doctors and lawyers. Though these are admorable professions, the purpose of the Academy is to produce exceptionally high quality leaders for the Armed Forces.

[216]  Concerned that USMA may be getting too "politically correct". Admission should be based on level standards, without goals for affirmative action considerations, or other factors. Have heard horror stories about recruited (minority) athletes who could not meet basic academic or ethical standards. We don't need our own USNA stolen car, drug, or sexual harrassment incidents. Admitting quality cadets is still the best way to accomplish the USMA mission.

[217]  Although the Superintendent and the Commandant have been persuaded that the abolition of the fourth class system is justified (and thus they have carefully dismantled most of it), I am unaware of any effort to communicate to graudates other than the staff and faculty why what we endured as cadets is no longer useful (or why what is being done now is somehow better). Perhaps the fourth class system was outdated and deserved to be eliminated, but one clear result of that move is that West Point looks much more like any college ROTC program.

[218]  1. Priority one should be academics. The best way to produce quality leaders is to provide them with the opportunity to learn and grow intellectually.

[219]  This question is misleading. I can have no concerns and still not be happy.

[220]  Political correctness versus what is really best for USMA in the long run.

[221]  I don't have the detail necessary to answer this.

[222]  Keep the program demanding and do not cave in to "politically correct" programs. USMA should create warfighters.

[223]  From what I gather, USMA is trying to have its graduates be leaders in the Army of the future. I believe that USMA is heading in the right direction, is not afraid to try something new, and is willing to make mistakes along the way. I find this refreshing and exciting. An institution that does not change will perish. As long as we preserve our core values, we will continue to be a great institution into the next century and beyond. USMA is changing yet preserving.

[224]  Despite legislation, want to ensure USMA keeps a high percentage of military on the faculty.

[225]  Undecided at this time..

[226]  Civilianization of the faculty shouild not be over-done. The Naval Academy model should not be emulated. USMA graduates will be better imbued with the spirit of the Academy motto if they have the role models found in a military faculty.

[227]  Seems to me that the Supe's principal priorities are on new athletic facilities. While nice to have, this probably is not the highest priority.

[228]  Need better communication about what direction it is really heading. Maybe need to see the staff and faculties goals

[229]  Ongoing viability of USMA.

[230]  o Real or perceived "drift" of the focus of USMA from the needs of the Army to adequately provide for defense of the nation and national security -- too much concern for "politically correct" social engineering policies that detract from the higher purpose of providing leaders for the Army. o The military focus of senior USMA faculty -- Academy Professors and PUSMAs -- losing touch with the "operational Army" and the issues/challenges facing the Officer Corps "in the field."

[231]  The proposed USMA Mission statement is too focused on a career in the military rather than a life time of service to the nation. I did make a career of the military but many of my classmates did not but do great things for our country. Cadets are not mature or knowledgeable enough to decide if a career in the Army is what they want.

[232]  I really only learn of changes at WP from Classmates who are teaching there or have gone back to visit. I would really like more insight on cirriculum, privileges, plebe requirements and just the daily cadet life stuff.

[233]  Yes. We do not academically challenge cadets with anywhere near the same course load today that we did 25-30 years ago. Why? My son at Colo School of Mines, a premier engineering school, requires 169 credit hours and a very demanding curriculm of technological courses to graduate. Why don't we put back into the CLED equation a greater academic load? The Borman Commission and EE302 scandal were 20 years ago. Things have changed in many ways at West Point. The mental stresses on cadets are reduced from prior generations. Cadets graduate with a major with only 130 hrs. Some critical technological courses we used to have crammed down our throats, like it or not (like medicine) are no longer required couses for all cadets (eg.,, thermodynamics and electrical engineering), yet today, technological knowledge is more essential and absolutely required to be a great officer. Cadets come to West Point today, despite tremendous opportunity for exposure to world geography via modern media and computers, yet they have at best a 1950s 5th or 6th grade level of knowledge of the world's countries, oceans, rivers, and mountains. They are not taught world geography. Why not? When they are told they may fight in Bosnia, most do not even know where that country is at. It is attrocious that an officer in our Army and graduate of West Point does not know that Siberia is in Russia, or that El Salvador is in Central America, or that Somalia is on the East Coast of Africa. Graduates of West Point comprise 60% of the Army officers with technical educational backgrounds, yet not one cadet gets even an informal course in the development, engineering, production, fielding and procurement of weapon systems in the overall Defense Acquisition process under which we equip and arm our Armed Forces. They need a course in Defense Acquisition as part of nearly all engineering majors and fields of study. In today's world, it is essential that our officers be able to communicate effectively with allies, negotiate with enemies and host nations, yet our cadets have less than 1/2 the class time and exposure to formal language training today than they had just 25 years ago. You cannot learn a language in just 80 hours of instruction. Cadets must be required to take two years (12 hours) of a language. Virtually all liberal arts degreed programs at the best universities require three years of their graduates and most of them will never travel or live in a foreign country. Everyone of our graduates deploys oversees and lives or dies in many foreign countries as part of their mission. Lastly, I am concerned about the example we set for cadets when the Academy publically provides special privleges and VIP treatment, especially at football games to big dollar donors and often shun the COLs and LTCs who have given 22-30 years of selfless service to the Army in what one would think is the role model for cadets. What is the message we send when cadets see that treatment of the 3-5 year Army service grad who goes out and makes lost of money while his or her classmates devote their lives to the betterment of the Army. Do we ever tell cadets those officers are to be emulated? Just becasue they are not generals does not mean they are not what we want future cadets to be like. I would rather see us promoting those guys as the model instead of the rich guys who left the Army early because it not pay them enough or becasue they were not generals or colonels in 3-5 years. Most of those guys got out ot the Army because they could not be great company commanders. Why should we treat them so special in front of cadets now that they are commercially successful. How often does a passed over major or LTC get invited to the Loge or to one of the formal tailgates to "mix" with cadets and senior leaders? (never)

[234]  The mission (in today's world) must emphasize "building leaders for the nation" as opposed to just the military. We all understand many grads leave after their commitment. But even graduates that are "lifers" staying in 20-30 years enter civilian society in the prime of their lives (42 - 52 years old). They must understand more about how their leadership talents could/should be used outside of the military to benefit the nation. We all subliminally know this.... but we need to cull it out, and educate our cadets on this phenomenon from day one. Their expectations of leadership do not end when they take the uniform off.

[235]  I am concerned that our efforts at getting out the word that USMA now needs financial support is not going well. I have heard from some classmates that their societies feel that USMA needs to do some belt-tightening before they will give money. I know that USMA has already done that, but apparently that word is not getting out.

[236]  Strategic planning Role of football in USMA's self-image Physical plant problems

[237]  Quite candidly I am concerned that a West Point graduate is not availabe to head up OPE. By selecting a Non graduate to me says that in today's Army there is not a graduate qualified for the job and I do not believe that!

[238]  I am concerned with any mission statement that does not include words such as "a career in the Army - or other US services." We are graduating too many lawyers, gynacologists, brokers - and not enough soldiers. I am also opposed to the culture that says women should be in combat. I do not oppose women in the service and, in fact, I worked for a very professional female MG in the Pentagon in the 60s.

[239]  1. Bowing to "politically correct" organizations to make West Point more "sensitive" of "diversity." 2. Gender-norming. 3. Loss of "warrior culture."

[240]  The general trend appears to lose sight of the Academy as extreme of training and character. Attempts to make training and atmosphere 'more Army-like' is a travesty. Unfortunately, the Army does NOT constitute a high level of integrity and professionalism as a whole. By becoming overly concerned with an all-inclusive policy and 'recycling' cadets, and by obsessing on 'consideration of others,' the Academy is becoming a management school, not a leadership school. A leaders, not necessarily all commanders, know the importance of respect being accorded to all soldiers, and the requirement to hold himself (herself)to a higher standard. All too often, being accepted and a 'buddy' has surplanted the 'harder right.' Reports of honor ambiguity (such as bed stuffing)relate a lessening of the high standard of integrity that the Academy should be espousing. Irrespective of the cost involved or the 'self-esteem,' more cadets should be separated for not meeting the standard, not given multiple chances.

[241]  Is this the third change to the mission statement???

[242]  Yes, but I think they are not addressable by the academy.

[243]  o the loss of traditional "cadet life" in lieu of: relaxed privileges, o less military training courses during the year ( I understand the old tactics course is now a several week block of instruction during the year) o too great of an influence by non-comms

[244]  Differences in standards between genders of Cadets Lowering of dicipline standards for Cadets Weakening of the diciplinary system Differences between West Point Cadet experience and the Army experience. i.e. no daily unit PT, regular range fires, regular field excercises I did more time in the field at ROTC than I did when I was a WP Cadet (yes I did both programs)

[245]  I wish you had a list of the major points that the Supe is trying to accomplish in this survey.

[246]  1. Emphasis on retention at USMA dilutes the quality of our product. 2. Emphasis on retention in the Army as measure of success is silly given the Amry's desire to not have people stay in.

[247]  i'm probably not as familiar as i'd like to be with the process. however, i am quite pleased with the direction the Army has taken in the past 10-15 years.

[248]  Funding Academic Chairs particularly in Leadership

[249]  Overall I'm happy with the direction, but feel it needs better communication to include some debate in the Assembly. Just because the Supt, Dean etc. say so doesn"t sway the old grads.

[250]  Standards of Cadet Discipline

[251]  Not educated enough to make a judgement

[252]  Despite denial, there is still suspicion that the Master of the Sword selection was political and that the chosen candidate did not apply but was solicited.

[253]  sounds like again, they do not really acknowledge the fact that many grads can make a contribution to the civilian sector. Of course, the goal is to stay in and serve the US through a career in the Army, but not everyone can be a general, etc. Let's just get our head out of the sand. It is still worth it for the academy to have a grad for 5 years of military service, and then for a lifetime as a steward of the education he/she received.

[254]  Put the military back in Military Academy, to include 4 years of MS classes.

[255]  Moral values, ethics, and the desire to get ahead vice serve the country and the troops in the best possible way no matter what the sacrifice. The "young" graduates I've met don't seem to have the character to stand up and be counted and are not risk takers ie they take "...the easier wrong rather then the harder right." That's obviousily a personal opinion from limited observation.

[256]  Loss of the Warrior Spirit in the Corps

[257]  The limited amount of active duty time being required of some graduates is disturbing.

[258]  Increasingly lax direction/focus towards/on discipline in the Corps of Cadets.

[259]  See comments above. We really need to refine our vision of USMA's unique contribution versus the cost. This is no longer clear.

[260]  I would like more information upon which to base an opinion.

[261]  I think that the degredation of the 4th class system is dangerous and sad. I'm sure that this is not a unique opinion.

[262]  Women at WP Type of degree (what was wrong with Civil Eng ?) Combat arms vs anything else

[263]  Is there a mission statement (i.e. Hype-less, non fundraising bull) of these changes? I think the cadets need some civilian job hunting skills provided before graduation, and possibly these should be funded by AOG, and taught by AOG volunteers.... a series of representatives from different industries plus a few recent and old grads mixture for balance would be ideal.

[264]  Movement away from a single 'Core' academic program to a laundry list of electives. Elimination of the requirement that graduates serve in the combat arms. Apparent efforts to maintain the size of the Corps beyond the need of the Army for career officers.

[265]  Supe's suggested mission statement may set up USMA for publicly perceived failure by saying that the mission is to insire cadets to a career of service in the Army. Most don't serve a career and so many even get out before 5 years!

[266]  1. Moving away from a rigorous science/engineering curriculum to more liberal arts oriented majors. 2. Reducing the rigor of beast barracks. 3. Expansion of priviledges in all classes at the cost of discipline as an aspect of daily life. 4. Encouraging pursuit of studies that are more oriented to civil pursuits than service in the Army at the entry level and even beyond.

[267]  I think that the political correctness is pervading and going too far.

[268]  I haven't been following this closely so it's difficult to say whether I have any concerns.

[269]  adequate emphasis on ethical conduct; not just avoiding honor violations or demerits. closer contact between cadets and graduates, other than those at west point; perhaps during reunions, etc. I believe that cadets would find the range of accomplishments and the quality of the people to be inspirational.

[270]   We should be concerned about keeping the Corps of Cadet size constant despite a reduction in the overall Army troop strength.  We should work to reduce the required service time after graduation (graduates should want to stay in the service because of it's high quality not because of a legal contract)  We should work to return RA status to all our graduates.  We must support the Superintendent in improving our athletic facilities so they are the best available.

[271]  In reading the comments on the Forum, I believe there are others who will put forth more elequently than I, the reservations I have toward the present direction that West Point is heading. Suffice to say that I think the non-academic portion is dumbing down to the current level of the GAP and I think it is a violation of everything West Point stands for.

[272]  Will followup by letter

[273]  Yes, Failure of the USMA administration to support the repeal of the law denying regular army commissions to academy graduates upon graduation!!!!

[274]  The closer West Point becomes to a civilian ROTC program the harder it is to justify the expense. Over my 40 years since graduation I have watched the decline in discipline of the Corps and the relaxation of demands upon Cadets time. Firsbee and cookouts in Central Area reflect this decline. The elimination of punishment tours is another indication of change. I will wait and see about Conference USA, but the performance of Army football in 1997 leaves alot to be desired. What happened to the "fields of friendly strife" I can answer this in a more informed way after our 40th Reunion in May.

[275]  Beast Barracks is becoming too "politically correct." The new cadets were trucked out to Camp Frederick instead of marching. The previous two female Commanders of Beast (officers not cadets) were unsuited to the task--not grads and made decisions without understanding consequences. The new Commandant has declared Plebe duties (mail, laundry, newspaper delivery, calling minutes, etc.) to be personal services and intends to stop them. There is no "pinging" currently -- what will constitute a 4th class year?

[276]  The general direction is of concern. Fund raising at the top of the list. The "brochure" put out to justify fund raising was very poor. May need a new Supe and a new team to get the mess cleaned up. Do we need to cut staff in AOG??

[277]  As always, USMA reflects changing US defense requirements. The dilemma: retain core values while planning for the inevitable end of the single-Service alignment of it and the other Service Academies.

[278]  Very few grads are serving out full careers (20-30 yrs) in the active Army. I think this is one source of criticism of USMA's relevance. If the downward trend continues, I'm afraid it will be fair to say that USMA has failed the nation.

[279]  MICHIE STADIUM SKY BOX PROGRAM AND ATHLETIC OFFICE FACILITIES

[280]  very concerned with: - increasing population of civilian instructors at USMA - graduates receiving Reserve Commissions

[281]  I think USMA should focus more on developing officers for the combat arms. The experience there should be the place to train the best combat officers. Other branches can be filled from other commisioning sources.

[282]  The one area I am concerned about, based on what several of my Lieutenants have said, is that as more and more emphasis is placed on education and concern for others, less and less time is paid to the development of the warrior spirit. The bottom line of USMA is still to develop value-based leaders--who have the will to win. I am saddened by the numbers of great leaders that have stacked arms in the last few years. I know that is inevitable in a drawdown force, but we must never lose sight of the fact that there are still battles to be won. I hope that those who make the decisions include the emphasis on the Never Quit and Can Do attitude--throughout a career.

[283]  Concerned that tha Academy's conceswsions to the popular trend toward political correctness may compromise focus on winning wars

[284]  ...for a lifetime career as an offier of the Regular Army--that's where we should go---who are we kowtowing to ,to change this?

[285]  1. Policies seem designed to appeal to current trends, jargon, and politics -- this may have always been the case. 2. IMHO policies should be anchored in bedrock and not subject to compromise or temporizing.

[286]  1. Availability to cadets of guidance, counseling and instruction on moral behavior of military leaders. 2. Tactical department oversight of upperclass interaction with and influence on 4th class... my concern is that impressionable plebes will pick up and pass on inappropriate leader behaviors, much as an abused child tends to later become an adult abuser. This issue overarches class year, gender,and generation at USMA in my opinion.

[287]  i am not certain that the evolving mission of the USMA is good for the long-haul. I understand the need to evolve, but it seems like the focus is being diminished.

[288]  1. I am concerned about the policies that have been implemented by certain engineering departments that erode academic and military standards. It appears to me that the Department of Systems Engineering uses low academic standards and easy course material to try to compete to get the maximum number of cadets to sign up for areas of concentration and fields of study. These large numbers of cadets ultimately entitles the department to a larger faculty and more influence in the academic circles of the Academy. However, it fosters an attitude among cadets that standards are not important. Most cadets feel that they are entitled to at least a C minus grade just for showing up to class on a daily basis. An analysis of grades awarded by the department will probably show that this cadet attitude is not unwarranted. 2. I am concerned that the Academy is trying too hard to protect the cadets from themselves, especially when it comes to potential honor violations. For example, there was an honor case where a cadet allegedly cheated on the two mile run, but was found not guilty. The finding may have been flawed, but it does not warrant the knee jerk reaction of changing the two mile run route to make it harder for a cadet to cheat.

[289]  Quality of graduates

[290]  There are entirely too many majors and courses offered that have nothing to do with a career in the Armed Services. A waste of money and slots.

[291]  Quit telling us all is hunky dory there as far as developing a military cadet. It ain't Tell us more about the rundown of facilities so we know what needs letter writing help to the cretins in Congress.

[292]  I lack a strong sense of how the Academy will survive, much less thrive, between now and the next national mobilization. Perhaps this is understood by all other grads but me...

[293]  I guess, like many graduates, I worry about standards slipping with the new four calss system, versus the fourth calss system. Working under extreme stress was something that I learned at the academy and something that I used during my service in the army. I hope that new graduates will still have that ability!

[294]  Same old thing--'progressive' change is good...be careful not to erode any of the traditions.

[295]  The USMA is a federal institution and as such should be governed and administered by the American People rather than a select group of graduates.

[296]  Please continue to emphasize and communicate a high level of academic excellence. The "B.S" degree from USMA should continue to command respect in terms of the highest possible intellectual standards.

[297]  There should be fund raising for non-appropriated activities only. There needs to be more focus upon CADETS, the purpose of the institution.

[298]  NO more area tours??? I disagree with this direction.

[299]  1. Integrating Consideration of Others continues to be very important. Continued emphasis on Schofield's Definition of Discipline. 2.

[300]  I'm concerned that a relaxing of the fourth class system and cadet regulations in general, might take away from the spartan nature of the West Point experience. The more we emulate and venerate the atmosphere and freedoms of a "real" college, the more we risk becoming one.

[301]  How do we define and measure mission accomplishment & progress? What are examples of progress? Who agrees w/ these measures? Have the ideals taught at West Point changed within the grads? How would you measure this?

[302]  I am very concerned that WP is on a slippery slope with all this emphasis on outside fund raising.

[303]  I am concerned that the mission of the Academy will be adversely impacted by recent emergemce of political correctness. Sensitivity towards others is very important but overemphasis detracts from learning to work together and in some cases further separates groups

[304]  Concern about combining all academies into one commissioning unit or doing away with the academies as a result of the thought that ROTC is just as good.

[305]  I have become disenchanted with the TQM process. Primarily because of all the "hype" Successful mission statements almost always bubble up and can easily be heard by those who listen. Organised Mission Statements seem to give you the kind of mission statement the organization wants to ratify its existance.

[306]  Should re-institute regular commissions for graduates.

[307]  I get the feeling that the courses are being watered down to the point that the students do not have to take the "hard" courses. My experience has been that the study discipline of the "hard" courses have been what has made the West Point education far above the norm.

[308]  1. Women at West Point..low standards...quotas. 2. Current lack of structure and discipline. It has become a coed university in uniform. 3. Too many cadets for today's requirements. Go back to 2400 until needs increase. 4. No regular commissions for grads...incredible!! 5. Academic offerings too diverse. USMA seems to be trying to compete with major civilian schools. It can't, and shouldn't be trying. 6. USMA should be focusing on graduating CAREER minded COMBAT soldiers, not academicians nor combat support people.

[309]  Maintain the original ideals established long ago. I believe the United States' Constitution and Bill Of Rights are slowly being changed by society and ideals are being compromised. I do not want to see that happen to USMA. Restating a mission is a powerful act and can not being taken lightly. Be steadfast in duty, honor, country.

[310]  Degeration of Training ie,termination of military tng of serving penality tours marching on the areaand the rapid delution of the plebe system

[311]  USMA must somehow deal with the problem of where graduates' focus lies - the Army or elsewhere. I don't feel that subject is taken as seriously as it needs to be.

[312]  I believe we are headed down the wrong avenue with our attempts to main stream the Academy into looking more like a "civilian" institution. Maintaining a highest standard of excellence in every aspect is what seperates West Point from all others!

[313]  I think we need to get back to basics of providing officers to the U.S. ARMY. Everyone shpould do at least one tour in a combat Arm. Medical School, Law School etc. should be delayed until after a first tour in the Army.

[314]  Changes, changes, changes Col Hallums (we have no input to weigh) Mistress of the Sword (another bomb dropped without warning) Educational priorities RA Commissions You want more?

[315]  General agreement; however, there seems to be too much emphasis on political correctness and "warm fuzzy" leadership.

[316]  Changes, changes, too many changes, all sprung upon us without warning. Each Supe does his little things, but the sum over the years is horrendous. Col Hallums (we have NO evidence to weigh) Mistress of the Sword (Another bomb dropped wihout warning) Priorities for Cadet time. Is the USMA "just another Ivy League school"? Is that the intent? And there are more.

[317]  Se earlier response above regarding priorities...

[318]  The Academy has become so politically correct it is disgusting. Graduates currently serving as instructors do not support the direction of the Academy and actively work against the direction of the current superintendent. New graduates lack the level of integrity and dedication normally observed in USMA lieutenants. I commanded for over three years, during which time the reputation of USMA graduates significantly declined due to poor performance by junior officers. More than one USMA lieutenant was relieved for leadership/integrity deficiencies. The Superintendent constantly points out the high graduation rate for cadets. To me that shows a weakness--we are not weeding out poor performers early on. The Academy will deny this, but I have seen it first hand as a line commander in a combat unit.

[319]  Loss of focus on military training and too much increased emphasis on academics. USMA is a military school first and academia second.

[320]  I share many concerns but lack factual data to comment. Perhaps the USMA product is really much better than it once was. I am willing to assume so.

[321]  current commandant's zeal in making west point more like the army in my view is a mistake. we should be trying to make the army more like west point. i believe by trying to change west point to be more like the army we will be losing much of what has made west point special--instead we appear to be on the road to being an expensive rotc experience for the cadets.

[322]  It is my understanding that, under the current version of the honor code, a cadet's honor may be used against them. For example, in ancient days of yore, a cadet could not be asked a question regarding a minor infraction and forced to choose between a few hours on the area (or perhaps many hours) and a violation of the honor code. I understand the need for efficiency in the operation of the Tactical Department, but our judicial code prohibits requiring someone to incriminate themself. Had this been the practice when I was a cadet, we would have all been mince meat for having stolen the tank and driven it through the senior officers' housing area on the way to the front of Washington Hall!

[323]  Too much diversity in the education. Too much straying away from the old mission: a lifetime career as an officer in the Army.

[324]  Sad football team this year "Sensitivity training" sounds BOGUS Plebe English is no longer tough enough; they should be responsible for training writing skills

[325]  It seems to me that with an anti-military president, the Point would lose it's importance. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? For example, going "private"?

[326]  Insufficient informatino to answer.

[327]  Cadet training needs to improve in etiquette. I am amazed that 2LT West Point officers sometimes appear unaware of basic officer qualities. A West Point officer needs to set a standard of excellence - there appears to be a trend to "fit in" versus chosing the harder right. Note I am aware that society as a whole is less concerned with etiquette, but I do not accept that as an excuse to lower expectations of West Point officers.

[328]  I think our new focus give those who want to close the academy a strong foot by focusing our efforts on becoming a military officer. With so many changes in the "system" the focus need to be developing leaders for our country either in the military or civil service.

[329]  I'm slightly concerned about the ability of the academy to attract quality civilian faculty without offering tenure. I understand the downside of tenure, but we need to ensure that we are not getting the mafginal academic performers that cannot get hired at civilian universites. I am not calling for a change in policy at this point, but I do think a very honest appraisal of the quality of the civilian faculty should be an ongoing process and if poicy needs to be adjusted to ensure high quality the various option, including tenure, are given full consideration. I also understand the ongoing efforts between the Dean's office and Milpercen to attract quality military faculty and I applaud these efforts. I am somewhat disturbbed, howeve, by what I am hearing from junior officers, i.e., that Academy faculty time is looked upon as being less than career enhancing. I understand that the tight competition for bn cmd and the dictates of the Goldwater-Nichols act have made timing of grad school & Academy faculty time very dicey. What can/should that Academy and theArmy at large do to counteract this? Not sure, but think the issue needs to be out on the table. The bottom line is that the Academy pays back the Army ten-fold for the time given up to get a grad education and teach.. This payback comes in the form of increased capabiolity, and NOT just for academy graduates. Perhaps we need a pr campaign that highlights the contributions of former Faculty members to the Army and the Nation. I think the history and Soc depts could offer a lot here, but I'm sure the other depts could help as well.

[330]  Combat arms for women graduates; more strenuous program for women undergraduates.

[331]  Most of the information I have received is hearsay, but I am very concerned about what I have heard. It appears that if the trend continues, the only a few things will distinguish cadets from college pukes: 1. Most basic needs met while in school. 2. Wear uniforms and attend formations. 3. Have a commitment to serve at a low salary level after graduation. I advocate and would support a return to Old Corps ways of doing things. I know Old Corps means something different to every year group, but my understanding is that things are slipping quickly. The Supe "including graduates in the development" of its mission? What kind of crap is that? When I was an officer, I received my orders and executed them. Period. My military was not a democracy, and a democratic military will not survive. This whole issue is absurd, insulting, and will prove to be devastating to the Academy.

[332]  Regular Army Commissions

[333]  I have a concern about televisions being installed in cadet rooms. One of the most postive influences in my stay at West Point was the absence of television. Individual sets in rooms with the ability to access normal programming will ruin study habits and polarize the Corps. With all the funding issues currently facing USMA, installation of televisions in cadet rooms is a waste of money and counterproductive.

[334]  Liberalization/'political correctness' replacing tradition. While Respect for Others is certainly a fine ideal, putting it on an equal basis with the Academy Honor System reeks of PC. The elimination of walking the area is yet another time-honored tradition that served a purpose and served it well that has gone by the wayside. It was one of those things that 'set West Point apart'. Extra duty may be more like the Army, but it takes away some of the Academy's special uniqueness.

[335]  1. No RA commission 2. Too much civilian faculty (couldn't/wouldn't work when funding was held up) 3. Inadequate federal funding 4. Deteriorating physical plant

[336]  The movement to majors within the program is going to cause the Academy to start to lose it's uniqueness. I eventually see the Academies consolidated into a Sandhurst-type program of about a year that all officers attend. The argument against that is becoming harder to make.

[337]  loss of traditions, relaxing of the M in USMA

[338]  Have not seen or heard of any serious discussions or studies about down sizing USMA now that the Army has been downsized. Is it time to go back to two regiments and 3600 cadets?

[339]  Too much emphasis on academic credentials to the detriment of the military and physical programs; deviance from the "spartan" lifestyle mentioned in West Point 2002.

[340]  Extremely concerned about quality of academic program and its directions!!!!

[341]  1.It's affiliation with Conferance USA 2.It's emphasise on "Consideration of Others" 3. The appointment of a female non-grad as Master of the Sword when other more qualified grads are available. 4. The over civilianization of the academic department. 5. The apparant demilitarization of the curriculum. 6. The failure to select the "Warrior" leader as Superintendant for at least the past three Supes. 7. The "assignment" Spirit units 8. The wearing of camoflouge make-up at athletic activities. 9. Locks on doors 10. Optional meals 11. The demise of the Fourth Class System 12. The tinkering with the Honor Code

[342]  I like the renewed focus on USMA providing leaders for the Army first, nation second.

[343]  As mentioned above, consolidated fund raising.

[344]  I am concerned about the direction all the Armed Services are headed. The civilian and senior military leadership appear to believe that the services are a combination of a grand social experiment, a source of pork barrel funding, and a life of rank and privilege. An Army that justifies an elisted female living in quarters with the base commander by stating that she isn't under his command isn't the Army I joined almost 20 years ago. The Academies are the place to instill a resistance to the 'perfumed prince' (borrowed from David Hackworth) syndrome I see more and more in the news.

[345]  TWO MATTERS OF CONCERN: A WOMEN AS MASTER OF THE SWORD NO RA COMMISSIONS FOR GRADUATED CADETS.

[346]  I believe the mission statement should reflect that USMA's purpose is to prepare career leaders for operations conducted by our Army. A more simple statement is better. Stating that a goal is lifelong service to the Nation implies and may even encourage graduates to leave active service for any position which can be articulated to provide some "service" to the nation. We must return to our roots. West Point makes leaders of soldiers for the purpose of leading them in hostilities.

[347]  Reported preferential treatment for female cadets. Reported de-emphasis on military aspects of academy life, and an environment more like civilian colleges. Reports that civilian P's dress very casually in the class room, and are not well groomed.

[348]  USMA PREP ENTRY PROCEDURES WOMEN AT WP MAKING WP "JUST ANOTHER TOP SCHOOL" SYSTEM TOO LAX ETC.

[349]  My concerns were forwarded to our class 3 man committee which was formed by the class president to address this item specifically. Am awaiting the results.

[350]  Size in a reduced force. Role of athletics at the Academy. Preparing graduates for more than the service.

[351]  I don't like the "civilianization" of the faculty. I have BSes from USMA and a "civ." university and the Master degreed p's at USMA were far better than any of the PhDs I had in the "real world"!

[352]  Supt's remarks this fall at the 67 30th reunion were well presented and good but, it is appalling that the athletic facilities and training for conditioning facilities are not absolutely superb. There is such a correlation between the physical and mental traits of an officer and the experiences in athletics - it seems shameful that the academy and congress have let the facilities erode or not keep up with what could they be -- to identify certain facilities as not supporting the mission of the academy and therefore not worthy of congressional funds lacks wisdom of what cadets need to fully develope or to even be attracted to the academy before admission.

[353]  Technical issues that I will express to the appropriate officials a the proper time.

[354]  I was extremely disappointed that USMA discontinued the Varsity Rifle Team, but my faith was somewhat renewed when the Team's status was reinstated recently. My last visit to USMA was several years ago, but at that time I noticed that the physical facilities, especially the cadet barracks, were in pretty bad shape.

[355]  I do not believe women should occupy slots at USMA, under its current mission. I am a father of a daughter and believe in equal rights for women, but do not believe women should be cultivated in the USA for combat slots (this is not Israel). I am glad women can have a chance at at a quality education at USMA, but opting for this privilege at the expense of preparing males for combat roles is misguided. I know this is not politically acceptable now in our country, but you asked.

[356]  I have confidence in the Superintendent.

[357]  1. See some timeless traditions going away. Little continuity as leadership changes. West Point shouldn't have to flail like the rest of the Army. 2. Often see change simply for changes sake. 3. Why change the mission again? (& and again and again...)

[358]  I am appalled at the feminization of the military and its effect on USMA and its leadership.

[359]  Declining amount of military procedure/regimentation in cadet daily life

[360]  Poor communication of exactly what direction USMA is headed. Must avoid making it too much like any other college as that makes it harder to justify cost before Congress.

[361]  USMA getting lax on discipline and honor and concentrating more on academics.

[362]  Maintaining Military Profs.

[363]  1) Increasing no. of civilian faculty 2) New retention policy for New Cadet Training

[364]  concerned that West Point is, by becoming more "politically correct", no longer the elite institution it once was. We are on a high road to "ordinariness" and will be just another coeducational liberal arts academy if we do not seek to instill the warrior spirit in not only the Corps, but also the staff and faculty. Reduce the size of the Corps, and return it to the front of the parade.

[365]  Concerned with apparently a short term focus on infrastructure, expecially the luxury box concept for Michie stadium. Need to Beat Navy again. This year's game was an embarassment.

[366]  Where is the warrior concept/Have we lost it? I dpon't know but I have seen nothing that says we still have it. Are we losing sight of our mission? I worry about my doubts and the doubts raised by others, largely unanswered.

[367]  The moving away from a school for military leaders toward just another ivy league school with little memory of the traditions which make USMA great.

[368]  Recent graduates seem to be lacking the military discipline the older graduates have.

[369]  USMA is too big and too expensive; doctoring the mission statement is simply a word game which simply has not been very interesting or valuable.

[370]  The usual concerns of "the Corps Has...". I think that we are too concerned with political correctness rather than the process of instilling discipline and training cadets for the future job they will be asked to perform; leading our nations military in time of war.

[371]  There should be more outlets and venues for cadets to be able to employ personal talents such as creativity, initiative and charismatic leadership. Likewise, these talents should be included as evaluation criteria in performance ratings, as they are all essential in leadership in "the real world," as I have learned through experience.

[372]  "Watered down" fourth class system. I always thought that the purpose of the Academy was to produce leaders for our nation's Army, which exists to defend the nation in time of war--or keep it from war by preparing for war. Combat is a stressful situation, and can never be replicated. But it can be simulated. I believe that putting a young cadet through as much mental, physical, and emotional stress is his or her first taste of simulated combat. This may sound corny, but we don't conduct football practice for a winning team by letting the players relax. We do it by placing as much stress on them as possible, so that on game day when they experience the "real" thing, they have the confidence, the knowledge, the experience to deal with those realities. And I'm sure all the stress has'nt been taken out of the plebes' environment. But I do understand that many of the old , and yes, traditional stressors have been removed. Do the new ones measure up? Lets not mess something up that is'nt necessarily broken--something that has proven itself time and again.

[373]  I provided comments to the Supe via e-mail. Essentially, what concerns me is translating the somewhat lofty mission statement into goals and objectives that are meaningful at the Tac Officer level so we can train cadets where the rubber meets the road. I can provide my letter electronically if you are interested or if it will help.

[374]  I'm not completely familar with conditions presently at West Point. However, from what I have heard mostly from word of mouth, I am concerned that standards are getting too slack.

[375]  1. Political interests which tend to use the Army and the Military Academy as social science experiments for our society. 2. Feminization of the Army and the Military Academy.

[376]  WP needs to keep its focus on tradition. Eliminating area tours, allowing 2d class to have cars, etc. really bothers me and everyone else I talk with about this issue.

[377]  I would like to see more emphasis on minority recruitment and retention.

[378]  Degradation of many USMA traditions. Someone should do a comparison of what has occurred from year to year, but what has been lost in the past 10, 25 and 50 years.

[379]  Yes, the tendency of the Academy to rely on alumni funds to meet what are essentially operating expenses or needs (i.e. cadet activities, facilities)

[380]  USMA as a producer of combat arms, career oriented officers of character

[381]  Concerned that West Point may eventually go away, the RA commissions being filled with ROTC cadets.

[382]  I (and many graduates) are uneasy about what we see as a continuing trend to make West Point just another college.

[383]  the removal of the area and the plebes pinging and the shortening of the march back and to lake during beast. It seems they are no longer trying to make it difficult. 100% graduation should not be a goal. High retention is good but the development of fewer good leaders should take priority

[384]  Lessening of discipline through personal appearance, loss of traditional values as indicatated by behavior. The liberalization of the academy to better accomodate civilain values has probably gone too far. some will argue that the distinction between USMA and ROTC is blurring--this is exactly the wrong message in times of shrinking budgets.

[385]  1. Curriculum is too diversified and detracts from producing the "traditional" USMA product (an officer trained in systematic problem solving). 2. Recent graduates do not seem committed to the military as an institution.

[386]  - Has there been a gradual decline in standards (are there too many cadets graduating who have not demonstrated their ability and potential to be professional Army officers)? - Is there too much emphasis on short-term "macho" activities at the expense of longer-term intellectual development?

[387]  1) Reference area tours vs community service: Everyone disliked the area---it was a good punishment. Similarly, everyone will grow to dislike community service when used as punishment. Selfless service to one's community should be a desirable behavior, not a response to misconduct. True, it gets more useful projects done, however, it equates selfless service to negative reinforcement. 2) Respectfully ask the Supt not to strip to the waist on national TV (Navy bonfire film shown during pregame show). It's definitely NOT the image I would like to see of the head of the world's premier military academy.

[388]  increase diversity of cadet population

[389]  Not aware of development of new mission statement. Where is USMA heading?!

[390]  We have failed to adjust the substance of the curriculm to the new national security realities that our graduates face. There is far to little offered in the realm of international organiztions, culture in other nations, the economic structure of the world, etc.

[391]  1. Selection of academic majors, bring back the core curriculum with electives. 2. CTLT: send cadets only to units; cease work on sending them to the Pentagon, U&S staffs, and other places they cannot learn fundamental leadership or how the Army really runs. 3. Bring back punishment tours. Some things are unique to the USMA experience 4. Stop trying to protect PAPs from reductions in force. Refocus on sending the best, brightest, and competetitive officers to faculty positions you can find. Don't expose cadets to officers who are retired on active duty, and are not qualified in their basic MOS's. 5. Find every opportunity you can to show how the USMA is different, and provides the nation with a professional soldier who is better than any OCS or ROTC can produce. If you can't, then USMA is an expensive luxury the taxpayers can ill afford to support.

[392]  I am discouraged by the continued "civilianization" of the Academy. We need always to remember that the purpose of the Academy is to produce professional officers for the Army of the United States who will lead our sons (and daughters) in combat to protect and defend our way of life. This must remain the academy's first and foremost objective. I believe that such leaders are forged in adversity. Part of this adversity should be a VERY demanding and challenging, regimented fourth class system. While I do not believe in hazing (in any way, shape, fashion, or form), I firmly believe the academy has relaxed cadet restrictions and requirements far too much. West Point is NOT a college/university. It never has been and never should be. We need desperately to stop trying to be one.

[393]  1. Civilianization of the faculty- this is a BAD idea. I've spent 7 years at USMA- 4 as a cadet/3 as faculty and have seen the pros/cons first hand. The CONs far outweigh the PROs. 2. Movement of USMA from a teaching institution to a teaching AND research institution (often camoflaged as "support to the Army"). Closely tied to #1 above, this is a bad direction to head in. Given a fixed amount of resources (time, energy) cadets (teaching) will suffer.

[394]  West Point should consider post-graduate education -- offering it to non-grad Army officers as well -- perhaps some distance learning-type offerings to augment the mostly technical post-graduate stuff offered to officers by the US Army schools system

[395]  Clear focus on discipline, and not just becoming another college with an ROTC program.

[396]  Changing many of the traditions, such as, the Fourth class System, Area Tours, excessive off-post privileges, restricted access to Thayer Road in the cadet area in front of the Administration Building and the library.

[397]  The Superintendent's attempts to get graduate funding of essential operational functions is misguided and is liable to affect graduate support of the AOG. That pit is bottomless, and not a function for donations...as currently conceived. It can be done if carefully constructed, but the AOG must make that a prominent separate area of funding support that does not detract from normal AOG functions.

[398]  Women, discipline, the Fourth Class System

[399]  Gert Usma back to basics. Have the guts to at least make women into a separate entity of the Corps. The present situation is ridiculous. You say you teach Duty, Honor Country and you put locks on doors. You have so many clubs your'e going broke supporting them. You treat cadets as college students not as future leaders. West Point should be a unit to train combat officers, not a unit to train finance officers and medical doctors. The next thing you lnow you'll have a specialty for traning nurses-- or do you already?

[400]  Concerned when Lieutenants are getting out before there 5 year committment is up. Is that the duty that we are getting across to our young leaders.

[401]  I heard that USMA was moving toward more civilian professors. I think that this move is not in the best interests of the Academy. Academically, having one or two select civilian professors in each Department is great because of the talent they bring. To extend that to a certain percentage (20-25%) of the faculty would be a mistake. Bringing in new blood (officers fresh from graduate school)each year through the current system ensures that we expose the cadets with the latest and greatest technologies and procedures from the universities throughout the country (academics) and the army as a whole (leaders/role models). Tenured civilian professors will get academically "stale" over time and few that I have been associated with bring the "role model" characteristics we want the cadets to emulate. Navy tried it and is now in full retreat. Let's not have to personally learn the errors of this staffing process.

[402]  Major effort for me. See my comments above. I'll have more on this later.

[403]  Need more time to think about this. There are concerns that I have but do not have time right now to compose thoughts in a logical manner. This should be sent to graduates as a separate item with time to respond.

[404]  USMA needs a more proactive approach to defending itself and its mission.

[405]  1.Too many cadets 2. Relaxation of standards (e.g.) early recognition, too many first class privileges

[406]  I must say that the Hallums affair in BS&L concerns me. I served with COL Hallums on two occasions and support his leadership style completely. I suspect that most subordinates outside of BS&L share this opinion. I also have personal friends in the BS&L faculty that remained loyal to their Department Head. I fear the "softer side" won that conflict and perhaps the Academy's azimuth is getting away from training warriors.

[407]  a. Failure to press DA and interested Members of Congress for RA commissions for graduates upon graduation. b. New Cadet Barracks is two weeks too short. c. Fourth Class year should be more demanding, more strenuous. d. Academy Professor program should be scrapped (only Dept heads and "not" heads should be permanent. e. Scrap BS&L, reconstitute MP&L under the Tactical Dept. f...z. Space does not permit.

[408]  I am not happy with the fact that the superintendent accepts the ruling that graduates now receive reserve commissions. I believe it considerably diminishes the stature of the academy.

[409]  As a veteran of 20 years in various positions in higher education, it is clear to me that West Point is drifting toward a new purpose for existence. The problem is that no one seems to recognize it yet.

[410]  -"New Age" approach to discipline which may not produce the results necessary to succeed under extremely stressful situations - Rumored lack of control over the mingling of the sexes resulting in numerous allegations of rape and other conduct unbecoming of cadets - lack of a Regular Army commission and other career management issues which make it seem that the Academy is not a special place, but rather just "another college"

[411]  I am concerned about who USMA is bringing back to teach, especially the senior leadership. I think that the Academy Professors and PUSMA's being selected have no recent Army experience and clearly do not know or understand the Army they are training leaders for.

[412]  Not quite knowing how to get after the issue, I do remain concerned in the drift of the Academy away from its former goal of instilling in cadets a desire for a lifetime of service to the Army. If that is not the focus, the Academy will continue to drift and be subject-- perhaps rightfully-- to cries for its demise. Whether or not this factor has affected the declining proportion-- dramatically so?-- in the number of USMA general officers on active duty is a question worth some research.

[413]  lack of focus on producing combat leaders vs. managers

[414]  You had better consider reducing the size of the Corps before someone does it for you. We do not need that many graduates now.

[415]  Not really familiar with the direction of USMA development by the Supe.

[416]  Dissatisfied with the de-emphasis on MILITARY service in the mission statement and elsewhere. Dissatisfied that the shrinking of the military is resulting of a shrinking of the core (USMA) of the future officer pool as opposed to a shrinking of the periphery (ROTC) back onto the core. Pleased with the ongoing modernization of the facility. Pleased with the appearance of cadets seen at Oct. 97 reunion. Pleased with the new direction of the cadet leadership program away from the "old yeller" mode to the more Schofield oriented direction, although I have not watched first hand the implementation of these goals. From speaking to classmates working as instructors, I am pleased with the integration of the honor program into the information age, as well as the thorough emphasis of information technology throughout the curriculum. Pleased with AOG giving me this bully pulpit to ramble on.

[417]  Reference Q27: It appears to me that the SUPE has generated his own program and then tried to foster it off on everyone else. Since I have not been personally involved and have only the hear say evidence and what I have seen in the various publications i may be wrong. But, i suspect not. The SUPE is operating on his own agenda. He may have direction from the SECARMY and the CSA that has "guided" him. However, the bulk of the stuff I am seeing appears to be self generated.

[418]  The Honor System seems to have relaxed so that penalties for violation of the Honor Code support the low norms of contemporary society rather than the higher ideals required of the professional soldier. Unfortunately, this is just an impression from some articles in the Assembly and in the press so I cannot express detailed concerns and I could very well be misinformed. Further information on this aspect of our current cadet culture and training would be appreciated.

[419]  General Christman is retiring at the end of his term at West Point, and has no agenda other than what will benefit West Point. This should be followed for future Supes as well.

[420]  Need a better football coach and system.

[421]  Do not offer a Regular Commission upon graduation and the tendency to continue expanding the academic curriculum which points to University status rather than a good basic military academy education . Specialize after a good basic foundation.

[422]  See commentsa above about AOG involvement in capital funding.

[423]  Invitations to Comunist to speak to Cadets. Caving in to the radical feminist movement--as has the CSA and down. The Army has lost its courage--and it all starts with the USMA.. Stop being "with it" and start training leaders for combat as used to be the mission of the Academy. I am thoroughly disgusted. My grandson graduated last June--and I would not advbise him to stay in this present Army when his commitment is up. It all starts at the Academy. Let's remember that we train soldier, not managers, not psychological counselor, not economists, nut SOLDIERS!!! Doesn't anybody at USMA eremember what that word means? I doubt it. I have absolutely NO confidence in the present Supe and his administration. (XXXXX). '45,

[424]  CLDS - I think that the leadership needs to recognize the dangerous position of buying into political correctness. Winning a war which is what you are training these young men & women to do is about killing people and breaking things - not a nice business - hence we shouldn't be concerning ourselves with creating a nice Army. The direction the Army and the cadet training programs have taken is a very dangerous one. Instead of worrying about political correctness - worry about how we are going to win the next war (hoping of course that it doesn't come).

[425]  Have not studied enough to answer.

[426]  I am concerned about Graduates not receiving Regular Army commissions. I am afraid over time West Point's importance will be diminished, as our graduates will be compared to ROTC graduates at "lesser" institutions. It will become harder to justify the expense of maintaining West Point. USMA will become even more vulnerable to the budget axe.

[427]  I still believe women have no place at the service academies.

[428]  I have concern about the attempt to raise funds for projects that ,to me, should be more appropriately funded from appropriations

[429]  Reserve Commissions. All WP officers should be Regular Army unless they opt to choose otherwise.

[430]  It seems to me that some of the benefits of usma versus rotc have been reduced, which is a bad thing and ought be reversed if possible.

[431]  Not aware of issues or policies currently on the table.

[432]  I'm not really up to speed on where USMA is headed.

[433]  Becoming too "stress free" and mainline college. War is not stress free, nor should training to be a military leader be stress free.

[434]  It seems to me that USMA is striving to be "politically correct" and is becomming just another ivy league school that wears uniforms

[435]  The new mission statement is too broad. There waas nothing wrong with the old statement.

[436]  The propsect of hiring of non-military instructors to replace military instructors - grads and non grads - causes me great concern.

[437]  There is not enough emphasis on the ideals of duty, honor and country

[438]  1. I think Cadets are desiring more firm leadership. They want a tough, rewarding experience. I have a son who just graduated and worked beast last year. All I have talked to said it was a joke. 2. Fewer leaves. Class esprit is lost when "all" cadets are "all" away every eweekend.

[439]  Setting the mission to a career in the Army is setting up USMA for failure. USMA has no control over career progression or troop morale in the Army and cannot control grads' decisions about getting out. By setting the mission to full careers, USMA will fail in its mission and provide those who want to shut it down plenty of ammunition for doing so since it is failing in its mission.

[440]  Losing tradition of past in current 4th class system.

[441]  Second class coaches for the athletic programs, Sutton should have never been given a long term contract, he is below 500 and playing DivII teams. the A/N game was a discrace.

[442]  My understanding is that the new Cadet Chaplain has eliminated the Cadet Prayer and the Apostle's Creed from the chapel liturgy, and that Communion is now only offered monthly. If this is true, I am both concerned and dismayed.

[443]  Having attended several home football games this year, I was amazed at the number of cadets that do not attend the games or leave early. Twenty years ago this was frowned upon. Seems like the Academy has lost something in the process if cadets view supporting their athletic teams as an optional event, when the weather is nice and there isn't something better to do.

[444]  There is not an apparent long-view being taken. The focus, so far as is apparent in publications, extends no farther than 2002. That is only the span of one cadet class. "Where there is no vision the people perish."

[445]  As I reflect on my years at the Academy and my subsequent years as a leader and professional, I am distressed about the amount of negative leadership that was fostered and the attention to the unimportant issues of the day. I hope that since the early 1970s the Academy has changed in these areas and is actively trying to promote positive leadership skills and techniques while avoiding negative ones, and training cadets to focus on the important issues of the day and of life and diminish the emphasis on trivial matters.

[446]  Funding.

[447]  I agree with the thoughts of the class of 1946 that WP should get back to bascs of the combined arms and not try to be all things to all types of degrees.

[448]  lets train US Army officers and not try to out- Harvard Harvard . as all academies are headed I do not see that they are producing any better product than our ROTC graduates ergo why keep these expensive and perhaps noncosteffective institutions going retention in career force

[449]  The Army doe not PHD types as LTs. The classmates that I have seen with the most success are the athletic, outgoing type. To often we are looking for high school students with high board scores, instead of a bright, charismatic, future LT that can lead soldiers in battle.

[450]  relaxation of 4th class system commissioning males in non combat arms reserve commissions

[451]  Your "No" button does not work.

[452]  USMA provides leaders of character to serve their country in the ARMED FORCES. This is not in the mission statement. This deemphasis is in my opinion a reason for the large number of graduates who are leaving the military before they have at least completed their commitment.

[453]  The A Woman is offensive

[454]  Female Cadets should be in separate barracks from Male Cadets. (Females should not have been admitted in the first place). AOG should take a stand on the feminization of the Army and other services USMA made a mistake in letting new graduates go to medical school. That opened the door for females. USMA was intended in former times to develop "combat" leaders, not so many for all the non combat branches. I would like to see the graduates all go to combat arms, unless there is some medical reason to go to combat service support jobs.

[455]  Phyiscal fitness of male and female cadets Billeting of male and female cadets in same building/floor/etc.

[456]  REINSTATEMENT OF REGULAR COMMISSIONS ON GRADUATION-- Would like to see more support for this from AOG and Supe/Com. Greater Emphasis on WP graduates restricted to serving in the combat arms -for at least the first 5 years of service. We should not be in the business of training doctors,lawyers,psychologists,human relation specialists,etc . Other schools can do this.

[457]  I am concerned over the decision to not grant Regular commisions to graduates until after a specified number of years of service.

[458]  -Too much power held by the Academic heirarchy in structuring the curriculum.

[459]  Emphasize MILITARY. Promote Combat Arms, cut out the gender norming (if women want to be Cadets, make them cut it with the male cadets to same physical standards). Restore Regular Commissions in COMBAT arms.

[460]  I am not satisfied with the Army football program. I believe it has a low priority relative to other West Point activities. Football excellence should be made one of the Academy's operating missions. West Point has always placed great emphasis on mission accomplishment; this would help the football program by bringing all Academy elements together. What has happened to Army football is embarrassing.

[461]  Too much emphasis on clubs. No RA commission (not USMA fault) Don't agree with fatigue details rather than punishment tours. Don't agree with early recognition of plebes. Don't agree with commissioning grads in tech services.

[462]  I am concerned about the loss of tradition in the fourth class system. Society in general is experiencing the problems of the decline of the family. Discipline is being perceived as an infringement on people's rights. We cannot allow a decline in society to be relayed into the stringent structure of the Academy and, more importantly, the Army.

[463]  Seems sometimes to be trending toward becoming the "USCC--United States Country Club" in terms of multiplicity of available "fun" activities that consume cadets' time at the expense of the bonding that comes from shared experiences.

[464]  1. First, I am NOT one who's all up in the air about women in combat, a "Mistress of the Sword", etc. That's just today's world. 2. I am concerned about the fact that few graduates (particularly the top ones) have any intention of making the Army a career. Ever since the Academy went to a system of majors, I have felt that the academic focus thereby pushed out the military focus - supporting such proposals as Larry Korb and others have made about restructuring the whole system. As I recall, the mission used to be oriented on graduates' "progressive and continued development throughout a lifetime career as an officer in the Regular Army." Take a vote and see how many cadets currently have that in mind - and ask them why.

[465]  We need to get back to Regular Army Commissions

[466]  I strongly feel that graduates from the service academies should be awarded a regular commission. Is his a dead issue?

[467]  We seem to be too eager to be "Politically Correct."

[468]  Having an avowed communist lecture at West Point

[469]  Don't know the long range strategy. Whatever USMA and its direction is must fuel the tenets of Duty, Honor, Country. The fine are lying, or quibbling, to forward ones career must not be tolerated. This is one area where we must seperate ourselves from the morale deacy we see in our country.

[470]  Curriculum reduction. Eliminate female cadets

[471]  Comments in par. 17 above apply.

[472]  Elimination of the 4th Class System

[473]  prefer that it not add/change to a grad degree program

[474]  Its focus on recruiting qualified candidates from the minority population.

[475]  I strongly believe that women and men should train separately. The integration of women has diluted the effectiveness of military training for the men and it is patently obvious when viewing the Corps and talking with individual members. It is regretable that integration was allowed in the first place. We should take a step back and train men and women separately.

[476]  Softening R-Day procedures My recommendation is to make the Field Training much more demanding, both physically and mentally. This is what our soldiers have to do, so we must know what price they paid to serve. The academics need to be relaxed to allow for a student atmosphere, but the summer is time to stress military...and we are a physical military. Close with and destroy the enemy!

[477]  SURVIVAL OF THE SERVICE ACADEMY

[478]  The USMA needs to concentrate on the fundamentals of producing military combat leaders instead of providing a liberal arts education in competition with civilian universities. Get back to the basics that have been the hallmark of USMA since its creation, except for the erosion of standards experienced in recent years.

[479]  I am extremely concerned with the proliferation of Civilian Professors. Although I know my position is not the "party line" at WP, I have been told by former professors and Cadets that they are out of touch with the Cadets and do not understand the demands placed on a Cadet. A few to keep ideas fresh is fine, but DO NOT turn us into another Naval Academy! A military academy neeeds military examples.

[480]  DO NOT REDUCE THE CURRICULEM OR MAKE USMA A MILITARY PREP SCHOOL.

[481]  Am worried that rigorous standards of moral, mental, and physical stamina and character are not being maintained. And that these traditional standards wane, progressively, in the graduates of later generations.

[482]  Military Leadership and the mission of the Academy to train leaders for combat.

[483]  Area Tours Pinging

[484]  1. Prepare graduates to support the mission of the United States Army. 2. Sexual misconduct in the Army.

[485]  1.Continuing appropriations cut-backs 2.curtailment of long term career opportunities resulting from reduction in force structure

[486]  This response requires more time and thought than I am presently in a position to give. I will dedicate some time in January to it.

[487]  Women at West Point

[488]  Quit trying to be another University. Return to mission of providing best Officers for the RA. Advanced schooling will take care of itself etc

[489]  1. Concerned about increased civilian professors mandated by Congress; need to keep that in balance with former grads as professors. 2. More interaction and interface of USMA with the Army at large might benefit both organiztions, with USMA seen as a resource or think tank for Army issues, problems. Promote conferences there about primary issues of concern in the Army, the U.S. and involve Army leadership and cadets, etc.

[490]  I am concerned with the military education structure at USMA. I still believe that a cadet should attend military science classes throughout the year.

[491]  USMA graduates should be awared regularly Army commissions upon graduation. Date of rank for USMA graduates should precede those of ROTC graduating in the same year.

[492]  -Some of the changes affecting 4th classmen,eg recognition before june week -Elimination of punishment walking tours -classroom informality -optional meals -0n-grounds drinking [not a religious or abstinence concern, but one of good order, discipline and example. Regardless of age, cadets are cadets] -Honor Code, eg locks on doors to prevent the theft of computers. Whose idea was it that computers needed to be stored when cadets were on leave? If the administration, they should be willing to cover the loss in the unlikely case an outsider were able to penetrate. If other cadets or support personnel, what a poor message for the state of integrity and honor at West Point.

[493]  I'm only sorry they did away with Plebe year underscore year.

[494]  *At our 40th Class reunion I was chagrined to see that the Cadet Prayer changed replacing "men" with another politically correct word. The hypocrisy was heightened when the phrase "suffer not our hatred of hypocrisy and pretense ever to diminish" followed in its usual position in the prayer. Academy officials were either unaware that "men" in this context was not gender specific or they caved into political pressure. Which one is it - illiteracy or expediency? Don't tell me it was because we have female cadets there now.

[495]  Too much emphasis on diversity and not enough emphasis on homogenity.

[496]  Selflessness needs to be a part of the leadership curriculum.

[497]  1. Retention on active duty after completion of commitment. 2. Loss of "warrior spirit" as exemplified by recent statement by the green suit Beast commander on not glorifying "violence and blood"-get a grip! 3. Aggressively seek more enlisted soldiers for the Prep School or direct admission.

[498]  Major fund raising -- the wealthy will inheirit West Point in the name of saving it because of insufficient federal $$.

[499]  The whole "socialization" approach towards Beast Barracks There seems to be a general lack of respect towards officers by the cadets There seems to be a general lack of spirit during football games

[500]  Oh boy, do I! West Point has so far drifted away from its core role in studying the Art of War, producing entry level combat leaders, who also have a life-long committment to military service, that I think it needs to seriously reevaluate its direction.

[501]  It's difficult to personally assertain. I will visit either within the next three years (depending on family health). I just want to see the current institution and products before making a comment.

[502]  1. Do not lower standards to accomodate social programs

[503]  Is funding for USMA cadets decreasing or is it a constant struggle for money?

[504]  I feel that the changes which have been implemented the past school year are not in keeping with some of the good West Point traditions. I can see the goal of trying to make the transition from cadet to officer easier by implementing these changes, however I feel that any problems that graduates have on their own in OBC or otherwise are problems created by that indiviual. West Point is a military academy and I feel that the cadets should act as such. I am referencing to the extended privileges and use of extra furniture, rugs, etc. I did not have these things and I am not bitter that I did not have them. They would not have helped me in any way to transition, but probably would have created more relaxed standards.

[505]  I disagree with the Superintendants new USMA Mission statement. In a time of downsizing in the Arrmy, the new Mission focuses too much on Military Service, neglecting others ways that graduates can benefit the nation.

[506]  Keeping USMA apolitical. Commitment of new graduates to an Army career versus being an engineer, political scientist, etc.

[507]  Concerned that brick and mortar becoming an alumni responsibility-- The continued fight for appropriated funds must continue. USMA is a public supported institution. Its value to the country is barely understood by the majority of Americans. Need to hold to the fundamentals that gave West Point its character. Duty, Honor, Country are not just words. With a downsized Army need to relook the size of the Corps---do the reasons for the increase from 2400 to 4000 still exist? If not, need to revisit the issue.

[508]  Stop admission of women immediately

[509]  1. Less "civilianizing" as concerns the faculty. 2. Do not lose sight of the priority question---what does the Army need from its officers?

[510]  I am concerned about any efforts to water down the unique training and commission of West Pointers.

[511]  The direction USMA is headed with the cuts in the defense budget.

[512]  I am concerned that USMA will modify its Mission Statement resulting in dillution of focus and an increase in complexity. The mission should remain clear, concise and achievable. When the military loses sight of these characteristics it ultimately fails, providing politicians and society at large the opportunity to apply their personal or political agendas.

[513]  The selection options on this matter are very narrow. I am concerned with all the policies and directions, which by their nature are dynamic. This is not to say dissatisfied; concerned, interested, and anxious to keep abreast of.

[514]  As for walking the area, I see it as one of the dwindling set of experiences that set grads apart from those who went through the Army's regular boot camp (or ROTC or OCS). Fatigue details make sense during military training (summertime) but not the rest of the year. At least not to the total exclusion of the more traditional methods. What's next? Dropping cadet grey in favor of Army green? We may as well be living it up at Berkeley!

[515]  I am concerned about what I percieve to be a continueing trend toward "civilianization" of the Corps (although I am sure that old grads of the 60's and 70's could have had similar concerns about my class(82). I think this is a result of an overall softening of focus in the Army-at-Large. I strongly support the changes since I graduated that have moved USMA closer to "real Army" standards in areas like the Fourth Class System, but what if the Army's standards drop? Do we lower standards as West Point, too?

[516]  Giving graduating cadets a Reserve Commission

[517]  The big issue is that most people, including too many grads, believe that the DoD is responsible for funding all Academy operating expenses.

[518]  I have always felt that West Point's mission and direction should be more in keeping with the historical aim -- to develop and train COMBAT officers for our Army. While time moves on and, with it, political expediencies, the continuing trend toward producing military "managers" instead of combat leaders troubles me.

[519]  Not active in AOG. While I have no specific concerns at this time, I am not neccesarily happy with the direction of USMA. Would need resource detailing current specific initiative and possibly current status.

[520]  The Honor System The Fourth Class System Fund raising vice OMA funding

[521]  Participate in effort to restore policy ofRegular Commissions for graduates and ROTC DMGs.

[522]  Not enough info.

[523]  keep aog informed of mission statement changes.

[524]  Women at Academy

[525]  Facilites renovation

[526]  I recognize we no longer have an identifiable "enemy", but it appears we are drifting abit too far to the liberal arts side and forgeting that our primary reason for existance is the defense of the nation by an armed force.

[527]  4th Class System - at least one semester I know it's old fashioned and useless in today's Army, but what or where is the distinction between a West Point Cadet and ROTC graduate who joined a fraternity

[528]  Reinstatement of Regular commissions should be a priority The increased number of civilian instructors should be studied often--the rotation of highly motivated junior officers through instructional positions has been beneficial to the educational process.

[529]  Graduates should be commissioned in the regular army.

[530]  Have not seen the "new" direction, but would sure like to see it.

[531]  USMA Mission. I have not looked into the current status, but I'm concerned about the mission of West Point. I believe the Academy's mission should be prinicpally to train and educate leaders. That mission should not be so narrow as to include only leaders for a lifetime of military service. I'm certain that USMA graduates who have left military service have subsequently contributed a great deal to our country through leadership in many other fields.

[532]  Failing to direct commission graduates as regular officers in the armed forces and requiring at least 3-5 years service concerns me. The service academies should always be the source of combat leaders for the US.

[533]  Lowering of standards to admit females. Increase in non-military professors. Compromise of the honor system.

[534]  The recent article in the Sep / Oct Assembly describing the new Beast experience made me concerned about other changes within the Corps.

[535]  See comments in #15, 17, 18, 19, and 20 above.

[536]  1. The cloud of political correctness that has engulfed DOD and USMA. Need I say more? 2. Transformation of CDT life (no absence card, proliferation of priviledges, no acknowledgement statement, no public posting of quill (remember USMA form 2-2?), erosion of the 4th class (or any class) system) into somthing resembling a "boys school," etc. etc. It is really funny to see the Dean's AOG column still labled "academic limits." CDT's today do not even recognize the term - there is no conception whatsoever for physical limits and accountablility. Ask a female yearling what happens after xmas - she'll tell you that the cows start overtly flirting with female Plebes - cows get cars and can recognize plebes after Spring break - what an incentive structure!

[537]  I am always worried that the current (but hopefully soon-to-be-reversed-by-the-Republicans-with-the-help-of-the-new-Republican-President) liberal, moral-free trends will infect the good discipline at the Academy. Changing (loosening) discipline to reflect the current societal standards is NOT ALWAYS a good thing!

[538]  Not sure if this fits in here but I had a thought on leadersip courses. PL300 for the 1988 YG covered a lot about situational leadership and other models of leading people. I wish they could have also had cadets learn about their own personal leadership style and personalities and how effective they are and how they are perceived. Cadets/officers should know what their personal style its strengths and weaknesses and be able to commnumicate it.

[539]  It's not building leaders of character who serve the common defense.

[540]  I continue to be concerned about the commitment and quality of our graduates, while I think on paper we are heading in the right direction, I am concerned about the reality. After 3.5 years on the faculty [Dec 93-June 97] I wonder if we are placing too much emphasis on retention and graduating cadets at any cost. I think it is nearly impossible to weed out cadets who do not commit major offenses, yet we know will not excel in the Army.

[541]  Arbitrariness of Aog Memorial article policies is inhibiting

[542]  -Overemphasis on football, and resources required to support a quality football program (ie stadium, press box, weight room for FB team only, and most importantly, football players vice future Army career officers with athletic ability) -Too many cadet activities

[543]  commissioning of graduates

[544]  1) Certain aspects of the academic process should be more "civilian-like." Specifically, the cadet needs to be responsible for their own academic schedule and not their academic sponsor. By the way, I taught at the Academy for 6 years. 2) Elimination of certain Corps Squad sports (ie, Rifle).

[545]  Graduates not receiving Regular Commissions

[546]  What is the "Return on Investment" for female graduates as compared to any or all other categories of graduates ?

[547]  It has been some time now since I read what my classmate, GEN Don Kutyna, recommended concerning funding, but my recollection remains that I strongly supported his position. In the future, I urge USMA to consider very carefully what he has offered.

[548]  Combat arms candidates should be given some sort of additional opportunities during summer training and during the academic year. Non-combat arms candidates should have corresponding opportunities.

[549]  I see it mostly with the Naval Academy but fear it might start with USMA. That problem is the current perception among government officials that integrity changes with each generation. Hence, standards such as the honor code should be "updated" to "stay in touch with the times" are promoted by those in government. This cannot be allowed to happen.

[550]  Lower standards for female cadets. Female cadets. Easy plebe year & early recognition.

[551]  I am concerned with recurring attemps to "civilianize" the faculty.

[552]  More high technology in curriculum; more civility among cadets.

[553]  I help companies do this kind of thing all the time, and feel West Point is making the same mistakes made by many - turning it over to a committee. Then it gets too lengthy and too convoluted to be useful. Part of the immense power of "Duty, Honor, Country" comes from its simplicity.

[554]  I'm concerned about a growing perception among the U.S. population that the cost to taxpayers of all the academies no longer justifies the benefits received by society from them.

[555]  All of my concerns are Politically Incorrect and therfore not addressable by the academy, nor the AOG.

[556]  With the present changes in the Military, down sizing ect,. what does the future hold for West Point?

[557]  West Point needs to instruct cadets/future officers in the role of the National Guard in our nation's defense infrastructure. Since the absorbtion of the National Guard into DoD's Total Force doctrine, I feel it is important that every graduate thoroughoy understands how the National Guard does business and what it can get away with with impunity. On the battlefield, it will be too late to realize that the National Guard leaders have worked and trained under a different set of rules than that what is expected of regular active duty leaders.

[558]  West Point is too large. The expansion from 2500 cadets was ill-advised. The size should have been reduced to about 1250 instead. many of West Points problems in the past thirty years are directly attributable to the expansion. Unfortunately, the "empire-builders" imagined that the Cold War was permanent, so now we have a bloated Military Academy serving an Army of fewer than half a million men. It is never too late to reverse ill-advised decisions.

[559]  I am concerned about potential efforts to fund raise from private companies and also to raise funds as a substitute for projects which should be Congressionally funded. Do some lobbying and break those funds loose ! The taxpayers own West Point and you would find them more than ready to see funds spent (properly or appropriately) for support.)

[560]  New USMA mission statement says that each USMA graduate is "committed to . . . a career in the United States Army." The mission statement does not address graduates who enter the Navy, Marine Corps or Air Force. It also ignores our foreign cadets. It also alienates the hundreds of graduates each year who do not make the Army a career, willingly or unwillingly.

[561]  Please...regain the battle-focus, the list is too long and sad to dwell upon

[562]  Unfortunately, I don't believe a know much about the direction West Point is taking.

[563]  -Loss of RA commission is worth going to the mat for. Perception of having a level ballfield for ROTC grads and USMA grads is stupid and needs to be overturned with rational thoughts and arguments. -Don't let the PC stuff in DC become a change to the culture at USMA. Resist change for social reasons. -Continue to develop the warrior spirit and never let any cadets think they are going to a world class university, but to a world class military academy. -Make sure there is a high stress training and learning environment that has worked for almost 2 centuries. -If the system gets too easy we may as well close it down. If West Point is just another ROTC school, then close it down.

[564]  1. Emphasis on fund raising rather than operating within the provisions of Congress. 2. Emphasis on sex and racial integration.

[565]  The physical plant is very worn down and is only a poor shadow of the time I was there for 1974-79. Fix the darn place! Graduates have very little knowledge of the Reserves or National Guard.

[566]  I support the move to increase the military aspect of West Point during the academic year, and I support the concept of treating all people with dignity (including plebes) - however, I do not support what appears to some to be the elimination of a Fourth Class System. The plebe year should be difficult (in ways other than academic) to ensure that each plebe has the requisite motivation required to be a commissioned officer and a West Point graduate. I also do not support the substitution of work details for area tours. Cadets, as future officers, are not normal troops and should not peform fatigue details (raking leaves, etc.). Area tours, in Dress Gray, with an inspection in ranks prior to walking the day's tours, are much more appropriate for cadets. The area is also an old tradition that binds the members of the Long Gray Line together. The value of that bonding cannot be underestimated.

[567]  I am not sure of the direction that West Point is heading.

[568]  USMA seems to be floating in the political "winds" more than ever, and the de-emphasis of military issues (including "civilianizing" the faculty) makes selling the academies to taxpayers a bit tough.... there are plenty of "captains of industry" coming out of Harvard Business, etc. We could use a military academy more than ever in this political era.

[569]  The services tend to follow society in trends/focus. Discipline is starting to fall off. Fewer priveleges should be granted. Equal physical standards for all should be increased and enforced. Stop looking at the investment in each cadet, or the quota of a cadet's race or gender; toe the line or exceed it, or get the boot. Honor needs to remain binary (toe the line, or get the boot). Physical hardship should be increased to make cadets drive to their limits. Martial arts should be mandatory to give cadets superior skills in hand-to-hand combat and spiritual and physical fitness, which is, fundamentally, a young officer's base of authority in the field.

[570]  Reliance on private financial donations to fill financial gaps when this is a public institution (private donations without pressure is OK)

[571]  Leadership. Practice consistent with theory and principles as established in military doctrine. Consistency of behaviors of tactical officers and faculty as role models in this regard. Respect for dignity, understanding of intrinsic motivation.

[572]  Generally happy with where the Superintendent is headed. The biggest problem is external forces to the Academy - including Army, DoD, and political.

[573]  Without sounding too Old Corps, which I am not, I subscribe to the dated philosophy of "good steel come from a hot fire." Not specific but my intent is clear. My perception is that our leaders are inclined to lean away from the "M" in USMA when in doubt.

[574]  Must develop leaders of character who do the right things for the right reasons...promotion and career are too much a driving force in the officer chain of command.

[575]  Congress should not be allowed in any decisions.

[576]  I suspect the leadership is doing its level best to protect the time-honored concept of a clear cut honor code while the very concept of moral absolutes withstands continuous assault by President Clinton, the prince of truth decay.

[577]  YES, a big one. A lot of my classmates are already out of the Army or are ready to get out soon. The main purpose of West Point is to produce quality officers to serve in the Army. Too many people are using West Point to get a degree and then leave the Army even before their their committment is up. Thus, West Point is attracting the wrong types of people: people that really do not want to be in the Army and it shows. We have had quite a few sub-par officers from West Point in my unit and its embarrassing.

[578]  As the Army reduces its officer requirements would like to see a return to emphasis on combat arms. Have never supported allowing graduates to enter tech services. This is what set us apart from ROTC programs and justified in some large measurethe institution. I also find the notion of "nuturing cadets" inconsistent with the mission of the Acadmey to produce soldiers -- soldiering is a tough business, not a nuturing business.

[579]  Where is WP heading?

[580]  Excessive curriculum expansion diverts from focus on combat arms and extended commitment of graduates to their obigation beyond the contract requirement. Focus on individual needs of cadets Vs. needs of the Academy and the Army. Curve bending as applied to both academics and military training destroys tradition of excellence. Diversion from "elitism" detracts from repudation of producing only the best officers. Need to return to a focus on quality Vs. cadet retention. Focus on officer/graduate retention instead.

[581]  I am concerned about the tendency of West Point to succumb to pressures to be more politically correct. Especially, I think one of the most important parts of the West Point experience id the 4th class system, which teaches young men and women to put the team's goals ahead of their own welfare. I think the trend towards a more "collegiate" type atmosphere will seriously hurt USMA's ability to develop leaders of character. West Point is supposed to be difficult -- that is one of the main factors that inspired me to go there. I object to efforts designed to make USMA more like a traditional college experience.

[582]  Area Tours Discipline Corps Pride

[583]  I believe that USMA has probably done a pretty good job of sorting throught the social minefield that it is, along with the rest of the military, forced to navigate in today's world. While I don't see evidence that says it's happening, I'm concerned that West Point may be caught up in the current environment of "political correctness" that is choking free thought in our society. Such a direction applied to West Point would quiet one of the sources of "conscience" in our society.

[584]  The decision to force at least 80% of each class into the combat arms deprives other branches of diversity and limits cadet satisfaction. Since branch satisfaction is a high predictor of retention, this move could also result in lower retention rates after mandatory service obligations are reached.

[585]  The demilitarazation of the academy in favor of academic pursuits. Allowing grads to go into CSS branchs like finance and med service. Those branchs do not require USMA.

[586]  changes to new cadet training lack of RA commissions lack of committment to the Army's warfighting ability too broad a range of majors lack of funding

[587]  1. I am concerned that the Academy is too reluctant to dismiss individuals that do not meet established standards. Perhaps because of political preasures, individuals who have not met prescribed physical, military, and academic standards are given repeated opportunities. 2. I am concerned that the Academy has lowered some standards, that should not have been lowered, in an effort to minimize attrition rates. The Academy should establish and maintain reasonable standards to ensure that the American taxpayer gets the quality of Army officer they are paying for. The goal of the Academy should then be to ensure that all graduates meet these standards not that all entering cadets graduate. 3. I am concerned that the Academy is becoming just another great college instead of a military academy. Military preparation could be much better. I believe some ROTC programs better prepare their graduates for military service. I think the quality of military intersession instruction is generally poor. The instructors from the academic departments view this instruction as an additional duty. In addition, I think the Academy could use some of the time devoted to drill for more practical military instruction. Obviously, the need to manuever large formations in battle is no longer there. The biggest reason for drill is to put on quality parades for the public. Since many athletes never participate in drill, drill is not an integral part of the cadet experience. I believe that the Corps could put on quality parades with half the drill. The other days could be used for practical military instruction.

[588]  Fund Raising- Active duty members can't afford to give to USMA at the "recommended amount" Why are you bleeding the grads to fund things the American taxes should fund. How about an active PR campaign focused at telling the USMA story...or focused at the business community to fund construction projects. The constant barrage of asking the graduates for more and more money is the main concern of me and my classmates. We DO NOT LIKE IT AT ALL!!! I think what the commandant is doing to change some policies to put the "M" back in USMA are positive.

[589]  I think that it is unfortunate that a Supe has the power to change the nature of the academy so freely. Something is wrong with the process. AOG should have more input.

[590]  There are or have been many changes at USMA that have astounded me. Many of these have been addressed elsewhere by others whose eloquence is far beyond my humble skill. I cannot add to their words, but I can and do object to the patronizing responses their questions generated from the successive Supe's or their representatives.

[591]  The Army currently has a greater need for technology minded officers with all the latest in technology advances in vehicles and weapon systems. Unfortunately, those officers who perform well in this environment are the very officers leaving active service. As a former FA officer, I feel like the remaining artillery officer corps is not fully prepared to handle the existing new artillery vehicle technology.

[592]  I am very concerned about the apparent de-emphasis on the profession of arms and combat arms branch selection by male cadets

[593]  I feel that Cadets should continue to receive increased weekend passes and that first classmen should be allowed to leave post when they wish. It does the army no good to receive young Lieutenants that are socially stunted because they have been locked away for 4 years.

[594]  Change in Reserve versus Regular commissions.

[595]  I prefer to reserve specific comments until I've had some tome to assess the current situation. In general, I am concerned that USMA and the Army have been drifting away from the hard discipline and training necessary for producing warriors. Too often the priority is on doing that which is deemed "politically correct" rather than that which we should do to produce trained soldiers.

[596]  The focus of USMA has turned to academic rather than military development. The current graduates do not have the discipline (shown by the widespread lack of punctuality and standards), which should be addressed by tightening the standards at USMA.

[597]  It appears to be wandering in the purpose of the Academy since its inception.

[598]

[599]  - Attempts to issue Reserve instead of Regular Army Commissions to grads. - Civilianization.

[600]  I can't say for sure since I am not up to date about current USMA policy and issues.

[601]  Civilianization of the faculty Perceived erosion of political support The fact that the 1000th black graduated in the same class as the 1000th female - don't you see something amiss with that? The racial issue is NEVER discussed. PS. I am white.

[602]  USMA has apparently rolled over in the current rush to make our military gender neutral, politically correct ineffective, undersized and overburdened. I hear no voice of resistance. And I am terribly disappointed.

[603]  Concerned about the high number of classmates dropping out and not fulfillling their commitement !

[604]  curiculum "demilitarization" and "political correctness".

[605]  I have not keep up with the progress, except for one visit 2 years ago.

[606]  VERY concerned about the new standards (PE etc.) to accomodate female cadets (that's a contradiction in itself!). I will never forget the activities of July 1, 1946,; and, if anything has been done to diminish or reduce the pressure put on new cadets on day one of beast barracks, I think I'll return to give the supe an earfull.

[607]  Do not want to lose focus on the requirement for disciplined, service oriented graduates ready to fully serve their country selflessly

[608]  Not informed enough to make an opinion.

[609]  This may be an unfair comment, but my impression is that the military academy is trying very hard to become a civilian university. I was a tenured professof at a major American university, and am currently emeritus. I think you might be moving in the wrong direction if you are in fact losing the systems and discipline that once marked the acdemic process at the Academy. I said it before, but I will repeat it again. We should do everything we can to retain and foster the uniqueness of the Academy.

[610]  The degree to which giving to the Academy has developed over the past few years. Warrior Spirit vs college like any other

[611]  The admission of female cadets is a concern to me. It is a step in the wrong direction.

[612]  Although I agree with many of the changes that have gone on at the Academy, I am afraid that some of the changes may have gone too far. Specifically, I am afraid that, from what I have heard from recent graduates and cadets and from what I have read, that the discipline and intensity that the Academy used to instill in graduates may be lacking. I feel that the Fourth class system, although it had some shortfalls and needed to be reevaluated, should have been maintained in a manner other than what it is now.

[613]  I am disturbed by the "touchy-feely" direction that USMA has taken. While I deplore the sexual harassment problems that have rocked the Army, and feel strongly that all are entitled to just and fair treatment, I never had the idea that "respect for others" was one of two "bedrock value" of the Academy. It smacks of political correctness. Maybe it is just the term, but many of my contemporaries (I am a contractor for an Air Staff office with many USAFA graduates) rolled their eyes at that one. We train men and women for a harsh and unforgiving job. They should respect others, but that is already inherent in our THREE bedrock values: duty, honor, country. If cadets don't understand this by the time they graduate, the Academy has failed.

[614]  More cadet run activities. I cannot emphasize this enough. there is TOO MUCH OFFICER INVOLVEMENT IN DAY TO DAY CADET ACTIVITIES. Tactical officers who are not graduates do not understand the Cadet's leadership abilities and concerns and run cadet companies as if it were a company command. On the average they micromanage and stifile cadet inititive.

[615]  USMA needs to down size to reinstill the sense of commaraderie, honor, and unity of purpose it once had. It is more appropriate with the down sizing of the Armed forces.

[616]  Much of what I read on the net leads me to believe that there is more emphasis on being politically correct than operationally ready- more on education than on military skills. It may be more the trend than the absolute values that bother me.

[617]  1. Changes in cadet perception of honer code (can no longer leave a watch on room table...euphemisim is "...it was borrowed..."). 2. Length of active service comittment, particularly with graduates being asdked to pony up for "quality of life" costs. 3. Loss of Regular Army commission.

[618]  The latest revisions are getting us back to where we should be.

[619]  it's getting to easy, no this isn't an I graduated and the corps has thing, but from what I've heard things have really changed and the standards are really slipping, we need to get back to the way things were even before I got there and bring the fourth class system back, not this cleds stuff

[620]  In attempts over the years to become more competitive with civilian universities and to become more politically correct USMA has lost some (too much)of it's uniqueness and focused mission. The recent branch assignments for the class of '98 shows much too much dimunition of Army mission and purpose, largely in favor of personal agendas of the graduates. I think the Supe's direction is better but still a little tentative.

[621]  Clearly I hadn't scrolled to this point before comments made above ... see 15 above et alia. USMA MUST clearly be able to continually demonstrate that graduates 1) stay for full military careers in DRAMATICALLY higher percentages that ROTC, 2) that they perform demonstrably better at COMBAT platoon and COMBAT company levels, and 3) that they acquire an education not offered at any other US college or university. If WP cannot do that, tradition alone simply cannot guarantee institutional survival.

[622]  As stated above, West Point's job is too produce leaders of character and I don't see what all the physical development has to do with develping character

[623]  The "civilianization" of the Military Academy is well-known and as the Administration opts not to accept such a label, I guess it's useless to comment further. Most meals being optional--sometimes you do things you don't want to do because they're important. The lack of anything resembling the 4th Class System that I knew only 10 years ago.

[624]  It is not the USMA that I attended. It has become a political football that has numbed down the status and capabilities of the grads. I am sad to see a school with peeling paint and a country not concerned with the education of leaders that will defend all of our futures.

[625]  The emphasis SAT, ACT, and GPA is becoming too great, while the atheletic backgrounds of cadets are becoming quite embarassing. While I recognize there is some value to achievements in arts, music, speech, and etc., there is no denying the fact that physical prowess is just as important as the other areas. Doing well on two minutes of puchups, situps, and a 2-mile doesn't mean one is an athelete. In short, we need more cadets with a history of atheletic achievement.

[626]  During the 15 year reunion, I became aware of several policy changes in the military leadership/disciplinary area that disturbed me. I was particularly concerned with the Academy's effort to make the fourth class experience more "politically correct". If cadets cannot adequately deal will stress and adverse conditions in a training environment, they certainly won't do any better in the real world where its REALLY difficult. Hard decisions are made by people that have the confidence to stand up in the face of adversity. From my understanding of the new policies, our future leaders will not be ready to face the challenges that await them when they become commissioned officers.

[627]  Becoming too politically correct- must maintain its counter-cultural ethical base- must not become"mainstream"

[628]  The whole process appears to be very touchy-feely. The goal should be to produce combat commanders that are as tough as is practical. I know we have girls and coed "dormitories" but someone should remember that there are wars.

[629]  Iam concerned that the mission continues to be to train officers and that the process is not overly civilianized. If USMA looka too much like a normal university then the questin will again be asked, "Why have this expensive place. ROTC can do the job."

[630]  -Solution to the RA Commission issue that retains the RA Commission for USMA graduates upon their graduation. -Possible distraction from focus on combat leadership within Duty,Honor,Country concept. -Action which appears to reflect fascination with making USMA over into an "Ivy League" college.

[631]

[632]  Since I can't say I am familiar with question 27, above, I can't very well take issue with, or express satisfaction with said policies.

[633]  from rumors (classmate gossip) it looks as if the demand for individual leadership is being degraded to satisfy diversity

[634]  N/A

[635]  I am not concerned with the leadership or direction of the Academy. I am concerned about the external influences from Washington that can materially influence a decreasing role and importance of all the academies. The forces can, and probably will, alter the desired direction of our Academy.

[636]  West Point has become too Politically Correct. The warrior ethic has been attacked. Get back to basics and educate and train leaders who will win our nation's future wars. Use merit and competence as a measure of success. Raise the standards, don't lower them. What happened to the OML? Diversity should not be a goal. Diversity is not a strength. It is an undermining weakness erodes the bonds of unit cohesiveness.

[637]  Dan Christman doing great. Support him.

[638]

[639]  Discipline of the Corps Excess priviliges too early Lack of DA and Congressional support Have we gone too far with academic majors

[640]  It has become a college where the students wear uniforms rather than a Military Academy. Not enough emphasis on military training or retention in the service after graduation.

[641]  It seems to be getting softer from the rumors I've heard (reductions in the forth class system etc.)

[642]  1. Sorry, but I don't believe we need female cadets. 2. It makes me sad to see "civilians" trying to interfere with the honor system.

[643]  setting high standard that is ahead of the army and provides the basis and foundation for the entire officer corps.

[644]  i feel there is some concern with the changes made since 1949

[645]  I am in the process of completing a career of Federal Service of over 30 years. While I elected to resign after my four year commitment, I feel that I have faithfully served the Nation in a way that I was able to make my best contribution. Thus, it should be no surprise that I feel that commitment to a career in the Army (exclusive of other service) is too narrow a focus.

[646]  Is there any one place where such items are consisely stated?

[647]  I generally feel that West Point places too much emphasis on science and engineering - not enough on the "soft" sciences.

[648]  1. That cadets have to compete for active duty slots with ROTC contemperaries.

[649]  We need to ensure USMA graduate serve their entire tour of five or six years. Understand this is an army issue not a USMA issue, but thought it was ludicrous to allow voluntary separation after 2-3 years.

[650]  Focus on the work--producing high quality, educated, 2nd Lt's who will continue the traditions of the Army.

[651]  See 29 & 30 below

[652]  Commission only regular officers unless a medical situation would dictate otherwise.

[653]  I disagree with the preferencial recruiting/appointment status of varsity atheletes.

[654]  I am not familiar enough with the current direction of USMA to comment.

[655]  I am very worried about the potential erosion of discipline and the possible collapse of morale illustrated by the (admittedly secondhand) reports of the disappearence of the 4th Class System and of "blood-pinning". I believe that much of the best I learned at USMA was about myself, and was in plebe year. The declining attrition rate is not necessarily the best of news...I realize this is a controversial topic, and have great respect for the leadership at USMA, who struggles under difficult political strictures...

[656]  Graduates not getting regular commissions Different standards for males and females Pay scales have not kept up with inflation

[657]  Need for emphasis on preparation for a lifetime of military or public service; stronger emphasis on duty, honor, country

[658]  Let's not lose the warrior spirit which is essential to success on the battlefield. Today the academic program is superb. Cadets have numerous classes to choose, and the enrichment programs are superb. Let's not lose focus however. We are producing battlefield leaders. Don't allow faddish courses and activities to infiltrate the curriculum or program of instruction

[659]  A solid, well publicized method of equal treatment of women and minorities.

[660]  Plebe "year" needs to be more difficult

[661]  Academy doing excellent in academics but do not like what I hear from new graduates about the feeling of comradery. With the mix of male and female cadets, there is also an atmosphere of "we and they" regarding the vigors of training. This is based upon talking with both male and female cadets.

[662]  I sent comments to the Supe regarding the mission statement. I am glad to see he considered our remarks (and put "iinspire" back in the wording)! I wonder if we define ourselves too narrowly, though, by saying "US ARMY' vice "US ARMED FORCES." Who knows what it'll be called in 50 years! Also, some people cross-commission, so they aren't going into the "ARMY."

[663]  1. admission of females 2. no RA commissions 3. changes in academic program 4. Hiding class standing by listing alphabetically

[664]  Decline/Loss of the 4th class system The development of a new mission statement?? No more IOCT?? Graduate Schooling Reserve Comissions

[665]  The current product is flawed.

[666]  - Political correctness is draining the challenge away from the academy

[667]  I believe that the recent bruhaha concerning leadership was incredible and should not have happened.

[668]  Increased emphasis on academics and decrease in military education/studies

[669]  Deterioration of existing facilities at USMA

[670]  - see above statement -

[671]  the emphasis thru the West Point Fund appears to be athletics-oriented, rather than the "whole man" concept we were familiar with as cadets. It appears the emphasis is specialization, and a relaxing of requirements to be well-rounded and to be generally proficient Relaxation of honor code is of great concern

[672]  I just can't say I am satisfied with the present direction. I recognize the need to make the "experience" relative to the present generation, but I feel that we have given away too much. I recognize that the way we were treated was not the way you would be expected to treat soldiers, and we learned incorrect lessons. It's better the way more people are involved in leadership, ant that's a plus. But some of the "hardships" need to be back in the "experience" so that cadets learn to cope with life the way it is going to be in the real world..e.g., extended overseas deployments to unpleasant places to perform missions you may not personnaly support.

[673]  My major concern is a DoD matter that will eventually affect USMA - the DoD is in dire need of reorganization. First, there are four branches of service, each having duplicate funtions. Why four branches? Add the JCS, more duplication. When the support functions are examined, more duplication. What happens when funding is cut to a level that requires further reduction of the service academy's budgets? Are the academies too large, too many graduating per year? What size graduating class can be easily absorbed into the active military?

[674]  I have grave concern about the wisdom of inviting an avowed communist from addressing 2nd class cadets on the meaning of freedom. It would seem that there are so many better qualified persons to speak to this issue than one whose life has been devoted to the undermining of the very essence of freedom we enjoy!

[675]  Commissioning cadet graduates as Resrve Officers.

[676]  Similar to my concerns for the Army. Seems as though the emphasis has turned away from warfighting and is more socially/politically oriented.

[677]  honor code looks to be in trouble (which all classes say after they leave; it should stand as an uncompromised rock w/o political meddling) size of Corps -- cost effective? changing from RA commissions to Reserve commissions & letting cadets resign prior to the end of their commitment -- stupid.

[678]  I thought the plebe year hazing that I received was silly. I went to WP for an education and to become an Army officer, not to run around screaming and slamming up against some upper classman's locker. At the same time, just glancing at a letter in the Jan-Feb 98 "Assembly," I'm not sure spending Beast Barracks time discussing hair styling options is the way to go.

[679]  I believe that graduates should be directly commissioned in the regular army after a qualifying period of three years.

[680]  Fund raising; sky boxes; bicentennial monument (eagle in Lusk reservoir is an awful idea), RA commissions; decreased emphasis on combat leadership

[681]  Need more information

[682]  I am concerned that USMA is moving further away from what should be, and was, its primary mission to train future officers to be combat leaders.

[683]  1. Seems to have lost some of its ability to provide leaders who serve the common defense.

[684]  Why does the Academy need another new mission statement? Why not grab one of the old ones? It will be changed in a few years anyhow.

[685]  Relaxation of standards. Apparent leadership training deficiences. Questionable training of "real world" in Army.

[686]  Civilianization of faculty is not good. Military faculty looked very shabby in their civilian clothes (jeans, etc) at the last home football game. They looked like a bunch of Blue Collar workers, not the fine officers they are. At a time when USMA is coming under fire, the faculty should be identifiable to the public and should look professional. The Superintendent's change in policy allowing the staff & faculty to attend football games in civilian clothes is wrong and should be reversed.

[687]  I have many concerns. One is that USMA is straying from its core mission by promoting too many extracurricular activities and by failing to stress that the purpose of USMA is to pursue a lifetime career in the Army. Also, I do not favor academic majors. Modern needs a hard core of officers with broad technologically oriented education. Also, let's keep USMA an undergraduate institution and stop trying to turn it into a research or graduate studies center.

[688]  academy graduates should be commissioned as regular army officers not reserve officers as some enlightened idiots have mandated. This situation should be changed before tackling a "new direction".

[689]  Don't get too soft in Beast

[690]  1) Commissioning of WP Graduates for active duty and not competing for active duty slots

[691]  -- Type of commission received upon graduation -- 4th Class System -- New manner in which cadets receive their academic year military training

[692]  Focus on academic excellence a priority over military training and preparation for the Army.

[693]  As the oldest engineering college in the Nation, it has departed from its original mission in favor of creating a "generalized" education. At the same time, it has departed dramatically from the practice of accountability. Standards are standards, and mandatory, not desirable goals.

[694]  I am concerned that service commitment has been lessened I am also concerned at measures that may "civilianize" the academy.

[695]  When West Point is attacked in the press or media, the AoG should take a more aggressive stance to get our side, or the truth, out to the major media. We also should support our Navy and Air Force counterparts on like issues, for example, the Kelly Flinn affair (pun INtended) and courtmartial. 'Honor Scandals' is another issue.

[696]  As a cadet, instructors continually downplayed that it wasn't important where an officer graduated from, but what he/she accoplished. If that is the case, then why bother having an academy? The active Army downplays it within the officer corps as well, but my 300+ enlisted soldiers seem to think its important. I do too...

[697]  - The lack of producing Army officers for long term as the focus of the USMA mission statement. The drawdown is over and its time to return to the academy's reason for existance. - The increasing assignment of new academy graduates away from the combat arms

[698]  USMA graduates should receive Regular Army commissions upon graduation.

[699]  I think the last few administrations of West Point have tried to be too "politically correct" in the changes that have been made to the fourth class system. I do not advocate hazing or physical abuse of plebes, but I think the system is in danger of going too far the other direction. I have heard and read the arguments of the new system and how it is every bit as tough as it has ever been. However, I am not convinced. My limited conversation with current plebes leads me to believe that they are not being challenged to their fullest. Much, if not all, of my modest personal success can be directly and nearly totally attributed to the adverserial conditions I faced and overcane during my plee year. It was a tremendous character building experience. I hope it continues to be that way for future plebes.

[700]  I fully support the process presently used by the "Supe" - participation definitely increases ownership. I agree with broadening WP's mission to provide the country with strong leadership in sectors other than the military, especially in this time of a shrinking active duty. As a Reserve officer, I do not think that WP's contribution to the Reserve ranks should be minimized. Officers leaving AD should be educated and encouraged to continue service to the nation in the inactive ranks.

[701]  The policy of graduating West Pointers with Reserve Commissions just like the ROTC may seem to be an egalitarian step to some, but to me it is an unbelieveable step in the direction of ending the Military Academy as it exists today. USMA graduates are not the same as ROTC graduates, never have been, and should not be treated the same.

[702]  Elimination of Area Tours Elimination/reduction of mandatory meals

[703]  During my class reunion this fall, General Christman, along with the Dean and Com gave us an excellent talk about the direction in which they are taking West Point. I believe we have excellent leadership in those positions and support them.I support the Supe's proposed change in the mission of the Corps. However, I would like to see more emphasis on new cadets entering the Academy with an Army career as their number 1 goal and that goal continuing to be stressed throughout the four years that they are there. I agree with the change in leadership emphasis being the spirit of Scolfield's definition, rather than the complete degradation of the person that we experienced; however, there should never be any question in a new cadet's mind that Plebe year is one of the most demanding years of his/her life to that point, that the honor code is inviolable, that duty, honor, country is a code they are to live by for the rest of their lives and that service to our country through service in the Army is a most notable and rewarding career. I have classmates who tell me that they would not assign recent(late 60s, early 70s) grads in their commands to command small units because they were lacking in the integrity it takes to command a unit. This occurred during the Vietnam period, and apparently many of the instructors at West Point did not set a good example for them. There should not be any element of academic and military leadership at the Academy that does not support the goals of the Academy and the Army 100 percent. The role model of the instructor was one of the major influences on me personally and I think it still exists. Any effort to dilute that role model (and I suspect the increase in civilian instructors is a big minus in that regard) is a disservice to the Cadets. I am pleased with the move to electives with a strong core curriculum. It was being planned when I taught Math at West Point. I believe in a strong core group of studies, but the freedom to move into other areas allows the Cadet to pursue areas in which he has most interest, and yet have an education important to a young officer. Last summer, I wrote a ballad about the Long Gray Line over the past 200 years and challenged the future members of the Long Gray Line as follows: "May all of our future grads be ever proud to serve When answering the country's call, may you never lose your nerve May the future of the Long Gray Line continue in our stride May Duty, Honor, Country always be your guide." I would have difficulty supporting any policies that do not support that challenge to the future.

[704]  1) I do Not believe that 'work details' are proper way of punishing cadets. Demeans the officer corps and cadets perception of same. Go back to room con/walking. 2) Why bother changing mission statement?

[705]  Lack of focus in developing Army Officers rather than academics and future civilians. My perception of recent graduates and their lack of pride, dedication, and responsibility to the Army first - self second.

[706]  I am concerned about the direction in which the Army in general is heading, and West Point is falling right in line with the Army. For example, some soldiers aren't joining the Army today to be soldiers. They are joining to "do their time" and get money for college. I have to wonder what the percentage of incoming cadets that WANT to serve as an officer in the Army.

[707]  I have recently read the beast/new cadet procedures from earlier days have been replaced by R-Day/a new approach which sounds very unlike what I experienced. I do not think my experience was the end all/be all; however, what little I have read in Assembly causes me to question the adequacy/effectiveness of this new approach. This rather abrupt departure from past practices is bothersome to say the least.

[708]  Who would ever be happy with "current direction?" I need to know more.

[709]  It sure seems like it is becoming civilianized. I don't know enough about the current state of the 4th class system. I am interested in hearing the current number of years currently part of a grads committment.

[710]  PERCEPTION ONLY: I'd like to ensure that USMA remains focused on its military mission and avoids trying to become an Ivy League clone with pretty uniforms. I have no factual basis for this concern, but have heard rumblings from classmates and other friends who are on the faculty there. It may be the usual "disgruntled old graduate" carping, but it is still a concern of mine.

[711]  why are they changing the mission statement again. I thought the current one was fine. The Army leadership should provide the reqt to change the mission statement for West Point

[712]  I want to see USMA continue to provide a well rounded, forward-looking, undergraduate education. The breadth of my West Point education has served me well. I do not support allowing cadets to pursue esoteric "majors" unless they have the solid grounding that is needed for their Army career.

[713]  The dramatic way that plebe year has changed in the last several yrs (I'm a '91 grad). It is NOT the same place it used to be, and many grads are very mad and apathetic (look at recent grads financial contributions!) Basic training soldiers now face a more physically and mentally rigorous program than do Academy grads (no yelling at plebes??!! haven't they seen basic training??!!). This is a sad commentary indeed.

[714]  Just like every "old grad", I'm fearful that the disciplinary standards and sense of "toughness" are degrading.

[715]  Invite graduates (now civilians), who have at least a Masters degree, to come back as an instructor.

[716]  Just glad to see us turning more toward emphasizing leadership in the military as a career and de-emphasizing civilian service. IF we lose our focus on producing military leaders, we have to compete with other institutions that provide civilian leaders. Doesn't make sense. I never agreed with that change to the mission statement. There are enough distractors out there to entice grads away from the uniform. We need the Academy to propel grads toward a 20 year career. If they don't start out with this notion, it is difficult to embed the notion later on. EACH graduate should at least be CONSIDERING a 20 year career...that should be an implied expectation...else why go to West Point? I know this is unpopular and the minority opinion.

[717]  Differing standards for women, especially as they directly influence men's standards

[718]  The large number of perminant party military officers here. There are too many. They are resistors to change.

[719]  1. The reserve commission at graduation (vs. regular army) 2. Creating warriors.

[720]  - Disagree with quality of life initiatives designed to ease transition of 1st class to 2nd Lt. I believe that they diminish the unique nature of the West Point experience and add little social value.

[721]  I am concerned with the amount of pressure that you are bringing to bear on graduates to fund things that should either be funded by tax payers, or not be funded. Period. If our government is not prepared to fund things that you think they should, then convince them to fund them, or drop that activity/function. I'm tired of my own class mates bugging me for class gifts. I have no sympathies with their goals. Just MHO!

[722]  Need more info.

[723]  1. RA commissions upon graduation. 2. Return practice of placing cadets in companies according to height. 3. For public ceremonies such as parade and reviews, have cadets pass in review in battalion mass rather than what seems an endless passing of individual platoons.

[724]  I have heard that congress has mandated a decrease in the number of active duty instructors at USMA. This shortfall is to be made up by civilian professors. If true, this concerns me a great deal. Especially if these professors are not funded adequately to ensure a quality faculty.

[725]  I believe USMA has shifted from a military focus and a broad based academic program designed to develop a strong analytical and liberal arts foundation for life and service to an Academic focus with majors and less of a broad foundation. This may have led to better ivy league like candidates attending the academy but I believe has also led to a junior officer corp that is not in touch with their soldiers and one that gets out of the military as soon as possible. What are the stats on the percentage of grads leaving the military for the classes since 1980?

[726]  It seems that the entire focus of the AOG and USMA is financial. It is reality, but sad.

[727]  Preparation for service in our current Army. Discontinuation of area tours

[728]  Before non-graduates do it, objectively evaluate relevance of current USMA structure in these days of a smaller force, limited budget and excellent alternatives (ROTC).

[729]  My non- West Point colleagues still on active duty tell me USMA graduates lean more towards technology, computers and simulations versus combat arms pursuits, and that the major ROTC schools, i.e. North Georgia, etc., produce "harder" junior officers. I realize this reflects society in general, but I work at Ga Tech and alot of our students use computers and use them well, but they don't live for computers and they want to be good, solid engineers. Perhaps looking at how USMA does the same thing, i.e. technology literate officers focused on troop level assignments.

[730]  - I believe that West Point does an excellent job of striving to maintain its relevancy as an institution - I'm concerned about the declining size of the military and the decreasing number of people with military experience who truly undestand what West Point is all about and how it serves its country. - I saw a football game this year at which the cadets wore BDU's to the game. I don't think that doing so sets the appropriate image for the public. I believe tat doing so tends to cause people to blur the line between what West Point is all about and any other army installation. As such, I think that its one of those things that slowly erodes West Point's image as a hallowed American institution.

[731]  Support Supt's apparent desire to re-emphasize commitment to commissioned service as reflected in his latest version of the mission statement.

[732]  maintain academic excellence of program and graduates; not drifting off into mindless 'huah' enthusiasms. Retraining for Graduates at critical career points (CGSC, War College, Command selection, GO selection, etc)

[733]  I am concerned that changes at USMA are made to better reflect society. I prefer that USMA maintain standards that society should aspire to.

[734]  Hard to answer since I'm not even aware that the Sup is seeking a new mission statement.

[735]  * Still don't like plebes being "recognized" at Spring Break

[736]  Aside from the fact that this year's football team "sucked", and I have strong doubts about the coach's ability to prevent a replay next year, I am happy with the direction that WP is headed.

[737]  As stated above, and again here, USMA has gone too soft. I taught in D/Soc Sci 81-84 and it was borderline to below standard then. The goal to graduate as many as possible from each incoming class instead of culling the class and stressing it - is wrong. Do commanders in the field look forward to getting West Pointers? How do West Pointers compare to ROTC scholarship Lts? Help influence the administration to not make the experience too easy, too politically correct and not focused enough to produce graduates who will serve longer and better in the Army. Encourage the male cadets to be warrior-leaders.

[738]  Becoming too soft.

[739]  Disappointed in the current direction to turn school into an Ivy League college. It is the Military Academy. It is to develop leaders in peace to lead in War. The current 'pc' attitude and concern about feelings is undermining the bonds that exist from the first graduating class to the most recent. In the early '70s a new cadet quit during beast because he had problems yelling that the purpose of the bayonet is to kill. So the staff over reacted to change the chant to the purpose is to close with and destroy the enemy. The staff should have just said, well there goes another person who would not have made a good combat leader. The senior staff now in the old TD are just like that staff 25 years ago, and have lost focus on the true purpose of the MILITARY ACADEMY.

[740]  West Point has become too politically correct. USMA must be able to differentiate itself from ROTC schools. Failure to do so will result in the eventual dissolution of the school. What is it with plebes getting weekends away from school, no more area tours, majors in non-engineering specialties, etc? Give me a break!

[741]  1. Better break out of what is appropriation funded and what is "donation" funded. 2. Use of BDU for class room attendance gives impression more of "training center" than "academic" institution. CGSC and AWC do not regularly use BDU, why USMA?

[742]  One of the most valuable lessons I received from West Point was surviving the stress of beast barracks and plebe year. I drew on this experience in combat and have continued to draw on it in my professional career as a lawyer. I am concerned that changes in the system have deemphasized warrior training and substituted an emphasis on political training.

[743]  -Have been unhappy with academic broadening (i.e., majors, etc.) since inception. Should return to "General Engineering for all". -Believe "changes" have been instituted (honor code)to be politically correct, but are counter to keeping with the absolute that honor represents. -Do not believe that women should have been allowed at any of the academies until the bigger issue of women in combet was resolved-academies do not exist to train QM officers. I recognize the equal rights and federal funding issue exists, but its legal mumbo jumbo. Academies exist to train Combat Arms officers. -Think the academies should take a close look at returning to smaller (2400??) enrollment. The services (at least the Army) are significantly smaller that ten or twenty years ago. What percent are really staying in the service for a career? Can we save significantly in operational costs? Is this political suicide by the reigning superintendent? -Do not agree with "civilianization" of faculty. As I understand it, Congress dictated it some years ago (I may be misinformed) but that doesn't mean I have to agree. Some years ago, when I was teaching Math, I had for a time wondered why I was there, not having perceived myself as "smart". We were all Vietnam Vets. One day, the lights went off in Thayer Hall in the middle of class. Not knowing what to do, I asked the Cadets in my class (in the dark)what they wanted to talk about. The first question was, "Sir, what's it like to be shot at?". A civilian may have a PhD, but he can't answer that one. I knew why I was there. -What's wrong with the Academy mission statement?? Nothing that I can see, other than we're not fulfilling it anymore. Therefore, change the mission!!! Rationalization...

[744]  Fourth class system has disappeared Spartan attitude is gone

[745]  Why tamper with success? I am concerned that USMA will be "modernized" to a mission that is less than Duty, Honor, Country.

[746]  I am concerned that the mission of West Point does not focus on providing officers to the Army, but rather leaders for America. The distict impression provided to some new grads (after about 1990 when the mission changed) is that service in the Army was a secondary concern.

[747]  Concern that graduates do not get a regular commission

[748]  I wish that I had more information on which to base an answer. There are things occuring at the Academy that I am sure I DO NOT approve of - but lack information on which to base a response.

[749]  Focus on pure academic excellence in accessions rather than all around leadership potential. Maintaining focus on leadership and personal integrity in the midst of a society that seems to value neither. The West Point experience must be different from all the other academic institutions. If the West Point officer is no better on average than his ROTC peers, then we might just as well close the place.

[750]  Expedient Pursuit of the Politically Correct.

[751]  Every year it seems, USMA is being transformed more and more into a regular civilian university. It is losing its distinction as a military school.

[752]  Emphasis that we are only producing military leaders, not soldier / statesmen or businessmen

[753]  1.Management of the Honor Code 2.A shift of values from toughness and combat leadership to a softer developmental model which may not serve as the right of passage required to create a sense of elitism and cohesion.Someday West Pointers will have to lead in battle again. 3. An overemphasis on football. West Point should be in the Ivy League. 4. Undue emphasis on retention of entering cadets. A reasonable rejection rate is necessary for those who remain to believe they are a special group. Someone should read the literature asociated with cohesion, rites of passage, and creation of elite organizations.

[754]  1. Regular Army Commission 2. Inadequate Congressional Funding

[755]  The impression I get is that the Academy is moving more in the direct of becoming an academic institution than a military institution. This may be a necessary evil but it is still a point of concern.

[756]  I am concerned with what appears to be a growing dependency on private contributions for what I consider essential activities, facilities, and programs. Are the other academies, or other small colleges similarly dependent?

[757]  I know Dan Christman. I have total confidence in him and the directions that he is taking West Point.

[758]  Change in Regular Army Commissions

[759]  Have seen lots of discussion recently about WP recent grads being out of touch with what 'some' old grads believe the mission of the Academy should be.

[760]  My primary concern is somewhat general in nature. I fear that current and future cadets are not exposed to, and will not learn soon enough, the realities of leadership in today's Army in terms of field, garrison, and social interactions between seniors, peers, and soldiers; military experience (eg. basic training similar in nature to what their soldiers will go through); career progression requirements; and generally, life after USMA.

[761]  Its difficult for a busy person to keep abreast of USMA issues/functions/changes -- AOG appeals to those that are really "in" to keeping up, but offers little for those who would like to keep in touch.

[762]  See Item #17 response!!

[763]  Cadet Leadership program

[764]  1. Reserve/RA commission issue 2. Need better athletic facilities 3. Erosion of 4th class system

[765]  I am uneasy with the apparent decreased emphasis on academics and extra-curricular activities other than athletics.

[766]  I disagree with going into a football conference.

[767]  I think there have been some really interesting points made in the West Point Forum. (Really should have good AOG interaction/representation there). I'm very concerned about the direction that USMA is taking in regards to the 4th class system. Fallout after Spring Break, no yelling at the plebes---we're taking the heat out of the forging process!! AOG needs to find out what the grad's think about this and make the current USMA administration understand how the LGL views the forging process.

[768]  Loss of uniqueness. Loss of Military focus.

[769]  I have noticed a general trend over the last 6 years of new graduates not giving the proper respect to senior officers once they graduate. I noticed this trend as a captain before I left the Army and have received several complaints about it from friends and former commanders who are still in the Army. I do not know if the relationships between cadets and their professors or sponsors at West Point is contributing to this trend but many officers are disappointed with the attitude and military bearing of a good portion of recent graduates. When new second lts are passing Majors and LTCs in the hall and saying "what's up" without even using the word "sir" something is definitely wrong.

[770]  I do not know, but I have been told that not all graduates are assured regular army assignments. If the army is being downsized to the point where it can no longer absorb the full graduating class, then West Point should also be downsized, as painful as that might be.

[771]  As a graduate and former member of the USMA faculty, I am disillusioned by the day to day direction of the Academy. As an officer on active duty, I must restrain from making comments about my former chain of command.

[772]  I am very concerned that we have already eroded those things that made USMA "Special". We continue (or so it seems to me) to push to be 'just like' other colleges. We were not. When we are, West Point will be deleted by congress. I support designated degrees, but the pendulum of 'don't stress the cadets' seems to have gone so far that there is little or no difference between what a cadet does and what an ROTC student does. We need to keep a military focus, and to push the cadets to produce superior leaders, not just 'average' leaders. We already lost RA commissioning for each class - what's next?

[773]  Drift toward a typical college environment rather than military. Shift away from tough standards for fourth class cadets

[774]  I am concerned that the focus of the academy's cadet programs has led to a dichotomous relationship between what I would call "USMA Exceptionalism" vs. "we need to do everything the way the army does it". I believe that USMA needs to prove that it is an exceptional environment for leadership development if it wants to continue to exist. However, what I have noticed firsthand is a desire in the USMA leadership to match what the army as a whole is doing. This, I believe, plays into the hands of those who would do away with USMA and commission all officers through ROTC programs. An interesting point was made by an officer in a recent Assembly who felt that basic trainees had a much more stressful indoctrination environment then West Pointers. His points seemed to be backed up in the "feel good" Sunday New York Times Article. Old Grad Gripes? Maybe so, but I have had many cadets lament in class that they feel that they are being cheated out of whhat they thought the West Point experience was all about. Academically, emphasis on "majors" has made the curriculum chase national accreditation boards instead of dtermining which are the best core courses cadets need to have.

[775]  Perceived lack of support for athletic programs. Decreased support in Congress and OMB.

[776]  Need more emphasis on the officer-NCO and officer-enlisted relationships

[777]  USMA seems to be adrift in the sea of political correctness instead of sticking to the business of developing combat leaders.

[778]  1. Moving to a greater concentration of civilian faculty. 2. Deviating from its original mission of providing officers for a lifetime career in the combat arms. West Point should not be in the business of providing the Army with doctors, lawyers, and managers of logistics. Other institutions can do this better and more cheaply. 3. The de-emphasis of athletics -- particularly intercollegiate athletics. Emphasis on academeic success at the expense of developing the Platonic ideal of a sound mind and a sound body. Let the geeks go to Cal Tech and M.I.T. (i.e. my Research Assistant who played against the Cadet Rugby team said they were the most poorly physically conditioned team that they played against.)

[779]  Perhaps it is because I just read Blackwell's book on the 1951 honor scandal or that I am a member of the Class of '77 and observed the EE honor schandal in 1976, I see a disconnect between the Supe's desire to "greatly" improve the football team while at the same time he is emphasizing the cadet's dedication to the Army to include a career. The AOG should ensure that the Corps remains one entity.

[780]  I am afraid that I don't know enough about "Where USMA is going" to give you a list of issues or policies that concern me.

[781]  The Academy needs to aggressively change; not to keep up with changes in society, but to be on the leading edge. That said, one area in which I believe the Academy must be uncompromising is the Honor Code. My impression is that continues to be the case and that is good.

[782]  Well-meaning people, from the Supe down, who have the "big picture," make pronouncements and act in good faith on behalf of the Academy. Interested parties without all the information, from cadets to grads to friends, don't always have the facts to assess the actions fairly. The resulting feedback is then discounted by the USMA Staff as uninformed or emotionally based. The process then repeats itself on the next iteration.

[783]  We say something liuke "leaders of character" but I don't see any discussion of what that means, and through doiscussion with recent grads in the field Army, I fear that there is little character in those of the most recent vintage (94 on). I think that the "sacking" of the directlr of BS&L as reported in WSJ is an indicator that the Academy cares more about being touchy-feely nice than developing leaders with character, the strength to do the harder right instead of the easier wrong.

[784]  Believe our emphasis should be on duty to the military; which will indirectly support and benefit the nation. I believe WP is putting out graduates better suited for civilian life and not the military.

[785]  Not familiar enough with the issues to comment.

[786]  Traditions are the glue that holds us together. We must change with the times but we must avoid developing a "collegiate" environment. I do not know whether the old SCUSA conference by the debate council and forum is still being held. This is the kind of thing that I believe should be expanded and which USMA should lead. Our cadets should be visible as leaders and as thinkers. The Army's role in world affairs has been growing as in Bosnia and other "peace keeping" activites. We must expand cadet activites to match.

[787]  How would I know.

[788]  It appears that USMA keeps its distance from the Army Reserve. I believe this serves neither USMA's nor the Armys interests. See also my comments on this topic in question 16.

[789]  women at USMA

[790]  The Fourth Class System The apparent subjugation of military focus to "political correctness."

[791]  No oppinion

[792]  Too much focus on the "Citizen" Soldier.The real focus has to be "Military Leadership" and if that means a smaller Academy for a smaller force-that's fine.

[793]  Number of civilian instructors compared to active duty Army instructors

[794]  Relaxation of discipline as a learning process Deliberate reduction of stress Reduction of standards for participation in team or individual sports Excessive focus on academic matters (majors, etc. vice maintaining balance in all matters)

[795]  Something is not right with 95% of those cadets who start graduating. I can't believe they have been forged under pressure, as we perhaps were. I'm not talking about mickey-mouse harassment (clothing formations, etc), but I cannot see what's wrong with raising one's voice or calling someone a derogatory name. Far worse will happen when the bullets fly. There's also something wrong with the cadet's perception of his/her mission there. So many want to apply their "academic major" to their branch selection, as if it matters. The Army wants junior leaders, dedicated to their units and soldiers, not scholars, dedicated to themselves. The recent graduating classes have turned out some doozies who don't know the meaning of selfless service, e.g. the breast-feeding Blackhawk pilot, LT Cuevas and her spineless husband. Something is not getting through to the Corps' collective brainpan, and it may be the faculty.

[796]  The problem I see is not with USMA, but with the government's direction.

[797]  It appears that USMA keeps its distance from the Army Reserve. I believe this serves neither USMA's nor the Armys interests. See also my comments on this topic in question 16.

[798]  Want to ensure that WP continues to recruit fully qualified candidates - do not believe in quotas.

[799]  I have to admit that I'm not familiar enough with what is going on to appropriately answer this question.

[800]  softening of beast barracks, making sure the academy does not become soft on "honor'.

[801]  softening of the fourth class system

[802]  The loss of Regular Army commissioning was a monumental change for USMA and one which I believe was instrumented in order to diminish the importance of graduating from the Academy. A step toward making it like another ROTC source then having some Congressman say West Point costs too much, we need to eliminate it.

[803]  I think the academic program needs to return to the broad general education and get away from the special degree programs. Focus on the development of the whole man(woman) with broad engineering and social sciences that every cadet takes. The specialization is for graduate school.

[804]  The supe's focus on physical training facilities for the football team seems to me to be way off base. It is an issue, but a minor one.

[805]  There is discussion about making the Academy an Army 'graduate school' to further training of the officer corps. I think this would be too insular and tightly focused to benefit the military, and would detract from the primary mission of USMA.

[806]  I am very concerned that the Sup has to beg for money from the graduates to fund USMA programs. I think it is a national disgrace that the congress and the administration refuse to fund the service academies at the necessary level.

[807]  Absolutely; but few, if any of my recommendations are considered politically correct in this new environment.

[808]  The academy continues to follow the trend of our society which is continually approaching the "bleeding heart liberal" extreme. What kind of warriors do we think this can produce. Case in point: abolishment of punishment tours. No learning is as good as physical stimulus.

[809]  Thanks for asking. The entire development of a 'new USMA Mission Statement' seems much like an overdone navel inspection. The results of what's done at West Point, eg, turning out competent, focused and dedicated graduates, may be directly related to the mission statement revision exercise, but I seriously doubt it. The excellence of the output product continues, as it always will I expect, in spite of the drill, rather than as a direct function of it.

[810]  I am not in a position to comment about issues and policies at USMA, but neither do I want to say that I am "happy" with the direction that West Point is heading. I simply do not know if I am happy or unhappy until I do more homework and acquaint myself with the issues. I would then be in a better position to make this judgement.

[811]  West Point should review its policy on post-graduate atheletic participation to ensure a uniform policy that most benefits the Academy/Army. For instance, non-professional sport (eg Wrestling) participants can join the Army and continue their participation if they are highly competitive (Olympic level) with Army support. However, if a Football player gets drafted the Army has traditionally seen fit to force him into an Army career that will destroy his ability to participate. Clearly, Navy has bent rules to allow these people to go pro and having pro's supporting recruiting is in the best interest of USMA/Army. West Point should give these atheletes the incentive of knowing that, if they get drafted, they can pay back their education with dollars and/or reserve commitment.

[812]  Not aware of all the issues, but am concerned about discussions of Academy not being funded.

[813]  Movement away from officers as leaders toward officers as managers. The spirit of the bayonet is to kill, not gain a consensus.

[814]  My main concern is with the level of commitment the Academy is inculcating in the cadets. It is my perception that in a smaller Army, we are not retaining as many graduates as we did with older classes. Maybe this is reflective of the type of candidate we are recruiting or maybe it is a reflection of the the preparation we are giving cadets for their active duty service. Many are disappointed in what they find in the Army (I think because they had too high an expectation of LT and CPT duties). Many leave for money. Those obviously lost their sense of mission and service.

[815]  Not familiar enough with current USMA policies to comment.

[816]  Are we producing warriors? Seems that emphasis is off warfighting. We need tough warfighting leaders not technicians and clerks.

[817]  1. I find it hard to believe that new USMA grads are not receiving RA appontments. This is a slap in the face of the Academy and to all grads, past and future. 2. Women in the military (and the Academies). This is being terribly mismanaged and the public perception of what's happening couldn't be worse.

[818]  I think that USMA and the other academies could have, and possibly still can, establish the policy that although there is an unarguable role for women in the volunteer forces, there is not a need for the academies to invest their precious resources in this topic.

[819]  RA Commissions Financial issues - budget support alumni support Military culture issues, esp. vis-a-vis political correctness-driven pressures; training soldiers vs "peacekeepers"

[820]  I am very interested in the direction of the academy but I am unaware of any program the superintendent has with graduates. I would like to have some input on the direction of the academy.

[821]  You can't ever be just "happy" with everything, but I think that USMA is doing very well, given all of the pressures we face. Just best Navy!

[822]  please see response to question 16 above

[823]  As always concern on viable life as i understand new graduates even today are being offered early outs after only several years of service. If west point is providing army leaders why hasn't the acquisition process accounted for the force reduction. If we continue to let graduates serve minimum active duty tours, aren't we running the risk of downsizing or elimination?

[824]  In a recent Assembly article, I read that our graduates no longer receive a Regular Army commission. The article went on to say that the USMA leadership didn't want to fight this battle with Congress for fear of having to defend the need for the Academy. I find it unfathomable that this could happen! I think USMA has fallen right into Congress' trap. Since our graduates are commissioned in the Reserves, proponents of eliminating USMA will now have more support for their position that West Point graduates are no different than ROTC and OCS products. Most politicians and their constituents are not aware of the inherent value of a USMA graduate over those from other commissioning sources. Therefore, why would the American taxpayer support the concept of a military academy when it costs so much more to educate and train a USMA cadet than an ROTC cadet - and both programs produce the same thing?

[825]  Loss of warrior spirit Dilution of emphasis on engineering for all cadets

[826]  Lack of Class rank I am aware of the difficultly of comparing various "majors" as well as the concern about cadets choosing the "easier majors", however there are many weigthed options based upon relative standing within majors which could be used to encourage cadets to choose more demanding options. Performance should be recognized. Graduates not going directly into combat arms. This difficult problem and all its political implications should be re-thought.

[827]  Commissioning cadet graduates as reserve officers.

[828]  When I was a Tac, we let some cadets come back to the Academy after being eliminated when their Congressmen got involved. This should not happen without a fight. The decision to eliminate a cadet is taken seriously by the COC and politics should not have such an impact and reverse the decision.

[829]  1. The Reserve Commission for graduates. 2. Exodus of graduates earlier in Army career.

[830]  I am concerned about the general drift of the Acadamey towards standards, academic and military programs and procedures, militay discipline, and an honor code that mirrors those at other military schools or at very good civilian schools with strong ROTC programs. The Academy must maintain standards of performance (academic and military) and an honor system that is measured substantially above other institutions,else its value to the nation is diminished and its cost ever more unacceptable to the Congress.

[831]  USMA seems to be moving towards civilianizing its mission and purpose instead of maintaining the military emphasis it previously had.

[832]  There seems to be an emphasis away from training warriors that is disturbing. I sense there is less intensity focused on developing combat leaders than there is in meeting politically motivated objectives such as those espoused by former Asast. Sec. Army Sara Lister.

[833]  Lack of funding via Dept of Army. The Supe let the football coach "dangle in the wind" two years ago- it was unnecessary! There was a local news column in the RECORD that should be re-read to see how not to treat people!

[834]  As Army decreases see too many "grads" terminating their career way before the 5 year mark. Not sure that is why USMA exists. Why are persons allowed to do this?

[835]  Not happy about the "touch-feely" episode this year as reported in the Wall Street Journal. Not happy that the Supe eliminated Area Squad. Not happy that the current football coach can not work the forward pass into his attack early on.

[836]  Focus on a career that benefits the military services, rather than supporting the current curriculum that appears to emphasize elective courses. It appears that today a person could graduate as a music major, if so chosen. What ever happened to soldiering?

[837]  Should be more focused onputting graduates into combat arms.

[838]  Sliding scale entrance standards. Variable service commitment after graduation. Eliminating combat arms service requirements for male cadets. Eliminating class standings. Making diversity a bedrock value, and relegating Duty, Honor, Country to a motto. Don't give academics a major voice in administrative or academic policy.(I spent 18 years in academe.)

[839]  Due to the decreasing percentage of Americans with military service, it is imperative that the USMA mission clearly demonstrates the differences and benefits of USMA over other forms of commissioning. Part of AOG's job to get out the information to non-graduates.

[840]  My main concern is that West Point must ensure that we don't try to become an MIT or Harvard. We're in the business of developing military professionals, not business/corporate executives. It's great to see how the SAT/ACT scores of our Cadets are superb and we're usually among the most selective of all universities in this country, but I'm more interested in the number of Cadets who are Eagle Scouts, high school athletic team captains, etc.

[841]  The new politically correct have empathy with other people program seems pretty weak to me. I think we need to keep the "winning wars by killing people and breaking things more efficiently than the other guys" as the main focus. That is what the taxpayer is paying for and that is what West Point should give them, whether the politicians want to acknowledge that in peacetime or not.

[842]  Degree of committment to the Army of USMA officers is waning. Service to the nation is overshadowed by a influential college degree and what jobs can be gotten after committment is up.

[843]  West Point's academic training should be focused on developing warfighting, interpersonal, statesmanship, and science/technology skills.

[844]  Concerned about coming up with a "new" mission statement. The mission that USMA has had for a number of years seems very appropriate!

[845]  Already addressed above

[846]  I am concerned with the vision and the actual role of USMA in the context of a "downsized" military and how USMA will continue to provide leaders of high caliber to the Army. This may include a number of points: The vision of USMA's role & mission The rigor of the academic & military training The graduation commitment (time-in-service) The commissioning component (RA or Reserve)

[847]  Need to spend less time worrying about the sensitivities of cadets and their perceived vulnerabilities and spend more time developing leaders with drive and a sense of direction, individuals of character not of political correctness.

[848]  re-instill military service as part of the mission statement. although i left the army after my initial obligation, i take pride in the fact that i served; i did not go to west point because i wanted to be a community leader--that is a by-product. i went because i desired to stand watch for our nation's defense.

[849]  Let's not lose our traditional combat arms orientation (and an appreciation in our graduates for the difficulty of and importance of that mission and those soldiers) as we incorporate the social policy agendas of the moment in what we're doing at West Point.

[850]  Maintaining a core curriculum and keeping electives/majors to a minimum

[851]  I do not like the idea of USMA becoming a "graduate school". I much prefer its present role.

[852]  Seems to be moving away from a focus on producing quality company grade officers to producing corporate leaders.

[853]  The Academy does not do enough to train the cadets for service in the Army. We teach all the military science instruction in a two-week "intersession." The result is too little emphasis on tactics. We have lost our sense that we are training the combat leaders of our Army.

[854]  The loss of regimentation or discipline in the cadet daily regimen

[855]  Conference USA - I haven't heard a good reason yet why we went to conference USA

[856]  I disagree with the proposed change in the mission statement to include "a career as an Army officer". I don't think it is a realistic goal, and I don't want to accept a mission that is unachievable!

[857]  Deterioration of facilities should be addressed

[858]  1. Awarding of the Thayer Award 2. Liberalization of the Academy 3. Females at the Academy 4. Recent visit of Pete Seeger, a known communist - Why? The Superintendent's, embrace of this man by call him "America's tunning fork" callng him "America's tunning Fork"

[859]  Over the past 5 years I have done a good deal of research and have carefully scrutinized the USMA training and education process. Along with numerous other grads I am convinced that the warrior credo has been deemphasized in contravention of what the vast majority of Americans believe to be the purpose of WP. This has happened concomitently with the matriculation of females. The leadership doesn't want to address the problem head on in the interest of being "PC". The AOG should take the lead and insist on graduating all its male cadets (new officers)into the combat arms only! Finally, I am going to comment on the supe's proposed new mission statement. However, everyone should realize that the phrase one hears all over WP nowadays--national leaders of character--is simply a euphemism designed to slide by the "combat leader" issue.

[860]  I am concerned with the ongoing changes in the Four Class System and the changing disciplinary system of the Academy. I think tradition and "right of passage" are being forsaken to appease the press.

[861]  1. I am concerned with the lack of depth in military tactics education (I have not followed changes since 1993). 2. I believe that West Point should be focused on providing combat leaders to the Army (and do it better than any other source) than compete with civilian universities in providing leaders of character to the nation. 3. I am concerned that the "leadership" activities in the cadet companies encourage cadets to look good on paper and are generally unproductive.

[862]  USMA must keep its distinction as a MILITARY academy. This must be its focus. If it tries to compete with other universities against their strengths it will eventually lose. Military development must take precedence -- an issue which is slowly changing for the worse!

[863]  Tactical officers are the "company commanders" practically speaking and thus deprive the cadets the opportunity to truly run the corps!!

[864]  is there sufficient emphasis on the continuing changes in technology for computers and related software? is there a relationship between technological advances and how it could affect the modern theories of warfare? have they begun to educate proper logistics with emphasis on financial problems in the real army based on location and need? has the gap about treating women differently been lessened so that the woman in battle scenario is realistic versus political?

[865]  There seems to be conflict between graduates who made the military a lifelong career and those who did not. I have seen this conflict in various letters and articles in ASSEMBLY, as well as discussions I have heard at West Point Society meetings. It is unrealistic to expect 17-21 year olds to commit to lifelong career, without having first experienced it. There is nothing wrong with USMA graduates who serve something less than 20 years active duty and go on to other productive careers. The primary mission of USMA must remain to produce officers for a career in the US Army. However, there also must be a recognition of dedicated service outside the military.

[866]  1. Too much focus on private fund raising, not enough focus on obtaining "adequate" government funding. If the USNA and the USAFA can do it why can't USMA ?

[867]  I believe very strongly that the graduates of the Service Academies should be granted regular commisions in their respective services upon graduation!

[868]  I am not really sure of the direction USMA is heading.

[869]  The fund raising activities of USMA are of concern to me as we are now on a slippery slope of in some cases having the Superintendent deceide what should be funded by the WPF based on what he thinks he can or cannot get funded by Congress. Chairs in Departments are in my opinion clearly a responsibility of Congress to fund, not the WPF. This is but a small example of how the slippery slope will work and once you start down the slope you will never get congress to fund these items again. The fee of 10.2% levied on top of each class by the WPF is not to members liking or does it encourage class giving. The AOG laid on the increased fund raising staffing without these decisions being laid before the menmbership. There was no involvement of the members at large in this decision that has been made. The 10.2% surcharge being charged for class gifts is paying for this increased staffing of the WPF. We, the members, would like to see the breakout of the surcharge before we commit any funds to any projects. We recognize there are costs to fund raising but in the case of class projects, the funding raising is usually done within the class without WPF involvement so the question becomes why the 10.2% surcharge on direct funding by specific classes for specific projects approved by the Supe?

[870]  Intersession Military Sceince Training (It seems that a cursory look is being given to very important training) USMA Rotating Faculty (Military)need to have a voice for them on promotion/selection boards. If a USMA assignment is perceived as a career inhibiting assignment, the "good" officers will not want to come to teach here

[871]  I believe the emphasis on minorities of any category has been successfula nd should be phased out...We do them a diservice by continuing it. It undermines their accomplishments and achievements.

[872]  Stick to undergraduate courses - no master's programs.

[873]  I am concenred about the new "mantra" of relavence. I'm not certain that heading down the same path our society is heading is the best wayto serve it. I am concerned (as a graduate who has remained on active duty) about the focus on preparing cadets for a fuzzy "future of service." The diploma should first last and always mean you are ready to die doing the hard work this nation requires of its very best. "Selling" the academy to people who can't live up to (or even comprehend) that standard is a mistake.

[874]  The change in the make-up of staff and faculty from military officers (many of them graduates)and some civilians to a more even mix of civilian/military is a concern. West Point is not (and should not try to be) UCLA, Notre Dame or Harvard. We are preparing young people to be warfighters. My sense is that the apostles of the Patsy Schroeder School of National Defense are having undue influence with the Military Academies.

[875]  Increasing civilianization of the faculty

[876]  Direction of focusing on academics at the expense of leadership/military training

[877]  1. I see a move away from distinctives and toward the common elements with the active army. The less distinctives that the Academy retains, the easier a target it is for congressional cuts. 2. The fourth class system and the honor code/system are two areas of distinct erosion. 3. The cadet experience should not be an introduction to Army life, but a unique leadership and character development experience. 4. I am concerned by the increase in non-graduates assigened to the Tactical Officer positions.

[878]  Concerned that the wealth of academic opportunities offered are distracting from the fundamental mission of preparing Army officers for a career of service. I understand some belive the Academy must offer such academic "plums" to maintain a strong candidate pool, but I believe that dropping some of the "exotic" majors, etc., will get you candidatetes who are more interested in being in the Army, and fewer academic hives, who view USMA as an academic springboard to their real (post-Army) careers. By the way, I have one son there now and one enroute.

[879]  Standards Honor system Women in the Corps

[880]  Unhappy with loss of RA commission. What is wrong with current Mission Statement?

[881]  Seeming over-emphasis on athletics at the expense of academics.

[882]  During Gen Roger's tenure as Army Chief of Staff, male cadets were allowed to be commissioned directly into combat support arms with no prior duty in combat or combat arms. Reason, allegedly, was to preclude a male cadet suit because female cadets could. This policy should be revoked. Reinstate policy which requires all male cadets to serve at least two years in a combat/combat support branch before entering a combat support branch. Doing this might well refocus on the "warrior" ethos. Many of us "old grads" feel West Point has lost a bit too much of the "warrior" focus. After all, that's what the Army is really all about.

[883]  I am concerned regarding the integration of female cadets into the Corps and subsequently into the active duty Armed Services.

[884]  I am always interested in big changes in cadet life and in West Point. Usually the changes I see are good, but some, like the afore-memtioned sky boxes, worry me. Money should not play a role in cadet's lives on campus, i.e., some cadets should not visit wealthly or well-connected friends or relatives in sky boxes after games while others cannot. Cadet summer activities should relate to activities an officer can expect in his first ten yearsor so, company grade activities. AOG actions should foster these kinds of attitudes.

[885]  More and more graduates seem to be focused on "life after the Army" vice a "career in the Army". Need to continue to encourage "careers in the service" followed by "lifetime service to the nation". Focus the cadets on prep for these vice what they can major in to transition to a lucrative civilian career enhanced by a Diploma from USMA

[886]  Concerned USMA is not focusing on development of military leaders. Graaduates are not being prepared to serve in a technolgical sophisticated Army. Concerned traditional values instilled in graduates are being compromised as values of our society are beong compromised.

[887]  There is a question in the minds of many as to whether or not the Military Academy is becoming "just another college" and if, in its attempts to please everyone, it will bring about its own demise.

[888]  Too much emphasis on where graduates are going to Grad School rather than on what battalion they are being assigned to. I received a letter from an assistant football coach extolling the fact that several players were going to have an opportunity to play pro ball soon. Let's get with the program and put the focus back on military officer responsibility first!!

[889]  Not familiar with any current policies except what has been cussed and discussed on the wp-forum.

[890]  The important distinction that USMA makes is the development of leaders of character. That sets it apart from presumed competition, and must continue to do so, or West Point becomes just another (expensive) school.

[891]  I have heard rumors of things but am unable to comment because I lack actual facts.

[892]  In general I feel positive about most changes that have been made in recent years. I question eliminating "area tours." Is there a process to formally evaluate changes against what are considered to be the "core values" or most important values of USMA? I am aware of most changes because I have a son in the class of 2000, and I want to emphasize that I consider most changes to be positive. I would just feel more confident if substantial changes were evaluated using some type of formal process instead of just the personal judgement of the commanding officer. In redefining the mission of USMA, I would caution against being too "politically correct" and stress the long-term values and role that the academy has filled.

[893]  Lack of overall discipline in the Army at large may be a reflection of lack of discipline of oficer corps. Weekends off?, no training on weekends?, family day?, no CQs in barracks?, etc. Who's in charge? Or is that too politially incorrect to ask???

[894]  Concerned about "softening" discipline. West Point should be challenging, because combat is challenging. The current trend in being "Politically Correct" is a mistake. Life is hard, basic training is hard, combat is hard, and West Point shouldn't be out there on it's own.

[895]  Male grads should be required to be commissioned in a combat or combat spt branch.

[896]  Continued funding. Need to maintain West Point as a MILITARY academy for officers in the Army.

[897]  Should not have done away w/ the 4th Class System. Emphasis on intercollegiate sports is misguided... emphasis on military training/academics should be prevalent.

[898]  Too touchy-feely

[899]  I'm concerned that the current administration's budget cuts will impact the mission of USMA

[900]  I fear that WP will succumb to the PC environment brought on by Congressional "weenyism" and begin demanding less of its students. I do not subscribe to the "Corps went to hell as soon as my class graduated," but we received a lot of very bad publicity this summer over some department head, reverred by his students, essentially run off base by some soft-handed types. Just a whiff of that rubs those of us who learned just how valuable those crotchety bastards are the wrong way. Whether it was true is irrelevant. That we thought it might be true should have been a greater cause for concern for the administration and AOG.

[901]  I do not have enough informationo comment intelligently.

[902]  Reject consolidation of Academies into a Joint Academy Continue to fight the drop in Academic Standards that is occuring at other similar institutions Return focus to becoming career officers

[903]  I still do not like the word "career" in the new (or old) academy mission statement. That word sends the wrong message to the cadets, army, and public. The word is commonly understood to have a self-centered meaning to it. Self-sacrifice is a professonal virtue; self-centered is not. The army has all the "careerists" it needs.

[904]  It hurts me to see WP being neglected by the country. If the people knew what was happening to this institution, they might react in favor of WP to a greater extent.

[905]  See comments above relating to money and privleges. Parking, special accomodations in Miche Stadium, etc.

[906]  Political Correctness is alive and well at USMA

[907]  I hear the fourth class is being relieved of all "Plebe Duties" following this Holiday Break. That really bothers me as I do not see how cadets will ever learn a sense of coming together to accomplish a task under a stressful situation.

[908]  Soliciting for funds seems increasingly necessary, however, I think USMA should consider charging for its educational services as well as undertake a study to cut out waste and ineffective expenses.

[909]  Reserve vice regular appointments following graduation. Reduced academic load. Reduced objectives for athletic competitiveness.

[910]  Worried we are getting to PC Need to reinforce military leadership

[911]  1. Superintendent must regain things which make West Point unique. USMA cannot be all things to all people. Focus must be the Mission requirement to produce professionals in the Profession of Arms. 2. Superintendent must make an unambiguous contract with applicants reflecting the unique mission of the military academy, expected standards of Duty, Honor, Country, and disciplined life and isntruction. 3. Superintendent must improve the qualtiy of leadership instruction. This requires establishing accountability for all leadership instruction with the Commandant. Military leadership isntruciton must replace academic leadership isntruction, and qualified USMA Leadership Instructors put in place. 4. Superintendent must improve the quality and military professionalism of all USMA Instructors. 5. Superintendent must eliminate Electives programs to (a) halt academic specialization which develops a narrow intellectual focus; (b) allow a reinstatement of class and academic ranking systems; and (c) focus on disciplined core instruction in science, engineering, and mathematics. 6. Superintendent must provide year round military leadership experience for Cadets, including summer service with Army troop units.

[912]  Fund raising - see recommendations by Class of '58 commitee

[913]  Increased reliance on private funding, My concern is that as the grads do more, they will be expected to continue to do more, forever, and that it will be taken for granted after awhile

[914]  My impression the system is getting too soft.

[915]  I read that article in the Assembly a couple of months ago about the "new Beast Barracks" and was struck by the tone of it. It seemed way too purified. The CBT Cdr stated that they no longer glorified "blood and guts", an obvious attempted slap at COL Tex Turner. When I went through Beast in 1988, I never had the impression that COL Turner, or those like him, were trying to glorify blood and guts. On the contrary, they were the reminder of what we may be called on to do as leaders in the Army. The tone of everything I see and hear now about USMA is about softening the experience. "Let's not talk about blood and guts because that's uynpleasant." Damn right it is, but its even worse to pretend the purpose of the USMA is to produce legions of polished toy soldiers with no knowledge or inkling of what their true purpose is; they are to be America's combat leaders. Good God, I heard they don't even walk area tours anymore, but do community service instead. If my sons and daughters choose to serve our country some day in the future, I want them to be led by warriors, not by graduates of a taxpayer supported finishing school with an identity crisis..

[916]  1) Why did the 4th class system cease to exist? 2) Why has there been an expansion of DCA sanctioned clubs when funding for these clubs has supposedly been reduced? (e.g. chess club, redundant clubs for women and minorities, etc.) 3) Why are there now locks on the cadet rooms? 4) How have the recent army sexual harrassment scandals affected cadet life / policy ?

[917]  USMA should become more aggressive in identifying, then recruiting top-notch officer (not simply cadet) candidates who are morally and physically fit with clearly demonstrated leadership skills and life smarts (not necessarily just academic smarts) -- opposed to the more passive practice of letting candidates identify themselves and try to select the best from those. Too many fine poptential candidates -- especially blue chip athletes -- never even consider West Point or any of the other academies. The USMA web site should display West Point in pictures and video, tell what the motto means, relate history through the contributions of its graduates, discuss what it means to be an officer in the US Army, show how USMA fits into the Armyas more than a mere college that commissions officers, etc.

[918]  I am concerned about the new practice [recently communicated to me by class E-Mail] of not appointing graduates in the Regular Army. I would like to be informed about decisions similar to this and of the reasons for changing the former policies.

[919]  Honor Code...l Most important role of West Pointers is to be the standard bearer for ethical behavio in the US Armyr. Not sure this is emphasized the way it should be at USMA . Also, preparing graduates for the imperfect environment of the Army. Too many graduates leave the Army because they are dissatisfied with the Army they were taught was as 'black and white' as the academy.

[920]  Our product is not very good at this time!! That is because we start with the wrong raw material up front.

[921]  Lack of candor of senior leadership Need for diversity overwheliming good judgment The Hallums Affair A Committe for the Consideration of Others The "selection process" for Mistress of the Sword The continuing erosion of personal discipline at USMA The unwillingness of USMA to fight for funding from DOA as does USNA Lack of willingness to listen to graduates Unimaginative football leadership

[922]  Regular commissions - it's sad to think that such an expenditure of funds to build a professional officer corps all leads to a reserve commission.Degrees - is USMA a college or a military institution preparing attendees for military svc?

[923]  Am still concerned about the WSJ article about the de-militarization of West Point. The Superintendents' action on this issue was unprofessional. He supported a mutiny. I have read all he and others have said on the subject and still feel the problem was a result of poor leadership at the top at West Point. Let's do what we can to keep West Point different from other colleges or we will lose West Point. Let's rededicate ourselves to making sure West Point produces warriors that are dedicated to winning our country's wars!

[924]  Fourth Class System Beast Barracks Loss of RA commissions Class Cohesion Dilution of Combat Arms in importance Outside efforts to reduce USMA cadet's priority in commissioning/branching process

[925]  Discipline and the continued development of leaders that can perform properly under pressure. I fear that the political influence of the current presidential administration may have caused a lowering of standards.

[926]  I am extremely concerned both with what I read in the Assembly and what I hear firsthand from CTLT Cadets. I was very displeased with the recent article on the complete watering down of Beast Barracks by Amy Blanchard Efaw (SEP-NOV 97). New Cadets and apparently some senior Staff and Faculty (LTC Ivey) don't know what works in the Army concerning standards and leadership. I noticed that she is neither a graduate, nor a combat arms officer. I am an Infantry Officer and company commander. My men don't want to be coddled and aren't afraid to be challenged, stressed, and made better by hard training. West Point's leadership must remember that some of its graduates will still serve in Combat Arms units where men must seize key terrain and kill the enemy in the process. I believe that the focus is almost entirely on academics and by the way you'll be an Army Officer when you graduate. Times have changed and so has society; however, West Point should not attempt to lead the charge in becoming a kinder, gentler place to go to school.

[927]  See above statement. Word-of-mouth is that the military instruction aspect is downplayed in favor of pure academics.

[928]  WP has moved too far away from central mission of producing combat leaders. We may have forgotton what happens when you lose (Vietnam notwithstanding). WP has lost it spit and polish. It looks rundown too.

[929]  The de-militarization of USMA concerns me greatly. It also concerns me how USMA is dismissing so much of the traditional methods of character-building.

[930]  Strongly indorse Sup's efforts to Rewrite Mission of USMA.

[931]  The destruction of the 4th Class System. A little stress as a plebe can produce a lifetime of benefits. While I am not an advocate of abusive leadership styles, it seems from recent articles in WP-forum and the Assembly, that there is little stress in the life of the 4th Class. Academic stress is available at most competitive colleges, West Point is and should be different.

[932]  Females RA commissions

[933]  I was not aware that USMA was in the process of developing a new mission statement. It is critical that we do not lose sight of our unique attributes and strengths, or we will become one more casualty of the current administration's short-sightedness.

[934]  RA Commissions; "Kinder and More Gentle USMA";

[935]  I am concerned that USMA will become too "civilian" and lose the special aspects peculiar to West Point that make it unique. Conversely, I thinks it is absolutely critical that in such a diverse and changing world USMA must make changes and adaptations so it will continue to be an excellent institution. Input from graduates in this respect is critical. I think the graduates should have a "real" vote in all major issues concerning West Point especially now that West Point is more and more dependant on private funding.

[936]  Increase percentage of graduates assessed into Combat Arms.

[937]  The shift of focus from preparing future military leaders. Reduction in the amount of Military Science training.

[938]  Reserve commissions for some graduates

[939]  BUT, it must keep focused on the direction it has selected.

[940]  My last tour in the military was on the USMA S&F. I became very concerned that USMA was too eager to adapt its policies to meet perceived societal values, rather than creating an environment that demanded excellence and standards that were not compromised to meet short term expediencies and demands.

[941]  I am not familiar with the changes in the cadet selection process, the 4th Class system, academic requirements for graduation

[942]  Yes, as a graduate currently serving on active duty, I believe that USMA graduates, as a whole, perform no better than ROTC and OCS graduates. I believe USMA has to be the best commissioning source, but I do not understand why USMA grads do not out perform our peers. Could it be the mission statement or cadet admisions? Has our mission statement drifted too far from what our real mission is...providing leaders of character to serve the common defense. Too many grads focus on getting out, mutual funds, or getting an MBA. Take the article in the NY Times special 'Education' section last year. How many cadets mentioned anything about serving in the armed forces. How many mentioned about preparing for the business world? If USMA does not refocus on preparing Army leaders, our school will ultimately become an insignifficant college on a level with the Citadel and VMI.

[943]  I recently (last summer during my Annual Training in the Reserves) returned to West Point. I was very upset to find the rapid deterioration of the grounds. I went by the WKDT building to find the sign was broken. I noticed that several buildings had gargoyles that were in need of repair and that several of the stones in the sidewalks around IKE Hall were broken or not properly seated. This greatly disturbed me that West Point, of all places, had into such a state of poor repair. USMA should ensure that it is preserved for future generations and does not decay any further.

[944]  USMA grads are no longer automatically Regular Army commissions. This equates the effort involved in graduating from the Academy with the effort involved in graduating from a regular college. This issue should be revisited.

[945]  I do not believe there should be special sub- groups such as miority graduates association. We are all graduates and do not need divisive actions to segregate our long grey line.

[946]  I am a little concerned to hear that a new mission statement is being developed--but if graduates are involved, it might return to a historical mission statement.

[947]  I am very afraid that USMA is becoming too much like civilian colleges. I think the school should train warriors and make no bones about it. However, it has bent so far to be politically correct that such a major change in direction is not likely.

[948]  The dialog on funding shortfalls in DOD supported activities caused me concern. There is the suspicion that we believe in USMA, but that DOD and perhaps the broader Army does not see USMA at the same level of importance, otherwise the support would be forthcoming. Put another way, are the other academies having the same difficulties, and if not then why?

[949]  The age-old dilemma: Rate of change in society is increasing. Need to find the "right stuff" among America's youth means the task gets harder and harder. How do we keep this "opportunity" appealing to youth, while maintaining a steadfast mission? How do we "evolve or modernize" without changing original intent?

[950]  The studies done by Dr. Carl Bryant (currently at the Center For Creative Leadership)indicates West Point does not expand the cognitive capability of cadets as is accomplished by ROTC Colleges, nence no more regular commissions. Rather than fight the issue WP should start learning how to prepare its graduates for a dynamically changing world and compete for the few regular commissions that will be available. The warrior mentality attracts only Myers-Briggs ISTJs there are other missions in keeping the peace.

[951]  While it appears that the Academy is still producing some of the finest officers in the world, there is still some concern that we are "civilianizing" the institution. The military aspects of the academy life, coupled with the large amount of officer-instructors are the main difference between the academy and your everyday, run-of-the-mill ivy league school. Put the "military" back in USMA.

[952]  I am concerned that the teaching of tactics and leadership has taken a subordinate role to "Competing with the Ivy League". Let us not compromise the founding mission of the academy to become another Ivy League ROTC commissioning source. I am also concerned about the improper use of Tactical Officer staff. More than one source indicates that senior officers are directing how to accomplish missions (Where and when to be, how to administer, etc...) instead of allowing captains and majors develop cadet leaders.

[953]  Wondered what happened to Palmer's master planning efforts -- don't see the zoning having any effect.

[954]  My concern is that USMA not dilute its position as the standard bearer for the development of the Army's future leaders. Focus recruiting efforts on young men and women who desire to serve a career in the military - not as a free education opportunity with a six-year commitment following graduation. If we are afraid that the six-year commitment will deter top candidates, then I think we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the kind of person we should be recruiting. We want young men and women of character, who are dedicated to serving their country as leaders in our Army. I'd start with that goal and put less emphasis on academic achievement. I realize that character is hard to measure, but SATs are easy. It's a tough problem we need to figure out. Again, l'd start by looking at how we recruit candidates. Appeal to the right values and see who applies.

[955]  --screening of candidates before adminssion (ie police records, character) --lowering of admission standards for recruited athletes, do not do it!!!! --maintain standards of academincs and conduct --undue influence of "political correctness"

[956]  See number 17. My real concern is that USMA is becoming so academically oriented that the military aspect might be getting less emphasis.

[957]  We are becoming too much like a civilian college. If we do not show that USMA graduates are unique and worth their cost (because they take on the hard jobs, are better trained, etc.) I'm afraid that the "bean counters" will try to close the Academy for monetary reasons.

[958]  I have not kept close close enough to WP to answer this question.

[959]  I have been in significant contacft with LTG S.B. Berry on the issue of revising the limp-wristed mission statement as it currently exists. It must be changed.

[960]  Policy on females

[961]  I am greatly concerned, as are many, about the decision not to award RA commissions to USMA graduates. I understand this is a political "hot potato", and neither the Supe nor the AOG wish to aggressively attack this issue at this time; however, West Point should exist for one reason and one reason alone...to provide the Army with its core of RA officers. Those who choose to be commissioned through ROTC do so by choice, and if I am not mistaken the R in ROTC stands for "reserve." Being an RA officer should be competitive, which begins with the pre-commissioning process and extends throughout one's career. The downsizing issue should not be mixed with this issue. If you are a reserve officer on active duty, you must understand, regardless of your performance, you may be the first to go. Similarly, if you are an RA officer, and are a poor performer, you should not be "protected" exclusively by being RA.

[962]  Must maintain minority recruitment initiatives. MUST get more Senior Minorities on USMA staff (CBT ARMS)

[963]  Wasn't aware that a change was underway

[964]  1. Loss of RA Commission. I agree with those who see this as a first step toward a serious effort to close the Academy.

[965]  Concerned about the apparent diminishing emphasis on the military aspects of the WP mission.

[966]  1. Lack of RA commission for graduates 2. Lack of vision for the future role of the academy in our naation 3. Decay of the academy's physical facility 4. Graduate programs? 5. Decline of military training in the cirriculum

[967]  I'm greatly concerned at the loss of the warrior focus. Current mission statement is generic enough that the raison d'etre of the school is threatened. Why not just send everyone to the Kellog School of Government and close USMA?

[968]  Women in the military--keep them out of the foxholes

[969]  Concerned with what I consider an erosion of the "Warrior ethic" and an apparent attempt to include USMA in the development of a kinder/gentler military force.

[970]  I am concerned about the drift from the focused mission to prepare leaders to fight our nation's wars. I see such things as this new bedrock value of consideration as a puzzling priority in light of the mission. I was embarassed to read recently that West Point led the way in changing the physical requirements so that women could succeed.

[971]  General Palmer breifed my class the night we arrived as new cadets and said that the academy didn't want career officers and if you didn't want to be one, you could be happy to not be one. What the academy produced was leaders whether military or civilian. Taht theme was reiterated several more times,a nd i heard him give teh same speach again as a brand new 2LT at a Founder's Day Banquet at Fort Benning. I hope that the idea that the "5 and Fly" program has not been so thoroughly ingrained it can't be eliminated. I am particularly concerned with the reserve commissions cadets can graduate with now. Also, is the sensitivity training framed in a way that communicates that leaders must be able to understand their soldiers, or is it framed in a manner that communicates that cadets should expect to get coddled by their company and battalion commanders. Young officers need to know they stand a significant chance of getting treated like a plebe again when senior officers are placed in a stressful situation and they fail to perform.

[972]   West Point's role as custodian of the Army's core values seems diminished vis-a-vis USNA/USAFA because its graduates are a smaller proportion of its service's officer corps, especially in the post Cold War period. In short, USMA should not be downsized.

[973]  I disagree with the work detail concept replacing walking tours -- not because I liked walking tours or because I'm an old grad, but because I think walking the area was a positive contemplative time during which you hopefully realized that being out there was stupid and intelligent folks would avoid that in the future. Picking up trash, raking leaves, or whatever is necessary, but it doesn't teach the same things that walking the area hopefully taught and I believe is demeaning in the public's eyes.

[974]  1. We seem to be too interested in words. Too many senior officials seem to think that the solution to problems lies in issuing new regs, policy statements, etc.. These are needed, but they are not the panacea to cure all ills. "Duty, Honor, Country" is about all anyone needs to know abour West Point. What then happens to cadets while they are at USMA will determine their ability to succeed in the Armed Forces. When I graduated I had the feeling that I could do anything that I wanted to do. I had that feling throughout my Air Force career, and still have that feeling. It was my experience at the Academy that gave me this most wonderful of all gifts. I wonder if Cadets feel that way today. There are lots of issues(only military officersshould teach military subjects, the role of graduate courses at service academies, etc.) that have been discussed recently. Their contributions to the development of this can-do attitude is what is important.

[975]  From what I can tell, it seems the traditional Fourth Class experience is basically a thing of the past. USMA, esp. "Beast", sounds like a glorified summer camp now. This is really too bad.

[976]  There are lots of areas of concern, but all of the Superintendents I've known (eight) have done a fine job of dealing with them.

[977]  No concerns about policies and directions as articulated. As a member of the class of '53 and a cadet during the cheating scandal of 1951, however, I am suspicious that there is a difference between West Points stated aspirations and its actions. It was clear to me as a cadet that the administration of the academy did not handle the situation with honor or integrity.

[978]  The rumor mill has it that things have become drastically more lax as far as privileges and discipline are concerned at USMA. Perhaps I have a case of "the Corps has" syndrome, or maybe the rumor mill is not reliable (is it ever?)

[979]  Need to emphasize grads in the Army reserve components (this was missing in the question about our profession)-- they are part of West Point's "benefits" to the Nation.

[980]  1-the reduction of the active duty committment rqmts 2-the perceived relaxation of rigorous standards , particularly the 4th Class System

[981]  A move away from combat arms to general service. Working toward a "college" rather than a Military Aacdemy

[982]  I am concerned that we may be developing a Ivy League type institution at West Point. Am concerned that we may not be putting enough emphasis on being a soldier vice a future leader in America. We need leaders for the Military. Also concerned that we may be trying to be too politically correct.

[983]  I am concerned that West Point has become more interested in producing scholars than in producing combat leaders

[984]  See notes above on ideals

[985]  I'm a little concerned that the class sizes have remained as large as they are given the reduced size of the military. This has caused the academy to become a big solicitor of contributions from sources other than the government. As we've seen in our country's election process, this can open up the door for improprieties or at least the appearance of improprieties.

[986]  - The perceived downplaying of the violent aspects of our profession. I believe that it is critical that our graduates are prepared to face the violent nature of the job, particularly at the junior officer level, and are prepared to lead soldiers in the execution of that violence. The common sense, rational thought processes and the instincts that the TAC officers and P's developed in me during my education at the Academy where key in my ability to successfully execute, thus far, the missions that I have been assigned. Let the TACs and the P's have the reigns, I am sure they will do the right thing and the Army will be better off.

[987]  I am extremely displeased with the anti-military direction USMA has taken.

[988]  I am concerned that USMA will not survive. The loss of RA "status", budget-conscious congress, downsizing...all of these will potentially lead us towards an ROTC only officer corps.

[989]  regular vs reserve status army letting usma grads leave the army before 5yrs..even during a drawdown.

[990]  I am concerned about the doing away of the 4th class system. I am a training company commander, and it is sad to think that the incoming soldiers go through a tougher forging process than thier future leaders do.

[991]  Attempting to create an atmosphere that is trying to closely mirror society. As MS101 taught me years ago, many times the military profession has to make much harder choices than do the civilian counterparts. Back to military/Spartan basics.

[992]  -promotion equity for academy professors -OPMS XXI and USMA ability to attract high-quality combat arms officers for rotating faculty -civilian faculty roles -selection process for company tactical officers

[993]  I am concerned that USMA may be losing its edge in developing career Army officers. I would like to see some statistics on staying power of USMA graduates by rank and year group, compared to other commissioning services. Of particular concern: can we justify the cost of the USMA experience?

[994]  Loss of focus on the main goal of producing combat officers. Excessive feminization. Excessively academic orientation versus military. Lack of candor on failings disclosed by the Hallums case.

[995]  politically correct to the extreme

[996]  I am somewhat concerned with the perceptions of the Fourth Class System which I received from the recent articles in The Assembly. I alss must admit that several years ago while visiting the barracks I was somewhat saddened by the conditin they were in. While they were admittedly new when I lived in them, their condition had declinde over the years more than I would have imagined--and some of the things wer ehtings that the cadets could have fixed themselves.

[997]  1. Loss of RA status. 2. Loss of status with Armed Services Commitee

[998]  I believe our athletic programs are decilining due to the DPE requirements placed upon athletic coaches

[999]  Though the emphasis is primarily service to the Army, the Academy should encourage cadets to serve in other government capacities as service to the country and community.

[1000]  I was appalled by the NYT Magazine article on Beast Barracks. Photographs and text were equally depressing. Within moments of arrival we were made to stand erectly and keep our eyes forward. That sloppy upperclassman watching a group of New Cadets slouch by, eyes on the heels of the man or woman before them spoke volumes.

[1001]  I am concerned about the commissions that graduates will recieve. I have read that graduates will no longer recieve RA commissions.

[1002]  not a concern---just a statement. i'm glad to see that west point is modernizing and allowing cadets to have more freedom (i.e. with the cars adn furniture---well at least i've heard that this is being implemented. i don't know how true it is). in any case, although i remember not having those things while i was there, i'm glad to see that they're being offered now.

[1003]  Sir/Ma'am, I just hope that the "new" mission statement is not a result of the newer classes opportunities to become a civilian straight out of West Point...I am opposed to this and any changes to the mission of USMA. It seems to have produced great leaders for the past 2 centuries, and now we want to change it? Perhaps I'm missing the real reason behind the change.

[1004]  See comments above (#17)

[1005]  I think we should emphasize the role of West Pointers as career officers and the encouragement of West Pointers to "stay in the Army" (or, in my case, the Army and then the Air Force). We should not make our memorials and recognition available for money or for political activity.

[1006]  I am out of touch with the current thrust in this area and can not respond.

[1007]  I am often disturbed by the way some USMA or AOG communications seem to speak "for" all graduates on key issues such as downsizing, etc... Those positions often do not reflect this graduate's perspective.

[1008]  The dismissal of the colonel for demanding a strict discipline venue and supporting two officers that e-mail data indicated were poor role models for cadets concerns me. I think USMA leadership must stand up for the full implementation of Duty, Honor, Country. That means not being politically correct and not choosing the politically correct course of action. It seems to me that all of the senior officers in all branches of service are going back to the Viet Nam errar mode of worrying more about promotion/ticket punching than the right and true course of action.

[1009]  West Point's Mission should clearly state that its primary purpose is to develop officers to help win our nations wars. I think the Academy (even while I was there) is afraid to make this the Mission because its "Politically Incorrect" The March 97 Wall Street Journal article on the relieved head of the BS&L Department clearly issustrates this.

[1010]  believe that USMA should * provide combat arms officers for the Army * provide RA commissions to all graduates * provide only a general BS degree * return to a stricter fourth class system * return to a stricter military environment (mandatory meals, formations, etc.) * reduce the size of the Corps

[1011]  I am concerned about the officers selected and actively sought by the Academy to train, teach, and mentor Cadets. Academically, they are well qualified. But I do not think the Cadets are getting the best representation of the Army Officer Corps. They probably are at the CPT/MAJ grades, but there are too many LTC and COL's assigned to West Point that have marginal evaluations, and stay for extended tours...4, 5, even 6 years and longer. This is not a good example...that it's OK to homestead in a comfy job, hang up your BDU's, and get the West Point leadership to intervene when its time to go back to the field Army. One of the biggest disappointments in my current job is seeing this happen on countless occasions. The direction seems to be more academically oriented than a career of selfless service, in the field Army, to the nation.

[1012]  The equating of West Point education/experience/work level to other forms of commissioning.

[1013]  I am very much disappointed in the disintegration of the fourth class system. This is not a disgruntled "the Corps has" old grad but a believer that the presence of stress through the first year truly hardens future combat leaders. I could not agree more with Mark Elfendal's letter in the latest Assembly. This is the Military Academy; there is nothing wrong with that stress even if it impacts the initial year of academics (though I feel this to be minor if at all.) I also support the reinrtoduction of reg Army commissions for USMA and DMG of ROTC. I think the Academy may be sliding down a slippery slope...

[1014]  Graduates should receive a Regular Army commission upon graduation. To equate the training received in a ROTC or OCS program with West Point is absurd. If the number of active duty officers still needs to be reduced, do it acress the board as a percentage reduction in all programs producing commissioned officers for the armed forces. Return the Academy to the elite position it once held. Graduates should be regarded as the best of the best among the officer corps, and if Bill Clinton and his cronies on the hill don't like it, ---- "em.

[1015]  More focus on the aspects of military life, understanding that the rigors of cadet life are challenging. Military intersession should be in addition to year long course work

[1016]  I do not like to see the Supe having to act like civilian college Presidents - Constantly begging for money from Alumni to keep the place solvent.

[1017]  The Direction the overall Army is heading is very disturbuing with the current level of readiness at an all time post war low. The underfunding of training is criminal. If the training at West Point has been affected to the same extent, then I am gravely concerned.

[1018]  I don't feel we should have a Female Master of the Sword. All grads should be given a RA status

[1019]  Graduates not receiving RA commissions

[1020]  The purpose of the Academy is to create warriers. Anything that doesn't support that purpose is superflous.

[1021]  Is West Point in danger of being disbanded or closed down in favor of ROTC?

[1022]  According to a recent graduate, cadets get very little hands-on exposure/experience with Army weapons systems (compared to my Buckner summer where I fired almost every weapon system found in a maneuver brigade). If this is true, I am concerned that today's cadets are not getting the exposure crucial to effective service in a combined arms environment.

[1023]  What, if any, will be the changes at WP secondary to the recent finding that the Army doesn't do coed training well. This is NOT a good time for the Academy to overreact.

[1024]  -Cadet discipline/punishment policies -Ethics and honor education standards -Pre-commissioning (MQS) military task training & sustainment

[1025]  Similar to the recent panel that found basic training to be to "watered down" due to its current "co-ed" status in the Army, I am concerned that the current military, disciplinary, and physical environment within West Point has also been diluted. However, I do not believe this "dilution" to be a product of female integration but rather, a general atmosphere of over-sensitivity and political correctness. Society has become too thin-skinned!

[1026]  Apparent relaxation of discipline of cadet life due to political/societal pressures.

[1027]  not cognizant but unwilling to say "Happy with status quo"

[1028]  As stated above, work effectively to change the "system" that rewards those who fail to live up to the standards of "Duty, Honor, Country" and punishes those who do. One place to start would be revisiting the performance appraisal system. West Point ought to be the model for the systems used in the Army for evaluation of enlisted and officer performance. I have not performed an exhaustive literature search, but a book on this subject that has not been surpassed, in my view, is "Performance Appraisal - Design Manual" published by F. Fournies & Associates, Inc., Bridgewater, NJ, copyright 1983. Ferdinand F. Fournies starts with a statement of the problem and then takes you step by step developing a system that works to improve performance, not kill people. Ferdinand F. Fournies has written at least two other books on this subject, "Coaching for Improved Work Performance" (1978), and "Why Employees Don't Do What They're Supposed to Do and What to Do about It" (1988). What Fournies preaches is common sense, but unfortunately the personnel gurus write performance appraisal systems not leaders. True leaders are too busy in the trenches accomplishing the mission and taking care of their people. The personnel gurus have other agendas.

[1029]  Honor system being controlled too much by the administration as opposed to the cadets.

[1030]  downsize the Academy now before Congress does something else.

[1031]  Yes, is the academy going to continue to get easier? I have twin brothers-in-law currently in the plebe class. They said BEAST was a joke. If Wsest POint is no longer a challenge for the majority, what keeps it such valued institution. People need to realize that people want a chanllenge and not just from academics. Kids come to West POint wanting to be treated tough(not as bad as the old grads had it in say the 50's or 60's, but at least a little intimidation.) My brothers could n't believe it was sucha joke. They were saying to themselves "Whoa!, WEst Point is real tough!(Sarcasm) At least Academics might challenge us. I don't think, even with my class, we put stress on people to see what they can endure. I'd rather see peole freak out in a training environment rather than a real war. Where does the Supe see the academy going?

[1032]  None, that you can control. I think the loss of a RA commission upon graduation will mean fewer graduates will make a career of the military - the loss of a substantial investment in time and dollars.

[1033]  In the last decade, recent gradusates have been less interested in military profession and more interested in civil life. May be a sign of the times with downsizing, but my paerceptino is that it is also from lack of direction of the academy. Supeis on the right track to fix this.

[1034]  Concerned that we are going the wrong way with the "toning down" of the 4th class system. Are we substituting academic stress for mental stress in our 4th class development? The ability to deal with academic stresses will not help one iota on the battlefield. Besides, lots of schools are challenging academically- what will distinguish the West Point experience from any other? What about tradition- what will our newer graduates be able to reminice/laugh about later? I think we are losing something important here...

[1035]  Concerned about continuing talk of disestablishing USMA.

[1036]  I think the Academy is trying to develop managers and not leaders.

[1037]  Ensuring the Honor Code remains an integral aspect of a cadet's life.

[1038]  APFT, plebes and yearlings are no longer required to pass an APFT. The Army requires soldiers to pass an APFT after eight weeks of basic training. The officers that lead these soldiers should be able to do the same. It is not unreasonable to require plebes to pass an APFT during the first semester.

[1039]  - We need to return back to more discipline of Cadets. I have seen Cadets on CTLT and they have not always presented a good appearance, i.e. pressed uniforms, proper haircuts. - I believe we need to return back to a more rigid plebe year. - There should be no regognition until graduation day. (I was shocked when I visited the mess hall before recognition and the 4th class cadets were talking and joking around at the table!) - Cadets need to go to the field more. Many USMA cadets seem more unprepared than certain ROTC graduates as far as basic soldiering skills. USMA graduates need to be the best if we want to stay respected in the Army.

[1040]  Balance between development of combat leaders, academics, and the softening of the former

[1041]  1. Deleting area tours is a travesty. Yes, they might get some constructive work done during details, but it takes away from the true experience of being a cadet.

[1042]  I believe the removal of an RA commission further diminishes the importance of a West Point degree and commission. When you stop to think about it, what is the difference at this point between a West Point and ROTC degree? Certainly from the Army's standpoint, nothing.

[1043]  Training new grads to be 2LTs or Generals. I think it should be the former but is the latter. Think this wrong focus makes us less competitive with other commissioning sources. We should do better.

[1044]  I question USMA's apparent departure from focusing on producing combat arms officers for the Army. If that is not USMA's mission, what is the value added by the institution? How is USMA different in purpose from other universities?

[1045]  Instilling values and selfless commitment needed for our nation. Enhance military training into the agenda.

[1046]  I am concerned with the apparant need for "character development" in the current cadets. I am also concerned with the necessity of "consideration for others" classes. Has our society slipped that fat that West Point is recruiting the equivalent of "moral delinquints"?

[1047]  See comments in response to question 30 below.

[1048]  Degree to which recent graduates are petitioning to end their military service before the req'd 5-6 year obligation.

[1049]  See comments in response to question 30 below.

[1050]  I am concerned about the moral an ethical development of cadets. My concern does not mean there is a problem. However, I was in DMI in 1976, and witnessed the reaction to the honor scandal as well as the admission of women to the Corps. As part of the response to the scandal, roundtable discussions were held with cadets regarding ethics and moral values. At that time I became aware of a wide chasm between the value system I brought with me when I entered USMA and that held by the cadets we talked with. The difference represented a gap between the values of the Army as an organization and the GAP (Grand American Public). I have concerns that the chasm is getting wider.

[1051]  Move to more civilian faculty with TENURE is a very bad idea, a key strenth of WP is committed, active ARMY officer instructors and Profs..Tom Faulds

[1052]  Changes in disciplinary system are making discipline less effective and too light on regulation infractions (ie no more area tours, changes in 4th class system etc) USMA needs to physically and mentally challenge cadets more than it currently does. It is the only way to foster the development of leaders who can overcome adversity.

[1053]  -Reserve commisions for graduates

[1054]  Lack of military leadership--becoming more like a college

[1055]  Have not been following issues until recently. New gender reports and evaluations may certainly have impact on WP and campus life as well as preparation for life as officer.

[1056]  Given the loss of RA status upon graduation. Has the academy's focus changed? Is West Point just another degree producing institution? Should its long term goals be re-examined? How does our direction differ from Sandhurst or French equivalent?

[1057]  (1) fund raising (2) importance of intercollegiate athletics and extracurricular activities

[1058]  Providing a broad education is much more important than specific education for potential specialists. Leave the latter for post grad programs. Instead provide listeners, speakers, and writers with education concerning current world affairs.

[1059]  must ensure the academy is ready for Army XXI and Army After Next as well as ready to train officers in the Classroom of the next century.

[1060]  West Point is becoming too vanilla. It is giving up many of its traditions and practices that gave us character. I do not want to sound like an irascible Old Grad. But when I read that the supe has done away with area tours ( I only walked 4 hours and will never forget it) I get discouraged. The comments of Mark Elfendal '89 in the Feb 98 Assembly (Letters page 2 The Corps Has...?) are right on.

[1061]  See list of things that AOG ought to attempt to further. They are all concerns about the direction of USMA. In addition, I do not agree with the necessity/desirability of reinventing the USMA mission statement. I als do not agree with the wording of theproposal that the current Supe is pushing.

[1062]  Reinstatement of historic 4th class system

[1063]  It would be politically incorrect for me to discuss my concerns.

[1064]  1. Lost its focus on producing professionals for the Regular Army. 2. Intent on becoming a top educational institution at the expense of professional development for military career. 3. Adopted methodology of making the environment "like any other college." 4. Accommodates too much to the "politically correct"as defined by current liberal society.

[1065]  Sounds like an OLD GRAD but I am concerned about the liberalization of the institution. Too many civilian instructors. Too many privileges for cadets.

[1066]  I am concerned with the way men and women are being integrated in to the service. I am not aware of specific problems. But I am just concerned about the expectations that men and women have of each other and how those expectations may not mesh with the reality of the differences between men and women.

[1067]  Not awarding RA Commissions to graduates. Not enough emphasis on providing elite combat leaders for the Army. Too much emphasis on "technicians" and not leaders. Going technical will only give ammunition to the question "Why USMA?"

[1068]  Apparent trend to eliminate the "non-academic stress" aspects of cadet life. It is not clear to me that the 4th class system as it existed was entirely a bad thing. A benefit was to engender in Cadets an individual determination to persevere in the face of adversity to achieve a goal. I do agree with the current emphasis on team-building discussed in recent articles, but both should be able to co-exist without damaging the other.

[1069]  Not all graduates becoming active duty and having to compete with ROTC

[1070]  I am concerned that the current Supe (a classmate) made an appeal for improving the facilities at West Point and most (including my class) responded by funding monuments and waldways which are appreciated by the tourists but do precious little to improve the lot of the average cadet or his career potential.

[1071]  Deemphasis of moral and ethical values in every aspect of Cadet training and education(perceived).

[1072]  I want to see a return to the practice of developing combat leaders for the defense of our country- not scholars!!!

[1073]  Impact of Downsizing and budget cuts on the quality of education and the West Point experience of the cadets and future graduates.

[1074]  Need to connect the faculty more closely to the real Army. They have become a subculture and the civilianization of the faculty has been a failure.

[1075]  Prceived erosion of support in executive/congressional leadership for the service academies as relates to budget and understanding of their contribution to the nation.

[1076]  While I recognize there was not a choice in the matter, I am seriously concerned about the reduction in combat readiness associated with the placement of women in the combat arms. I believe the AOG should adopt a clear policy on this issue that reflects the large majority view of graduates with combat experience.

[1077]  One has the perception that the inchoate long term goal of elements in the Congress is to eliminate USMA. "Just look how well the non-USMA officers are doing [indicator, comparative #s in flag rank]." Somehow or other USMA (and its sister institutions) have to inculcate in the minds of Americans that their West Point is the quintessential element in ensuring the country's continued possession of a first rate Army Otherwise I think that gradually with pricks here and there the Congress will look to Academe to produce its officers. Demise will be analagous to that of military medicine.

[1078]  My impression, unfounded though it may be, deals with an overall societal trend in lowering the standard of achievement to the point where mediocrity is ultimately rewarded. My sense is that this is happening at the service academy level as well as in society and it is disappointing to see that happen.

[1079]  I believe USMA is doing a better job of preparing cadets for service in the Army. However, changes over the last 20-25 years have been so radical that I fear there may be a disconnect between "old grads" and "young grads" concerning their view of their West Point years. Service in the Army beyond the minimum obligation and participation in local West Point Societies tends to bridge this generation gap, in my opinion. Old grads need to keep up with what is happening at USMA and in the Army.

[1080]  I think that the USMA has somewhere forgotten that its mission is first and foremost to develop soldiers who will lead troops into combat. Anything else is superfluous and is just adhering to the "Flavor of the Month" leadership theory. There is a very strong belief in America that USMA is just another Northern Liberal Arts College. If that thought is manifested in the halls of Congress, why is it needed at all? To quote Steven Covey, "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing." It apperars that West Point is more concerned with social acceptability than with the providing of warriors to our nation. of soldiers.

[1081]  Inadequate funding by DA.

[1082]  I believe the Commandant's intended plan to do away with the fourth class system is a significant issue and is misguided. It historically has played an important role in identifying individuals who are capable of assuming the stress and pressures of command. The Commandant's dismantling the system represents another step in the lowering of West Point and Army standards. Pretty soon West Point and the Army will be as pathetic as the rest of society.

[1083]  The Admissions Office seems to be doing very little grassroots development of women and minority candidates. I have been sorely embarrassed to see what Annapolis and Air Force are doing in comparison to West Point. Seems we need to take some Admissions lessons from the otehr academies. This has been extremely disappointing.

[1084]  I am still concerned about the female effect on the male standards.

[1085]  While I agree that academic excellence is important to the development of young officers, cadets must be stressed. They can be stressed with the 4th Class System (don't limit food), academic requirements, and discipline. We're preparing cadets to be "computer nerds" without focusing on their ability to lead, handle stress, and serve as officers in a very dynamic military. Allocate more funds for Airborne, Air Assault, DCLT, CTLT, etc. As a cadet, I received most of my Army orientation while at CTLT - make cadets get out there and be stressed.

[1086]  Retention of graduates on active duty.

[1087]  I am quite concerned that Congress appears to be looking to graduates of the service academies to provide funds or funding for some activities at said academies which were in the past funded by the government or Congress. Once started in a major way, it will be impossible to revert back to the funding practices of the past. This snowball is already beginning to roll.

[1088]  I have heard the following rumors which I find a bit troubling: the elimination of the Area, and the practice of making bunks with "green girls" instead of gray blankets. I heard that the idea behind getting rid of the gray blankets was to encourage breaking sheets nightly. It seems like what has happened was that instead of maintaining a standard, we are settling for a lower one. I have also heard that USMA is attempting to recruit a higher caliber cadet candidate by offering more ways to go to medical school, law school, and pro sports. I think that getting smarter future Army officers is a great idea, but will we encourage fewer graduates to leave the service for higher paying civilian employment?

[1089]  Application of the honor code. My impression from living in Colorado Springs and in the vic of the Air Force Academy is that expectations (in military and civ world) of 18 and 19 year olds today regarding honor is low; that going through college without lying, cheating or stealing is just no longer achievable. I consider this BS. Our military academies need to maintain the standard when it comes to honor - it's really what separates us from the rest of the colleges around the country.

[1090]  I have sensed a trend towards not recognizing the value of West Point Graduates who leave the service after the minimum required service. Many of us have made an impact on our community by starting businesses, etc. These civilian contibutions to the nation are also important, just different than a career in the Army.

[1091]  1. The demise of the 4th class system, and the diminishing emphasis on warfighting. I do not believe that ever cadet who drops out is a failure of Academy leadership; I do believe that every cadet who graduates and who should not IS a failure of Academy leadership. Civilian colleges have attrition; we should have HIGHER attrition. I also do not believe that we should equate leadership at USMA with leadership in the army. Cadets are smart enough to know that plebes aren't privates. USMA should be more difficult than the army. That's the difference it provides over ROTC; the standards are harder; a cadet is nurtured, he/she is challenged; the program should be qualitativly different as well. Wearing a uniform to class every day is not enough of a distinction between USMA and ROTC.

[1092]  Concerned with the long term success of USMA when the military continues to be reduced and played down.

[1093]  Having been an instructor at the Academy, I am concerned about the cadets' acceptance of the toleration clause to the Honor Code.

[1094]  As stated above mission needs to change back. Academy needs renewed focus on academic institution.

[1095]  I have two suggestions: 1. I am concerned to hear from graduates that they regard the status of women and minorities at USMA to be clearly "different." We all want to see women/minorities succeed and take their rightful place in the Academy and in the Army -- but I am getting scuttlebutt that they seem to get more lenient treatment in the disciplinary system, honor system, and perhaps also in academics. I hope this is rubbish. I suggest the TD sound out trusted cadet leaders on this issue, and perhaps consider a means to counter an impression within the Corps. That could be done by counselling in small groups, or having the first class deal with this perception among the cadets themselves. I hope the issue is in fact one of misperceptions. If not, then the Academy has a problem. Political correctness does not square with the ideals of duty-honor-country, and sets up sub-cultures in the Corps which work against Academy goals. If women and minorities need more help in some aspect of Academy life, then by all means set aside time and resources to help them -- but they have to get through the same wickets as everybody else. My experience is that stories of favoritism, if true, do more damage than short-term heat USMA may have to take for not being so politically correct. 2. The second issue is of public communications at the executive level. In an openly contentious age, the Internet and other media foster the linking up of affinity groups, to include many who do not have the best interests of USMA or the country at heart. Often hot-headed and shrill, such groups are clearly going to cause more and more trouble for the Academy. West Point needs to arm itself. Why can't the AOG organize a stable of blue-ribbon spokespeople (as SECARMY does with DA regional and state representatives) to help tell the Academy's story, contact opinion-makers discretely, and if necessary to explain and defend the USMA position in articles, op-ed pieces, TV appearances, etc.? In a looming public affairs crisis, after DA and USMA have said what they need to say to Congress or the public, the Supe should be able to call on blue-ribbon talent to augment and personalize the Academy's case. I am talking about Schwartzkopf, Rogers, Meyer, Franks, Cronkhite, Bush, Shultz and myriad other distinguished figures who love West Point and have the recognition to give persuasive witness and to help deflect misguided criticism. The AOG needs to consider how to set up such help responsively, pro-actively to help the Supe from getting personally enmeshed in what is clearly going to get much worse. Other universities have discrete "support groups." Why can't we? Finally, the AOG can give the Supe some political cover -- he needs to distance himself from some issues.

[1096]  The Academy is becoming too politically correct. Decisions are too focused on looking good to the media and ignoring the fact that our job is to train leaders to wage and win wars (filled with horribly politically incorrect situations).

[1097]  Potential conflict between an effective private fund-raising system, and the need to present a continuing convincing case in support of gaining/retaining appropriated funding. I am concerned that the Congress may lean to reducing the latter because of success with the former.

[1098]  Happy to see the Superintendent's initiatives with regard to mission. Need to redouble efforts to promote the Academy as a source of "leaven" for the bread called "US Army."

[1099]  I support those who thought the word character was redundant

[1100]  see item 17

[1101]  Need to keep something in the mission statement like what is proposed about having officers who are dedicated to a career in the Army and service to their nation. If that is not there we are just an officer factory that gets the minimum service out of many graduates. The root of the problem is that we attract candidates with a short term focus instead of candidates who are interested in a career of service. It is similar to our Army recruiting program now: we advertise 'join the Army and get money so you can go to college'. Then we have trouble with reenlistments and find out all the soldiers are getting out and doing what they always intended to do - go to college. It is hard to change their minds and certainly we can't get mad at them. They are doing what we asked them to do.

[1102]  I am not sure but I have heard that Plebes get a lot more priviledges than before. I am not sure if that is true, nor am I sure of the rationale.

[1103]  The Academy needs to focus on keeping and attracting leaders who intend the Army to be a career and not just for a good education knowing that they can get out a year after graduation. I suggest increasing the mandatory commitment to 8 years or more. Also inact DA legislation that will not allow Academy Graduates to take early out options to the National Guard.

[1104]  Graduates are not "Duty" focused-seem to be focused on self USMA does not produce officers with a career mentality and service to nation as a driving goal-many are self centered Mission should return to producing combat arms officers to serve the nation-any college can produce leaders for America We are loosing our way and what the Academy was established for.

[1105]  1. The movement away from RA commissions for graduates

[1106]  Cadets need to be given intensive courses in "survival skills"--financial planning, how to determine life, disability, health and car insurance needs, factors to consider between renting and purchasing, what a mortgage really means etc.

[1107]  1 Mission Statement 2 What I consider to be the gradual change from a military academy to a civilian college. in uniform.

[1108]  I think General Christman has got it right. for some time now the Academy has been producing graduates whose purpose in life is not service to the Army but as a springboard to jobs in government and the civilian sector.

[1109]  I am concerned about the elimination of several traditions, including the walking of area tours, the dinner meal, continued weakening of the 4th Class Year, etc.

[1110]  Gender norming of leadership and physical fitness resutls. Graduates are asked to contribute money often. How much money is contributed by parents of cadets to sports programs. Please identify by sport? Especially concerned about sports which have minimual leadership value impact. Point being with over 25% of the corps involved in intercollegiate sports have we watered down many of these teams just so we can show up. In some cases I feel its a waste of money for cadets to be competing in sports that were traditionally club activities and should remain so.

[1111]  Where is the focus on training combat leaders - not managers of technology? Our soldiers deserve hard charging, great leaders, not consensus builders.

[1112]  I feel a lack of financial support from the Army fiscal appropriations. For example, it seems incongruous that the military can fire million dollar missiles, but not rebuild the fire-ravaged pistol range.

[1113]  The substitution of "educationally correct" courses at the expense of military-oriented courses (Military History) should be reviewed. Many of the graduates of today's professional schoo;ls are well oriented on social issues, but lack a deeper understanding of their craft, this being traceable to shortened professional background studies to make room for social awareness studies that may or may not be useful to the professional in his/her work. An active curiosity on the part of the student is not a good substitute for formal, expository instruction.

[1114]  Not enough information to answer.

[1115]  1. The mandatory number of civilian instructors.

[1116]  1. The RA commission problem, which is larger than just the USMA aspect of it . 2. The Performance and retention of females graduates. 3. The civilian instructor growth 4. The reduction of stress during plebe year (include the shortening of the time period that plebes are in a truly stressful environment) 5. Graduating by Order of Merit. That the way life and taking it away from cadet life represents a step backward in their preparation for like as an Army Officer. Reciting everyday in every class is another step backward. I found that training absoluting invaluable when I was doing my graduate work at the masters and doctoral levels as well as in my commissioned officer career.

[1117]  Is this proposed mission change really necessary, or is the Supe just trying to leave his mark? I read his letters, but I'm not convinced.

[1118]  deminished emphasis on developing combat leaders

[1119]  I am concerned about a lack of understanding of the importance of military academies (not just USMA; I have a son and daughter-in-law who graduated from USAFA in 91.) in the past and future well being of this nation on the part of the Congress and some of the leadership in the Armed Forces. This is demonstrated best by the failure of the Administration and the Congress to provide an adequate level of support to the Academies in the current and projected budgets and the fact that we graduates are being asked to support many activities and projects that were previously supported with appropriated funds.

[1120]  The common perception that the Academy's mission is re-focusing it's efforts on the more "soft" elements of leadership and skills, rather than on the more warrior elements of being an Army officer. This includes many of the disturbing topics discussed in the USMA listerver. This includes those topics that address the formal or informal USMA and Army initiatives that are softening and padding the West Point "experience" so as to meet the demands of the more politically-correct environment that is so popular today.

[1121]  Unethical treatment of older professors in the physical education department - demanding that they receive a PhD to stay employed after providing so many excellent years of teaching and mentoring cadets. Somebody should be relieved of duty for pushing this terrible policy.

[1122]  I plan to go to WP to view the current 4th Class system. I help as an admin rep and feel uniformed on the changes in the system.

[1123]  Not enough info to judge.

[1124]  All in all, happy with direction, but probably not informed enough with current issues to comment in a meaningful fashion.

[1125]  I personally concur with the current USMA position that any short term attempt to "reverse DOD poicy regarding elimination of automatic regular commissions for USMA grads" would be a non-starter in todays political climate.. Besides, if we are as good as we say, then USMA would be very competitive in RA evaluation down the line.. On the other hand I have strong concerns, on behalf of any young commissioned officer from whatever the source, about withholding that evaluation until the 10th year. Many outstanding officers will be unwilling to wait that long considering the professional risks involved..

[1126]  It appears that the function of the school no longer is developing officers for the combat arms. I think this dilutes the school's focus and uniqueness.

[1127]  1. I'm not happy with the enforcement policy of the Honor Code. 2. I think the mission statement needs to remain Army-oriented, without mention of "leadership" of the country (implying civilian sector)

[1128]  USMA is becoming too much like a regular college. We cannot allow the academy to become a social experiment and become too soft, because it only endangers the future of the institution.

[1129]  - Focus on academics vs. service. At the Navy game last month, and with new lieutenants who have recently graduated, there is a clear "what's in it for me" attitude. Complex problem, with roots in society and the pool we draw from, but the trend is disturbing.

[1130]  Heard rumors of the commissioning process changing for cadets that did not sound positive.

[1131]  See answer to 15. I recently attended our 40th reunion at WP. I was amazed at how unkept, ill disciplined and poorly trained the Corps looked. Perhaps since all firsties are officers, one in each company can be the OIC of close order drill. The alternate (?) First Captain, trailing the staff as a caboose, is ridiculous. I fear these are indicators of a larger problem that is not apparent to anyone no longer closely associated with USMA but which crops up in the disturbing rumors of the poor regard graduates are held in when they reach units.

[1132]  I am not close enough to what is happening to say that I am either happy or unhappy

[1133]  I recently attended my 10 year reunion. I have to say that the physical changes like the "new" Thayer Gate look good. However, I feel that some changes like the cadets no longer having to go combat arms is a mistake. USMA is becoming like any other commissioning source. This begs the question--is the USMA cadet going to give the Army something that an ROTC cadet can't give? If the answer is no, then you may as well close down the academy. It is a lot less expensive to get a 2LT from ROTC.

[1134]  Must work to maintain its distinction as a military academy versus trying to be just another officer commissioning source.

[1135]  1. Not graduating with Regular Army commissions is a serious reduction in the stature of West Point as a whole. I read the comments in last Assembly and find it disturbing that there doesnt seem to be a recognition of the importance of this point. If there isnt a change of attitude, West Point will continue to lose support in Congress and with the public to the point that its very existance will be rightfully challenged. 2. I know as an old grad I have the right and responsibility to point out that "the Corps has.." But I am disturbed to read and here that it at least appears Army Basic Traing is becoming more challenging than Beast, much less Plebe year.

[1136]  Regular Commissions vs Reserve

[1137]  At all costs, resist gays at West Point. The Army's primary mission is to train warriors to fight. We are not training country-club gentlemen. I hope the recruiting process somehow attempts to identify gay recruits.

[1138]  Becoming a parent while a cadet should not be tolerated. Academic courses and military training should support careers in the combat arms.

[1139]  I'm concerned about USMA's ability to maintain a clean dividing line between funding for academy operations provided through traditional government sources and the application of funds from graduates for improvements that go beyond the baseline costs of operating and maintaining the institution. I am not familiar with all of the details around the issue of granting graduates Regular Army commissions upon graduation, but I think that the retreat from this practice undermines the significance of the role of USMA in providing top tier officers, at least insofar as the public's perception of that significance.

[1140]  * RA Commissions

[1141]  I am concerned that cadets are no longer automatically entered into active duty and that branching into combat arms is no longer mandatory, even temporarily.

[1142]  Need stronger position for graduation with Regular Army Commission.

[1143]  Too much breaking with tradition. Example: no Saturday class, more free time, plebes falling out etc.. Physical condition of barracks, painting cracks in walls etc..

[1144]  I am not sure what direction West Point is heading in since I have personally never been able to link academy activities directly to force structuring in the Army. I am becoming more of a believer that the academy should become more structured as a graduate or finishing school for cadets that come in with already having a undergraduate degree.

[1145]  I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY OUR ENROLLMENT IS MAINTAINED AT THE APPARENTLY HIGH LEVEL OF 4,000+/- CADETS , AND YET THE SERVICE OFFERS EARLY OUT TO MANY GRADUATES. In light of the fiscal attention all the adademies are receiving from congress and their constituents, would it not be prudent to be proactive and "volunteer" a cost cutting plan that involved lowering enrollment? It must anger the public to hear of the $250,000 education our cadets receive and then hear of some who do not fullfill their commttment of 5 years - at the request of the DOD.

[1146]  Regular commissions for grads. Retention of grads in Army.

[1147]  Don't really know enough to comment intelligently. Same applies to several of these questions.

[1148]  Should have a category of:"Not familiar enough with process."

[1149]

[1150]  1. Military Science and leadership training should be expanded.

[1151]  Seems the Supe is too much a fund-raiser, as in Civilian colleges. He demeans the USMA by worrying so much about 'better'sport facilities. Rather have him worry about getting the best trained/educated grads with available resources. Too much emphasis on sports--they are important but not not that much.

[1152]  There is too much emphasis on political correctness rather than on producing leaders for the Army to accomplish its combat mission.

[1153]  Loaded Question. Let me see list of where you think West point is going. I believe then I could identify some areas of concern.

[1154]  I think that West Point needs to continue in the direction of training the cadets better toward the Regular Army.

[1155]  I'm concerned with the lack of 4th class system. I feel that it is very important that plebes be able to learn to function efficiently under stress- be it physical or mental. Much of my personal development I owe to that system that has been moth-balled.

[1156]  Class gifts. Does class have choice or must class choose from provided list?

[1157]  How do we justify our academy when so many graduates are not committed to a full 20 year career.

[1158]  see answer to 16 above

[1159]  Tradition - Tradition - Tradition & Emphasize Professional leadership both civilian and Military ... Hybrid type education

[1160]  Building leaders of character should include an intense experience to develop young bodies and minds (ie bring back the fourth class system)

[1161]  Do what it takes to USMA funded as a national institutiuon

[1162]  In general, the direction is appropriate. I'm not familiar enough with the full spectrum of West Point policies or issues to endorse a blanket 'happy' statement.

[1163]  My wife and I sponsor many USAFA cadets and also have sponsored several USMA graduates as they arrive for duty at Fort Carson. In my opinion there is a single thing lacking which has been greatly detrimental to the quality of our current graduate. I was once told during my training at USMA 1953-1957 "The finest steel must go thru the hotest fire". It seems to us that the hot fire has been replaced by an attitude of physical accomodation. In other words, over the years we have slipped into a mode of making our cadets comfortable in lieu of marching them thru that "hottest fire" that makes me proud to wear the West Point Ring and know that I am part of that Long Gray Line. I spent over 35 years working as a State Admissions Coordinator for three DAD's. Colonel Manley Rogers, Colonel Al Rushton, and Colonel Mike Jones. On my watch there have been over a thousand members of the Corps of Cadets admitted under my supervision. The quality of the individual being admitted is increasingly better each year, however in late 1989 to present day I have observed a product that may not be of the fiber to be tested in the "hottest fire." This concerns me because as I "reach from the shadows to grip hands" with the newer graduates I need to be sure that the West Point ring means the same to that new grauate as it has always meant to me. Service to Country, service to The Academy and most important-an emblem of something to die for.

[1164]  In this time of cutbacks in the Army, I think the cadets need to understand the value of selfless service to their nation.

[1165]  The USMA leadership is too concerned with being politically correct and appeasing the media, They are too scared of calling attention to themselves and offending Congress. Anything being done at the Academy, be it a tradition (4th Class System) or a bonding ritual (blood wings), that could even remotely be cause for a news story on a slow day at CNN is tossed away and rationalized as "no good officer would ever do that to his soldiers". The Academy leadership needs to show more back-bone and stand up for what makes West Point unique.

[1166]  Too much weight given to athletic prowess in the cadet candidate selection process.

[1167]  1. I believe that USMA is giving up on the old plebe system too quickly. OK to change a little but why so fast? Old System has proved to have done a pretty good job!!

[1168]  USMA needs to Market itself as a top educational and the top leadership insitution in the nation. We can not just sit a hope to have the young talented people apply. Tell the youth of America that we at good, tough and want the best to lead the best.

[1169]  After serving on the USMA academic faculty during the period when academic majors were instituted, I have concerns about 1) overspecialization of academic disciplines, and 2) watering down the historically strict academic standards imposed upon cadets. Today's Army requires its officers to maintain a degree of technical sophistication, and reducing the hard science/engineering requirements for graduation are going to end up being counterproductive.

[1170]  There have been a number of controvertial issues in the past year, of which I don't have the details at hand -- Col ?? Leadership Dept?? General concern is whether the current cadets are being developed with a true sense of "Duty, Honor, Country" or are we beginning to turn out wimps!

[1171]  Reserve commissions Early outs Challenge of the leadership system

[1172]  We teach it in CGSC! Good example for students writing their Leadership Papers.

[1173]  1. I am very disappointed by the fact that rooms have been installed with locks. The Supe gave an explanation for this during a 1986 reunion address, but his answer did not satisfy me (and most of my classmates I spoke to). 2. It seems to me that the academy places too much emphasis on stressing politically correct themes, such as sensitivity training. The overall priority should be to instill a warrior mentality into the cadets. Unfortunately the warrior mentality can be foreign, even offending, to those outside of the profession of arms, and I am concerned that the academy is attempting to be appease all those who are concerned. 3. I hear rumors through the grapevine that the honor system is loosing its teeth within the Corp. Although I'm not aware first-hand of any specific examples, I certainly hope this is not the case.

[1174]  No list. I am just not sufficiently aware of what is going on to ratify process being followed.

[1175]  Loss of focus on discipline, military mission; too much social reengineering experimentation.

[1176]  Why is the mission statement not permitted(?) to say anything about education? It seems to me that for a degree-offering-institution, shouldn't something be said to the Superintendent that "he must provided a (Fill in the blank, as appropriate) education in accordance with blah- blah-blah. It does seem to me that academics are the single overwhelmingly dominant factor in remaining at the Academny for four years, yet there is no mention of "education" in the mission statement (is there?). Just a thought.

[1177]  Don't have enough information to vote.

[1178]  Concerned with the potential for erosion of values due to external pressures to conform to transient/shallow societal fads and pop psychology...particularly with reference to the honor code and 4th class system

[1179]  Keep standards high.

[1180]  We are moving away, more and more, from being a military academy and one that prepares many graduates for civilian careers as soon as possible. What even happened to the needs of the service. Time to tighten the shoe but with all of the "touchey-feely" today I doubt that will happen. The Superintendent leading cheers may make him feel good but does not befit the dignity of the position.

[1181]  I disagree with the goal to make all West Pointers career officers. Serving a five year commitment pays the nation back and brings in people with greater political diversity.

[1182]  USMA has lost the bubble. It is no longer an institution dedicated to providing warriors for the Army. it has been feminized and diluted. The mission stement is only the first example of this decline. Where is the emphasis on "winning our nations's wars'? Instead it is on PC BS such as of "consideration for thers, etc., what a crock! I hope our enemis don't find out how far off the track we've gone--and not a PEEP from the OLD GRADS!! Too many G.O.s don't want to be ostracized from the GO Club--don't want to tell thier friends that they've lost the bubble. Too bad most grads have NO IDEA what is going on inthe Armt today--you would weep.

[1183]  I would like to see graduates be able to take their commissions in other services more freely. I have enjoyed serving in the Air Force, and have appreciated the background that USMA provided me for leadership in the A.F., and the civil community as well. Paying back the DoD for the four-year education with service in a branch other than the Army is still payment in full. In addition, in a world where joint or "purple" is considered a good thing, a commission in another service might even be encouraged.

[1184]  Concern that USMA is becoming another ROTC program. No area tours is a classic example.

[1185]  Minority and female recruiting.

[1186]  Electronic Newspapers Minute callers Cows with civilian cloths in rooms

[1187]  - Should be a Military Academy, but the continuing movement to fully conform with all aspects of what society currently deems "politically correct" or succumbing to the softening mentality takes away the distinction that the Academy once had (as few as 5 years ago).

[1188]  I would be interested in being apprised of legislation, potential legislation, and other political activities which would or could adversely impact West Point as an educational institution and as a source of commissioned officers for the US Army (and Armed Forces). If attuned to such activities, I would be pleased to contact my Congressional Delegation and express my views.

[1189]  Erosion of the Honor Code

[1190]  I am not aware of the current direction of USMA.

[1191]  It seems we are giving up tradition, without a real payback. Things such as uniforms, the presures (non-academic), recognition are all major changes that I believe are not the best approach to develop officers that can function under extreme pressure. My impression is that change is being made more so that individual leaders can make major changes that will get them remembered in history than what is best strategically for the academy.

[1192]  I am concerned that we should be doing more to help the public in ways that can assist us carry out the mission of the AOG. No organization that exclusively serves itself can ever achieve greatness. We need to be very creative in defining a program that fills a valid need and also produces support for WP.

[1193]  I'm concerned about downsizing that I understand is happening. I also think that a shorter commitment after graduation would be better than the longer, partially unobserved, commitment.

[1194]  Loss of respect for honor code, lowering of standards of behavior

[1195]  I DON'T THINK GRADUATES IN RECENT YEARS SEE THEMSELVES AS CAREER OFFICERS. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MANY BARELY GET THROUGH THEIR COMMITMENT AND THEN QUIT.

[1196]  Not currently informed to make a judgement.

[1197]  Although I'm not entirely apprised of relevant facts, I'm concerned that the fundamentals of "Duty, Honor, Country" are being diluted by other lesser values in response to public pressure resulting from problems in the Army or at West Point, or both. I would appreciate information about this topic or where to find such information.

[1198]  From what little I can tell, USMA is becoming too liberal/politically correct to continue in its long tradition of preparing men, and now women, for a life's career in the service of our country.

[1199]  1.Women at the Academy 2.Too much focus on minority representation

[1200]  Cadet discipline(community service vs. area tours) post-graduation participation in AOG & Societies Bogus cost comparisons of USMA and civilian universities in the media

[1201]  I am aware of the continuing military "re-engineering" efforts to contain costs and shape the force to everchanging missions, but I feel that USMA has strayed from its primary mission: Provide the Army with core, warrior professionals in its Regular Commission ranks! Though I am out of the active service through the downsizing initiatives of the past 7 years, mine and my classmates' West Point military education put us well ahead of our military comrades from the ROTC & OCS channels. Our training programs, facilities and support positioned us for great success when we arrived to our OBC posts. It was not until I started OBC at Ft. Rucker that I realized how well trained I was compared to those officers from ROTC/OCS.

[1202]  See tenor of comments above. Have to make a concerted effort to preserve the institution and its values.

[1203]  I'm always concerned that too much tinkering with a good thing can hurt it. Change is the only constant in life and I feel confident that all grads understand the basic principles that make USMA special and will strive to maintain them. As such, I am generally content with the direction that West Point is heading.

[1204]  - Current trend at USMA seems to make the academy resemble the active army in terms of senior-subordinate relationships and behavior. While this will assist graduates in making the early successful transition from cadet to junior officer, the long term benifits gained through the more raditional aspects of the forth class system may be lost. Making West Point a direct reflection of the army places the academy at risk of losing the unique individuality which created the great leaders of its past. I am concerned the current direction of the academy, while clearly affected by political preassure, may create an environment which is simply a more expensive ROTC program. West Point should maintain the traditional aspects of the forth class system and unique traditions which are aimed at developing the 'long-term' leader, not just a technically and tactically prepared lieutenant.

[1205]  I am interested in how USMA is coping with the recent budget cuts and studies that propose to eliminate the military academies because of their prohibitive costs.

[1206]  I've ventilated in the comment boxes above..if you are interested please read those comments.

[1207]  I regret the loss of regular army commissions. I do not support females attending the Military Academy.

[1208]  Too much civilianization of the Academy.

[1209]  Having been on staff at USMA for the last three years (JAN 95 - DEC 97), I am very concerned with several of the changes that are occurring: - Greatly increased emphasis on intercollegiate athletics at the cost of other worthwhile cadet activities, e.g. Club-Squad sports and extracurricular clubs. Stronger emphasis on intercollegiate sports by current Supe vs. previous Supe means that more assets (financial resources, staff assistance and support, cadet time, etc.) are going in that direction at the expense of other activities that benefit both the professional and personal development of cadets. I want Army teams to win too, but there must be a balanced approach. USMA will never be able to compete with "super schools" like Nebraska or Michigan State and should not be overly concerned with trying. - Increased leaves/passes for all cadets and Cow (Second Class) cars after Spring Leave means even less upperclass leadership/supervision in the Corps and presence in and around West Point on the weekends. This is resulting in further loss of camaraderie and identity (unit cohesion) within the Corps. - Increased leaves/passes for all cadets and Cow (Second Class) cars after Spring Leave means even less time spent on academics during the week and especially on weekends. - Lack of Corps-wide cadet room standards (Firsties essentially have apartment rooms now with electrical appliances, rugs, furnature, etc.). Firsties are no longer modeling the ideal for the underclass. - M16's vs. M14's for drill and ceremonies? I am glad that the Commandant wants to make USMA more like the "real Army," but "real Army" soldiers do NOT keep M16's in their rooms. Will the cadet barracks all have certified arms rooms (with JSIDS, etc.) in each company area? The Old Guard uses M14's for drill and ceremonies, not M16's. Are they changing to be more like the "real Army"? When will the Corps switch from kaydet gray to green (like the "real Army")? - Work Tours for punishment (instead of the traditional waste of cadet free time: Area Tours) is a joke among cadets. While the post engineers (DHPW) and a few other activities may, on rare occasion, get some useful assistance from cadet "slave labor" on weekends, from what I have seen and heard, the new program is marginal at best. BRING BACK THE AREA.

[1210]  Continue to vigorously pursue Regular Army commissions for graduates

[1211]  I am concerned about the process of delaying RÅ commissions to grads

[1212]  The academic quality of the education received by cadets and the quality of faculty members as compared to 10 years ago. The reduction in cadet cohesion due to the elimination of mandatory dinner meals. The recent trouncing suffered in the Army-Navy game.

[1213]  A few years ago, it was brought to my attention that they are now using locks on each cadet's door. If this is correct, then I have a serious problem with the integrity of the Corps. Have the standards of admission been changed?

[1214]  I am concerned that the honor code be a priority I think the life of a cadet should remain spartan to build character as it has in the past

[1215]  West Point is becoming too much like other schools. It has always been more challenging, more difficult and something special. Sacrifices are made for what is gained.

[1216]  1. I am very disturbed by full page ads in minority magazines which state "Get a free education! Go to West Point." 2. It is my understanding that the new mission statement has reduced emphasis on "a full career in the U. S. Army."

[1217]  Probably not too well informed for this one, but I am concerned with some of the curriculum moves - I think it should focus on basics and let the specialization come in graduate school. Need to educate future military leaders NOT doctors. lawyers, politicians, etc. Think that liberalizing Plebe Year is a weakening - the Corps has? Am not a big fan of big time college athletics - compete at the level appropriate for a school its size. Think there is merit in reducing the number of cadets to fit in with an overall US military policy regarding how we people our officer corps.

[1218]  I strongly agree with Mark B. Elfendal's letter to the AOG in the Jan/Feb 98 edition of the Assembly (p.2). The West Point experience is now too easy. It's not training our future leaders how to cope with stress and pressure. I've spoken to many cadets and they agree with me, West Point is too soft. I have tried to live my life by the tenets expressed in Schofield's Definition of Discipline. I still know the word's by heart as I always will. I'm afraid today's West Point has swung the pendulum so far that the true meaning of Schofield will be lost.

[1219]  I'm not sure I understand the rationale of substituting community service work for area tours if the point of area tours was to waste your time and serve as punishment. Helping someone else is not punishment.

[1220]  USMA is becoming too collegiate and not emphasizing enough the military aspects of the education.

[1221]  Make use of the civilian resources in a larger scope than just the academy--to help each other, help build a better military, and a better world. The abilities of graduates are already tested and their loyalty is already tried. There must be ways those skills and their vast talents can be used to help the various agencies of our nation.

[1222]  1. Trend toward more civilian instructors. 2. The taking of the administration of the Honor Code from the Corps.

[1223]  Not sure what some ofthe latest changes at USMA have been

[1224]  Reduction of academic load Decline of the strict fourth class system Removal of absence cards from rooms Locks on doors Denial of RA commissions to USMA graduates Reduction of APFT standard to normal army standard 50/50 military/civilian professor mix Number of recent graduates who left service before completing the 5 year commitment

[1225]  NY Times Sun Supplement showed slouchy plebes wearing watches & gazing about, dining tables a discusting mess, most wearing eye glasses. Article said cadets used expletives,plebes had gatherings to shine boots and talk,phoned for pizzas and phoned home or to girl friends. Does the Army in the field phone for pizzas and have coke machines in their tents? Allowing Cadets to swear probably bothers me the most.

[1226]  over emphasis on corps squad sports lack of retention of graduates on active duty lack of knowledge about West Point among young people

[1227]  Since the Goodpaster days, I have been skeptical that our focus is on guarding the traditions of the Militarty Academy, training military officers, keeping our best in uniform and helping them succeed.

[1228]  Predisposition that USMA needs to promote a career in the Army versus a lifetime of service to the nation.

[1229]  The "softening" of the leadership program. I do not mean the normal "Corps has..." talk. The kinder and gentler Corps---for example, where a voice cannot be raised at a Plebe---does not fully teach the Plebe how to react to pressure, nor does it teach the upperclassmen how to use pressure when needed (envision a gentle "Follow me" or "Take that hill") to gain attention. We need to follow the Marines' lead -- less political correctness and more focus on what leads to the best warriors. You will have a prouder, more loyal graduate when you make the program tougher.

[1230]  4th class system Honor system Academic preparation for post military careers

[1231]  -Bring back area tours! -Keep plebe year stressful! -Keep objectivity in class ranking- don't weigh subjective areas too highly

[1232]  B. S. & L. style of touchy feely officer prep is out of control.

[1233]  I'm concerned with the fact that graduates are having a terrible time with field grade promotions given the scaled back scope of the military. I'm concerned with the lack of regular commissions for graduates.

[1234]  It's not a college. As an instructor in DPE, I'm amazed by the amount of lackadasical attitudes displayed by cadets in regards to physical activity. Happy to pass rather than excel.

[1235]  They all concern me. What concerns me most is the honor code and how it is being implemented. Second, I'm concerned with our admissions process.

[1236]

[1237]  I think that West Point needs to address the reality that not all graduates are going to serve 20 years in the Army. They should support those graduates who elect to or are forced to seek employment outside of the Army after completion of their committment. This should be above and beyond the Army's outprocessing program. I don't think that most West Point graduates fall into the same category as the general Army population that these services cover. I believe that some of the elite civilian institutions have stronger networks than the West Point network, and I think that West Point and the other academies should be the strongest. Unfortunately, West Point is blinded by the belief that they are creating career military leaders, when that is just not true. The agreement is for 5 years, not 20. With that in mind, we need to have an accessible graduate network that is the envy of the rest of the world. That will strengthen the academy and increase the value of becoming a graduate. I remember as a cadet how it was taboo to talk about serving your commitment and moving on to another career. In our professional discussions, cadets exclaimed the virtues of a military career. You can imagine my surprise when the Captains list came out 4 years after graduation and I was on the list with just a hand full of my classmates, not because they were not selected, but because they had already departed the service or had submitted their paperwork to resign. We need a partnership between AOG and the academy to acknowledge this fact of life and strengthen the network of graduates to create access to and provide information about the high quality civilian careers that our graduates are taking part in and willing to advise other graduates about.

[1238]  I have heard of some disturbing attempts to reduce or minimize the long-held traditions of duty to country, honor, and selfless dedication by outside sources... how can graduates help?

[1239]  I think that the Academy is conforming too much to the "kinder, gentler Army" and "softening" up the Plebe year too much. The political correctness is negatively affecting the Academy. As a Firstie last year, I noticed the Plebes were becoming less and less disciplined as my cadet career progressed. The upperclass was getting their authority undermined by overzealous TAC officers. Give the First Class cadets more control and more responsibility and, for lack of a better phrase, KEEP THE TACS AWAY.

[1240]  Lack of commitment to the military by permanent faculty; lack of emphasis on retention in the army after graduation; lack of warrior/soldier superintendents;over-emphasis on academics; grads being allowed to go directly into medical school; existence of academic majors & accredidation;

[1241]  West Point seems to be heading for Honor controlled by the Administration, locks on the doors, rugs, refrigerators, reserve commissions and other weaknesses.

[1242]  My ultimate concern is that USMA is earning its right to remain a nationally supported institution. All USMA policies should have in mind, "How is West Point above and beyond what ROTC cadets get?" and "How is USMA truly contributing to provide the nation with strong leaders." I believe that not enough is done to let the public at large know about the sacrifices and leaders of character that come from the Academy. Yet, if we aren't necessarily producing those strong leaders, then of course we can't tought that.

[1243]  Its emphasis on minority recruitment is quite frightening. I thought USMA was different than civilian institutions and didn't succumb to popular notions of PC and affirmative action. I'd like to see USMA recruit highly qualified people who want more than ever to be West Pointers, regardless of race. Let's get good people back in the Corps!

[1244]  USMA graduates should go into the combat arms and selected combat support arms. I fully understand that their are limitations for female graduates. However, even female graduates should and they be detailed primarily into the combat support arms. Graduates with medical problems should be the only ones exempted. Also, all graduates must serve a minimum of five years on active duty. The option of transfering to the Reserve component should not be a USMA option.

[1245]  As stated above I believe the Academy is trying to be all things to all people in the interest of being second to none. We are trying to accomplish too much which potentially leads to a drop in quality in mission accomplishment.

[1246]  The focus on academic credentials to the detriment of military goals

[1247]  Based on Supt's presentation at last reunion, concerned about state of the facilities.

[1248]  What direction is it heading?

[1249]  Concerned about the perceived de-emphasis of the importance of West Point and its role in the development of Army officers by the American public and government officials.

[1250]  --not entirely happy with the emphasis being placed on raising money for better athletic equipment and programs ... athletics plays but only a small part in a cadet's education and I believe we do USMA a diservice by trying to attract young men and women to USMA for the athletic programs alone ... emphasis must be placed on bettering academic facilities as well.

[1251]  Although it is visceral, I get the feeling that the Academy is more and more like any other college each day and putting less emphasis on the military aspects of preparing cadets.

[1252]  Male-Female relationship at USMA

[1253]  I think that there have been too many changes too quickly in the system to build toughness (mental, moral and physical) in the Cadet, starting with the dramatic changes in the Plebe system that took place about 10 years ago. I am aware that this is a very different world today than it was when I was a Cadet. However, I am convinced that mental toughness and strength of character are as important today as they ever were, and maybe even more so.

[1254]  1. No RA commissions for graduates 2. I continue to hear of efforts by Congress to close the institution. This greatly concerns me. Do not really have much information on this.

[1255]  I hope that West Point is putting more focus on fostering the "Warrior Spirit" and producing Warriors for Today's Army. As an Infantry Officer and former Company Commander/Ranger Instructor and S3 of the "Benning Phase" of U.S. Army Ranger School (1991-1995), I was alarmed at and surprised by the high failure rate of West Point Graduates (primarily 2LT Infantry Officers). Land Navigation skills were the greatest weakness followed by poor basic tactical skills and poor attitudes. This was very disheartening and somewhat embarrassing to this graduate. I hope the "M" in USMA is alive and well.

[1256]  I'm sure there are some but I'd need more time to write these down. Overall, I am satisfied with WP's current direction.

[1257]  I wonder at times if the liberalization of life at West Point in comparison with earlier years is in the best interest of the Academy, but not being on active duty or in the reserves any longer I am not in a position to evaluate this issue

[1258]  Change of commission status from RA to Reserve.

[1259]  1. As stated above, the mission and purpose statements need radical revision. 2. Summer training needs to be reoriented toward the military--NO MORE WALKS AROUND WALDEN POND DISCUSSING THE MEANING OF THOREAU. Summer training, with very few exceptions (and only in exceptional cases) must be oriented toward the military.

[1260]  Should the institution be moving to more financial independence?

[1261]  Not happy about recruiting athletes with mention of careers other military service.

[1262]  (XXXXXX) was a fraud as an officer, and a fraud as the head of the Dept of Phys Ed. Other officer from the Dept were kept away when he did his PT test becuase he could not do push ups. That is a poor standard for someone who determined which cadets were and were not physically fit enough to graduate.

[1263]  Honor Code does not seem to be what t was. This is vry concerning to me.

[1264]  I think that the Graduates not getting Regular Army Status is a foot in the door to eliminate the Academy and when I was a "new" officer, the Regular Army Commission felt, to me, that it acknowledged the "extra" training that I received in my 4 yrs. at the Academy versus ROTC training..

[1265]  The development of cadets militarily. They will soon be serving with me.

[1266]  LTG Christman seems to be focusing too much on the football program. I never supported the move to the Conference USA.

[1267]  We seem to be focusing more on preparing the cadets to serve society and the country at large whereas we should place greater (not exclusive) emphasis on preparation for and encouragement of an Army career.

[1268]  The only reason to have a West Point is to produce officers for a career of service in the Regular Army. If this is not what the Academy is about, we should close it down. Sometimes, it seems from the published articles and interviews that some people forget that USMA is in the business of training warriors.

[1269]  1. USAR commissions for graduates. 2. Early out programs for professional quality athletes. 3. Quality of facilities, including athletic facilities, available at USMA.

[1270]  Current information re: policies/issues not comprehensive enough

[1271]  Apparently widening gap between USMA values and values of society at large. (i.e. Army CoS Initiative to institute Army wide value training, Kelly Flynn, etc). This is a Societal Problem, but is a problem for USMA none the less

[1272]  nbot sure the academy is not supinely following what is poloically correct rather than what workd to defend the united states of america.

[1273]  Fight to retain the Regular Army commission for all graduates of USMA

[1274]  Increase the number of civilian professors. This coupled with non-automatic active duty commissions leads us on a path to be no different than a good ROTC program at any other university. The less that separates us from other institutes of higher learning, make us more vunerable to extinction.

[1275]  I am concerned that USMA may no longer be fostering a "warrior" ethos and properly developing future combat leaders. It seems that USMA is too concerned with becoming an "Ivy League" university.

[1276]  Having had the privilage to speak to the Junior class of cadets during intercession for two years I found a growing perception that academic achievement is viewed as more important than preparing cadets to be leaders in the US Army. I'm not to sure the intercession concept is the best way to go. Without sounding to much like an old grad, having military training stressed throughout the year seems to be a better approach to remind the cadets what is important. Additionally, the deemphasis of combat arms seems to be misleading our cadets. Although we do need the USMA graduates in all branches of service, the active duty force I leave seems to highlight that it is combat arms branchs that is serving in the majority of command positions. I understand PC but what our Army needs is combat leaders and personally I think West Point should spearhead this area. Talking to many cadets and to many recent graduates, including those who went combat arms, their emphasis appears to be on getting a masters degress and/or some kind of skill they can translate into civilian life. I hope I'm off base on this but that's the perception I have right now. We need to recruit more warfighters.

[1277]  AOG should be more open about its fund raising and project selection for expenditure of funds in my humble opinion.

[1278]  While I think that USMA is generally headed in the right direction, and not whip-lashing itself in response to changes in what is the popular fad of the day, I would hope that we not lose sight of that portion of the mission of the academy, that is, developing leaders of character. I would further emphasize the combat arms focus that USMA has always had, since nowhere else can this leadership be adequately developed.

[1279]  Don't think women should be at West Point but realize that USMA has no choice in the matter.

[1280]  USMA should try to get the candidates most motivated for an Army career and teach them the best it can instead of getting the "best" overall candidates and then trying to motivate them for an Army career. No wonder so many quit as soon as they can!

[1281]  Graduate LTs that are in the long haul i.e. retirement at 20/30yrs, interested in becoming GOs.Reinforce the idea that this is a profession not just another job. Push selfless service!Instill in young grads that they should be concerned about the Army first then themselves.

[1282]  I see the change from developing leaders of character for the Nation, back to an increasing emphasis on developing leaders for the Army when the Army is shrinking and there is no assurance that many in each class will even have the opportunity for making a successful career in the Army, that is, making promotion to LTC. Just a thought.

[1283]  We're rolling over and playing dead on the issue of Regular Commissioning for graduates. We appear to be still frightened by the shadow of Sam Nunn's staffers who rammed this piece of junque through the Congress. Either we believe that the mission of the Academy is to turn out Regular Officers, or we don't. If we don't, let's close down the place and revert to University ROTCs.

[1284]  It appears that West Point has become much more liberal (politically correct) in recent years, and as a result the graduates are not being schooled in many of the basic principles and concepts that has produced the leaders it has in the past. Cadets are at West point to learn the art of warfare and should focus on that idea not a multitude of majors and minor subject areas that take away from becoming combat leaders. - Did USMA appear to stray off azimuth after World War I (1920's and 1930's) or following the Korean War (late 1950's) as much as it seems in the 1990's?

[1285]  Since I graduated, I think there has been too much emphasis on changing West Point to make it "easier" or "more tolerable," so that graduates "fit in" more with the Army. West Point now seems to be less unique and challenging an experience for graduates to hold on to.

[1286]  women in combat lowering of standards curriculum same as any other college/university honor system diluted no regular army commission Academy too large for the Army it serves

[1287]  West Point should not lose its focus on producing combat leaders who have the immense responsibility of fighting future wars alongside the sons and daughters of the American people and winning. The bottom line is combat readiness. The profession of arms is a noble profession but its reputation has been marred in recent events from the SMA to Aberdeen. In light of these events, West Point graduates continue to upkeep a proud tradition. Grads should always ensure we continue to focus on the bottom line.

[1288]  Cadet development focused more on academics than leadership. Can write volumes on this, but need more space.

[1289]  1 Losing the RA commissions. 2 Reduction in amount of graduates going into combat arms

[1290]  I am concerned with what appears to be a lessening of emphasis on military discipline and training. New graduates do not seem to have the intent of making the military a lifetime career.

[1291]  I think the proposed new mission statement is ridiculous. Involving grads in the process has produced a convoluted hodge podge of complexity, and in trying to please every Joe a mockery has been made of the KISS principle. What exactly was the problem with the original 12 word sentence?

[1292]  I support the idea of including "people skills" in a cadet's training, but feel the move to "political correctness" has been too great.

[1293]  Deviation from mission of providing combat leaders Role of women in Army leadership positions Lack of RA commissions Relaxation of 4th class system

[1294]  Change in mission of USMA. See my comments earlier in Survey. De-militarization of USMA. Granting tenure to civilian professors. Reduction of standards to accommodate female cadets.

[1295]  I am concerned about the lack of commitment to service I have seen in recent graduates.

[1296]  USMA graduates and DMG or other similar personnel should be offered regular commisions earlier than 12 years or Field Grade!!!

[1297]  Policies and programs which guide the policies for West Point should be more directly impacted by graduates. Mailings and other forms military franking privileges, perhaps, could be used to provide graduates with this information. The most difficult part of policies and issues is discovering they are current issues.

[1298]  I am concerned that West Point, like the United States Army in general, has expanded its missions to the point that it will be impossible to accomplish any one of them well.

[1299]  I'm concerned about the apparent drift towards USMA being just one of the bunch as far as source of commisioning for the Active Army. I am geeting the sense that Academy officialdom is taking a rather fatalistic "What will be, will be" attitude toward the process. I don't get the sense that anyone is going down to the Puzzle Palace and rattling the cage, it sounds to someone out in the hustings as if beautifully crafted position papers have been prepared to state the case for USMA and whoever is doing the papers is graded on craftsmanship not results.

[1300]  1. I am concerned that USMA appears to be moving away from training for winning battles in defense of our country, away from training people who can be expected to lead in war. 2. I am concerned that USMA cadets may not now be trained to the high physical standards that are required on a battlefield.

[1301]  QUALIFY/INTREGITY OF GRADUATES SEEMS TO BE SLIPPING...NEED TO MAINTAIN HIGHEST STANDARDS WITHOUT COMPROMISE.....RELAXING OF SYSTEM HAS COMPROMISED QUALITY OF GRADUATE...ESPECIALLY ONCE GRADS ARE NO LONGER IN THE MILITARY, THERE INTEGRITY WILL BE TESTED EVEN MORE AND THUS NEED TO BE EVEN STRONGER AND POSSESS THE SELF DISCIPLINE TO DO THE RIGHT THING....

[1302]  Do not use proceeds from fund raising to cover items that should be covered by appropriated funds.

[1303]  Approaching its 200th anniversary, I feel that West Point has been around for a very long time and that the changes which have taken place over the years have been incremental, and I am not particularly worried that the good old rockbound highland home is going to somehow drop off the face of the earth, as some others appear to be.

[1304]  I support the changes being suggested by the current Superintendent. The focus of the mission should be narrowed.

[1305]  1. We don't need a new mission statement. 2. See my remarks on "politically correct" British Science.

[1306]  The civilianization of the faculty and the way they interact with the cadets!

[1307]  The general lack of awareness or appreciation of grads by congress, the executive branch and the public in general.

[1308]  More emphasis on professional development, acting like mature individuals, respect for the rank structure. I noticed some cadets acting childishly while on CTLT, with little respect and plenty of attitude for the lieutenants mentoring them. It was not widespread, but there was enough to make me concerned.

[1309]  Concerned about the RA commissioning of future grads

[1310]  Direction is good, however, I've seen an increasing amount of Cadets looking only for free school and view the military negatively. Many Cadets don't want the obligation. Why come if you don't want to be a soldier for 4-30 years.

[1311]  1. I am very concerned that each of the last 3 Com's have systematically eliminated the 4th class system in favor of a system which is supposed to be more professional. The 4th class system has never been about developing the leadership of the upperclasses. My 4th class systems manual never mentioned the development of the upperclasses in its purpose. It was always understood that true leadership was learned and practiced while leading peers and other upperclassmen. 2. As a football season ticket holder, I had the opportunity to discuss the plebe year with over a dozen 4th classmen/women. They said Beast was a "joke", they were disappointed in the experience that they have had because it has been babying them. Is this what we want? Why not just make the Academy a large ROTC campus? 3. What is the next step in degrading the value of the West Point experience? 4. No Area Tours????

[1312]  There are several things that I would like to mention here, but I do not feel that this is the forum for such comment.

[1313]  I'm not sufficiently aware of current issues and policies to comment. My gut feel is I would have many concerns if I did know what's going on. How does one do that without visiting, observing and talking with current cadets, staff and faculty?

[1314]  1. Development of cocky officers lacking respect.

[1315]  Failure to fight for regular Army commissions

[1316]  lack of focus on combat arms-we should not try to sugar-coat that our purpose is to win wars

[1317]  Academy survival.

[1318]  I think that USMA is striving too hard to get the "Ivy League" type students...concerned too much with high grades, SAT scores, etc., rather than well rounded, physically fit, intelligent students. The focus of USMA is to develop leaders/future officers (who will remain in the Army) not to develop superior intellectual students.

[1319]  I understand class academic ranking has been abandoned. I strongly disagree with this policy and urge that academic ranking be resumed.

[1320]  Should be more concern and communication about the academic curriculum, changes, etc., and less about the athletic program. Granted that the athletic program may seem to be of great interest to many grads, but when we talk with young people about the Academy, the important subject is academics, and a military career, not athletics.

[1321]  As usual, you folks have no fuckin' clue as to what is happening in your own backyard. You got a great country, assholes. Remember yer goddam mission statement? Ring a bell, CROT? I humbly await at your bullshit response. You're steadiliy watching you're own "careers" as good men and women die. Hope it's on your conscionce. (I'll try to spell it right next time.)

[1322]  very concerned about changes in the leader development/4rth class system since not all 18 year old know what it is that is best for them less focus should be made of maintaining a high retention rate-the focus must be leadership ability, and academic/athletic aptitude. The Academy must filter out incapable leaders

[1323]  -use of affirmative action

[1324]  I am concerned about the elimination of the regular army commission as well as the lengthening of the obligation at graduation.

[1325]  I cannot say that it is a "policy," but I am concerned that USMA seems more and more "academic" and less and less "military."

[1326]  I am concerned that not all graduates are going on active duty after graduation. I understand that this is a reflection of the down-sizing of the military but, maybe the Corps should be down sized also. Cut the Corp back to two regiments but put everyone on active duty at least for a few years.

[1327]  I did't know he was changing the mission statement. That concerns me.

[1328]  The Army's policy of letting graduates leave active service prior to fulfillment of the inital obligation is unwise--how do you justify the expense/mission of the academy if your (Army's)actions deny the purpose?

[1329]  As an academic instructor at USMA, and graduate, I have noticed a definite "shift" from academic concerns during the academic year, to more military concerns. The academic program is good, and has been validated by several accredidation programs, but cadets are more concerned with taking the "easier" academic way out, and not with getting a quality education that will help them as the future leaders of the Army, but also as future leaders of the nation.

[1330]  From a recent article in Assembly, it sure appears that things have gotten soft. Where's the Beast in Beast Barracks?

[1331]  Moves to eliminate the academies in the Congress

[1332]  What I'd call "pandering" to the current political administration; witness the Assembly Magazine cover photo of Jack Vessey accepting the Thayer Award-- was it simply impossible to photograph him without Sara Lister in the picture? The selection of Thayer awardees troubles me. They positively absolutely do not reflect the views of the entire AOG-- so who's political influence is being brought to bear here? Or, more pandering? Perhaps it's all about West Point trying to mirror society-- wrong-wrong-wrong! Reading about the "new" New Cadet Barracks was indeed troubling, to me and virtually everyone I talked to. If intent here is to cozy up to the critics of the West Point experience and "political correctness", the academy is surely sending a signal that it's doing its best...

[1333]  Fund raising and athletic facitlity support

[1334]  Loss of focus on service as officer (Mission Statement) Replacement of 4th Class System

[1335]  1. The mission statement of USMA clearly is not sufficiently focused on a lifetime career in the United States Army. 2. The elimination of the Regular Commission for USMA (and ROTC DMG) cadets is an insult to the Army at large and will undermine both recruitment and performance in the future.

[1336]  While not totally enchanted by all I see at WP, I also feel it's none of my business. I would no more tell the Supe how to run WP than I would tell my kids how to raise my grandkids. I trust both the Supe and my kids to do the right thing.

[1337]  1. Too much emphasis on "big time" sports. I fear this will get worse as we enter Conference USA. 2. Too much emphasis on money. 3. Decreased quality of academics.

[1338]  Over time, the bonds between classmates has been diminished. By this, I mean there are a significant number of recent graduates (YG90+) who feel their time here was a poor experience. There is no desire to maintain relations with any other than a very small group of personally known cadets. There is no sense of "classmate" with those they did not personally know as cadets.

[1339]  Ineffective Cadet Counseling Services

[1340]  I have no major areas of concern because I am not well enough informed. That is quite different from say that I am "happy."

[1341]  No. The dynamics of this institution are such that unless I am aware of all dynamics I can not give an educated response. There is too much rumor and hear say that causes static on what is really going on. I am sure the Supe has the academy's best interest in mind.

[1342]  I think the policies currently being persued at West Point have watered down the mission of West Point. Namely to produce Officers for a full career in the Armed Forces, not as a means to other careers in civil life. A graduate should at least look forward to a lifetime career upon graduation. I don't think this is happining today.

[1343]  Too much focus on academics. This path will ultimately lead to the abolotioment of USMA since its crtics will, and rightfully so, argue that the same can be accomplished at a regualr college.

[1344]  1. concerned about the changes in cadet punishment. 2. concerned about the drastic changes in the development of discipline (especially in the 4th class). 3. concerned about the optional athletic event attendance. 4. concerned about Department Head selections 5. concerned about Cadet Basic Training changes

[1345]  Return RA commissioning upon graduation.

[1346]  It is trying to become an ROTC program!

[1347]  The "Corps Has." So what?

[1348]  leadership programs at USMA not focused on real leadership issues - multiculturalism, role of women, ethical practices. need training focus on business and financial issues - leaders can not lead without knowing bottom lines in cost, safety, results attained, cost ratios, etc.

[1349]  Disagree with other than Active duty commissioning.

[1350]  With budget tightening and reduction of Armed Forces, can the Academies survive or will the US go to some version of the British systems like Sandhurst?

[1351]  unable to determine if the Corp is still dropping standards as the Army has done for Women. Women have their own and superior strengths which should not be equated by dropping standards for all. Suspect there is a bit of "the Corp has" but stories from grads indicates that that is not all B.S.

[1352]  In this day of continued budget crunching, WP needs to be prepared to explain the "value" of the military academy versus ROTC, etc. The costs are not comparable...and the "return on investment" has not been adequately captured.

[1353]  One of my primary points of contention with USMA is the perceived failure to enforce the service obligation for graduates. Nothing about WP makes me madder than seeing a graduate get out in three years. I realize this is out of the hands of the USMA leadership, and is a factor created by the needs of the Army, but these individuals should be held accountable for their debts. If they get out early, then they should pay for their unserved time; otherwise, USMA becomes very cost ineffective and other commissioning sources are a better alternative.

[1354]  Relevant curriculum Always too heavy in math and engineering Would like to see more of a shift to military history, social sciences and languages

[1355]  Although I'm not very familiar with the issue, I'm concerned about the increasing representation of civilians within the USMA Faculty.

[1356]  Not concerned, but pleased. The recent major article in the New York Times magazine section should be reprinted for a larger audience. Extremely well done.

[1357]  - the fact that USMA grads do not get RA commissions any more is a disturbing development. Although that decision was taken by Congress, it opens the door for undermining the very purpose of having service academies. The Supe should work hard to ensure that USMA stays a vital source of army and civilian leaders for the country.

[1358]  I am concerned the air of "political correctness" is getting in the way of the mission of the Academy.

[1359]  Totally disagree with the Reserve Officer commission. I feel that the administration and AOG did not work hard enough to maintain RA status for USMA grads.

[1360]  I'm mildly concerned that graduating Cadets have been not been stressed to the point that they understand the physical and mental challenges of providing leadership in very demanding circumstances.

[1361]  Unsure at this time. Have some concerns about freedoms (Highland Falls priveleges, etc.) enjoyed by cadets. Don't want USMA changed into another A&M wherein the military aspects are a sidelight.

[1362]  1. I support efforts to reduce drinking by members of the Corps -- particularly in and around West Point. More should be done but in a way that it is supported by the Corps of Cadets. I sense alcohol abuse is a major issue.

[1363]  I'm not familiar enough with policies and issues to answer this question.

[1364]  I have serious concern that the Academy is trying to be all things for all missions. Lat's get the focus back on the fundamental principles that have made West Point what it is. Not a university, not a Peace Corps training school; a place that turns out military leaders.

[1365]  Generally happy with the direction of USMA, but I feel the AOG must be even more vigilant in its protection of our institution and yet more informative about the threats to its continued existence (i.e. tuition bills in Congress, making one Academy for all services, declining appropriations, etc.), as well as telling grads what they can do to help.

[1366]  I can't believe they did away with walking the area. I heard that it wastes time. As a cadet I thought that was exactly the reason for walking the area. Wasting time was a punishment!

[1367]  Gradual elimination of 4th class system!

[1368]  Erosion of the mission to provide the Army with combat leaders.

[1369]  As I have watched the evolution of West Point , there has been a shift from "USMa" to USmA." The former is the historical basis for the establishment and existance of the institutuion. Return the "Military" to USMA and let America know about this shift in emphasis.

[1370]  Loss of focus on training combat leaders

[1371]  See comments above. The academy and the Superintendent need to face the fact that graduates are either going to make a career in the Army or they are not. USMA is good at supporting grads who are Army officers. USMA is miserable, laughable at supporting graduates who are not (and there are more of them than Army officers). The academy could probably meet its financial goals and wildly exceed them if it stopped ignoring and bastardizing civilian graduates.

[1372]  Not informed of current direction.

[1373]  Movement away from a stronger engineering curriculum (that occurred several years ago).

[1374]  With the downsizing of the US Army, I believe West Point needs to re-examine the Regular Army only mentality. Although a lot of this is dictated by Congress, an examination of the 1800's should be undertaken. Perhaps some of the graduating classes should go into the reserve components after an intial tour.

[1375]  I am concerned that we are trying to "be better than every other university at what they are doing" rather than "being better than every other university by what WE are doing". Let's not try to be like them; let's just work on being the premier MILITARY leadership institution. Sometimes I think that we've lost the focus on that by trying to be everything to everyone and by producing "model citizens" rather than military leaders honed to a razor's edge.

[1376]  Too complicated a question to answer in this survey

[1377]  1. Continuing "civilianization" of the institution. 2. Perceived lessening of discipline in the efforts toward liberalization. 3. Stronger efforts in the public and government forums to promote the academy and its ideals/mission/importance/record of service.

[1378]  Lack of RA Commissions

[1379]  While academics are important to USMA graduates, I still believe that the primary purpose of USMA is to produce professional officers oriented on a full career. The emphasis during the four years should be on that goal at least equally with obtaining a degree. Sometimes, it seems that service to our country is deemphasized in favor of a more "academic" environment. USMA graduates are more known for their leadership and professionalism than they are for their education and scholarship.

[1380]  I am very concerned about the infrastructure of USMA and funding to maintain and improve the infrastructure.

[1381]  Caving in to pressures for non-traditional funding.

[1382]  I question the caliber of the cadre in the Tactical Department. My impression is that high-caliber officers avoid this assignment as undesirable. Cadets do not get the benefit of the tutaledge of the Army's best. I am also disturbed by the reduction in the the role of the Corps in the honor system. It appears to me that the officers at the Academy rather than the cadets, run the honor system. I want higher cadet involvement and I would rather see the officers at the Academy working to promote cadet devotion to the ideals of the honor system.

[1383]  I perceive a lack of emphasis on military commitment in recruiting, and fear this is part of the reason retention of graduates on active duty is a problem. Although I resigned after just 4 years on active duty, I entered USMA (and graduated) with an open mind toward serving longer. My experience, however, has been that many graduates do not do this. And now that I assist with recruiting, I see that many applicants do not appreciate the devotion to MILITARY duty that is required. Every graduate won't spend 20 years in uniform, but people shouldn't be looking forward to resignation before they even complete plebe year. This should be addressed.

[1384]  1. Focus on Military career. 2. Academic curriculum that doesn't undermine professional development.

[1385]  There are many graduates who have extremely racist views. The leaders that USMA puts out should be setting the example in racial harmony in this nation. It is my opinion that this is not happening as well as it could/should. The Academy might not be able to "fix" this problem, but it would be worth a try.

[1386]  On several visits to USMA in the past two years I have observed what I consider to be lower standards in evidence conserning cadet dress in public. The most glaring, in my opinion, occurred at last year's Yale game. It does not appear to me to be necessary for cadets to lounge in gym clothing, vicinity of the barracks on Thayer Road, on a football weekend with many visitors about. The argument for West Point, is among other things, its unique ability to to instill a special sense of mission and purpose. It is a 24 hr a day committment. Society does not place as high a value on this committment. These young future officers need to internalize early what that committment means. While a small thing, this behavior seems to be more in keeping with the scene in front of a fraternity house than what one would expect at the United States Military Academy. I think we need to guard against the possibility that the cadets perceive that being an officer is a 9-5, 5-day a week job. I hope this was an isolated case.

[1387]  USMA has lost its focus as a "military" academy.

[1388]  Think too much "touchy/feely" psychology has replaced leadership training. The two are not the same. When you tell a soldier to do a mission where he may be killed, it normally has to be top down, not "touchy/feely".

[1389]  West Point like the rest of America is so concerned about being politically correct that I think we have lost focus of the "harder right". I sat next to a current company commander departing for Christmas break and we chatted for 3 hours. He told me that in his opinion West Point is too easy. The leadership appears to be overly concerned about PC eventhough the cadets would rather have the experience be more demanding. He confided that the "Consideration of Others" was a joke among the cadets. This cadet was not a rebel but rather in a Firstie leadership (Captain) position. If the cadets feel like this then the academy leadership is missing something.

[1390]  I am a little concerned with the great emphasis being put on fund raising for athletic facilities that seems to be overshadowing all other potential areas of concern such as ensuring academics and PT programs support the development of Army officers, training on the importance of ethical behavior as Army officers, and ensuring racial and gender representation and equal treatment.

[1391]  I'm concerned about the continued move to make USMA more like other schools. The discipline instilled by the work/study environment and recreational restrictions is what helped graduates develop the sense of self-reliance and drive that set them apart. I think cadets are losing that distinctiveness.

[1392]  As I finished my MSME at Georgia Tech and as I have worked on my PhD at the University of Florida, I have had the opportunity to winess first-hand excellent instuction in Math/Sciences and two completely different techniques/environments/ideologies for imparting knowledge to engineering students. Both of these experiences have made my academic experience at West Point look weak at best. Consequently, my concern for USMA is the caliber of education offered to cadets and the realistic opportunity the institution provides cadets to learn things of an academic nature. Even keeping in mind that USMA's main purpose is to create officers, I still believe there is room for improvement in the area of academics and that more emphasis should be placed there.

[1393]  Quit graduating inferior officers. When we have female officers crying foul in order to breast feed, there is something inherently wrong with the system that has evolved. When officers are being let out before there commitments are complete, I can't blame the taxpayers for wanting to shut the place down.

[1394]  Become TOO easy see recent letter in Assembly

[1395]  LOSS OF FOCUS ON THE ARMY, CIVILIANIZATION OF WEST POINT.

[1396]  * Need to foster/maintain warrior spirit * Less concern with political correctness

[1397]  The move to make USMA just another good University rather than a Military Academy whose primary goal is to train individuals to be committed officers in the Army- Let's not forget this goal(while still providing a quality college education). Looking at the branch selections in the last Assembly disturbs me as I feel all graduates should go into a combat arms or combat support arms initially and then can select other branches after two or three years.

[1398]  As I commented earlier, under AOG, attempt to return USMA to an all-male institution and establish a separate school for Women who would NOT (repeat "NOT") be commissioned into any combat arm.

[1399]  De-emphasis of academics / declining academic standards

[1400]  Proper levels of funding for USMA to maintain the quality education and leadership preparation

[1401]  I have some concerns that too much emphasis is being placed on academics to the detriment of other areas. Being an Army officer is more than being a smart guy. Being an educted person is important but being well round is more important.

[1402]  1. Concerned about the requirement to await until attaining the grade of 03 before being elegible for Regular Army. 2Also concerned that 4th classmen have had their Plebe year shortened 3. Reports that the Honor System is being "diluted"

[1403]  Although it it a congressional issue more than an USMA/AOG issue, I am concerned that the burden for financing is/has shifted from the government to the graduates for many of the projects which help USMA maintain its position in terms of facilities, academic programs and athletic programs.

[1404]  It appears to me that the fourth class system is dead. This is awful!

[1405]  - Regular Army Commissions no longer being offered - Political Correctness seems to be creeping in at the Academy, (Ex. see Amy Efaw's Article in Assembly; I do not see these changes as for the better)

[1406]  West Point should be providing the Army with Regular Army Combat Arms Officers. I don't understand why anyone would go to West Point if there is no distinction between a ROTC graduate and a West Point graduate.

[1407]  I am concerned about the funding for USMA and the future of USMA given the current military cutbacks and the political situation in the US.

[1408]  Only as it concerns the continued existance of the USMA

[1409]  Increasing West Point's and the AOGs commitment to supporting the Army - neither organization appears to consider the needs of the Army as its primary consideration

[1410]  West Point has succumbed too far to the political correctness syndrome.

[1411]  Not enough info to answer this. Out of touch with what particular direction West Point is currently moving in.

[1412]  I'm very concerned about recent studies showing military personnel becoming more allied with politically conservative causes. The military, at least when I was a cadet, was supposed to be an apolitical organization. Anything the academy might be doing to change that would be of concern to me.

[1413]  While not advocating return to the scream and shout methods of the past, I have no good feeling that the stress level is high enough to weed out the folks that will not perform when the stress is leading troops in combat.

[1414]  Many concerns that WP is not preparing graduates to serve the country into the next century in the existing social and professional environment.

[1415]  I am very concerned that USMA may be losing what I would regard as its essential focus: providing trained, dedicated young officers who are at the cutting edge of the Army in terms of professionalism and commitment to a military career, in short, the "true believers" who can provide inspired leadership at every level of the Army.

[1416]  Relaxing of 4th class system

[1417]  There seems to be too much of an emphasis on academics and preparation for graduate school in the future. Education is important, but the focus of the Academy is on developing leaders of character for the Nation, not philosophers or academically astute sophists...have people go to Harvard or Yale if they want that.

[1418]  1. Am concerned that the academics are tending toward "academics for academics sake" and not to support the military professional development. 2. I think that all graduates of USMA shold be regular officers to show the professionalism of USMA.

[1419]  I am concerned about the perceived lack of importance of USMA in the US Army commissioning process. More and more, USMA is compared with ROTC and the programs are portrayed as equivalent. If USMA does not focus on a unique and specific mission such as training US Army officers for land warfare, then I believe support for the institution will diminish.

[1420]  Any drift away from production of combat leaders who are able to handle stress is bad. If someone can't handle the stress of being treated unreasonably for a few weeks after arriving at the Academy, then we probably don't need him. There has to be some institutional system for determining who really wants to be an officer and who is tepid about it--and get rid of those who are tepid. While I was a cadet, the Supe (LTG Palmer) became very proud of the high percentage of entrants who graduated. I believe that the exact reverse is something to be proud of. The Commandant and the Dean (who have four years to watch a person) should not abdicate the power to decide who is worthy of leading American soldiers to the director of admissions. No matter how well devised the admissions process is, it is a joke compared to the Academy's program of instruction.

[1421]  I like the direction the Superintendent indicated he wanted to head when he presented the reassessment of the mission statement.

[1422]  getting away from recruiting "whole-man" concept, and putting too much emphasis on stellar academic/computer achievements

[1423]  I was not impressed with the way that USMA seemed, per the Wall Street Journal article, dealt with the Tac who was fired last year.

[1424]  1. I have been and always will be highly opposed to woman at the Academies, but that is a moot issue and nothing can be done about it. I believe it was undermined the basic fiber of the pupose of West Point, Anapolis and the Air Force Academy.

[1425]  Do not Know

[1426]  Size of the Corps. Honor Code seems to have changed considerably in practice. Maintenance of the physical plant seems to be lagging.

[1427]  I'm concerned that the US Government is not financially supporting one of its most sacred institutions. There seems to be a movement to having the AOG/grads take responsibility for things that are rightly the responsibility of the government.

[1428]  1. Lack of focus on the combat arms. Too many graduates look at the army as a job and are not prepared to give their lives for their country. 2. Academic standards are falling. Grade inflation is a problem. 3. Rotating faculty assignment at USMA is no longer a good job for one's career. 4. Cadets come to USMA wanting to be tested. They want hard training. It doesn't have to come from the 4th class system, but cadets need to have a genuine sense of accomplishment when they graduate. 5. I don't know how to solve these issues but it is clear to me that we cannot do everything that we would like to do and that as a result we are not accomplishing some of our core tasks. I am not convinced that the answer is to become more similar to other colleges. It may be that we need to strike off on our own in a more unique direction.

[1429]  Aware of process in #27, but very much against signing up USMA to ensure our graduates serve a specified length of time in a green suit. We only have control over their openness toward that option at the time they graduate. The experience in their first unit has a greater impact on their career length. Are we willing to have someone judge our performance as a pre-commissioning source based on something (career length) which is impacted by a multitude of post-commissioning experiences?

[1430]  Area tours are a tradition. Traditions bond graduates from different classes. It is dangerous to toy with traditions that really are not that important to change. "Adjusting" the 4th class system was necessary to steer graduates to reflect changes in modern society. This I understand. However, area tours just don't matter.

[1431]  Elimination of rifle and pistol teams as varsioty sports, while golf and tennis teams were kept

[1432]  Subordination of any capability to produce leaders for combat positions in the Army.

[1433]  I am not current on the issues facing WP.

[1434]  The letters on page 2 of the Jan/Feb Assembly express my feelings better than I can. Where's the backbone at the top?

[1435]  service should be voluntary after the training

[1436]  I precieve that the Academy failure to place trust and confidence in cadets because they are afraid of any bad press that may result from potential honor cases. In effect, the Academy is trying to protect cadets from themselves. An example of this is the so called free academic collaboration policy. Instead of telling cadets not to discuss the content of examinations with other students, the Academy encourages them to divulge the contents. This prevents the cadets from potential honor violations by leagalizing the disclosure of test data. It requires the instructors to write different examinations for every hour that the examination is administered. When the cadets graduate we can trust them with not discussing National secrets, but prior to graduation we can not trust them not to discuss examination content. I see a problem with this process. I see another problem with the elimination of area tours. Instead of requiring cadets to perform a military activity (marching) for punishment, they are required to perform menial labor. West Point is a military academy. I think the punishment should be a military punishment.

[1437]  over-relaxation of stress in environement reduction of character development becoming too much like a "normal university"

[1438]  I am not familiar with any new policies or a new direction for West Point. As a graduate, I would be interested in knowing any changes, major or otherwise.

[1439]  1. Need to continue the emphasis on the mission being to develop career military officers. 2. Do not go too far in having tenured civilian academic instructors.

[1440]  My main concern is the outside pressures (e.g, Congress, financial pressures) which may cause unneeded or unwanted changes to USMA

[1441]  I think that old grads only hear about the horror stories. I am still trying to adjust from seeing the sign for the "Cadet Beauty Salon" when I was up there for our last reunion. I am not familiar enough with the direction in which West Point is heading to make specific comments. From what I've read and from limited contact with USMA, I am concerned about the loss of the warrior mentality at West Point. This, however, is a malaise that affects the entire Army.

[1442]  I continue to have concerns over the number of attempts to have a west point become just another 2LT factory. No RA status, No 5 year active commitment, reserve officers, Etc..

[1443]  Recognition of Gay and Lesbian Graduates and Cadets other than denying their existence.

[1444]  WP continues to have "incidents" which are embarrasing to the school and its graduates. One recent example was the "pinning" ceremony. These things have been happening from time to time, but some are more egregious than others. Mistakes should be tolerated, but i was personally embarrassed by the "pinning" since such a ceremony in the Marines received national notariety not so long ago. Are these things being addressed?

[1445]  1.Graduates should get RA commission.2.Easing of cadet living should be stopped.

[1446]  I think the Supe is wrong not to fight the reserve commission law. It is the beginning of the end of the USMA.

[1447]  I do not know any specific issues, policies or direction. I probably would if I chose to subscribe to Assembly.

[1448]  The minimal emphasis on the military aspects of USMA will ensure that I never send money to the AOG.

[1449]  USMA is an academy designed to produce Regular Army officers. It seems that this has been forgotten by those who feel that the purpose of West Point is to produce "leaders" for the nation. Because of this "leaders" mentality, it was proposed that USMA graduates should compete for RA commissions with ROTC officers. Refocus on the basics - let's train officers to lead soldiers in war - everything else is trivial.

[1450]  How do we maintain the status as a leading school of higher learning and develop warriors for the 21st century? How do we maintain USMA's strict moral standards with society's decay?

[1451]  Continued work by the senior leadership OF THE ARMY is needed to continue redefining the roles of West Point through the 21st Century, and to continue to attract public understanding of and support for those roles.

[1452]  After sitting through a week of MALO training in 1996, I am very concerned that the Supe's office is to focused on limiting attrition rates than graduating top quality officers.

[1453]  1. continue to make case for relevance of service academies as unique and elite training for Regular Army officers to provide structure for potential expansion of troops in time of conflict. 2. gender-equity pressure from social activists not resisted by highest officers who know what will not work in real warfare (e.g., different physical fitness/exertion standards).

[1454]  We should not have lost the RA commission. We should keep getting it back high on our "Washington Agenda" but I agree with most that now is not the right time.

[1455]  Don't mess with the purpose or mission - they're fine!

[1456]  --Majors program is not in the best interests of the Army....need a heavy engineering and science oriented core curriculum. --selfless and values are an area of concern to me based on my experience with young LTs

[1457]  I'm concerned that the Academy is straying away from the training and discipline instilled by such leaders as COL Tex Turner and COL Hallums......we seem to produce softer, less disciplined leaders. LTs which haven't internalized the simple standards of AR 670-1 or FM 22-5, etc.

[1458]  See item #29.

[1459]  Have not followed closely enought to form an opinion.

[1460]  See my comments above.

[1461]  ***This comment is less about issues and policies, and more about West Point's product*** I am concerned with the "final product" (2LT) that West Point produces. I have not been favorably impressed with what I have seen, as of late. Perhaps they are the products of the "What has the Army done for me lately?" environment. I don't know...selfless service to Country is a rare quality these days.

[1462]  Beware of the temptation of passing (short term) "political correctness".

[1463]  Bad question -- I understand why WP is headed in the direction it is: certainly wouldn't say I am happy with it.

[1464]  Would like to see: --Emphasis on spirtual dimension of character development --Emphasis on politeness and gentlemanly or woman behavoir put back in. Cadets do not have couth these days --Put toughness back into plebe year (personal observation of current firstie that I have observed all four years is that he never obtained the slightest degree of humility---never had the "cockiness" knocked out of him---still feels and acts very self-centered---not concerned with others, and was able to get away with far too much) --KEEP HONOR SYSTEM STRONG --KEEP IT FOR COMBAT ARMS ONLY

[1465]  pressures to seek private funds to compensate for budget shortfalls a mission statement that emphasizes service to the nation as Army officers

[1466]  I am aware of only a small piece of the picture (dealing with the corps squad status of the rifle/pistol/skeet teams) and feel the ship is finally heading in the right direction. In other matters, I do not have enough information to judge.

[1467]  "Win at any cost" football Too many letters asking for money Flexible morality on honor/misconbduct cases

[1468]  The regular Army appointment system.

[1469]  Not familiar enough to have an opinion

[1470]  Declining performance in Major Sports. Must retain the Honor system in spite of outside pressures.

[1471]  I was very glad to hear the Supe's ideas and concept of the future of USMA. My greatest concern is making strong leaders. My experience was mixed. I felt when I graduated, it was 50-50 that a USMA grad would be a better leader than and ROTC/OCS product. We must do everything possible to increase the probability of producing leaders, not troubled LTs.

[1472]  Do not feel that USMA should depend upon private fund raising. Public monies, whether appropriated or non-appropriated, should be used to fund USMA. USMA is unlike most civilian institutions in that it lacks a large alumni force that is not financially well-off.

[1473]  I understand cadets are not required to submit an acknowledgement statement with their work any more. If this is true then the reasoning for this change would be of interest to me. I also understand the cadets submit much less homework for grades than they did in the past. Again, the reasoning behind this change would be of interest. In a nutshell I am concerned about academic rigor and honor.

[1474]  1. A few years ago we were told by the Superindendent that he thought West Point had no responsiblity to past graduates. I think that we should relook this issue and see what if any support could be given to help cement bonds between graduates and West Point. 2. I think the current policy of all 2LT being equal and having to earn RA commisions as officers is the correct one. If the promotion system is fair and just the creme will always rise to the top.

[1475]  Not familiar enough with any new directions that USMA is heading.

[1476]  As noted above, I am concerned about the survival of our military academies as we enter the 21st Century. I am not aware of what we are doing to ensure survival.

[1477]  My concern is that the Military Academy seems to be fixed in its purpose of being "only" a military institution. In fact, graduates perform a wide range of national service beyond the Army. Might it be appropriate (given the current and future world situation)and politically wise to expand the charter of the service academies? I don't have a strong opinion on either side of this issue but I believe that it is one worth discussion and I am greatly disturbed at the trend to weakening our great institution. Clearly, the current posture of of "military-only" service academies is not selling on Capitol Hill as witnessed by a string of Congressional funding and policy decisions.

[1478]  It appears that USMA is interested in graduating civilian students who might join the military. Some might even make it a career. To me the goal of USMA is to graduate military officers who are desirous of making the military a career, rather that having a scholarship as a jumping off to a civilian career.

[1479]  My impression is that political correctness has run amuck at West Point.

[1480]  The current policy of having USMA graduates commissioned in the Reserves rather than the Regular Army. I also thought the Supe's comments on this subject in the last Assembly were weak- i.e. not going to push the issue!!

[1481]  I am always concerned about too much "tinkering" with a proven system, but have been pretty busy in service and in raising a family.

[1482]  I am concerned about recent Army directed personnel/faculty reductions and the impact that will have on the Academy and its education mission. Additional area is infrastructure maintenance.

[1483]  Increase in privatization of faculty and movement away from a generalist, well rounded view to a more conventional college curriculm. Movement away from West Point holding a distinguish or superior reputation as a source of commissioning.

[1484]  - "Kinder, Gentler USMA" Understanding the political moves for enacting some reforms at USMA concerning plebe year, but I think the discipline has slipped from a priority. Discipline would often distinguish the "West Pointer" from the field. Now, as a Grad, I have a difficult time distiguishing graduates from non-grads at the LT level.

[1485]  I am concerned that there is a growing expectation that private funds (fund raising) will cover expenses previously covered in part or fully by federal funding.

[1486]  A general loss of purpose is my sensing.

[1487]  I disagree with his combined mission statement. 1 see no need to change the current statement, and 2. it ignores the fact than many grads serve our country in other ways beside the Army. some serve in the other Services, and others devote a lifetime to federal civil service - some of which are as hazardous to their well-being as serving in the Army.

[1488]  Young people are much more highly educated than my generation was, but I don't feel that they are as committed to the honor system or service to country after graduation, as grads of my era were.2.I sense that the "warrior" attitude is much stronger than heretofore, but I sense that it is not limited to the battlefield.

[1489]  1. Regular Army commission for graduates 2. 5-6 year Active Duty service obligation

[1490]  My concern is only about Congressional support. I do not want to see it get worse. The Academy leaders are doing the best job possible with the means available.

[1491]  erosion of tradition & identity

[1492]  Do not like the gutting of the plebe system, the elimination of area tours, or elimination of mandatory dinner. Other changes have bothered me as well - many of them - but these are the ones that pop into mind readily.

[1493]  The letter from the '89 grad in the last Assembly was an excellent letter summarizing my own concerns. I have many classmates currently serving as Ps at USMA. Most of their comments are positive. They do point out areas that are more than just "the Corps has" candidates. My specific concerns are that West Point is NOT a 4 year college! I went to one for a year and, thanks to the AOG, I was given a scholarship to re-apply and to attend USMA! I was proud of the difference. All I knew as a cadet was that I didn't want the academy life to get any harder, but that I would be personally embarressed if it got easier. If the ties to traditions (which almost always never seem to make "sense" or have immediate "purpose", or have to) are broken then the ties to the remainder of the Long Gray Line are broken. You become the "Big Gray Place". The basis of the strongest bonds to classmates and tradition are the 4th Class System. (Yes, I know the politically correct name for it is something different!). It is the "Boot Camp" that each graduate has the right to either brag about surviving or talk about in the same context as a college with uniforms and funny rules. We are so concerned about things like our athletic facility structure that we forget about the brick and mortar of the other "foundation": the development of character and courage that occurs during the plebe year. The graduates that make it through a difficult and emotionally challenging plebe year will be a far better group than the group that is given an easier road (to enhance our dollar cost per graduate statistics through better retention rates).

[1494]  One of my classmates pointed out that the new mission statement, with it's 'career in the Army' portion, is an easy one to fall short on. His concern is that Congress may hold us to the mission, and if we fail to attain it, they would then have cause to shut us down.

[1495]  In the final analysis, the reason for the existence of all the service academies must be to insure that regardless of the vagaries of public opinion, the armed services receives its representative share of the best and brightest young graduates in America to insure that our young men and women are properly led and our nation defended. This purpose cannot be met by any other source to include ROTC whose assession reflects public sentiment and the economic alternatives. This argues for the educational sophistication that has developed at the Academy and the incresing complexity of the Army has not diminished this requirement. At the same time the tendency to replace "cadet" traditions with purely "professional requirements needs to be carefully balanced with the need to build identity and allegience. Attention should be paid to theories of student development. Do not try to make the student somthing she or he is not. There is nothing wrong with being a cadet before becoming a soldier.

[1496]  I would like to see the Rifle and Pistol Teams reinstated as a Corps Squad sports. Hard to believe that USMA can't afford to support these teams and that many other universities can. Participation in these sports clearly benefits 2LT's and the soldiers they lead.

[1497]  No issues, I was very pleased to send my comments directly to the Superintendent. Please note that I received a very quick response.

[1498]  Congressional funding activities (or lack thereof). Talk of eliminating/consolidating the academies. Condition of West Point facilities.

[1499]  With the cutbacks in defense. I am concerned that USMA will fall behind in academics and althelitics. Is there contact with the other Academies in how they are handling the cutbacks and policy changes in the Armed Forces.

[1500]  Reductions in the level of Federal funding and the corresponding larger burden of funding from from alumni and others.

[1501]  I think USMA is on a steady course. Just continue to uphold the core values of Duty, Honor, Country

[1502]  I am disturbed that graduates no longer receive regular army commissions upon graduation

[1503]  The lost of tradition. I agree that change is good, however, I believe that some traditions need to be kept.

[1504]  USMA is falling into a trap by asking its graduates to fund activities that should be funded by appropriations. I know that the Supe claims that this is not so. For instance, the funding of academic chairs should be from the government. The more the graduates fund, the less Congress will appropriate, and USMA will gain nothing.

[1505]  I'm never quite sure about this. Often, I have the impession that we do not have enough stability in leadership at the Academy. I get the impression sometimes that there is too much change occuring when the superintendent changes. Each Supt seems to be bringing his own agenda with him or an agenda created by the Chief of Staff. We need Supt like Gen Goodpaster who made changes but who had the credibility to do so in a calm, reasoned way. What we do not need is wild, frivolous changes which run counter to the mission of the Academy.

[1506]  Not in touch enough to say yes or no

[1507]  Having a female in charge of the Office of Physical Education does not have the best interest of the Military Academy at heart. This is political correctness at its worst. No one will ever convince me that this female was best qualified for the position.

[1508]  I cannot say that I am aware of new directions enough to be able to say yes or no.

[1509]  Concerned about the quality of graduates. It seems like the emphasis is on the quantity USMA can graduate every year v. the quality of graduate.

[1510]  Reserve vs RA Commission Crumbling physical plant Poor athletic facilities Loss of Plebe Year

[1511]  I am concerned that the Academy has lost its focus on training leaders for Combat Arms. Current branch selection dilutes impact that graduates could make in the 'teeth' of the Army.

[1512]  I am bothered by civilianization process(and,I admit, by feminization--but I submit to the inevitable) My remarks above apply. Be careful that you don't promote West Point as a stepping stone to success in fields other than military. It happens--but don't promote it.

[1513]  Elimination of the Academies, specifically WP, from congressional funding and the consciousness of Americans as a society.

[1514]  ESTABLISH A WINNING ATHLETIC PROGRAM

[1515]  Favor: the punishment tours changes; return of the RA commission to those USMA designates as qualified; the Supe's mission statement azimuth Athletics and winning are fundamental; yet at the intercollegiate level, USMA must remain realistic that it is our character that counts in the end; I'm uncomfortable with USMA becoming an incubator for professional athletes and even ostentatious facilities.

[1516]  civilianization of the academy. It seems as the school has become more and more politically correct, it has become more like a civilian college. It appears that the mission of the academy has changed from putting out officers prepared for combat to putting out potential political canidates prepared for running for office.

[1517]  I would like to see greater separation of male and female cadets in barracks and during physical/military training (like Marine Corps).

[1518]  As a graduate of 18 years I am concerned with the great number of graduates leaving the service immediately after their commitment as well as the quality of junior company grade officer graduates. I have been unable to pin point the cause and know a number of changes have occurred, but it appears a different level of discipline and sense of dedication is being instilled and taken away by the graduating cadets into the Army.

[1519]  Concern about general trend away from military focus of the service academies and standards of conduct.

[1520]  not enough information on any changes

[1521]  I am concerned about the fact that graduates do not seem to be required to serve a full period of service. While I am very concious of the fact that all the services need to watch spending (attrition of personnel is a way of reducing costs) it disturbs me as a taxpayer to spend a great deal of money educating and training a cadet and potentially not seeing much of a return on the investment. If graduates are not required to serve their full committment, what distinction is there between Academy Graduates and ROTC graduates?

[1522]  Placing fund raising efforts in AOG is, I believe, inconsistent with the mission.

[1523]  The major concern I have is the emphasis on recruiting cadets. At the time I decided to go to the academy, most of the literature billed the academy as a first rate education with leadership training and a guarranteed job after graduation. What little I have seen since reflects the same idea. But as a nation and an Army institution we need to instill in the applicants that we want the very best young people our nation has to offer to do the toughest job our nation has to offer: leading the next generation of Americans in war if the nation so requires. The combination of drawdown/gulf war/and more drawdown took an disproportionally large toll on my classmates who were active duty. Unfortunately, a lot of emphasis is placed on success of great leaders, but maybe not enough on war Patton's struggles, or Grant's post Mexican War struggles, etcetera. As a repository of the Army's values, West Point should be leading the way in teaching to its new graduates what a lifetime of service to the nation is in this era when fewer and fewer have a common base to teach duty and honor and country from. (The cadets may still come with a sense of these ideas, but I can assure you their soldiers do not). Back to the main point, fewer total applicants with slightly lower qualifications on the average who are committed to the Army, I suggest, are better for the nation and the Army than better qualified individuals who jump ship at the opportunity of an "early out" or VSI when future advancement seems curtailed due to drawdowns.

[1524]  Focus of the Academy in the coming years (ie. revision of role in society)

[1525]  Over-emphasis on management/civilian skills. Lowering of physical fitness standards. Re-emphasize warriors.

[1526]  More emphasis on turning cadets into military leaders

[1527]  dual standards for men and women

[1528]  I believe we should do all we can to maintain our cherished traditions to include a complete plebe year. We must resist the tempation to join "outcome based education" and the remainder of society. Our school is different and I, for one, am proud of it.

[1529]  I have a concern, without basis in fact, that West Point is 1) too concerned with political correctness 2) is in danger of becoming just another "ROTC" college.

[1530]  I am continually concerned about the future of the Academy, its funding (ie. tax vs. private monies), and its role within the entire U.S. Army.

[1531]  Funding. Importance to Army.

[1532]  Concerned about losing the traditions of the past at the expense of trying to do what appears to be "modernizing". The entire country is in a moral decline and I hope that USMA nevre loses its focus.

[1533]  Fully support enlightened leadership displayed by classmate Howard Graves and SocSci Dept colleague Dan Christman. AOG has done outstanding job of sharing their goals & accomplishments through Assembly and Register. In my mind, that communications channel with grads has been the most important function of Association.

[1534]  Cadet Athletics Cadet Academic Programs Cadet Discipline development programs

[1535]  Again, we must be more vocal when the boneheads in congress, and the civilian leadership, tinker with USMA for political purposes.

[1536]  The Corps has.... Discontinuation of the 4th class system....

[1537]  I like the changes to the leadership system, but I am concerned that cadets may not be feeling as much pressure as was felt in the past. Cadets need to be stressed in all ways to see how they can react to pressure - I don't mean screaming upperclassmen. I do mean physical and mental stress.

[1538]  I have a dichotomy. I want USMA to maintain its unique position in US Universities, yet,I also want us to recruit the best qualified student athletes available. If football is our major market outlet for general mass visibility, then let's hire a first class coaching staff. We cannot afford to learn on the job- it hurts recruiting and image too much. I do not support any Congressional mandated consolidations for the Academies. Any soldier that has been in combat realizes that it is terrible and we should avoid it if possible, but the best defense is a strong offense-and there are still crazies out there- so be prepared. Enough of preaching to the choir.

[1539]  The Hallums affair and negative press received. The loss of Regular commissions upon graduation. The DOUBLE STANDARDS in Physical Training and Testing between male and female cadets. The lack of FINANCIAL analysis training in the core curriculum. Effective budgeting is essential to the success of today's Army.

[1540]  1) Discipline is lacking 2) Cadets do not put as much time into academics as they used to 3) too politicaly correct

[1541]  We need a course correction to deal with the changed reasons for the U.S. maintaining a strong military today. This must be dealt with at USMA, and within the entire military institution.

[1542]  Rather concerned about the "kinder, gentler approach" to cadet life and Army responsibilities. We need tough leaders who dont get squeamish when bullets fly. Forget politically correct and train officers to lead soldiers IN COMBAT. That is the purpose that USMA exists for.

[1543]  It is becoming too politically correct and has lost its "training leaders" focus to become an academic inistitution with an academic faculty that really doesn't care about soldiers.

[1544]  1. I've heard that there is a growing emphasis on an well-rounded, academic versus warfighter focus which seems improper for a "Military" academy. The mission is to train, first and foremost, military leaders, not academics, not political or business leaders--every other school in the nation churns those out in abundance. USMA doesn't need a majors program or a more civilianized academic environment,; these are DISTRACTORS and probably contribute to the massive migration out of the Army by our junior military leaders, especially West Pointers. Having heard this from many young Captains who elected to resign rather than go to their advanced courses it is very disheartening--they want to put their "degree" to work. Very illuminating.

[1545]  Retention on Active Duty of Female Graduates-strengthen their education on Responsible service during their obligated service

[1546]  General Christman appears to be doing a very creditable job in focusing on the future of West Point

[1547]  The changing of the mission statement from the original one without input from the graduates. It is more like an acedemic mission instead of the one that serves the purpose of making leaders!

[1548]  We must continue to be vigilant of those who see a diminished need for the "academies" and become especially vocal over long periods of relative peace.

[1549]  Lack of focus on warfighting and selfless service

[1550]  Continued trend of emphasizing "political correctness" at the expense of preparing cadets for the realities of combat. Watering down of the discipline within the Corps and distinction between classes. CLDS should be reexamined to insure the 4th Class gets the proper attention from the Upper Class Leadership and the Tactical Officers.

[1551]  Very concerned that USMA grads are not given a Regular Commission upon graduation.

[1552]  Haven't followed where West Point is heading but whenever I talk to grads about it -- be it the warrior ethic, the honor code, whatever -- it always appears to be bad news.

[1553]  I believe the most pressing question concerning USMA concerns its future - if any. The academies continue to be in competition with other institutions and I wonder how effectively they compete as a source of officers for the armed forces. Specifically, is the cost of graduating and commissioning officers from the service acadmies justified? Is there a need for the number of graduates produced each year? Does the Congress - and the country - feel we are getting our money's worth? Is this an attractive career for young men and women today?

[1554]  active duty commitmernt too short

[1555]  There are many areas of change that cause me some concern. But frankly, since leaving the Academy at the end of my tour teaching there, I do not feel that I know enough about the daily operations and situations to make intelligent suggestions.

[1556]  More emphasis on dealing with the real world, both military and civilian.Career officers should not feel like "fish out of water" when they pursue a civilian occupation after a fine military career.

[1557]  Yes, I am concerned about the creeping civilianization of the Academy. It used to be that graduates would say the Corps has, and they would at least half kidding. In recent years, we have seen the elimination of pinging, the elimination of area tours, the virtual elimination of the Fourth Class System, making most dinners optional, and probably lots of other changes of which I am unaware. These are clearly major changes with which I believe the vast major of graduates would oppose. I believe they are indicative of a general softening of the West Point experiance, a change which I find very unfortunate.

[1558]  1) The Corps of Cadets should be smaller. 2) Find ways to increase discipline within the Corps. 3) Increase social skills training, basic etiquette, for example. Don't go overboard, but remember that a lot of families aren't passing this on to their children. 4) Every cadet should receive formal training on computers, especially word processing, databases, graphics and general use. Give the experienced cadets a chance to test out or pre-qualify.

[1559]  Apparent trend to make West Point like any other school is alarming. The difficulties I experienced as a plebe helped prepare me for the rigors I would face in the Army as well as gave me an appreciation for the difficulties soldiers face. Any school can deliver a rigorous academic schedule, but it is the environment that molds a West Point graduate.

[1560]  Concern over how the academy is approaching the needs of the Army in the 21st Century. It may have been communicated at some time, but I have not heard or read very much.

[1561]  The United States Military Academy should be concerned with preparing its graduates for military service in the Army. Any other goal (e.g. preparing graduates for generic 'service to the nation') should not be pursued.

[1562]  I am concerned of the effect of this Presidential Administration's 'social experimentation' in the military and its related political pressures on the Military Academy's future.

[1563]  Making the principles of the Honor Code more vague in terms of what is or is not a honor violations. The principles seemed very clear when I was a Cadet: I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those that do. However, today these principles have been obscured by legal definitions.

[1564]  1. No Regular Commissions 2. Becoming more like a civilian college 3. Not training combat leaders

[1565]  I feel country would be better served if the "lifetime" notion of service / duty to the country were stressed more. Not all can serve for 30 years, and still local communities could really benefit from the leadership experiences of those wiht just 20 years.... but USMA ought to not only focus on leadership for combat, but make folks aware of "consensus" and democratic grass roots processes.

[1566]  I have serious reservations about the manner in which leadership training has been altered since my graduation in 1989. I have always felt that the Military Academy has fallen short in communicating its reason for existence. It is not simply a premier leadership institution. Any major corporation could fund a leadership institute. West Point exists to develop leaders who can perform under the most austere and pressure filled environments imaginable - and unimaginable. No matter how inane the hazing was that I underwent as a plebe, I could always look back on those events and tell myself I put up with more stress for less reason than whatever it was I was facing. The entire sum of my experiences at West Point, under intense, immediate stress, served as my well spring of history that I could always go back to in order to tell myself "you've been through worse, you've handled more before." That pool of experience allowed me to handle a wingman's radio call for permission to fire in one ear and my commander's request for a situation update in my other ear during Desert Storm. It may sound off-the-wall, but as the day unfolded and the radio became more frantic, I remembered having my back against a Cow's closet door with three of his classmates in my face, each asking for some completely different, unrelated piece of 4th Class knowledge. Knowing I'd handled that before, when it meant nothing, allowed me to handle it in an M1A1 crusing the desert floor when it meant everything.

[1567]  See concern listed below.

[1568]  No Regular Army commissions on graduation Insufficient appropriated fund support Impression that U.S.M.A. is trying to be an "Ivy League" college instead of The Military Academy

[1569]  I know it sounds trivial, but I would like to see a return to a tougher 4th Class System -- not one which need be harsher or without purpose, but just more demanding, or at least a full year long. I see the results of "easier" or more stress-free Basic Training on todays recruits -- and believe me, as a battery commander no matter what ANYONE ELSE is saying, there are DEFINITE impacts -- and I do not want USMA graduates going the same route, which in some cases I have seen (may be due to many other things as well, but might not). I understand that it is a kinder, gentler Army, but it does not have to be less demanding.

[1570]  Deterioration of physical facilities is a serious problem which needs addressing at the Federal level - not with private funds. Mission statement needs to emphasize USMA's role in developing leaders for the ARMY and our country, especially in times of war.

[1571]  Two major things: My class, 90, had a high attrition rate from the early-out options. I think this was due to the example of the class of '87. After completing our plebe year the feedback from the "field" about our example-setters was that they were all getting out in 2-3 three years in service. I think a lot of my classmates were just punching there WP ticket anticipating not full filling their commitment. I see this lack of duty causing a dillution of the USMA mission statement. It has dropped the "as an officer in the United States Army". Granted a career in the Army may not be the best thing for everyone, but the cadets should aspire to give it a fair try. Second, I am not an authority on the academic perspective of leadership, but I will tell that we must constantly ensure that as we change/remove the fourth class system, the positive traditions and legacies of that which makes West Point the premier institution that it is are not lost. Leaders of character must have situations that build characters even though these situations may seem unorthodox or "politically incorrect".

[1572]  Yes, as heard during post-A/N game discussions this past Dec: I find it foolish and ridiculous (if true)that Cadets are now being required to refer to each other by their rank as in SGT Jones or CPL Brown or LT or CPT Johnson. What can realistically be gained by a policy like this. These years, these times are when relationships are formed (can be formed) that may be lasting -- and they are not always within your own class. Cadets understand that someone in a position of responsibility is expected to exercise that responsibility and they generally handle the relationship appropriately. Being required to address each other by rank does not increase the authority of anyone but rather serves the ego of someone or committee who felt they had the next really great idea for change to be imposed. This one (if true) is as bad as the attempt to prepare firsties for Officership by moving them out of their Company areas just when they finally mature enough to be role models for the plebes and, perhaps, third classmen. In fact, it may be worse. Truly, what can it possibly be teaching other than how to establish really phony relationships as 18, 19, 20, etc. year olds.

[1573]  My class (1951) is currently working on this subject and I will concur with it's proposals, when they are complete.

[1574]  USMA and the AOG have not embraced the "One Army" concept. One glaring example, in this survey, question number 5 has no place for "civil life, active reserve service".

[1575]  I certainly wish that USMA would support nondiscrimination processes, such as in Proposition 209. Select the best candidates, and then train them to be the best and caring leaders for both military and civilian careers.

[1576]  I would consider the graduates who influence the mission statement. They should come from a variety of backgrounds - active duty, those who left the army early, retirees, both genders, minorities.

[1577]  I have heard rumors of policies etc that I have some concern about. I do not know if they are valid concerns or not: Punishment tours Female Haircut/style policy

[1578]  The rate of change of the cadet experience from the traditional four class system to a system which more closely parallels the Army in the field. I don't disagree with the need for this transition, but suggest the changes should come more slowly.

[1579]  - increase in civilian faculty/military faculty ratio - apparent reduced emphasis on producing Army/ military/combat leaders

[1580]  I am not informed of these directional changes

[1581]  Missing from the entire discussion about mission, purpose, and goals is a vision for the academy, which is quite different from a mission or purpose.

[1582]  See comments about class officers.

[1583]  Let's not lose the warrior spirit. Place greater emphasis on graduates serving a full career in military service.

[1584]  Stop tinkering with the mission statement of the USMA to be "politically correct" or to respond to a fad

[1585]  Let's not lose the warrior spirit. Place greater emphasis on graduates serving a full career in military service.

[1586]  USMA's tacit support for accepting the use of our country's armed forces as a social sciences project. For the first time in my life, I am beginning to seriously question the need for federally supported military academies at all.

[1587]  change in commissioning status fund raising requirements

[1588]  I am not happy with overemphasis placed on academics. Military science, training, and joint education need to emphasized!

[1589]  It seems to me that the Academy has bought into the notion that "kinder gentler" training is needed to appeal to today's youth who may not yearn for a career in the military but do desire to devote their life to the country. However, these graduates will soon find that preparing for an Army career is the reason West Point exists. The Army is best served by smarter, tougher, graduates who can handle extreme pressure and stress. A cadet who does not desire a career in the military may best serve his/her country by pursuing academic excellence elsewhere.

[1590]  - Lack of sexual discrimination/harrassment training and classes and enforcement

[1591]  Double standards for men and women. Lowering of standards to accommodate women. Too many soft-core majors and minors. De-emphasis of class rank. Optional meals. Too many privileges too early (cars, drinking, leave, etc.) Too much emphasis on retaining people rather than weeding out misfits or softies. Allowing branch choices that are not combat branches.

[1592]  Increasing number of civilian instructors vice military officer instructors at USMA

[1593]  From some of the fund raising letters I get, I wonder if USMA has the money to go on. Is it really that bad, and if so, is USMA/AOG/the Army, doing everything we need to do to keep the government properly funding the instution.

[1594]  While it is undeniably valid that USMA must produce "leaders of character," I think that the goal of producing commissioned officers for the Armed Forces needs to be equally mentioned in the Mission Statement. Doesn't Harvard, Yale, etc. produce "leaders of character?" We need to articulate why the Academy is unique to America.

[1595]  Not sure the academic major capability supports the needs of the army. Need to relook in light of OPMS XXI impact.

[1596]  Not confident in knowing what the policy shifts have been executed or are proposed.

[1597]  concerned with the increased attention paid to toeing the line with what is politically correct at the expense of preparing future leaders to win America's wars, being morally steadfast and adhering to Duty, Honor and Country.

[1598]  Slippage away from service to the nation as an officer in the regular army

[1599]  I think the decision to do away with area tours is short-sighted. My guess is that it is the result of budgetary restraints and a misguided notion that punishment is "better" if the cadets are performing menial tasks. The negatives of tossing tradition aside outway the de minimus gains of the new disciplinary policy as I understand it to be.

[1600]  How USMA is handling the downsizing: how are civilian professors working out: ability of graduates to enter other than the combat arms seems to dilute the mission and adds to the controversy of size and need for an academy.

[1601]  Superintentdent is proactive to gain "buy-in" for his policies and ideas. If he doesn't get it, he does what he wants to do anyway -- and in three years, he's gone.... I am concerned that too much emphasis on, and responsibility for USMA needs are being placed on its grads without AOG supporting its grads. See earlier comments. The support from the grads should be them putting pressure on the Fed Govt (Pres, Congress, DoD, etc). High placed grads have power to do that. The more high placed greads, the more the power.

[1602]  Hang tough until the Clinton darkness passes. Life of cadets doesn't seem very unique any more. Just another college right now, like what Thayer must have faced.

[1603]  Ido not believe the Supe is amenable to advice. witness his handling of the Richardson advisory board, his pushing for admission to Conf USA, his lowering of PT standards, etc. Again, this opinion is shared by many.

[1604]  What concerns me most is the degree to which rumors, frequently distorted, outrun the facts due to poor communications.

[1605]  Concerned that USMA is too concerned with being politically correct.

[1606]  Not enough information at this time.

[1607]  - I feel we joined the wrong football league. Should have joined the Big East. - I am concerned with the negative feedback I am hearing from some senior officers as to the attitude of recent graduates, especially relative to their readiness to make excuses. - I truly hope the Corps is being instilled with the love of the place as were we (most of us anyway). Its contribution to this country, its past graduates, etc. - Finally, I am very concerned with the apparent bad reputation we seem to have with the "powers that be." Both Congress and the Seniors in the DOD/DA are not that enamored with USMA.

[1608]  Honor system. I have seen a lot of rhetoric on its eficacy. I have also learned from a cadet - second hand from another grad - that some "minor" honor violations can be expunged by punishment tours. If so, this is an erosion of the system. It is also a symptom of the administration's apparent concern at taking all reasonable and unreasonable steps to lose as few cadets as possible, rather than letting the lesser luminaries wash out. This latter may not be all bad, as it is so hard to predict who will be successful later in their career.

[1609]  focus on military more

[1610]  Infrastructure funding excessive academic majors lowering of standards

[1611]  1. Diminished academic rigor in curriculum. 2. Too much emphasis on recruiting of minorities, women, and athletes instead of future carreer officers.

[1612]  Would like to know if taxpayers are getting their money's worth from female graduates, i.e., are they staying for careers at the same rate as males or are they resigning at a higher rate.

[1613]  Congressional attempts to downgrade role of service academies because of funding constraints

[1614]  Liked the old mission statement better. Don't change the rules to accomodate women

[1615]  I am gnerally happy, but notice these problems: 1) Etiquette MUST be taught to cadets 2) Military Subjects should be taught year-round if possible 3) Athletic Facilities are in TERRIBLE (TO THE POINT OF BEING EMBARRASSING) condition

[1616]  The standard complaint. .. the place has gotten too easy and the new officers are not very strong as a consequence.

[1617]  Graduates should be focused on a military career, not general service to the nation, e.g. as a banker, lawyer or other professional.

[1618]  I believe that we made some critical mistakes years ago when we failed to maintain a focus on USMA as a principal provider of the nations warrior leaders. This attempt to liberalize generated a variety of changes which, in my view, diluted the qulity and focus of graduates. I am aware that there are any number of explanations and rationalizations for the course that has been followed and the characterizations that can be applied to those who disagree. We must be awre of the fact that if West Point does not in the end provide, first and foremost, warrior leaders who will stand and lead in the face of fire, that the need for the institution is open to question.

[1619]  Not happy with failure to attack reserve commissioning; not happy with collapse of WPPA-we need to actively support gards for key promotions/assignments in the Army - these type of success numbers keep the bean counters at bay.

[1620]  too many to list they should be obvious to anyone who cares about soldiers

[1621]  Again, I feel that USMA has, once more, fallen victim to its own need for improvement. We continually edit and amend the process of creating an officer. We exist to support and defend the Constituition of the United States. I think we have forgotten that our graduates may find themselves facing the unenviable decision of whether or not to stick a bayonet into someone. I don't know if today's graduates have the stomach for it. When I was a cadet, we had Tex Turner. He was a role model for hundreds of cadets. He inspired young men and women to serve their country proudly. He was a leader. I would wager large money that the current regime would run him out in the blink of an eye - Just like they did with that COL last year. The simple fact is that the MISSION of West Point has never changed, yet we continue to fool with the semantics of it.

[1622]  I am still concerned with the civilianization and blatant political correctness that was being implimented into the academy under the Clinton admin. It needs to be a comat arms school.

[1623]  I feel that to some extent the Academy has become too much of "just another college" & lost its unique place as the primary producer of career officers for the US Army. Because of the emphasis on being like civilian schools the Congress (made up of mostly non-veterans) is having difficulty understanding why it should continue to be funded by the government. Loss of Regular Army commissions upon graduation is an example.

[1624]  I perceive that the standards for Cadets are being devalued by offering "soft" curricula, such as management, in lieu of hard engineering subjects formerly required. Also the softening of the disciplinary process, such as discontinuation of punishment tours as traditional West Point tools of leadership development, etc. There is an inordinate emphasis on retention measures.

[1625]  USMA tries too hard to compete with top civilian universities on their own terms, to beat them at their game, rather than compete by offering a distinctive alternative, delivered with superb quality.

[1626]  Graduates should be given RAcommissions at graduation as before not have to wait until Major rank.

[1627]  Joint Service Academy consolidation

[1628]  1. Liberalization of curriculum to detriment of preparing for a "lifetime career" as an office in the US Army (not on a Corporate board). 2. Selecting PAP's before battalion command.

[1629]  Need to effect restoration of a mission directing graduates to an Army service career.

[1630]  USMA's first purpose is to produce Army officers and I think that the mission statement should state that explicitly, unapologetically. From my limited understanding, such change is now under consideration, and I support that.

[1631]  I am concerned that with each new commandant, he seems to be trying to out "PC" the last commandant. In particular the plebe year--it appears to be less than what basic recuits go through, the appointment of a last director of athletics--how much troop command time has she had?, no sociallizing at West Point for upperclasses and their dates. Let me explain this last one: When I visit WP, I am amzed how empty it is on the weekends. One side of me says that is good--I am glad to see the cadets off and having more weekends. This is definitely an improvement. However now no cadets invite their dates to WP for the weekend, except Ring Weekend, etc. What does the Cadet Hostess do these days?? My point is that there will be a lot of stress on these 2nd lts, and is would be good to get their otherb half to see the military side with its demands and benefits.

[1632]  Reserve commissioning is the first step in closing USMA. As we go to a small force, we should be even more concerned with maintaining the core (Corps) cadre of professional officers. A reserve commission does not serve the purpose. Additionally, it tends to take away the "professional" attitude. If the focus and purpose is to provide professional career officers, we MUST have RA commissions. Drawdown ROTC and centralize the officer Corps at West Point as it was pre-WWII. The decentralized ROTC and OCS processes do not produce with same degree of unrelenting success as does USMA. We should endeavor to return USMA to the MAIN source of commissioning of Active Army Officers and let ROTC refocus on just that, reserve components. The military only stands to benefit too, if we imbue the spirit of CAREER PROFESSIONAL OFFICERS. No longer can we be satisfied with people to do their five and to corporate America. I know it is a tough decision for an eighteen year old man or woman to make a career decison, but if the enter with the proper attitude, USMA can and will foster the spirit and desire to be a career officer. Service to the nation can then continue following retirement from active duty. Our vey high seperation rate after the completion of the initial commitment is what makes USMA less cost effective than the bean counters in congress and GAO like to see.

[1633]  grads are no longer RA

[1634]  1. Keep the focus on producing officers for today's (and tomorrow's) Army. If we can provide a world-class education, fine, but that is a secondary consideration. There are numerous WP skeptics out here who'd love to see it slip into the Hudson and they have some valid arguements. Must emphasize the military preparation! 2. Concern about special consideration for athletes. Love the football team, but let's keep the field level: if a football player can do it, let's make it an option for the rest of the corps. Specific reference to deals working here to let officers out of committments to play ball. What are the specific criteria for these early outs and do they apply to the Microsofts of the world as well as the 49ers/Giants/Saints . . .

[1635]  Need to restore regular commissions

[1636]  The last Thayer award reciepiant seemed to reflect a trendy appeasement rather than an outstanding example of the academy ideal of honor.

[1637]  Perhaps it is a perception problem, but the mission of USMA is not just to produce leaders for the country, many outstanding universities do that already. The mission should state that it is to produce military leaders for the country. That is the unique characteristic of being an academy graduate. The country benefits when the graduates leaves the military and joins the civilian ranks, but that should not be the focus of the institution's mission. I see, and feel, confusion on the actual status of the Military Academy. Is it a military academy dedicated to producing an ethically strong and technically sound military leaders, or is it a university that happens to wear uniforms? Many cadets and recent graduates I have talked to indicate what makes West Point unique is being diluted by smaller academic loads (oh those star days on Saturday), less stringent discipline (having the ability to email the senior officers on the post is not a real good way to teach the importance of the chain of command), and the abolishment of the formal fourth class disciplinary system. It is significant that when USNA had its stand down that the overwhelming input from the midshipmen was more discipline and stricter regulations was desired. Concerning the Fourth Class System. It should be formally reinstituted in its full glory, or tension. Plebe year is the time that a class develops its reputation and character. Part of what brings a class together is shared trials and tribulations. The isolation of the class (no recognition, special behavior like "pinging", and knowledge requirements) served to foster the bonds. Cooperate and Graduate took on a special meaning as a plebe, especially for a screw up like me. West Point was viewed by many as a laboratory for leadership development. Many cadets learn what leadership style works best for them and more importantly what motivates subordinates as an upperclassman. The plebe learns what behaviors are unacceptable, or worthy of emulation, in a leader by being subjected to them. The results of slow assimilation into the Corps of Cadets is separation. The old Fourth Class Discipline system ("4Cs and 4Ds) was separated the formal disciplinary system (600-1) for the plebes. No matter how big a screw up the plebe was, the fourth class system would not result in separation. Minor infractions that would result in 2-1 for upperclassmen where taken care of by the fourth class system. Areas were walked, but demerits did not accumulate as quickly. It appears to me that the use of the formal 600-1 disciplinary system on the plebes does not allow for development of the cadet, since errors are less tolerated. It seems like always using a Court Martial when an Article 15 would suffice. I did not mean to ramble, but am concerned that when talking to cadets they do not feel the same class identification or pride in the institution that I have.

[1638]  Over the past twenty years, the leadership, aided immensely (and perhaps guided) by the ever-growing permanent faculty, has just about finished the job of doing away with everything that made the Academy unique. It's now just a big ROTC department. Instead of looking forward to leading troops, cadets now sweat what graduate school they'll get into. Talked to a non-grad ex-sosh instructor recently, who said USMA was "the biggest sit-around-in-a-circle-and-sing-Kumbaya-place" he'd ever seen. Imagine my pride.

[1639]  Feminization of the military, starting at WP.

[1640]  ADDITIONAL NECESSITY TO INCULCATE CADETS IN IDEALS OF ACADEMY WITH SEVERAL THOUGHTS COMING TO MIND: TAKE CARE OF YOUR TROOPS - LACK OF ARROGANCE - UNSELFISH DEVOTION TO DUTY - HONESTY - RESPONSIBILITY HAVE GRADUATES BE INITIALLY ASSIGNED TO COMBAT ARMS. TRANSFER TO SUPPORT BRANCHES, CAN COME AFTER THE GRADUATES UNDERSTANDS MORE ABOUT THE ARMY'S CORE.

[1641]  - I feel reluctant to answer as I have been unfamiliar with recent developments at WP since my graduation. I would, however, be very interested in staying informed about the progress of the Academy.

[1642]  Corps becoming too politically correct. Focus on developing warfighting leaders being diluted. Article on Beast '85 and '97 an example. Hate to say it, but it seems that the corp "has" or soon will. By the way, what are these wreaths on cadet uniforms these days? I have yet to see them on greens or other Army uniforms.

[1643]  I provided the Supe with input and he respnded.

[1644]  We must ensure that the Academy continues to provide a different and superior product than an ROTC graduate. There must be value added. With so many changes we must not lose that edge or we have no justification for continued existience.

[1645]  Perception that admission standards have been relaxed Perception that emphasis has shifted away from developing a professional officer corps to academics only Perception that lower initial admission numbers coupled with pressure to graduate a larger percentage of initial accessions means reduced standards at graduation

[1646]  Need more time and info to respond intelligently.

[1647]  While I have no particular issue with the direction USMA is pursuing, my biggest concern is the influence of leadership and vision concerning our country. To what extent can we provide a greater contribution in a global society moving at the speed of light?

[1648]  I AM RELATIVELY NEW TO THE ARMY, I HAVE BEEN IN FOR ONLY 37 MONTHS, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN SURPRISED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF UNDISCIPLINED OFFICERS AND THEIR LACK OF VALUES AND MORALES . GRANTED, MOST ARE NOT WEST POINT OFFICERS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WEST POINT SHOULD NOT "EASE UP" ON CADETS AND THE STANDARDS AND PRIVILEDGES PROVIDED TO THEM. I BELIEVE THAT MAKING IT TOUGHER ON THEM WILL ONLY BETTER THEM FOR TODAYS ARMY. THE ARMY TODAY DOES NOT CONDONE ANY TYPE OF UNDISCIPLINED BEHAVIOR OR ADVERSE ACTIONS. WEST POINT MUST CONTINUE TO SET ITSELF APART FROM REGULAR INSTITUTIONS BY INSTILLING DISCIPLINE AND PROVIDING THESE TOUGH STANDARDS. IT IS WHAT SETS OUR SCHOOL APART FROM OTHER COLLEGES AND ROTC PROGRAMS.

[1649]  We seem to be losing tradition--things that made West Point, "West Point." Discipline also seems to be declining and was even admitted to me by a current cadet.

[1650]  I don't know enough about the direction to comment.

[1651]  I have a younger brother at USMA now, so he keeps me informed. I can't believe the direction that plebe life is heading. Plebe year is supposed to be hard. Mine was...

[1652]  De-emphasis on academic excellence. Many cadets perceive that mediocre grades are acceptable since all are commissioned as 2LT's, starting out with a clean sheet. We all remember "2-oh and go" and "a tenth pro is a tenth wasted." This is a handicap when USMA grads then participate in competitive selection processes which scrutinize undergraduate transcripts. A shift toward "political correctness". Example - the court martial last year of the cadet accused of rape by another cadet despite evidence that the young woman was intoxicated and the act was consensual.

[1653]  SAME COMMENT AS NO. 20

[1654]  I'm unaware of these policies, but would welcome the opportunity to provide feedback. Basicly I think the Army (and USMA) is out of touch with the real world.

[1655]  I am concerned about the perceived 'de-militarization' of USMA

[1656]  We shouldn't be lowering standards to accomodate women. If they can meet tough standards, OK. But I think keeping tough standards is impossible in the world of PC.

[1657]  Do not agree with the liberizing of the traditions. Shortening Plebe year, Area punishment tours, etc...

[1658]  This is only an individual perception and/or opinion. Since USMA has changed much of it rules/policies governing the development of cadets (beginning in the early '90s), I have noticed a smaller percentage of graduates actually focused on a career in the military. It is my perception that "cooperate and graduate" has lost its meaning in a more individualistic cadet environment. Thus, recent cadets seem much more like individuals looking to get out and start a lucrative civilian career. A generalistic example of the changes was the change in rules governing how Plebes eat at the table, how upper class cadets are limited to how they make a "correction" on a plebe, OML formula weighted toward academics, etc. The focus seemed to guide cadets towards targeting their efforts on academics and that all other "extra-curricular activities" were secondary in priority. USMA's reputation for a "whole-person" concept seems to be falling by the way-side. Thus, my major concern is that USMA's direction may be heading for a reputation that it is just another "private" college while being federally funded. I would like to think that future USMA graduates will continue to maintain the public image of a leader of this nation (whether in the military or the civilian sector). Much of my response also reflects the issues I personnally perceive in the army; leadership is no longer a focus and individualism has become a way of survival. My goal of this response is not to sound like an "old grad" reminiscing the "old corps" but rather a typical grad making an objective (and opinionated) observation of the the perceived differences in recent grads since many of the changes in hopes of raising a legitimate issue for decision-makers at USMA to reflect on as we move into a new era. BEAT NAVY!

[1659]  I am basically unaware of where West Point is heading. The local Society would be a good source for information, but I rarely get a chance to meet with members. I am concerned about the committment (or lack of it) policy of graduates and the comparative quality of West Point graduates and their ROTC counterparts. It seems that ROTC is getting better (good), but USMA graduates?

[1660]  Graduation rates Athletics Commissioning

[1661]  AAA seating policy at football games

[1662]  1. Commissioning as Reserve officers --> all West Point graduates should be granted Regular Army commissions.

[1663]  1. Commissioning as Reserve officers --> all West Point graduates should be granted Regular Army commissions.

[1664]  Many of the areas where WP (and other service academies) are off track are really Service matters, e.g sending grads off to non-combat branches without first having to serve for two or three years in same to learn what the Service is there to do (of course, this presents some problem with the women); the size of the Corps is too big -- too many graduates for the size of the Army and no where to put them.

[1665]  Lack of RA commission for graduates

[1666]  WP should get back to being more of a professional military training school for commanders and less like a taxpayer supported general collage.

[1667]  1. lack of RA commissions. 2. Too high a percentage of civilian instructors. 3. Too broad a curriculum. 4. Graduates shoud initially be assigned to combat arms. 5. Size of corps should be reduced commensurate with the downiszing of the Army.

[1668]  I am dismayed at USMA's drive toward academic prestige with the apparent sacrifice of instilling a desire to serve out one's career in the military. I witnessed much of this when I was a branch rep at USMA 1991-93, and have continued to see indications that the academy encourages our young graduates to see themselves as temporary soldiers rather than career officers. While I myself exited the military, I left with a great deal of pain. I left to take care of my children with the hopes that, when my husband retired, I might continue service in an AGR or NG job. Now I see young graduates taking the first opportunity to hurry off of active duty, with the open arms of AOG waiting to usher them off into civilian jobs. My husband has been outraged to be approached in his job as an assignments officer at PERSCOM by USMA graduates hoping to help get a grad out even earlier than 2 years. My feelings are that AOG has become a job mill in much the same way that USMA appears to be a diploma mill rather than a place that fosters a strong desire to serve the country. I don't like that new mission statement.

[1669]  Replacing military instructors with civilian instructors is bad for the Army. The Army leadership should petition Congress to reinstate the military faculty. AOG has not come clean about the mismanagement of the USMA funds by a previous superintendent that has in part brought about the need to shake down graduates for money. Until this happens, getting more contributions will be a hard sell.

[1670]  I am concerned about the (unclear) new policy by which graduates are no longer assured active duty commissions, however I doubt that the Supe choose that policy. If congressionally mandated, I find it an atrocity.

[1671]  do not have sufficient data to answer

[1672]  Is WP trying to be too collegiate? You may be getting higher SAT scores from your entrants, but you're getting fewer graduates in the chair of the Joint Chiefs. Don't lose sight of the purpose of the Military Academy which is to produce officers for the U.S. Army, who must stand up in front of the troops and say follow me into this ugly mess.

[1673]  Changes to the Honor System, in particular locks on doors and the level of officer involvement in the Corps' Code and enforcement. Statements on service to the nation, without the services to support graduates upon exiting the Army. My models for this sort of support would be top 10 business schools which offer extensive alumni support networks and career centers.

[1674]  I am concerned by a general degradation of West Point's fundamental principles and rich traditions and a lowering of its standards for discipline to follow the latest social trends and fads under the guise of supporting new, more politically correct "initiatives." West Point needs to get back to the basics of building strong leaders of character! The many recent graduates I have met do not impress me in the least! In fact, there no longer is a difference between West Pointers and officers commissioned from other sources. In my opinion, these self-centered graduates lack a sense of service and make one wonder if West Point is worth the cost.

[1675]  More of a queestion than anything...How are we getting the new classes ready for the mental toughness they'll need as commissioned officers with the current conduct of the fourth class system? Seems as though there's no challenge other than academics left.

[1676]  1) After mandatory service, class rentention rates in the Army are poor; 2) Winning image of Army football must be restored...like it or not, it's important to recruiting; 3) Recruiting in the West appears to receive less emphasis than in other parts of the country; 4) Are things too PC?; 5) Perhaps it's time to recruit a few more "B" students( who make the better leaders in the long run) rather than always opting for the academic super stars.

[1677]  I don't like the proposals for a potential graduate program at USMA and am not currently aware if this is an idea formally being studied or proposed.

[1678]  Yes, West Point needs to focus on how officers can better survive in the Army. ROTC folks seem to have an upper edge.

[1679]  I am out of touch with what has changed.

[1680]  I am concerned that the academic curriculum, with it's core focus on the basic sciences & mandatory languages such as portugese, may not be the best education possible for cadets. As many cadets are now Humanity & Public Affairs majors as Math-Science-Engineering majors. I would rather the Academy shift it's focus from being an "engineering" school to a "management" school.

[1681]  Fund raising: I think USMA and/or AOG need to take a very serious, probably more professional apporoach to fund raising.

[1682]  I am concerned about the continuing reliance on gifts to support brick and mortar infrastructure. I am concerned that Congress is abdicating its responsibilities in the maintenance of WP as a military and historical installation.

[1683]  My understanding is that the issues and policies of West Point are becoming increasingly affected by macroenvironmental effects (i.e. social, political, etc.) Consequently, the "West Point Way" that I and former graduates had been accustomed to, has been lessened. Thus, the individual developmental process of cadets is detrimentally affected.

[1684]  - Apparent inability to influence or undo decision to not grant USMA graduates Regular Commissions.

[1685]  Not aware of new issues, policies or direction.

[1686]  Issues: The Corps, with dirrection from above, has gotten too soft! Although our society has become more laid-back, that doesn't mean that my Academy/school has to follow suite. Plebe year seems to be a farce. Military training seems to be on the back burner. Accomodating everyone seems to be the goal at the expense of providimg the best leadership training. Etc.

[1687]  I'm concerned that the elimination of the "plebe experience" will allow weak-willed persons to graduate and get people killed in combat. I remember classmates who "stressed out" of the Academcy; better there than in front of troops.

[1688]  Lack of commitment and mental toughness from recent graduates. Every USMA graduate or cadet I have encountered in the last few years--probably around 40 or 50(of both sexes)--have failed my most important test--Can I trust this young lieutnant to want to know and do his job and then be totally committed to accomplishing the mission. The desire to actually serve the Army and the Nation is obviously absent in each recent graduate.

[1689]  I am concerned that in the effort to be "Politically Correct" the Academy may be producing leaders who are afraid to make the hard decisions and do what is best for the army and the defense of the nation. I am more concerned with developing the best fighting force for the money, rather than the most "equal opportunity" force for the money. There is a huge chasm between these two goals. I fear that the Academy is focusing on the latter, rather than the former.

[1690]  Mission statement is wrong. Production of leaders of character for the nation is not the role of the Army's academy. Must return to a mission statement that speaks to career leaders in service to the nation as officers of the US Army. There is an increasing move away from the military aspect of academy life. Examples include military instruction during an intersession rather than throughout the year, cadets not able to attend Range School (refered to by one faculty member as a negative leadership environment); cadets go on fellow ships with DOD, DA and Government Departments in lieu of CTLT or attendance at a military school. The Academy must exist to produce career officers of character, or the investment will not pay off.

[1691]  I think that the languages taught by DFL and the emphaisis on certain languages should be changed to reflect the times. For example, I think French and Portuguese should be deleted and Korean added. The net result of dropping one language would, in effect, place additional emphaisis on the resulting languages which would be: Arabic, Chinese, German, Korean, Russian, Spanish. Also a third semester language requirement should be reinstated.

[1692]  I know that the Superintendent is steering the Academy in the right direction, but at the same time I dislike seeing the Academy breaking from so many traditions (Area Tours).

[1693]  1. Lack of commitment to service in US Army 2. Ability to select non-combat branches 3. Negative influence of women at West Point

[1694]  The availabiliy of funding for the academy versus political realities nationally and internationally have always been obscure. The AOG, or some organization, should be more active politically to insure no social engineering is imposed without appropriate funding and complete review by everybody (ie. slow the process). Influence the academy management to adjust the size of the corps and the curriculum to budgetary requirements.

[1695]  Many graduates I have talked to and I feel that West Point is abandoning the "warrior spirit" and that some graduates are coming out of USMA thinking they will not have to kill others in their career. I taught at West Point and have great respect for its academic achievements, but I believe its OK for an officer to be smart AND be able to kill the enemy and break things.

[1696]  concerned with the dilution of the fourth class system as recently well explained in the letter published by the woman graduate comparing her fourth class summer to the current one

[1697]  Discussions in the press about comments made in Congress on cutting back funding, etc., related to the service academies.

[1698]  I've noticed that new grads (the one's I've seen) don't handle pressure well (like I learned to in Beast and during plebe year) and seem to be expecting conditions in the Army to be more ideal than reality permits. They didn't seem to me to be very flexible at first (although most of them did learn and were able to overcome bad initial first impressions.

[1699]  We have apparently been unsuccessful in creating an atmosphere at USMA in recent years that there is an expectation of a career in the Army for all graduates. There is too much talk among faculty and cadets of the great possibilities in the civilian workplace. The downsizing gave rise to some of this, but the attitude that a military career is only one possibility will eventually create great damage to the Academy.

[1700]  My main concerns are addressed above and directly relate to an over emphasis on athletics.

[1701]  1. RA commission issue 2. Too much emphasis on fund-raising, especially the new stadium complex/weight room--who cares whether the football team has better equipment? That is only 70 cadets...what about the other 3930 cadets? 3. Insistence by USMA staff (many of whom are grads and went through a tough plebe/USMA experience) that the "old" ways aren't good...didn't they produce Lee, Patton, etc.?

[1702]  I don't know the direction (out of the loop) Last Founders' Day speaker talked mosting about sports.

[1703]  No RA commission upon graduation and allowing graduates to choose other than combat arms branches. I think these policies are setting the academies up for closure.

[1704]  Return to Order of Merit for graduates instead of listing them alphabetically

[1705]  My son, who is a Plebe, has not been tested in the same way that past classes have had to endure. He actually gained weight during Beast Barracks. A number of upperclassmen (not in his chain-of-command) have "recognized" him during his first semester. Academics are not as demanding and cadets get too much free time, particularly on weekends. My eldest son, who is a junior at Virginia Tech in their ROTC program, is more physically and academically challenged than my son at West Point.

[1706]  Read and compare "Making the Corps" .Somewhere we seem to have lost our bearings.Maybe we are trying to stay to close to what's popular rather than doing what's correct.This isn't just "the Corps has".The emphasis seems to be more on retention rates(with the same basic caliber input).Shorten everything,ease up on honor penalty,etc.etc.We need fewer really good men & women.

[1707]  I believe all old grads lament the relaxation of standards and the "civilianization" we have observed over the years.

[1708]  I feel what all grads feel, that it is getting less disciplined but that is probably just a figment of the imagination. I do wish the football stadium would get grass and that Bob Sutton would leave.

[1709]  I believe we may be eliminating some of the elements of stress for new cadets that are essential for creating the capability to think clearly and make logical decisions in stressful combat situations. Why mess with almost 200 years of success? Eventually we will change something needed for success in the name of progress.

[1710]  Need more info re issues/policies to respond.

[1711]  The elimination of the Pistol and Rifle teams as official intercollegiate sports at West Point was mistake. This is an area where the Army should be in the lead (as opposed to the Navy). I understand that this was done for budgetary reasons, but the "club sports" are not a complete substitute because of the general level of support that is lost. It also leaves the quality of coaching to chance since coaching now depends on volunteer officers or NCO's. Away events now often depend on donations or the cadets paying their own way. Perhaps updating these sports programs to be more in line with the direction of the current and future Army will make them more appealing to those that make the bugdet decisions. (I would gladly provide input to any such effort.)

[1712]  The Corps "HAS"

[1713]  I am concerned by the movement away from public funding of Cadet activities and growing reliance on alumni contributions for such purposes.

[1714]  Not sure why we are changing or upgrading the mission statement

[1715]  Would really require more time than is available to me now to properly answer this.

[1716]  It seems that too great of an emphasis is being placed on insuring political correctness instead of focusing on developing the best officers possible.

[1717]  Not aware of any.

[1718]  As stated in item #15 above.

[1719]  Make Beast harder, more physical& more stressful Place FAR less emphasis on recruiting athletes

[1720]  -Interested in the retention rate, e.g. what percentage of each graduate stay 20 plus years?; what are we doing to keep/build this number up?; what percentage of male and female stay 20 plus years? -Concern is that if WEST POINT does not achieve/maintain a 'reasonable' percentage of graduates for a military career(20 plus years), we run a risk(Liberal element of Congress thinking) of losing the Academy because of the expense involved to graduate each officer

[1721]  I still don't approve of women in the corp of "professional killers". A separate Academy for women would be fine. If we have transitioned subtly from being professional killers to gentlemen soldiers, I think we've lost our mission, and we can be like any other Ivy League institution on the East Coast.

[1722]  I want: the academy staying focused upon Duty, Honor, Country. high academic standards maintained. don't want it jerked around by politics, at least the jerking around minimized.

[1723]  Am concerned the academy is changing its focus from a military institution to an academic institution. We need to emphasize this institution is for developing military leaders with a good academic background vice what I think is happening which is an expensive ROTC program.

[1724]  1. Weakening of "combat spirit" 2. Direction towards political correctness 3. Changing of beast barracks approach 4. Encouraging growth of splinter groups among graduates by fostering minority associations. A graduate is a graduate!

[1725]  I am concerned about the AOG funding programs and projects that should be funded by the U.S. government. We should to it like the AF Academy and Naval Academy do it. Expect and DEMAND that the U.S. government pay for all programs and projects that relate to the fundamental mission of the Academy. That is not what I see in the future funding by AOG. I see us not involved in supplemental funding but in DIRECT funding that should be provided by the U.S. government.

[1726]  Mission on the academy - development of leaders for the Army, or for the civilian sector? I frown on any efforts to make the academy into just another college. I wonder if cadets are more interested in serving in the armed forces or developing skills to make them more competitive in civilian life? Since the mid 1980s it has been my impression that the latter holds true. My opinion is based on comments from classmates/grads that have served as academy instructor (they say the curriculum encouraged this attitude) and conversations with junior officers associated with these year groups. Or, check out the percentage of graduates still on active duty. What is the retention percentage of academy graduates by class on critical career dates (5 years 20 years)? Although the military drawdown was a factor, I think you will see that many classes in the mid-80's (those under/influenced by Gen Palmer as the Sup) began to bolt at the first opportunity. I could be way off base, but that is my initial impression - now that you have asked.

[1727]  Clear understanding that the mission includes training future leaders of the country, regardless of the length of military service. This is just the starting point.

[1728]  Abbreviated list: Combat arms training and first assignment. Women at West Point. Reserve commissions. Civilian faculty. Honor code. Locks on doors. Pregnancy. Retention.

[1729]  focus on bedrock value of compassion for others at the expense of other values; softening of the 4th Class system;

[1730]  I still believe that cadet pay is ridiculously low and that the academy ought to be concerned with the fact that its typical brand new graduate leaves USMA with a significant debt load.

[1731]  Focus is turning away from competent military leaders to a more general "politically correct" leaders for the Nation.

[1732]  Like many, I think the Corps "has". It appears the new direction is strictly academically oriented, and it leans more that way begs the question of need for the Academy. What is wrong with producing military officers and leaders vice PhD?

[1733]  1. Traditional areas of plebe year are slowly being eroded. When plebes enjoy Beast Barracks and say that plebe year is not difficult, then I question the changes being made. 2. Excessive number of electives being offered. Waste of precious resources. 3. Over-emphasis on bowl games. 4. Increasing dependence on graduates for funds.

[1734]  In general ,however I feel that USMA must lobby thru all available means for additional appropriated funds (See 16 above). We cannot survive w/o ' tooting our own horn' and proclaiming to ALL THE REASONS WHY USMA exists.

[1735]  RA Commissions for Graduates should not go away

[1736]  Class officers and reps are more qualified than I am to answer this question.

[1737]  1. They seem to be trying to train Rhodes scholars instead of military officers. 2. Did not put enough effort in to fighting for regular commissions for WP graduates.

[1738]  op. cit. The nation has need of a military academy to develop combat leaders for our nation's army. We don't need USMA if it is to be a national university.

[1739]  As a taxpayer funded institution USMA will always be subject to the dictates of political correctness whether or not it is in the best interests of the nation or the corps. In typical fashion it seems that the marching orders are there and, as is an officer's duty, the mandate is to carry out the order to the best of one's ability (whether you agree or disagree). I am troubled by what appears to be the diminishment of West Point's luster as a source of our country's future leaders. I am unsure whether this is a valid observation or merely a misperception of what is taking place at the rock. Admittedly, the recent discussions on the forum page have been enlightening and somewhat disheartening.

[1740]  Political Correctness as it conflicts with training military leaders. Aparrent problems with the Honor System Civilianization of USMA, e.g. voluntary meals, etc. Lowering of standards Changes in the Plebe System

[1741]  The ties that bind are not always rational, especially when viewed from outside USMA. I hope that as the Comm removes some of these plebe tasks, that they are replaced with something that will hold the class together and allow them to identify with the old corp in some way.

[1742]  mission statement no area tours lack of commitment of cadets to service? political correctness in place of mission

[1743]  I have completed 13 years active duty and 8 years in the US Army Reserve. It is imperative that we instill in the USMA community the importance of Reserve service. As the mission of US Armed Forces changes, there is a shifting emphasis placed on Reserve Units. Graduates, current Cadets and Active Army only personnel must understand and support the Reserve mission.

[1744]  The Corps Has. And I really mean it. New Graduates going into Non Combat roles ?

[1745]  Concerns for "political correctness" appear to have replaced proven traditional values.

[1746]  Concerns for "political correctness" appear to have replaced proven traditional values.

[1747]  Civilianization Push to do more faculty research

[1748]  I do not have enough information about the current trends.

[1749]  Placing gradutes in non-combat arms branches.

[1750]  I feel that committment to a career is unnecessary. It is the job of Congress to ensure a fair pay-back for value received by use of service requirements (3 yrs, 5 yrs, etc).

[1751]  WP is following the trend of the services in general of politicizing the military out of existance. Too much stock is being placed in political correctness and too little in preparing young people to lead others into bloody, dirty, and exhausting combat. For this we will all pay the price.

[1752]  Frankly, I haven't followed West Point's direction since it accepted women and watered down its Honor Code. I'm not against what it has done, but I don't feel part of it anymore because it has changed beyond my recognition.

[1753]  Women at USMA.

[1754]  We must get back to the idea of providing leaders for the combat arms.

[1755]  "Loosening" the 4th class system; talked with a yearling who was home and he related the plebes seem to run the place; it was headed in that direction before we left in '90 Civilian professors--USMA lose an advantage of having professors with a vested interest and relationship with the cadets. If the problem is poor education, that should be handled by selecting professors who want to educate, not just punch their ticket with an Academy professorship

[1756]  I'm concerned about the long term survival of the institution. What is the clear distinction of Academy Grads (product) versus ROTC/Other Grads, after the five year point in a military career? What is the Benefit/Cost ratio of sending future offers to service academies?

[1757]  I shall forever be disturbed that Gen. Palmer eliminated the USMA Squash team because it continues to lose...to Navy. That was an outrageous decsiion. That is not much of a ideal to hold up to the world about the goals of the Academy. When lost, simply cancel the sport...UNBELIEVABLE. And apparantly no one has the stomach to reverse that decision. Where is the written explanation for this hasty retreat at just the threat of a loss in battle?.

[1758]  Civilian Professors

[1759]  I am still concerned that the graduating class members are not commissioned in the Regular Army

[1760]  West Point is getting to look too much like a civilian college. Why go to the Point when graduates from other colleges can get a broader base of instruction ( humanities, science, etc.) and still be no different in achieving RA.

[1761]  Would like to see hold to solid set of traditinal values in face of changing society

[1762]  I have no evidence to support my concerns. The information I receive is normally second hand. My major concern is that we are no longer producing a top of the line product (responsible leaders). I have been told the drop out rate of WP officers from Ranger School is at an all time high (I have no evidence to support this) and WP officers lack the character and disipline of past classes (not all, and again I have no evidence to support this).

[1763]  - USAR commissions - Graduates should not be eligible for RIF with RA commissions (YG 79 & almost 80)

[1764]  leadership and attitude of cadets regular commisions for WP grads funding by Congress for facilities, including sports equal to other academies, at West Point

[1765]  Not sufficiently familiar to be able to answer

[1766]  1. I don't want to attract candidates with only the desire to suceed in corporate America. Prospective cadets should not attend just because USMA is a prestigous school. A willingness to serve in the Army is required.

[1767]  I am currently employed in higher education at the college/university level. The general environment in a civilian academic institution is NOT one that I would like to see at West Point. The style of management, the integrity, the lack of delegated authority,the entire decision making process, etc., etc.,that is typical in a civilian university should not be present at a military academy, to say nothing of THE Military Academy. Not having served at USMA, nor having even visited there very often, I can't say whether these situations even exist. Nevertheless, every effort should be taken by the Supe, Com,and the Dean to keep West Point as the premier training arena for military service to our country - not just one more elite "egg head factory".

[1768]  Impact of fund raising activities on Congressional appropriations. Relying upon AOG only to lobby Congress. We will support if guided.

[1769]  I am concerned about the changes in branch choices and RA commissions

[1770]  I beieve the Academy should be clearly focused on providing graduates who will complete a full career in the uniformed services, with emphasis on service in the combat and combat support arms.

[1771]  Combat doesn't allow time out for stress; soldiers perform how they train.

[1772]  The "civilization" of the academy way of life. It appears that we bending the rules to appear more palatable to the young populace to secure their interest in the academy. I thought we were still a military academy. Having cheerleaders leading "rap" cheers and appear in gang garb at football games seems a bit over the top.

[1773]  fuzzy mission in post-Cold War world; unclear whether fourth class system still in place; too much emphasis on conformity and mindless loyalty ("my country right or wrong") and not enough on having the moral courage to question everything, including one's role in the world and society.

[1774]  Loss of focus on warfighting and service to the Army/nation versus more focus on individual with majors in academics and more folks going to branches other than combat arms. Also, I'm not opposed to progress, but I am concerned that we maintain a sufficient level of "shared hardship" at West Point to continue to make it a very difficult place to graduate from. It is just this hardship which has bound its graduates together in the past. Forgetting "Corps Has" and all that stuff, I hope it is still painful enough for the cadets so that this special bonding process is still occurring -- I'm nervous that it isn't. If West Point isn't a special place, continuing to produce high quality folks, then it will lose its relevance and cease to exist -- we need to focus more on making it more different than anywhere else, not more like other colleges.

[1775]  Our direction seems to be toward integrating grads seamlessly into the Army as a whole. I feel we are to set the example, not blend in.

[1776]  I am not fully informed about the fuss concerning the leadership department. I do know that a number of graduates are concerned about trends they discern in what type of soldiers we are preparing.

[1777]  USMA (and the AOG) exists because of the Army, for the Army. USMA leaders often fail to convey their commitment to the Army and to its purposes, and the public often gets the impression that the USMA product is Rhodes Scholars or stellar athletes rather than officers undertaking a lifetime of service in the Army.

[1778]  I am very pleased with the efforts to integrate women into the academy. I am displeased with the attack on the academy from members of congress and others withing to underfund it.

[1779]  Situational ethics instruction Diluting the combat mission of the Academy

[1780]  Unsure of the status of honor code, quality of leadership instruction and evolution of the academics offerred

[1781]  Are Combat Leaders really being developed who want to serve their country in the military in time of need, or has the Academy become only a college university.

[1782]  Naturally as an "old grad" I think the standards are loosening up some. I learned this during my reunion by personal observation of the cadets general military bearing and discussions with classmates.

[1783]  I am concerned about the direction we seem to headed that requires more fund raising for programs which used to be funded with tax dollars. Given the mission of the Academy, we should never let it rely on (or be swayed by) private funding!

[1784]  I am concerned that we graduates are looked upon as "elitists" in our own Military establishment. As a physician I am greatly disturbed by the concept that everyone must fit a particular mold. The Academy is a great instution of both academia and discipline. Those qualities instilled in us apply to ALL prefessional pursuits.

[1785]  Discipline; honor; drinking; civilianization of faculty and atmosphere; lowering of standards (e.g., "recycling" to avoid admitting some one may bave failed); Political Correctness; sexual harassment used as a weapon against male cadets; cheapening of cadet rank with "makework" jobs that should be additional duties - there are no indians any more!!!; dissension in the faculty; etc. etc.

[1786]  caparison of USMA with supposedly more cost effective commissioning sources (a dubious claim for various reasons) and occasional rumblings about closing USMA

[1787]  I remain undecided on many of the policies of USMA (new mission statement, etc.). However, I believe that in order to ensure taht West Point does not lose its unique place in our nation's political/social/economic aspects, it must not stray too far from its core or become what it is not. Improvement -- not change-- should be sought. Issues and policies which do the former I support. Others, I do not.

[1788]  Percentage of nonmilitary on staff & faculty.State of the honor system.

[1789]  See my answer for question #17

[1790]  Forcing over 25% of women graduates into career fields where they have no future career path.

[1791]  Civilianization of the faculty in academic departments scares me--don't want a Naval Academy solution without role models. Got to do something to instill a desire to serve in graduates: Too much me-ism.

[1792]  Concerned about screening of civilian faculty selected to teach at West Point. I believe they should be the strongest proponents of USMA - but it does not seem to be the case.

[1793]  The Regular Army Commission

[1794]  Discipline Honor Code Loss of Vol Indef Status to Grads

[1795]  As with most grads, I dislike the way USMA is becoming more and more like other civilian institutions rather than maintaining its tradition.

[1796]  USMA must not lose its focus on producing leaders for the Army; this must remain the absolute priority mission in the minds of ALL staff and faculty assigned to the Academy

[1797]  Without putting too harsh a face on it, I'm somewhat concerned about what has happened to the Fourth Class System. My plebe experience has been a source of strength for me in difficult times and it would be a shame if that were eased up too much. Let's face it, plebe year should be extremely stressful and unpleasant. This can be accomplished without resorting to dangerous or unprofessional behavior, sexual or racial harassment, or other unacceptable practices.

[1798]  Think Christman is doing a great job

[1799]  The loss of Regular commissions.

[1800]  I am struck by what seems to be a reduction in the focus on developing combat leaders for the Army. An ethic of combat service (gender or branch is not important, Cbt/CS/CSS all must have the ethic) is what should be stressed. We seem to be losing sight of the primary purpose of an army- to fight.

[1801]  1. Seems to be a diminishing emphasis on mental and physical toughness. 2. During my recent 15 yr reunion, was appalled by the lack of respect afforded by current cadets...stark contrast to what I experienced at the 10 yr in '92. Military courtesy appeared to be on a slide. Very disheartening and difficult to maintain graduate support if alumni lose faith in the quality of leaders following behind us.

[1802]  w-p should train fighters in a broad sense. not politicians or arts not associated with the military. men & women alike.

[1803]  We must enhance and promote the public image and knowledge about the Academy throughout the US

[1804]  I am concerned with the total elimination of the Fourth Class System. Yes, there were bad points to the System, but there were very good points to the System. The "Negative Leadership" experience, although tough, is a life-changing experience that cannot be replaced.

[1805]  I am not familiar with the current agenda. However, I have heard various comments from other graduates that do concern me.

[1806]  My primary concern is with government support. Grads will always have adamant opinions about USMA internal function and operation policies; these are secondary in my mind to the preservation of the government commitment to fund West Point. We are nothing without the people's support.

[1807]  Need more info

[1808]  The policies at the academy are become too liberal. The plebe system, the cadet discipline system, from what I understand, appears to be becoming too easy and not tough enough

[1809]  Refocusing on its basic mission. I am worried about its survival as it tends to become foremost another great American university. Concerns exist about its cost-effectiveness, governmental support even popular support.

[1810]  Honor Code should not be more lax.

[1811]  Becoming just another "college" Not adequately motivating cadets for career in the military service. Not focusing on preparing cadets for the combat branches. Overemphasis by superintendent on intercoll egiate athletics.

[1812]  Realistically, USMA should be closed. It is not cost effective. The Army no longer attempts to retain graduates.

[1813]  Concerned with the perception that West Point is not as mentally and physically challenging.

[1814]  Regular Comission for graduates. Honor Code Purpose of the Academy (It is not just another college)

[1815]  Reserve instead of RA commissions for graduates.

[1816]  Am concerned we are becoming too "politically correct" and soft. Mark Elfendahl's ('89) letter in the recent Assembly accurately summarizes my thoughts as well.

[1817]  Ever since LTG Dave R. Palmer was Supe, there have been untold changes in the daily lives of the cadet corps that noone has truly been informed of. Changes such as no pinging, no area tours, cars for Cows, no RA commissions, and other untold overturnings of tradition ought to at least be addressed and given a reason for. It has reached a point in recent years that I can not accurately give prospective candidates a picture of daily life at the academy because so much has changed that I am totally unaware of.

[1818]  USMA should not look to the AOG for funding that more appropriately should be furnished by the federal government

[1819]  -loss of the RA commision upon graduation--fight for its return -need more focus on military careers and military career leadership

[1820]  I don't understand the emphasis on making USMA more like the Army, and thereby removing its distinction as an institution that creates "Warriors." The discipline I learned and retain from my many hours of "pinging", area tours, etc. . Have made me successful in everything I have done.

[1821]  I consider the mixture of women with men at the academies and within the combat units to be currently detrimental and potentially more detrimental. This is not a bias question. It is a recognition of the differences and the potential effects of those differences on morale and effectiveness.

[1822]  USMA has forgotten that its primary mission is to train future combat officers and is turning into a liberl arts college training its graduates for civilian occupations. The engeneering degree is much more useful to a combat officer than a liberal arts degree, particularly in the company grades. If one elects to leave the military as I did, it is not a problem to obtain advanced degrees in other fields. If USMA continues its current course for another twenty five years, it will have essentially the same mission as Williams or Amherst.

[1823]  I think the Academy is losing its discipline.

[1824]  I am aware of some of the major concerns and differences of opinion that are around. I am not informed or well enough positioned to be able to urge specific solutions.

[1825]  I prefer not to comment in this forum for fear of being labeled a grumpy old grad

[1826]  Am glad to see that the new mission statement makes mention of a career as a commissioned officer: West Point should never lose sight of the fact that its graduates are tasked by society to win our nation's wars.

[1827]  Provide graduates with a regular commission upon graduation.

[1828]  Provide graduates with a regular commission upon graduation.

[1829]  1. I am concerned about what I perceive to be a decline in the level of (self-)discipline among graduates, as evidenced by a lack of respect for senior officers, wear of uniform, etc. 2. If society is sending the Academy cadets who lack respect and discipline, I do not believe the current leadership style/theory of the Academy is the proper method of instilling in the cadets West Point's values. 3. I am also concerned about what I perceive USMA's desire to be more like the Army in military training; the standards in the Army are not high, and should not be the standards USMA grads strive for. 4. I disagree with the appointment of a non-grad as head of DPE. If there is one "academic" department that truly separates USMA from civilian schools it is DPE (a department that was probably my biggest nemesis as a cadet). Using the rationale of appointing an officer to that position because of joint domicile considerations is particularly troublesome.

[1830]  I am concerned about the tendency to legitimize our education by comparing it to civilian institutions. We will never compete with them on their terms. We must legitimize our existence by proving the quality of the officer the Academy provides.

[1831]  Although the mission is still to produce Army officers, there is more of a need for instilling skills which are needed in civilian life and business as the military is reduced in size. There should be more effort given to preparing graduates for business careers as well as military. This is especially true in the area of fiscal responsibility.

[1832]  As there appears to be more and more reliance on private funding for a whole host of things, I would like to see something done to not only promote this effort but also provide a better networking platform in the private sector for grads aimed at business, career opportunities as well as socially.

[1833]  Too broad a question in my view. Basically I think that the Supe is doing a fine job, but there are areas I know little about that might concern me, such as the role of the plebe system, how academics are no viewed, etc. There are many changes as WP that I feel are good or necessary, but there are some that I cannot evaluate without more knowledge.

[1834]  Don't know enough to answer.

[1835]  From what I have heard. the academy staff is shying away from contesting the Reserve commission law for all service academy graduates. we shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie.

[1836]  Concerned that focus has become too academic. West Point is not an Ivy League College - it is the premier military academy in the world. Our graduates must continue to be world class military leaders. I see too many recent grads who leave the Army as soon as they can to become doctors, lawyers and mutual fund sales persons!

[1837]  USMA should exist only to provide military leaders during wartime. USMA is not an Ivy League school and should not try to act like one. It has a unique mission and doesn't need to compete with other liberal colleges and universities.

[1838]  Direction is an issue all organizations must continually re-visit. Having attended West Point and taught there, and attended another institution, Georgia Tech, I can tell you that Georgia Tech is academically harder. This observation has been supported by my first hand observations in the Army and in business. Maybe this is not what we are striving for, but I think we think we are tougher, academically. Like any business, we must decide what we do best and do it. This means not doing other things that don't directly contribute. I think we try to be all things to all people.

[1839]  Concern with an apparent policy to increase the retention rate to the extent that, if a cadet desires to graduate, they will graduate. I have heard numbers like 87% retention to graduation of an incoming class. Admissions screening is good but not that good. I further understand the political conundrum within which we must survive. Cost per graduate too high - increase the number of graduates. At some point we must wrestle with the quality of the output.

[1840]  Female Master-of-the-Sword

[1841]  New Lieutenants coming out have a lower level of motivation than their ROTC peers, most have already made post-Army plans. I say this based on my recent 18 month experience as an OBC Instructor.

[1842]  Female Master-of-the-Sword

[1843]  I can't answer this question right now.

[1844]  I truthfully have not followed the latest direction USMA is taking, so I do not feel qualified to comment on this issue.

[1845]  too much dependence on fund raising rather than securing the right financial support through the federal budget process

[1846]  Changes in USMA from 1802 till the 1976 were devoted to training and developing combat arms leaders for a career in the regular army. Changes since 1976 seem to be devoted to reducing USMA to little more than a federally funded ROTC program that loses its differential advantage over ROTC program. This bothers me intently. Discussions about converting USMA to a post graduate school equals alarms me. My peers and older grads used to joke that 'the Corps has!' Now, we fear it is no longer a joke.

[1847]  Changes in USMA from 1802 till the 1976 were devoted to training and developing combat arms leaders for a career in the regular army. Changes since 1976 seem to be devoted to reducing USMA to little more than a federally funded ROTC program that loses its differential advantage over any university ROTC program. This bothers me intently. Discussions about converting USMA to a post graduate school equals alarms me. My peers and older grads used to joke that 'the Corps has!' Now, we fear it is no longer a joke.

[1848]  We need to stick to the basics of honor and discipline. From personal experience, I believe there has been a breakdown of this at the naval academy, and there is the possibility of it happening at USMA. Whatever new programs are created need to be based on the principles of honor and discipline. I am afraid that these are weak areas in American society, and they need to be upheld by the academy at all costs.

[1849]  I hope the Academy does a better job in the future of stressing its role of developing officers for career service.

[1850]  The elimination of Regular Army commissions is most distressing. It is just one more area that used to 'seperate' USMA from ROTC, but now this is even in question. Also, the Supe's new mission statement seems like a lot of work in semantics, and does not really make any major difference from the mission as currenlty stated

[1851]  I'm unhappy with the Supe soliciting money from Alumni to use for rennovations.

[1852]  It appears the warrior ethic is is no longer valued in the classroom.

[1853]  The Master of the Sword should not be a female.

[1854]  1. Method of choosing branches on graduation. 2. General image of laxness. 3. Too many "permanent" associate Professors and "civilianization" of faculty. Need to keep better contact with the "real" army.

[1855]  Perceived lessening of physical requirenments for females at USMA. Pereceived dilution of core academic instruction as a result of offering so many different majors. Pereceived lack of focus as a result of alowing cadets to choose branches other than combat and combat support arms.

[1856]  lack of current knowledge about today's Army and needs in a world vastly different from the Cold War era. Some older graduates in particularly can be harmful to my work in admissions when they discourage females and minorities; I never hear any complaints about athletes however.

[1857]  I'm a little concerned with the approach some have on the question of "Grad School" vs. "current" program. Has AOG positioned itself? Where does USMA stand? All I know about the subject is what I read in Assembly-Grads who differ.

[1858]  Lack of fourth class system

[1859]  I'm a little concerned with the approach some have on the question of "Grad School" vs. "current" program. Has AOG positioned itself? Where does USMA stand? All I know about the subject is what I read in Assembly-Grads who differ.

[1860]  I would like to see USMA maintain as its primary goal the production of regular officers for COMBAT arms leadership - ROTC does a grand job of educating statesmen, administrators, finance experts, and the like. Let them do it...

[1861]  I would like to see USMA maintain as its primary goal the production of regular officers for COMBAT arms leadership - ROTC does a grand job of educating statesmen, administrators, finance experts, and the like. Let them do it...

[1862]  I am concerned about possible efforts by members of Congress to eliminate or otherwise greatly reduce the mission of the Academies. Is there a way that the AOG(s) could collaborate to lobby Congress on behalf of the academies? Most of this is done by HQDA now in the budget process, but the AOG might help in some way.

[1863]  Is it true about beanheads having "stress cards"? If so, the Corps has. I also understand the area is no more. Farewell to the century man, and hail to those of yore.

[1864]  RA Commissioning

[1865]  Not determined at this time

[1866]  Maintain high standards for physical education program. Develop a plan to cut back the size of the corps voluntarily that can be implemented before we are forced to do so by an outside agency. Make sure the honor system is strong and remains so. Provide periodic updates to graduates on the status of this strength.

[1867]  In general, I am happy with direction West Point is headed despite the usual old grad -'the corp has'- concerns. I'll simply refer to my comments in item 18 concerning the increased emphasis and involvement in fund raising by the AOG and again urge caution in this area.

[1868]  regular commissions commissioning in other than the combat arms and that's just for starters

[1869]  I am concerned that is becoming "just another" college. Eventually, I feel this will lead to it's disbandment.

[1870]  Too much opportunity for non-combat arms selection. Too much "Political Correctness", especially with regard to females.

[1871]  Too much opportunity for non-combat arms selection. Too much "Political Correctness", especially with regard to females.

[1872]  women in cadet uniforms

[1873]  I think we should develop physically fit, well trained military leaders. I believe the curriculum should be more focused on military subjects (math, engineering, history, english, foreign languages, international relations and economics.

[1874]  See above

[1875]  1. I learned of the mission-statement refinement process thru my classmate Dave Palmer, a former Supe. I got the distinct impression, which I now learn was incorrect, that participation was limited to current staff and former Supes. I wish I had known that "public" participation was possible, because I have definite views on the topic (which I imparted to Dave Palmer, so all was not lost). 2. a. Hallums was properly dismissed; but he had the right idea, poorly executed. When the Department was called Military Psychology and Leadership, it too tended to be a "milk & cookies" course, more academic "education" than practical "training". The Army needs as many Pattons and Sheltons as it does Bradleys, Gruenthers and Abramses (and Schwarzkopfs, representing a balance of styles); i.e., individualism and offbeat initiative ain't all bad. b. Teach warriorship, but the broad education that "develop[s] the power of analysis so that the mind may reason to a logical conclusion" should remain the primary mission of the academy. To that end, restore academic class rank; and don't force goats (e.g., lower half)into the engineers and signal corps. 3. I understand that, in order to make the USMA experience more like the cadets' future Army experience, USMA has ceased assigning cadets to companies by height. Unfortunately, this causes the Corps to appear on parade just like an active-duty unit on parade -- i.e., scraggly, with flankers loping along and runts stretching to catch up. To ameliorate this effect, parade by battalion instead of by company, with the rank and file arranged to the right front by height, just as the active Army does. To provide for leadership practice to company staffs, and for training and drill competition, parade by company only during the week, when the GAP presence is minimal.

[1876]  Concern for demise of institution for lack of senior leadership support Need for universal uniting of all academy grads to develop a forum similar to "March on Washington" emphasizing need for institutions and ethical standards Focusing the political pressure of retirees and civilian members of academy classes on Washington to fortify support for the institutions now rather than too late!

[1877]  Generally I am happy with the direction of USMA, but I think that fund raising for West Point is going to become a greater and greater issue as the Army goes through further rounds of budget cutting. The AOG (or someone) needs to address the challenge that West Point faces in funding, and we need better representation of West Point to the Congress to insure Army funding does not continue to dwindle. My impression is that the Navy is supporting Annapolis better than the Army is supporting West Point. This needs to be fixed, but only advocacy by graduates can fix it. The Navy seems to make better use of it's grads in "pitching" Annapolis than we do in advocating USMA.

[1878]  -Area tours should be re-instated

[1879]  I cannot comment.

[1880]  Concern about watering down the USMA mission of preparation of leaders for combat by introducing too much humanistic emphasis

[1881]  Leadership is not just a military need but also a community need. We should stress that if the military life ends for you, whatever the reason, graduates still have an obligation to the community.

[1882]  Elimination or lowering of the standards for the 4th class system.

[1883]

[1884]  We are slipping down the slope of not having sufficient differentiation between USMA graduates and officers commissioned from other sources. We have always been in a "no win' situation in that if a high percentage of our graduates succeeded, it is attributted to the "WPPA"; if they didn't, then the thinking was why pay all that money to get the same level of peformance that the Army could get from officers produced from less expensive sources? We need to attract AND RETAIN men and women of character who are differentiated from other officers because they have had the USMA experience. We need to insure that our graduates stay in the service for a "reasonable" period of time. (Maybe 10 or 11 years.) "Reasonable" is from the service's view, not the individuals.

[1885]  Lack of RA commissions for graduates. Lack of mission to train combat leaders. I believe that every cadet should be the same physical strength requirements.

[1886]  If I were concerned how would I input these concerns and to whom.

[1887]  Note comments on the West Point Forum; tremendous worry about the directions previously taken which appear to dilute the rationale for a MIlitary Academy

[1888]  I am concerned that West Point may be losing its military focus. There is a lot of debate on whether USMA is a military academy or an Ivy League university. West Point should produce educated warriors, not academicians. Restoring the warrior spirit to cadets is very important.

[1889]  The usual from cranky old gray hogs....

[1890]  I am unsure of the direction. We need to communicate better with each other. Use of E-Mail could help tremendously.

[1891]  Please see my comments above.

[1892]  Did not like Thayer award recipient. We don't have much of a football coach! Previous 96 season was accomplished in spite of him.

[1893]  There is too much emphasis on athletics, especially with the recent decision to join a conference. West Point is a special place and I believe it is strong enough to stand on its own. The football decision I realize is final, but the line needs to be drawn. West Point is not in competition with the other top notch universities and should not model their programs, to include athletic programs after these other universities.

[1894]  I still believe that women don't belong in the Academy-so does my wife!

[1895]  Again stress opportunities for academic achievement

[1896]  1. The whole issue of women in the Army 2. The needed emphasis on USMA producing combat leaders

[1897]  Quit trying to be an Ivy League clone

[1898]  Need to return to regular commission upon graduation. Set up a separate Academy for females. One for all services

[1899]  WP graduates should all receive active duty commisioning. Reserve commisioning weakens the purpose of WP.

[1900]  I am worried that the Academy may knuckle under to political correctness and compromise its standards instead of remaining a bulwark American values, the warrior ethic and intellectual excellence. I am basing my concern on what I've seen in the Army and that Wall Street Journal article on the battle between the Director of DMI and that Behavioral Sciences professor. On the positive side I am glad the academy will not give tenure to its civilian professors. This alone will keep us ahead of the Naval Academy.

[1901]  I am a little concerned about the curriculum focus at USMA. I am a recent gradaute and junior CPT, however, there are subjects/training that cadets should receive/study before commissioning. Such as a greater emphasis on small unit leadership, the larger role of the Army in national security, a thorough study of the Amry- how it is organized, the study of each Corps, Division, and differing capabilities of each. These are just a few, but basically USMA does not focus as much on the "real" Army as it could.

[1902]  Direction should be toward graduates willing and able to lead and win in combat.

[1903]  Would like to know more about West Point's current leadership development philosophy and programs.

[1904]  Continuing trend in softening military training. Our goal is to produce leaders not politically correct mouthpieces. West Point has turned into a "college" with gray uniforms as compared to a Military Academy.

[1905]  The change from RA commissions to Reserve Commissions

[1906]  The 4th Class System - I deeply believe it should be a right of passage. I agree with many graduates that the last place we want to find out if a person will "fold" under pressure is in combat. USMA needs to ensure it is applying stress to these young men to make sure they will perform under stressful situations.

[1907]  a. USMA badly needs a professionally staffed Development Office. b. USMA should advocate aggressively commissioning of USMA graduates in the Regular Army

[1908]  a. USMA badly needs a professionally staffed Development Office. b. USMA should advocate aggressively commissioning of USMA graduates in the Regular Army

[1909]  I am concerned about the rumor that more civilian instuctors will be assigned to teach. I am concerned about the "civilianizing" of the academy.

[1910]  1. Incorporating too many civilians on the academic staff

[1911]  "Duty, Honor, Country" & "A cadet does not lie, cheat, or steal, or tolerate those who do" are bedrocks which should not have been "modernized". The primary purpose of USMA is simply to develop, train, and provide combat arms officers, not atheletes, medical specialists,transportation officers etc. USMA is becoming more of a college while becoming less of a military academy.

[1912]  I do not have knowledge of the direction in which the Academy is moving. Though I would be a strong advocate against a "kinder and gentler" Academy climate.

[1913]  The supe has become a fund-raiser, which is not good. Every dollar solicited is one less dollar authorized and appropriated.

[1914]  See statement listed within the AOG section. ie: retention rates of recent classes Why are WP facilities supposidly so much worse than USAF and USNA? emphasis on the core values, principles, mission of USMA

[1915]  Descriptions of the issues and policies are so generalized, they are almost meaningless to me. I get the feeling West Point is drifting, trying to discover what it really wants to be, and should be.

[1916]  It is very disturbing that USMA graduates are receiving USAR commissions instead of RA.

[1917]  Recent articles (including one appearing in the Wall Street Journal) indicate an institutional hostility toward faculty/staff members displaying a "warrior" mentality. This, coupled with what seems to be an unjustified preoccupation by USMA with excessive political correctness, does not bode well for an institution dedicated to training officers to lead the Nation's forces in time of war. Restore a sensible balance and keep focused on the need to develop military leaders prepared to cope with the stress of battle.

[1918]  for a while he left emphasis on career in military out of the mission. think he fixed his error.

[1919]  I am concerned that it is necessary to lock cadet doors-it would seem possible to me for thte system to instill a degree of personal integrety which would preclude thievery bvetween cadets.

[1920]  Many recent actions seem to be focused on being politically correct rather than to further the mission of the Academy or of national defense.

[1921]  I'd like to be kept informed of retention rates for both cadets and graduates and statistics on how West Pointers fare in the promotion process in the Army compared to officers commissioned from other sources.

[1922]  ...but there must be a better way to say "consideration of others," unless that is all we really mean. How about "caring for" or "nurturing" others?

[1923]  It appears, as I guess it does to all old grads, that USMA is becoming very liberal.

[1924]  Too much emphasis on comparing USMA to the "Ivy Leagues" We should strive to be compared with the elite academic schools, yet West Point's main focus is supposed to be to win the nation's war, and prepare graduates to be officers. Is discipline going away- no more walking tours. It has never been fully explained why.

[1925]  Except as noted above.

[1926]  I have the impressionthat USMA is trying to become indistinguishable from other colleges. Should this occur, I believe that USMA will perish, and I believe it should.

[1927]  The drift away from a strong orientation to producing officers for a career in the Army. The cadet disciplinary system. The Cadet Honor System. The lowering of standards at West Point. The branching of cadets into virtually all branches. Academic majors program. Expanded civilian faculty. Change in RA commissioning. Mission statement.

[1928]  Want to ensure that WP grads are committed to 5 years and not able to get out under special programs that the Army may offer without CLEARLY having to repay the Army OR serve in a REAL reserve position. Too many of my classmates have gotten out and are not in any way serving the nation. I think many cadets are arriving into the Corps with the belief that this is possible and in fact easy to do (i.e. get out before commitment is over). This is eroding a long tradition of service.

[1929]  Funding as noted above. The expanding scope of activities and academic diversity may represent a shift away from what I believe to be the basic mission of the Academy - to turn out the nation's war leaders. I understand the need to have graduates with solid and well rounded knowledge in broad areas, but the uniqueness of WP is its virtue. It is not just another exceptional academic institution, and should not strive to be one. The focus should always be on the "Military" in US"M"A.

[1930]  Decreasing Plebe requirements (see recent Assembly article on R-Day & response letter)

[1931]  That's a big question and I do not feel familiar enough with all the policies, or the direction the Academy is taking, or the current relationship with DA and the Academy. My guess is that there should be concern.

[1932]  I have a concern that the Academy may be sacrificing some of its military mission to be more like civilian universities, but this perception may be versed on misinformation.

[1933]  Not aware of any

[1934]  I believe USMA graduates should serve only in the combat arms (or at least serve a minimal period, before transferring to other branches).

[1935]  West Point is becoming irrelevant in the Army. There's not enough distinction between officers from WP and any other source of commission. WP junior officers appear as immature as those from any other source of commission, and the notion of service in times of tough, undefined missions and shrinking resources doesn't seem to have been instilled very deeply in the junior officers I see. Many of today's soldiers face vagaries we never did in the Cold War, and I don't think the idea that we serve none the less is very deeply ingrained. Further, the idea that we serve in the Army, and that WP is irrelevant apart from the Army is lacking.

[1936]  1. Commission grads only in combat arms 2. RA commissions at graduation

[1937]  I am troubled by the apparent deficiencies in the physical plant that affect the quality of the WP experience for cadets (e.g., inferior athletic facilities, barracks in disrepair). I also do not like to hear about the "softening" of the fourth class system. True, there were instances of abuse in the past and some parts of the system could have been construed as "games", but there is something to be said about the rite of passage the system meant for so many young men and women. I believe it should have been overhauled, not gutted as it seems to have been.

[1938]  Concern about the SUP not fighting the Reserve Commission Policy, that USMA Grads do not receive Active Commission.

[1939]  Corps too large Graduates do not receive RA commissions Too many electives Graduates should enter Combat Arms

[1940]  USMA (the Supe) should be very aggressive in getting the kind of budget support from Dept of the Army, OSD, and Congress that the Academy needs. Fund raising should not become a primary focus of AOG. The nation should pay the bill for the kind of military academy that it (President, Congress, DOD) feels it needs. AOG should be active in lobbying to support the Supe in this effort.

[1941]  Perhaps a bit too much "progress"....i.e. elimination of AREA FORMATION? Too many civilian instructors. Too much emphasis on feminization of tactical dept. Male Grads should be commissioned in combat arms.

[1942]  1. Need RA commission when support can be gained from DA. 2. Individual Advanced Development programs should be focused on military and physical development only.

[1943]  I'm not sure we need new direction. If it ain't broke, why fix it?

[1944]  Don't agree with the new usma mission statement. It didn't need to be changed. Graduates still must continue to get a regular army commission. Also, there seems to be a continued break with tradition (i.e. doing away with Walking the Area).

[1945]  I don't like the idea of considering Plebes as privates in the Army, an idea attributed to a General Abziad (sp?). I'd like to read more of this. I'm not sure that having one company support thre entire Corps for a period of time eases the out-of-class time burden onPlebes in the designated company.

[1946]  Corps of Cadets should be reduced to 2400.

[1947]  I am concerned about the myriad of extra curricular activities supported by AOG. Are they necessary, productive?

[1948]  The apparent deemphasis of training cadets to be professional military careerists.

[1949]  Cadets should run honor system. I don't like the way its being run now Cadets graduating should be commissioned in the regular army in the combat arms Too many curriculum choices Preparation should be for profession of arms
 

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