Q28: Are there any issues or policies about USMA or its direction which concern you?

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The following are the raw comments collected for this survey question.  The numbers serve only to identify the comment for this question and do not serve any other identification purpose:

[001]  Loss of Regular Commission upon graduation.

[002]  Was unaware that a new Mission Statement was being developed. Was unaware the mission had changed in any way requiring a new statement.

[003]  The lessening of discipline and respect that I perceive occurring among the Corps of Cadets in my contacts with the Academy and my friends still at the Academy. I do not believe this to be "old grad" talk and and I believe this is weakening the fiber of the officers being produced. I do not wish a return to the "Old Corps;" I would like to see an establishment of appropriate standards.

[004]  The new mission statement must clearly state that the Academy's purpose is to prepare officers for the Army, in addition to leaders of character for the nation. Additionally, I remain increasingly concerned that the Academic Board is out of touch with the decline of West Point's image and influence in the Army, a situation which can only be corrected by improved outreach (permanent faculty spending more time in the field; improved instructor recruitment, esp. in seeking and sponsoring good follow-on assignments for instructors; expanded networking on the part of academic departments -- esp with their "alumni").

[005]  There seems to be a preoccupation on making USMA like the "real army". That's like saying we should make the Pentagon like the "real army".

[006]  HONOR-There is a loss of the idea that the Honor Code belongs to cadets. Allowing the Supt. or DOD to override an Honor Board decision tells cadets that they really do not "own" it. Fourth Class System--the system should not be one which abuses Plebes, but I think some recent changes have gone too far. What is wrong with "pinging"? Except for an outstanding victory over Navy, why should Plebes be recognized before Graduation? Area Tours--I think work details are good if they are an occasional option, but they should not completely replace the Area. Area tours were an effective (and historic) punishment; they should not have been changed without a valid reason (and I don't think one was given).

[007]  See item 16.

[008]  Regular Army Commissions are a must!

[009]  I am a bit concerned that the Academy may be going too far in catering to the demands (or perceived demands) of female activists and accepting their accusations without argument. I could be wrong, this impression remains with me from circumstances surrounding the firing of the colonel who headed the leadership department.

[010]  The loss of RA status upon graduation.

[011]  We are trying to keep too many cadets in the Corps. It will bit us sooner or later to keep the Corps at 4,000.

[012]  Out of the loop in terms of direction, so I can not adequately comment.

[013]  West Point is not just another university. "Political Correctness" is dictating its direction and I'm afraid that it will no longer be turning out military leaders who will be able to effectively defend our nation. If there is no disctinction between USMA and ROTC, then West Point will have become obsolete and will cease to exist.

[014]  Emphasizing a lifetime career in the Army is unrealistic, given today's volatile manpower reductions. The meddling with the mission statement is useless.

[015]  Like all old grads, I see a softening of the WP environment which is sometimes reflected in the ability of younger grads to stand up to stressful situations.

[016]  ?????

[017]  As a "grumpy Old Man", I have for years failed to understand the mushrooming of classes and "majors" in various fields of study. As an example, one of the football players was listed as majoring in Engineering Management. What the heck is that?

[018]  With respect to major changes that take place at West Point from time to time, a good commander will solicit as much valid input as possible before making decisions affecting these changes. I cannot think of a better source of professional, knowledgeable input than the AOG, through it's membership. Nobody cares more about West Point than it's graduates!!

[019]  Trend towards a civilian institution. Lack of commitment in recent graduates. Promotion of a military academy concept.

[020]  Am aware that there has been some concern expressed regarding the dilution of the "West Point" experience by having fewer line officers included in the staff and faculty make-up. Don't know how true this may be, but would be very concerned if cadets were not being given the opportunity to learn from such officers since the first few years of commissioned service experience is a critical time for forming the path that new graduates will follow in their ensuing professional careers.

[021]  A trend toward a pure academic institution as opposed to a military academy. Idea is to produce career officers as opposed to Rhodes Scholars and graduate degree holders. The uniqueness of USMA is its difference from the Harvards, Yales, Vanderbilts, etc.

[022]  I've reveiwed the Goals and Mission Statement but haven't formulated an opinion. Can't say I have no concerns or do have concerns - I haven't considered this or discussed with others.

[023]  I'm concerned that we are no longer training military leaders, with an emphasis on combat readiness. We, like so many other institutions seem to be developing leaders for tomorrow .... to few of our cadets see the Military as a profession,... most see the academy as a stepping stone to civilian professional careers. Perhaps we should change the name to the United States "Leaders for the Nation" Academy - USLNA

[024]  I am concerned with making donations an intergral part of operations for the future Once you get this mindset in congress or even in the army leadership - it could be a road of no return whose ultimate destination in unknown

[025]  I agree with the notions that West Point should model the "Army way" of doing things. However, who ever said the "Army way" is the approved solution? Trying to completely mirror the Army I think is a mistake. Trying to make West Point ever more like a college is a mistake. The military everyday life-style I think is more and more absent from the Academy, along with the comradery among cadets that once was much more alive than it is now. Military instruction was always weak when I went through and I think continues to be weak.

[026]  1. Racial quotas for admissions. Quotas ("affirmative action") or any other unconstitutional device which promotes inequility are ethically and morally reprehensible. 2. Degradation of standards within the Corps.

[027]  I think the Academy is getting further away from the former goal/mission of providing officers for lifetime service to the nation.

[028]  Am somewhat concerned about the deterioration of the infrastructure at West Point. Those facilities that are easy for the public to see are fine; however, the delapitated condition of Camp Buckner and Lake Frederick is appalling. AOG should encourage classes to spend money upgrading some of those facilities. Imagine what the $1M being donated by the Class of 74 to the Thayer Walk project could do to renovate Buckner! Need to remember, the scouts carry an impression of West Point home with them. When they see how shabby Lake Frederick is, it gives them a perception that things at West Point may be like cotton candy - pretty to look at, but no substance.

[029]  Concerned about divisions in faculty, staff, alumni on issues such as women, "warrior" culture, etc

[030]  Getting too liberal

[031]  Too much emphasis on academic majors, not enough on Army service

[032]  Fight to keep USMA the way it has been with regular appointments after graduation

[033]  USMA trying to become like the Army or Civilian University.. If it loses its brand image, then why have it... Heard idea of doing away with long gray overcoat and Plebe Parent Weekend. Why not just call us the long green line.

[034]  What is the current mission of the Academy? Is that mission in the best interest of the country? Is the mission being diluted in the direction of decreasing the distinction of the Academy from a civilian university?

[035]  It seems to me that West Point has become a nice college, with a primary purpose of giving cadets a fine education, rather than an academy dedicated to a primary purpose of producing the human raw material that is required for the development of military leaders.

[036]  West Point is becoming too soft -- -- Early plebe recognition -- No Saturday classes -- Less rigorous summer training Stop diluting West Point's brand equity.

[037]  greater influence on morality and defining the meaning of "the harder right instead of the easier wrong" give examples and not let the general decline of morality of the US not taint our unique history

[038]  Fund Raising-most concerned that Congress will say that we don't have to fund the "xyz" project because the West Pointers will raise the money themselves. Now we get into the mess of non-appropriated money vs appropriated money. That has to be handled very carefully lest someone go to jail.

[039]  Think the Supe is making the best of a situation that's not too great - tight funds, denial of regular commissions.

[040]  Honor. Do not agree w/Supe having a veto power over the decisions of the cadet honor board. Honor should be black and white. Not gray. What are comming to?

[041]  This is a poor question, because it implies that you are either happy or concerned. I am not sufficiently familiar with the "issues and policies about USMA or its direction" to say I am happy with the direction of West Point, but , on the other hand, I cannot say I am concerned. From what I have seen and become aware, USMA is still producing fine graduates who contribute to the national defense. What more do we want?

[042]  I am concerned that the Supe wants graduates to make up funding shortfalls with their donations. It does not appear that the Supe takes his case any further than the Army Chief of Staff. He needs to get more closely involved with Congress. If the Supe does not get the funds he needs to maintain and improve the facilities and programs at WP he should take it to Congress and if needed, to the public Supes are on their final assignment----they should all perform their duties accordingly. Stand and be counted------------ The Supe should host one of the CofS, A's 4 star commanders meeting at West Point annually, preferably in the fall. This has been suggested before and not acted on---why?

[043]  Am concerned that the new LTs we are getting in the field are not prepared...many are very immature...require more discipline.

[044]  I sense the Corps and its commissioned staff are more apt to compromise on matters of honor now ... hope I am wrong. I sense that because the raw material "shows up" arguably less interested in honorable behavior, and the Academy wants to remain alive, those compromises are rationalized. Bottom line: "Why should we have a West Point?" will become harder and harder to answer in ways that make sense to thinking taxpayers.

[045]  Ensuring adequate federal funding

[046]  By second hand information (so I may be totally wrong here) I've heard that West Point traditions have been "altered" for this more "politically correct" age. I've been told that the lyrics of Army Blue and Benny Havens have been changed. This is a travesty!! If these songs no longer are appropriate, then let them go to an honorable place in our collective memory, but don't deface them by making them politically correct. I've also heard that "area tours" have been eliminated in favor of "beautification projects" and such. This is a shame. Area tours are the stuff that ties people together and supplies a lifetime of stories. Can you imagine graduates fifty years from now gathering to tell stories about planting flowers?!! I can hear it now...."You think that was tough, one semister, I had to plant 200 tulips!"

[047]  I am concerned that as the Military down sizes and the emphasis turns towards civilian leaders, that we will forget why USMA is the "Military Academy."

[048]  Continued relaxation of standards and privileges for cadets. Too many tenured instructors.

[049]  Again, my concerns are with the Active Military. It's difficult to encourage young people into such a career when quite frankly they can do better in other professions. I even saw an E-Mail from a Cadet's mother about concern over USMA Dental care. (Healthcare.org) Unfortunately I didn't get the full gist of it, and maybe it refered to a transitional overlap.

[050]  Too little military focus Not enough of an all round institution Attrition rate of recent grads is not good Self-less service is not enhanced as a goal Quality of tactical officers is lacking Future of officers who serve at WP is not promising

[051]  USMA needs to be a great academic institution first. Thats how we attract some of the best HS prospects in the country. Currently cadet academic performance is only weighted 55% of their QPA. I believe that is too low.

[052]  Getting away from producing "warriors" and becoming too PC and afraid of the Press. The "Hallums" thing really upset me. He was sent there to do a mission, and then punished for doing it without counseling/support from leaders.

[053]  Hallums affair poorly handled and communicated by the Supe. Mistress of the Sword?? Next it will be Infantry Company Commandtress

[054]  We still seem to be confused about whether we are a "college with a military training mission" or a "4-year OCS." The shifts in emphasis over the years, while perhaps understandable, are confusing.

[055]  Degradation of the 4th Class System Degradation of the Honor System

[056]  I wonder if it isn't time to reconsider the number of cadets. I realize that the plant is there and perhaps it is better to use it to capacity, but a smaller Corps might lead to more excellence and a better reputation.

[057]  I am deeply concerned that those in charge are being led down a "politically correct" path, instead of "choosing the harder right". I strongly oppose the civilianization of the teaching staff and the placement of female officers and civilians in positions where they are not qualified to serve. For example, the DBS&L should be staffed by male combat arms officers who are graduates of West Point with a sprinkling of Annapolis and Air Force Academy officers. Another example is the TAC Dept. TAC officers at all levels should be from the combat arms, be males and be graduates of USMA, USNA or USAFA. Otherwise, we just have another civilian university which happens to sit on a lovely point of the Hudson River and has really neat stone buildings. It's GETTING LATE!!

[058]  Steady erosion of standards to meet the need to crank out graduates to defend USMA budget: Congress's measure of effectiveness is number of graduates divided by annual budget. We have cheapened the process to get more graduates to increase the numerator to avoid cuts to the denominator.

[059]  I have mixed views about the efficacy of the Internet as a vehicle for getting input. This questionnaire is fine. Complaints about how the Supe handled the Professor of Military Psychology and Leadership (or whatever it is today) should not be weighed heavily. The Supe is in charge and has numerous others on the scene to advise him. We have a command structure with, hopefully, competent people in charge. I'm concerned that, if all the solicited and unsolicited views are weighed heavily, we will move toward anarchy. Listen to us old grads shouting, "The Corps has!", but put competent people in charge and support them as they deal with today's issues.

[060]  It does not appear that USMA is preparing each graduate for a lifetime of service in the army. Rather I feel it is just becoming another college. This could lead to the elimination of USMA as an undergraduate institution.

[061]  I'm a little concerned at what I see as a conservative trend in political thinking. Regardless of personal politics, the political arena increasingly has fewer persons with military experience. The officer corps must provide for similar diversity or risk being ignored at crucial times. Just my opinion. And worth about that much.

[062]  TOO much emphasis on the fitness preparation side. West Point should produce leaders for the long term--so intellectual and character develoment must not suffer. West Point need not be a four-year OCS. For example, the fact that the average male cadet can do 88 pushups and female cadets 44 is admirable, but not the ultimate objective. I can't imagine, a few decades ago, an environment in which blood pinnings is an accepted, if unauthorized, occurrence.

[063]  Repeal of the Regular Commission Exclusion Law Too much emphasis by the faculty on rapid attendence at Graduate School, so Cadets don't spend enough time being soldiers, but rather attend graduate school and then serve minimum time and depart the Army for higher paid jobs and fewer absenses from family. The Army needs to convince Congress to raise the pay of the men and women in the Armed Forces. I do not believe women should serve in Combat Arms.

[064]  1) I am concerned about what I can best describe as the civilianization of the academy. I do not consider myself a "hard-core old grad" but I feel that in order to make ourselves attractive to applicants we are watering down the very experience that both the Army and our society needs for our graduates to endure. I can't tell you how much I have come to appreciate what the Academy instilled ever since I became a civilian.

[065]  My brothers and I are fellow grads ('61,'70,'72) as was my father ('38) and we do talk among ourselves reference the direction and scope of training that USMA is offering its cadets. We understand that what w/ dollar constraints and all the "peace loving" politicians (most of whom haven't the foggiest idea of what their military has done and still does for them) wishing to loook like the drastic downsizing of our country's armed forces was/is their idea, that the quality of the military leaders produced by West Point, and yes, the other academies, continues to be the main thrust/goal of the academies. Has West Point ever had meetings of the minds w/ the other academies? We are all on the same high-wire act. Just thought that maybe you'd have thought of something like that?

[066]  I support women in the military and was proactive during my 29 years in the USAF. However , I believe the standards should be the same for both sexes if they are both to be eligible for the same duty. If the standards are not the same, the graduates should be identified by the standard they met and assigned duty accordingly.

[067]  Support from the nation

[068]  Nothing which will ever be resolved in the current political environment

[069]  USMA needs to focus on being a military academy and not a college. We have lots of colleges but only one USMA. The more USMA becomes another college the less relavent it becomes. To keep its place in life I feel that it needs to redirect its efforts towards the production of officers not history or chemistry majors.

[070]  I would be interested in knowing what efforts to instruct cadets about ethics are being taken by the Academy. Considering the disrepute that Lt Flinn brought on the Air Force and the Air Force Academy (in my opinion) I would hope that USMA is presenting a sound course on ethics.

[071]  Feminization of USMA and the Army. Lack of emphasis on the role of warfighter. General lowering of standards (physical, moral, and ethical) to accomodate politically correct outcomes.

[072]  I am concerned that USMA is not providing enough of the senior leadership of the army. We are spending so much effort on academic excellence that it is causing a drift from discipline, military training and standards. We need to return to providing REGULAR ARMY COMMISSIONS, and only in the combat arms.

[073]  I am concerned about maintaining the integrity of the Honor code. I have heard rumors that cadets can be "turned back" even after being found guilty of honor violations and that concerns me.

[074]  In all that I have read or heard about in the past two years, on the net, I am concerned about what I would call the civilizing of West Point to try and become an Ivy League clone. I feel that with the amount of army 2nd Lt slots available that perhaps the Corps is too large. I feel the dimunation of the combat arms requirements is a serious mistake. As I remember, a grad had to serve two years in a CA before a transfer to a CSC branch could be accomplished.

[075]  Believe Duty Honor Country are integral to any expression of the Academy's mission or purpose.

[076]  I comment on those directly as an Academy Professor and will save you the space here.

[077]  The change in commissioning and the trend to change the West Point systems that have existed for years.

[078]  I am concerned about reductions in standards for discipline and too many efforts to go with the political correctness of society and my son's who are graduates in recent years have given me plenty of information on which to base this view.

[079]  1. Abolishment of the 4th Class system 2. Changes to honor code implementation 3. The ever-increasing appointment of faculty members who are not graduates 4. The appointment of a non-graduate woman as the Master of the Sword, a position which is so closely connected with the combat, warrior ethic 5. The general directiion of discarding proven past policies and traditions

[080]  I am concerned that Beast Barracks has lost some of it's toughness.

[081]  Early Out programs for younger Grads Changing DPE requirements Loss of certain USMA traditions

[082]  See comments above

[083]  Degree of emphasis on a military career as opposed to whatever the hell it is they're offering now in the curriculum--trying to outdo USNA & USAFA?

[084]  "Old Grads" are never totally happy with the direction that West Point is heading. While I realize USMA must adjust to stay current with changes in society, I am concerned that the fundamental concepts that have been the bedrock of West Point over many decades are being eroded. I have the same concerns about the Army that today's graduates are joining. I feel strongly that male graduates should join the combat arms for a minimum of two or three years. We have to convince the American public that USMA must be retained as an institution -- that our graduates bring more to the Army than an ROTC or OCS graduate. We can't do that by continuing to become more and more liberal and more like a civilian college.

[085]  Stop being so politically correct.

[086]  Developing a paper

[087]  I believe that the Academy has become too politically correct and has not paid proper attention to the necessities of a "rite of passage" for the plebes.

[088]  grads should be regular officers

[089]  Lack of regular commission. Apparent deempasis on combat arms which are our reason for being. Should offer some form of graduate courses for cadets who come with college credit, but NOT turn USMA into grad school or portion thereof.

[090]  Gradual erosion of the total system; for example, I just heard that now cadets do not have dinner formations, having many different options. I am sure there are other changes which would not impress me, also.

[091]  WARRIOR ETHOS AND HOW TO PROMOTE IT IN A DIVERSE WORLD-ARE WE SUCCEEDING? IF NOT, IT SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.

[092]  RA commissiong

[093]  The Mission! We've gotten too far away from producing leaders for the Army. As a result we are creating young officers with little dedication to the army or their soldiers. We must not forsake quality for quantity.

[094]  RA Commissions. Degree of integration of females. Softening of soldierly virtues. Orientation of newcomers in the academic versus the tactical unit leadership styles. Funding necessary functions by fund-raising.

[095]  I do not support using USMA as a social laboratory. I believe decisions should be based upon how USMA reflects society rather than is the forebearer of social evolution. I recognize changes will occur, but let changes occur to catch USMA up with society rather than the converse.

[096]  I have some concerns that I do not wish to describe in this brief opportunity.

[097]  yes, intersession is a total waste of time. Go back to MS classes being a full year program. You can not teach a semester long course in less than two weeks and expect quality retenion of the material. If that were the case, then why not take physics, or math, or any other academic class during intersession? - - Because the "academcis" that make the rules realize that intersession is a poor quality instructional tool. I am sure there are not too many PAP's that would apporve of their classes being taught on an interssion schedule. In addition to intersession being a poor instructional tool, how / wjhy shoudl we exepct the cadets to have a military focus / committment? In effect, what we say by condoning intersession is that the military classes take a back seat to academics. That is the wrong way to approach military instruction at a military academy. Cadets should have a miltary focus throughout the entire academic year, not just during intersession.

[098]  The corps image athletics discipline

[099]  Am very concerned that West Point is in danger of becoming "just another college." The mission statement is awful, and the dramatic increase in civilian faculty has us well on the way to being another Annapolis of USAFA. We are an academy for the ground combat service -- we MUST have higher standards. Our mission statement MUST reflect producing officers for the US Army. We must NOT produce future stockbrokers and english majors, but well-rounded Army officers.

[100]  I'm a bit concerned that USMA is being "sucked into" the politically correct vacuum. USMA was and should always be about producing military leaders. Any other byproducts (i.e. success in civilian spheres. . .) should be icing on the cake. Don't confuse the icing with the cake!

[101]  The purpose of West Point should be to develop Regular Army Officers who intend to have a career thru retirement in the Army. USMA is not a standard University/College and its standards and original policies should not be changed to succumb to political pressures and why can't we be like other schools.

[102]  Hopless as it probably is, I would like to see the elimination of girls at West Point. I don't think the strength of The Corps should be reduced. Everything else is probably in good hands

[103]  Army may be a fine college, but its image is tarnished by poor performance on the athletic field.

[104]  We need to develop leaders for the Army, period. I sincerely believe we've gotten too soft. Any grad, no matter when they graduated, will tell you "the Corps has...". When I left active duty 6 months ago, I was shocked at the product USMA was sending the active Army; a poor sense of duty and responsibility; little ownership of their actions; soft; poor managers. They seemed to lack the traits that have been the stock and trade of USMA grads.

[105]  I have some nit picks; but am not up in amrms like so many of my classmates. I see most of the Supe's problems coming from inside the DC beltway and from the hinterlands. The Corps may be getting too lax; however. That will be a problem the next Supe will have to solve.

[106]  The mission statement of USMA needs to be discussed further.

[107]  See my comments earlier.

[108]  1. Loss of Regular Army Commissions. 2. Lack of dedication to life time service. 3. Apparent lowering of standards. 4. Lack of Combat arms service requirement. 5. Politically correct approach toward military service.

[109]  We seem to be watering down discipline and the honor code.

[110]  Maintaining the identity of the Academy. Civilianization and elimination of traditions (regardless of weather they be deemed as good or bad, ie Area Tours) continue to weaken the strands of continuity of the Academy thus reducing the common bond. In fact, as a graduate of 1994, I feel that I am an "outsider" when in the presence of prior classes. I have a great respect for the graduates from decades ago which is not the same for present graduates. I wanted to go through a "tougher" program. Too many graduates who do not adequately represent the ideals of the Academy have and will continue to graduate. For example, my roommate at AG OBC ended up being a criminal. He stole a laptop computer, my credit card, bribed an officer, etc. Though he went to Leavenworth, he is now in or out of Graduate school and wearing his ring. I went through Warrant Officer Candidate School in 1988 and became a pilot. They told us that they were going to do in 6 weeks what it takes West Point 4 years to do. I was thoroughly impressed with the program and to this day, it is the toughest program I have ever participated in in my 9.5 years in the Army. I was very disspointed in the degree of difficulty from a military perspective. Diversion from tradition seems to give Congress more and more reasons to eliminate Academy funding since it is beginning to be incorrectly compared to no different than an intense ROTC program. Sorry for rambling, but I know that if I had not experienced some of these bad things, I would have a much stronger feeling of a bond within the corps. Granted, some of the strongest friendships and bonds in my life are a result of my experience at the Academy and I would not trade any of it for the world. However, I feel the bonds have become decentralized to personal friendships more than a centralized corps bond. I would be happy to elaborate on my beliefs. Feel free to call at (617) 868-0094.

[111]  I am concerned about the reduction of the unique "West Point" experience being overtaken by the desire to reflect more of the Army in the day to day cadet life. I'm not happy with what I perceive to be the Administration's desire to make West Point more like an Army unit rather than a military academy. To cite a small but telling example, I don't like seeing the cadets wearing BDUs to class on a regular basis.

[112]  Pursue return of Regular Army commission for graduates.

[113]  I can't believe you would make a statement like "West Point cannot fufill its goal as it is underfunded. West Point needs contributions to meet its goal." If that's the case, close it down.

[114]  Dedication to core (no pun intended) values Maintaining independent non-ROTC program

[115]  The statement draft that I saw was misdirected, in my judgement, by being more directed toward a politically correct approach than being specific about the mision to develop combat-branch officers with deep-seated ethics and a desire for service to teh Nation.

[116]  You have got to be kidding! Not aware? C'mon.

[117]  The lack of focus on combat leaders I am diturbed to see that a large number of graduates leave West Point and are focused imediately on leaving the service. I also see a large number of graduates branching into non-combat arms branches. We need to promote doing the harder right (going into the combat arms, attending ranger school) and not the easier wrong of branching into a CS or CSS role. (Especially male cadets)

[118]  Regular Commissions for Graduates Return of basic curriculum and away from majors Civilian instructors/professors Commissioning in non-combat branches Provide separate Academy for women Reduce size of USMA to fit size of Army

[119]  I do not have enough facts to answer this properly.

[120]  All things that move away from a warrior focus concern me. WP should be producing the Nation's Best leaders for battle. I consider it the Raison d'Etre

[121]  Talking to cadets/graduates of both sexes indicates that the public image that the Corps is fully "integrated" by sex is a sham. We need to face the problems and fix them. I am not as familiar with racial difficulties, but I'd guess they exist, too. Fix it.

[122]  Source of appointments to USMA. Requirements for admission to USMA.

[123]  Increasing use of civilian instructors, and going too far from a basic engineering education, whatever one's specialty.

[124]  I am not sure if the Academy is still instilling the selfless service/warrior ethic in its graduates. I have seen several come through the Ranger School (where I work) that expect the class to be handed to them. There is a not the responsibilites for their own actions I expected to see from Academy graduates.

[125]  Makin sure it stays relevant to the needs of the Army More faculty involvement with mainstream Army

[126]  Don't know where its heading.

[127]  Whatever

[128]  Stop the semantics. Simple and to the point. Why are we changing?

[129]  everything done at West Point conceerns me

[130]  Am opposed to using ANY West Point Fund money for projects which should be supported by appropriated funds. This is a slippery slope which erodes forever appropriated fund support for West Point. NO PROJECT is so important that it can't wait in line for appropriated funding. AOG will get no further contributions from me if it crosses this line.

[131]  losing its unique status as a national asset for graduating leaders with character and devotion to the country.

[132]  The current political and military environment is typical of past peacetime periods. Please do not allow the short sighted to drive West Point into extinction. History suggests that we may someday again require military leaders of high character and ability. Until such time, find any way possible to maintain the capacity to develop leaders at West Point. It is a great program. Our business community is in short supply of the same type of individual demanded in combat. It may be tough to justify the federal dollars, but we can use the grads who do their 5 and drive.

[133]  Increasing civilianization of faculty.

[134]  Why is it OK for everybody to join support branches? Look at the role models the cadets have for their professors and TACs...quartermasters, air defenders, ordnance. What the hell is going on up there? Somebody needs to take a little trip over to Mac statue and read the inscription about how "yours is the profession of arms, the will to win." Let OCS and ROTC worry about supplying the geeks to run the support units.

[135]  I feel that in today's society, a greater emphasis needs to be placed on a person's values. Thus, emphasizing the need for leaders that possess the values desired by the Academy and the Army is an issue that I think should be addressed. USMA must produce men and women who possess inordinate amounts of moral courage and conviction!

[136]  We frequently hear that Congress (and/or staff members) are conerned about cost of USMA and does USA really need the Service schools. Included in these concerns are comments/data that West Point graduates do not provide their appropriate share of senior officers. The image, if not the facts, is that ROTC and other officer sources are providing better senior officers at less cost. If this is not the case AOG should provide hard statisical data refuting and USMA/AOG should get the word out. If this adverse image is correct, USMA with AOG support should determine why this is? There are many AOG members who think the solution is to elimate most electives from the cirriculum and go back to teaching leadeship.

[137]  USMA no longer requires strict discipline - has become "soft". Honor code not rigidly applied. Academics have higher priority than military

[138]  Yes, as mentioned above, the politicalization of the army really got underway during the Korean War and has continued to this day. Viet Nam was a clear example (read "Dereliction of Duty" H.R. McMaster, '84).Of all institutions, USMA must be steadfast and truthful in what it does and how it does it. Duty, Honor, Country doesn't mean much if one then bows to some fashionable political theory that at a later date, on other fields, will bear the fruits of defeat.

[139]  Do not lose focus of the academy. Do not make it into an expensive ROTC. Do not generalize the mission statement, taking away from the founding purpose of the academy.

[140]  USMA must not loosen its regulations to the point where it becomes to easy to compare the freedoms afforded cadets to those of civilian counterparts. Too much freedom begs the question, "Why not just fund ROTC?"

[141]  Not enough emphasis on military service and leadership. Too much on civilian service to the U.S. One can follow the other, but military must have the priority.

[142]  concerned about soldier-scholar vs. techie debate. Seems to be a lack of emphasis on the hard right (duty-honor-country) than the easier wrong (consideration of others, political correctness).

[143]  Like many others, I'm extremely troubled by the revocation of the RA status for all graduates. When you sacrifice four years doing the hardest that the Army has to offer, you should get some reward. Taking away the RA commission sends a signal to prospective candidates that West Point is just another ROTC program.

[144]  See my item #17.

[145]  I am extremely concerned about the few grads who remain in the Regular Army. I went to USMA since I felt (and still do!) that it is the best way to become an officer. The grads I have worked with in the Army either seem to follow that course, or in the great majority, view USMA as a 4 year scholarship to a prestigious college. The recent (beginning when I was a cow) changes in the mission statement only further eviscerate any ideas that USMA is to produce career officers, and not politically correct managers.

[146]  I'm not sure that I agree with the "kinder, gentler" West Point. While I am not the old "Corps has" type, I do know that combat is still a very stressful, ugly affair, and that West Point is still responsible for producing officers to lead our nation in battle.

[147]  Since LTG Palmer was Superintendent, USMA has lost its focus of providing combat leaders to the US Army. Instead we are focused on political correctness of providing weak liberal arts majors and not making it "too hard" for the cadets. We've dropped military science as a part of the normal curriculum, reduced discipline, and created a glorified, over priced ROTC program. We need to get back to focusing on the whole "person", stressing military science, math, and enginering. Otherwise it is only a matter of tie before the taxpayers are convinced they are not getting their money's worth.

[148]  My perception is that USMA is getting away from developing combat leaders and striving for social correctness. USMA should be developing combat leaders-not social politicians.

[149]  Gender inequality - lowered standards for females Racial preferences Non-combat arm assignment at graduation Allowing attendance at medical school immediately after graduation, instead of having the graduate fulfill combat arms service, first. Large number of foreign cadets Allowing sports team participants to have special classes prior to all the other cadets. Allowing cadets to fail courses, and then take remedial classes and graduate later. Drifting away from the main mission of the academy; to train people for combat branches.

[150]  1. Regular Officer status of graduates. 2. Efforts to extend retention of graduates.

[151]  --The cadets need to be proficiently skilled at basic military tasks such as land navigation, marksmanship, small unit mission planning, and decision-making. The Department of Military Instruction should be filled with our best leaders to provide role models and instruction. --The football program is being pulled into the professionalization of Division I college athletics. We should be competing against schools of equivalent size and mission. It is time to produce a winning program at the Division I-AA level. If we insist on playing against Division I universities, then allow athletes to serve their commitments in alternative methods.

[152]  I believe I ahve stated them above.

[153]  Lack of respect for War Heroes cp. Wall Street Journal article within last year describing feminist rout of a Colonel because he was " too macho."

[154]  Fund raising from private sources is likely to prevent adequate funding from DA.

[155]  That present cadets and graduates may not be living up to the traditions established by those in the past. Probably it is "the Corps has" syndrome which is exacerbated by modern communications.

[156]  1-Mission of USMA should once again be to graduate combat arms officers. 2-No graduate should be sent to post-graduate education until they've proven that they have potential by serving at least 3yrs inititial assignment. 3-I am increasing concerned about academy graduates who say they did not realize what would be expected of them after graduation,ie, grad who was doctor and refused to go to Gulf War and later was court-martialed for standing nude in company street in Saudi and recently female grad who placed priority on breast feeding baby over obligation for service. Academy needs redoubled effort to insure cadet fully understand and embrace ideas of selfless service and country before self. 4- No need for grad school at USMA. Plenty of superb schools to provide what we need.

[157]  1. Perceived diminution of the warrior ethic 2. Insufficient focus on combat arms orientation

[158]  West Point is being converted into a typical civilian university with tenure, etc. It is a MILITARY ACADEMY and should be run by compotent military officers at all levels. In the last Army Navy Game I saw no "killer instinct". Where did it go?

[159]  I am concerned over the departure from the time-honored traditions of the cadet experience that have resulted in the respect for the Academy and its graduates in the eyes of the American public and the world. I often wonder if this departure is rooted in the desire to curry favor from the public to prove that we are not as bad as anti-military people claim. It takes a generation to discover if major changes in an educational system have yielded the desired results. Our test comes on the field of battle......a dangerous place to discover that the changes were ill-advised. I am also concerned that if we begin to assume the aura of a civilian college, we may be providing ammunition to those who have been interested in turning West Point into something other than it is.

[160]  Tired of seeing the majority of money raised by AOG going to Sports functions. There are several other cadet clubs and Departments that could use money to further a military education.

[161]  The shift away from strict discipline and commissioning combat arms officers will hurt our military in the long run. USMA should continue to train leaders for our country, but their immediate purpose should be to prepare leaders for our Army.

[162]  For what I know it seems to be heading in the right direction, although I don't think that we are doing a good job at selling its worth to Congress.

[163]  I am very concerned about the perceived (by me) demilitarization of West Point and its apparent concern about being a PC University to the detriment of its role as a producer of COMBAT LEADERS.

[164]  The idea of producing leaders for careers in the Regular Army needs to be revived.

[165]  Male and Female cadets should not be housed together. Training should not be together. They obviously have different capabilities and lowering standards is not a reasonable solution.

[166]  regular army commissions combat arms honor system allowing cadets toparticipate in the mission statement (inmates in control)

[167]  Standards, Standards, Standards - High and equal for all.

[168]  I do not approve with the winter intersession that focuses only on MS 100-400 classes. I beleive that Corps should have military training class all year long. Additionlly, I feel that the Academy is trying to compete with the Ivy leagues schools for canidates instead if canidates that want to serve their country.

[169]  See response to AOG goals question above.

[170]  I am still not convinced that the academic trends toward other top colleges (majors, etc.) is the way to go. Different school, different purposes. Make the academy just like another, but more expensive Harvard/Stanford/Yale/MIT, and it'll lose its reason for being. It may actually go away. If you doubt this, look at the decision to award reserve commissions. I am concerned about the drive in some quarters to create a "graduate school USMA" (see recent Assembly debate.) Don't lose sight of what the academy's for. I'm also concerned that the assignment to faculty at the academy has become a career negative for soldiers attempting to stay in the chase for battalion command. One result is the very high proportion of CSS officers among the faculty. Another is a severe dilution of the "warfighter mentality" that I remember and treasure. Political correctness, as severe at USMA as at anywhere else in the country I have seen, is another result. The cadets are much less fragile than the faculty and administration seem to imagine, or if they're not, they're in for one helluva rude awakening when they get to the Army.

[171]  Concerned about the training being given relative to the role of females in the service. Clearly, there are significant problems in the military today and I am not sure that the cadets are being adequately trained. I was particularly upset when a representative from West Point attended our Founder's Day Meeting and suggested that it was very appropriate to court-martial "whistleblowers." Somehow, I suspect the faculty at West Point may have lost sight of the item we swore to protect and preserve when we graduated - - The Constitution.

[172]  The institution sees itself as more important than the individuals that make it up -- a very un-American idea. USMA is too introspective and self-absorbed; more concerned with self-justification than adapting to the needs of the Army and the Nation.

[173]  We need to Beat Navy!

[174]  Although I have no evidence other than gut feel, I believe the standards at USMA have become lower. I think this stems from the more liberal honor policy that exists now (Class of 78 issue).

[175]  The Army and West Point are drifting away from a war-fighting ethos.

[176]  I understand the Supe's message given to us at our 15th reunion. The money issue is understood given the climate in government today. However, I was somewhat concerned with the move towards a more open campus in overall terms. The Supe's reasoning was the Academy needed to change to recruit cadets more effectively. However, I fear that removing some of the discipline from the Academy may make the Academy just another college. If the Academy loses the distinction of being unique, it also risks losing it's reason for existance. I am not saying that we need to maintain tradition for tradition's sake, but solid leadership training and discipline are what makes West Point different.

[177]  Just the current overall attitude toward the military and the Academy that seems to be coming out of Washington.

[178]  -Elimination of the area as a punishment and replacement with "labor" and other such details (not in favor of it) -Keeping cadet captains above company command in place all year (reduces opportunities of others) -Recognizing Plebes at Spring break ... too early -Optional meals/unlimited fast food availability (loss of comradrie/tradition/nutrition);increase debt -Mandatory charges to cadets for Eisenhower Hall performances when many cannot/do not attend; yet still requiring them to pay for more popular events -Inability of cadets and their guests to get priority for Hotel Thayer seating/reservations on weekends unless they have large groups -Increased use of cadets to do police/clean-up details -Use of the USMA prep school almost exclusively for athletic recruiting and/or minority & regular Army recruiting vice better mix of more talented applicants -Proposed changes in beast barracks/4th class system to eliminate many "traditional" activities simply because they are not directly tied to Army standards and/or activities -Failure to permit cadets to where short overcoats or appropriate warm uniforms to early fall sports and other activities when the weather has already turned cold -Overemphasis on forcing women and minorities into leadership positions vice selecting best qualified -Scramble of the cadets after 2 years (on balance, costs outweigh benefits) -Not permitting cadets to use checks and/or credit cards at the cadet mail room -Elimination of real newspapers to most cadets -Toleration of homosexuality when indications tantamount to "telling" are discovered -Inconsistency in disciplinary practices when such practices affect women, minorities, and/or certain groups such as athletes, emerging or serving leaders

[179]  The need for private funding for cadet activities and facilities.

[180]  Liability of too large a Corps Loss of warrior ethic Impact of women on the institution What happened to the honor code? Declining retention

[181]  This is probably not the forum for this, but.... Not walking the area concerns me. Generally disappointed with the Corps' rendering of customs and courtesies at homecoming this year. I think it is too "progressive". I guess I'm becoming an "Old Grad" after all.

[182]  l. No RA commissions2. Assignment to other than combat arms. 3. optional curriculum. 4 lowering of standards. 5 AND ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT. Civilianization of the instructors. 6. Size of the Academy. 7 Move toward "Joe College" atmosphere--this is slightly different than 4 above.

[183]  In my view, West Point is no longer the United States MILITARY Academy and has NOT been for many years. Poor retention of young fine graduates in the Army coupled with a change in the USMA Mission ("to provide leaders for the Nation") have undermined what used to be the nation's finest MILITARY Academy. I think the responsibility for undermining the MILITARY Academy lies with: *A number of former Supes. *The DA Staff (including the Chief of Staff of the Army) *A consistent "push" to try to keep the size of the Corps of Cadets at the 4800 level when there have NOT been sufficient "ARMY" slots to accomodate all of the fine young men and women who have "worn-the grey" for about the last 20 years. I think the name, USMA, should be changed to: << The United States Leadership College (USLC) >>

[184]  I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE US GOVT WANTS AN ACADEMY TO TRAIN LEADERS FOR THE US MILITARY THEN THEY SHOULD FULLY SUPPORT THE EFFORT IN EVERY WAY INCLUDING FULL FUNDING. dROP THE SIZE OF THE INSTITUTION IF FUNDING IS THE PROBLEM

[185]  USMA needs to train predominantly combat arms officers to win our wars. There is too much of a focus on "Leaders of character to serve our nation." The senior level instructors at the academy need to be MILITARY OFFICERS who have served in senior command positions. How many department heads have ever commanded a battalion?

[186]  The COM talked about the respect training. I think cadetettiquette (sic) is fine and he can spend his time better elsewhere.

[187]  Yes, I am concerned about how well prepared the new Graduates are for life as an officer. I believe that we could help the Supe in developing the necessary programs to develop young officers.

[188]  Encroachment of "political correctness" in policies governing cadet development.

[189]  I am concerned of a general slide away from instilling a warfighting spirit in the cadets. We must produce warriors. It does not matter what sex they are...they must be selfless and combat oriented.

[190]  I am concerned that USMA frads do not receive the initial Regular Army appointment. As a former PMS, a see this as the first step to raising the questions "Why have USMA? Can we do it 'cheaper' via ROTC?"

[191]  - Honor Code: I've heard that some violations within the first two years are dealt with "slugs" as opposed to dismissal. I am (as most graduates are) strongly against any degradation to the honor code and the consequences of violating it.

[192]  I remain very concerned about the implications of mixed gender training within the military at large. Since this issue has been "settled" within our current culture it seems futile to press the point with regard to West Point. Nonetheless the Corps has since 1976, in my Neanderthal opinion, lost much of its potential to prepare and provide combat leaders for our nation. This great loss will not be seen or acknowledged until we need those leaders and they are not to be found.

[193]  the academic cir. "appears" to be continuing to lean more towards liberal arts and away from a solid engineering background

[194]  Concerned with the Admissions process. I hope we do not compromise student quality for political correctness (ie goals).

[195]  Seems that 90% of the grads today are looking to get out at the end of their committment. Hmmm??

[196]  Failure to focus on military aspects of curriculum.

[197]  I believe USMA should refocus on producing warrior leaders.

[198]  Proactive process is bogus. It seems that decisions have been made and than grad opinion sought (manipulated) to support a pre-existing bias.

[199]  RA vs USAR commission; recruiting and admitting athletes who do not meet the standards (academically) for other non-corps squad cadets; minority recruiting as a quota-like system, emphasis on fund-raising over other AOG missions; decrease in internalization of honor concept.

[200]  (1) "Friendly Points" system instituted by DPE this past fall. How it started, how it changed,and how it ended bothered me because of the message it sends cadets. (2) New Cmdt's vision to make USMA like the ARMY. Views that "fourth class system" traditions are outdated and do not add to leadership development are shortsighted and it seems this Cmdt feels no accountability just the desire to change. I have not been impressed with his leadership or judgment.

[201]  I'd like to see curriculum focused on foreign languages, foreign policy, international studies and military studies. USMA cadets should be the be the best LTs in the system because of superior training. I don't think we do that now.

[202]  Not aware of direction, so couldn't comment

[203]  I am very concerned that the AOG and USMA are abrogating the MISSION funding responsibility. My read on the Sup's latest call for Graduate support for construction is that Former Sup's were not diligent in their stewardship of USMA. This is very strange considering the quality of permanent professors, associates, and staff provided for USMA.

[204]  I recently wrote to the Editor of Assembly commenting on an article written in a past issue. The article gave the impression that the disciplinary (Plebe) system is being 'watered down' "The Corps has". I am aware that the 'system', life at West Point, the "West Point Experience" has to change to be relevant to the times, but I am afraid that we may be going too far. I closed my letter with the comment that, if we continue on the current track, West Point may soon be just another college where the students happen to wear uniforms. Graduates before my class had a more difficult life at W.P. than we did, folks who attended after my class ('59) had life easier than we did. I suppose this is normal, but where does it end? West Point grads are supposed to be something special. Why? I always thought it was because of the tough, demanding, regimented life we led as cadets. If this goes away, and it appears that it is, then what is left?

[205]  My experience with recent grads in my last years of active duty was not good. Most were shithouse lawyers who were more concerned with their perceived rights - like an 8 hour workday in a tank battalion - than doing their duty. Current grads are not worth the cost of the Academy.

[206]  It seems that USMA is trying to become a more "mainstream" educational institution rather than setting itself apart as the Nation's Military Academy. Academics at the Academy should be Top-Notch, however emphasis on creation of strong, focused military leaders and a "Spartan" military ethos should remain which causes cadets and the Nation to internalize Duty, Honor, Country. If USMA does not stand out in the crowd, then I do not believe that the American public will continue to support its existence.

[207]  Athletics continues to be a shortfall. The focus on increasing the academic acceptance standards is good, but I do not understand why USMA cannot recruit better athletes. I realize that I have no knowledge about the contracts for the coaches. However, if the contracts are not incentive based i.e. win/loss records; post-season play etc. the contracts should be rewritten. Confident coaching staff should readily accept the challenge since that is what they are requesting of their teams every day. Any coach not interested in a performance contract should be replaced. It just is not good enough to beat Navy in order to keep a job.

[208]  1. I was distressed to see that there is a new Brigade Staff position called the Cadet Respect for Other Captain, or something to that effect. I hope that these values are an integral part of the chain of command, rather than some additional duty or appendage to the chain of command. This is a leadership function, not a staff function.

[209]  The usual old grad complaints about "the Corps has." This is perhaps inevitable considering the requirement to keep West Point a top academic institution at the same time as a training ground for officers.

[210]  All of the Academies will be losing Congressional support in the years to come as the number of veterans in the House and Senate drops to zero. Accordingly, they will have to be able to back up their claims that they graduate the best and set the standard for all officer acquisitions. We cannot claim that at present due to the unhealthy emphasis on Division 1 sports. Let's drop to Division 2 or 3 where we can compete with true student/athletes and not have a large cohort of substandard cadets who are eroding standards for the Academy.

[211]  I am very concerned about USMA. Frankly I am not very sanguine about its prospects. I do not hear any voices that reflect my, and many of my fellow graduates' concerns. I know of no sound reason for changing USMA's mission, etc. Why should cadets go into non-combat arms on graduation? Why are not grades posted weekly for all to see? Why are there different physical standards for male and female cadets? I believe combat is closer to football than field hockey; notwithstanding the "Sunday morning talk show" view that combat is now largely a technological challenge. Enough. Even long retired graduates who share my views are unwilling to speak up.

[212]  I'm am concerned with a small movement within the political world to do away with the academies. The drive is based upon the cost models being compared with ROTC costs. Obviously flawed because ROTC costs only show actual scholarship cost while USMA costs include the associated training costs as well.

[213]  Concerned about increased reliance on private funding. Are we equipped to solicit major sponsorships -- unrecognized sponsorships -- from leading US corporations and wealthy individuals?

[214]  4th Class System Overall discipline of the corps

[215]  For some time now I have gotten the impression that the Academy has been far more succesful in ultimately producing doctors and lawyers. Though these are admorable professions, the purpose of the Academy is to produce exceptionally high quality leaders for the Armed Forces.

[216]  Concerned that USMA may be getting too "politically correct". Admission should be based on level standards, without goals for affirmative action considerations, or other factors. Have heard horror stories about recruited (minority) athletes who could not meet basic academic or ethical standards. We don't need our own USNA stolen car, drug, or sexual harrassment incidents. Admitting quality cadets is still the best way to accomplish the USMA mission.

[217]  Although the Superintendent and the Commandant have been persuaded that the abolition of the fourth class system is justified (and thus they have carefully dismantled most of it), I am unaware of any effort to communicate to graudates other than the staff and faculty why what we endured as cadets is no longer useful (or why what is being done now is somehow better). Perhaps the fourth class system was outdated and deserved to be eliminated, but one clear result of that move is that West Point looks much more like any college ROTC program.

[218]  1. Priority one should be academics. The best way to produce quality leaders is to provide them with the opportunity to learn and grow intellectually.

[219]  This question is misleading. I can have no concerns and still not be happy.

[220]  Political correctness versus what is really best for USMA in the long run.

[221]  I don't have the detail necessary to answer this.

[222]  Keep the program demanding and do not cave in to "politically correct" programs. USMA should create warfighters.

[223]  From what I gather, USMA is trying to have its graduates be leaders in the Army of the future. I believe that USMA is heading in the right direction, is not afraid to try something new, and is willing to make mistakes along the way. I find this refreshing and exciting. An institution that does not change will perish. As long as we preserve our core values, we will continue to be a great institution into the next century and beyond. USMA is changing yet preserving.

[224]  Despite legislation, want to ensure USMA keeps a high percentage of military on the faculty.

[225]  Undecided at this time..

[226]  Civilianization of the faculty shouild not be over-done. The Naval Academy model should not be emulated. USMA graduates will be better imbued with the spirit of the Academy motto if they have the role models found in a military faculty.

[227]  Seems to me that the Supe's principal priorities are on new athletic facilities. While nice to have, this probably is not the highest priority.

[228]  Need better communication about what direction it is really heading. Maybe need to see the staff and faculties goals

[229]  Ongoing viability of USMA.

[230]  o Real or perceived "drift" of the focus of USMA from the needs of the Army to adequately provide for defense of the nation and national security -- too much concern for "politically correct" social engineering policies that detract from the higher purpose of providing leaders for the Army. o The military focus of senior USMA faculty -- Academy Professors and PUSMAs -- losing touch with the "operational Army" and the issues/challenges facing the Officer Corps "in the field."

[231]  The proposed USMA Mission statement is too focused on a career in the military rather than a life time of service to the nation. I did make a career of the military but many of my classmates did not but do great things for our country. Cadets are not mature or knowledgeable enough to decide if a career in the Army is what they want.

[232]  I really only learn of changes at WP from Classmates who are teaching there or have gone back to visit. I would really like more insight on cirriculum, privileges, plebe requirements and just the daily cadet life stuff.

[233]  Yes. We do not academically challenge cadets with anywhere near the same course load today that we did 25-30 years ago. Why? My son at Colo School of Mines, a premier engineering school, requires 169 credit hours and a very demanding curriculm of technological courses to graduate. Why don't we put back into the CLED equation a greater academic load? The Borman Commission and EE302 scandal were 20 years ago. Things have changed in many ways at West Point. The mental stresses on cadets are reduced from prior generations. Cadets graduate with a major with only 130 hrs. Some critical technological courses we used to have crammed down our throats, like it or not (like medicine) are no longer required couses for all cadets (eg.,, thermodynamics and electrical engineering), yet today, technological knowledge is more essential and absolutely required to be a great officer. Cadets come to West Point today, despite tremendous opportunity for exposure to world geography via modern media and computers, yet they have at best a 1950s 5th or 6th grade level of knowledge of the world's countries, oceans, rivers, and mountains. They are not taught world geography. Why not? When they are told they may fight in Bosnia, most do not even know where that country is at. It is attrocious that an officer in our Army and graduate of West Point does not know that Siberia is in Russia, or that El Salvador is in Central America, or that Somalia is on the East Coast of Africa. Graduates of West Point comprise 60% of the Army officers with technical educational backgrounds, yet not one cadet gets even an informal course in the development, engineering, production, fielding and procurement of weapon systems in the overall Defense Acquisition process under which we equip and arm our Armed Forces. They need a course in Defense Acquisition as part of nearly all engineering majors and fields of study. In today's world, it is essential that our officers be able to communicate effectively with allies, negotiate with enemies and host nations, yet our cadets have less than 1/2 the class time and exposure to formal language training today than they had just 25 years ago. You cannot learn a language in just 80 hours of instruction. Cadets must be required to take two years (12 hours) of a language. Virtually all liberal arts degreed programs at the best universities require three years of their graduates and most of them will never travel or live in a foreign country. Everyone of our graduates deploys oversees and lives or dies in many foreign countries as part of their mission. Lastly, I am concerned about the example we set for cadets when the Academy publically provides special privleges and VIP treatment, especially at football games to big dollar donors and often shun the COLs and LTCs who have given 22-30 years of selfless service to the Army in what one would think is the role model for cadets. What is the message we send when cadets see that treatment of the 3-5 year Army service grad who goes out and makes lost of money while his or her classmates devote their lives to the betterment of the Army. Do we ever tell cadets those officers are to be emulated? Just becasue they are not generals does not mean they are not what we want future cadets to be like. I would rather see us promoting those guys as the model instead of the rich guys who left the Army early because it not pay them enough or becasue they were not generals or colonels in 3-5 years. Most of those guys got out ot the Army because they could not be great company commanders. Why should we treat them so special in front of cadets now that they are commercially successful. How often does a passed over major or LTC get invited to the Loge or to one of the formal tailgates to "mix" with cadets and senior leaders? (never)

[234]  The mission (in today's world) must emphasize "building leaders for the nation" as opposed to just the military. We all understand many grads leave after their commitment. But even graduates that are "lifers" staying in 20-30 years enter civilian society in the prime of their lives (42 - 52 years old). They must understand more about how their leadership talents could/should be used outside of the military to benefit the nation. We all subliminally know this.... but we need to cull it out, and educate our cadets on this phenomenon from day one. Their expectations of leadership do not end when they take the uniform off.

[235]  I am concerned that our efforts at getting out the word that USMA now needs financial support is not going well. I have heard from some classmates that their societies feel that USMA needs to do some belt-tightening before they will give money. I know that USMA has already done that, but apparently that word is not getting out.

[236]  Strategic planning Role of football in USMA's self-image Physical plant problems

[237]  Quite candidly I am concerned that a West Point graduate is not availabe to head up OPE. By selecting a Non graduate to me says that in today's Army there is not a graduate qualified for the job and I do not believe that!

[238]  I am concerned with any mission statement that does not include words such as "a career in the Army - or other US services." We are graduating too many lawyers, gynacologists, brokers - and not enough soldiers. I am also opposed to the culture that says women should be in combat. I do not oppose women in the service and, in fact, I worked for a very professional female MG in the Pentagon in the 60s.

[239]  1. Bowing to "politically correct" organizations to make West Point more "sensitive" of "diversity." 2. Gender-norming. 3. Loss of "warrior culture."

[240]  The general trend appears to lose sight of the Academy as extreme of training and character. Attempts to make training and atmosphere 'more Army-like' is a travesty. Unfortunately, the Army does NOT constitute a high level of integrity and professionalism as a whole. By becoming overly concerned with an all-inclusive policy and 'recycling' cadets, and by obsessing on 'consideration of others,' the Academy is becoming a management school, not a leadership school. A leaders, not necessarily all commanders, know the importance of respect being accorded to all soldiers, and the requirement to hold himself (herself)to a higher standard. All too often, being accepted and a 'buddy' has surplanted the 'harder right.' Reports of honor ambiguity (such as bed stuffing)relate a lessening of the high standard of integrity that the Academy should be espousing. Irrespective of the cost involved or the 'self-esteem,' more cadets should be separated for not meeting the standard, not given multiple chances.

[241]  Is this the third change to the mission statement???

[242]  Yes, but I think they are not addressable by the academy.

[243]  o the loss of traditional "cadet life" in lieu of: relaxed privileges, o less military training courses during the year ( I understand the old tactics course is now a several week block of instruction during the year) o too great of an influence by non-comms

[244]  Differences in standards between genders of Cadets Lowering of dicipline standards for Cadets Weakening of the diciplinary system Differences between West Point Cadet experience and the Army experience. i.e. no daily unit PT, regular range fires, regular field excercises I did more time in the field at ROTC than I did when I was a WP Cadet (yes I did both programs)

[245]  I wish you had a list of the major points that the Supe is trying to accomplish in this survey.

[246]  1. Emphasis on retention at USMA dilutes the quality of our product. 2. Emphasis on retention in the Army as measure of success is silly given the Amry's desire to not have people stay in.

[247]  i'm probably not as familiar as i'd like to be with the process. however, i am quite pleased with the direction the Army has taken in the past 10-15 years.

[248]  Funding Academic Chairs particularly in Leadership

[249]  Overall I'm happy with the direction, but feel it needs better communication to include some debate in the Assembly. Just because the Supt, Dean etc. say so doesn"t sway the old grads.

[250]  Standards of Cadet Discipline

[251]  Not educated enough to make a judgement

[252]  Despite denial, there is still suspicion that the Master of the Sword selection was political and that the chosen candidate did not apply but was solicited.

[253]  sounds like again, they do not really acknowledge the fact that many grads can make a contribution to the civilian sector. Of course, the goal is to stay in and serve the US through a career in the Army, but not everyone can be a general, etc. Let's just get our head out of the sand. It is still worth it for the academy to have a grad for 5 years of military service, and then for a lifetime as a steward of the education he/she received.

[254]  Put the military back in Military Academy, to include 4 years of MS classes.

[255]  Moral values, ethics, and the desire to get ahead vice serve the country and the troops in the best possible way no matter what the sacrifice. The "young" graduates I've met don't seem to have the character to stand up and be counted and are not risk takers ie they take "...the easier wrong rather then the harder right." That's obviousily a personal opinion from limited observation.

[256]  Loss of the Warrior Spirit in the Corps

[257]  The limited amount of active duty time being required of some graduates is disturbing.

[258]  Increasingly lax direction/focus towards/on discipline in the Corps of Cadets.

[259]  See comments above. We really need to refine our vision of USMA's unique contribution versus the cost. This is no longer clear.

[260]  I would like more information upon which to base an opinion.

[261]  I think that the degredation of the 4th class system is dangerous and sad. I'm sure that this is not a unique opinion.

[262]  Women at WP Type of degree (what was wrong with Civil Eng ?) Combat arms vs anything else

[263]  Is there a mission statement (i.e. Hype-less, non fundraising bull) of these changes? I think the cadets need some civilian job hunting skills provided before graduation, and possibly these should be funded by AOG, and taught by AOG volunteers.... a series of representatives from different industries plus a few recent and old grads mixture for balance would be ideal.

[264]  Movement away from a single 'Core' academic program to a laundry list of electives. Elimination of the requirement that graduates serve in the combat arms. Apparent efforts to maintain the size of the Corps beyond the need of the Army for career officers.

[265]  Supe's suggested mission statement may set up USMA for publicly perceived failure by saying that the mission is to insire cadets to a career of service in the Army. Most don't serve a career and so many even get out before 5 years!

[266]  1. Moving away from a rigorous science/engineering curriculum to more liberal arts oriented majors. 2. Reducing the rigor of beast barracks. 3. Expansion of priviledges in all classes at the cost of discipline as an aspect of daily life. 4. Encouraging pursuit of studies that are more oriented to civil pursuits than service in the Army at the entry level and even beyond.

[267]  I think that the political correctness is pervading and going too far.

[268]  I haven't been following this closely so it's difficult to say whether I have any concerns.

[269]  adequate emphasis on ethical conduct; not just avoiding honor violations or demerits. closer contact between cadets and graduates, other than those at west point; perhaps during reunions, etc. I believe that cadets would find the range of accomplishments and the quality of the people to be inspirational.

[270]   We should be concerned about keeping the Corps of Cadet size constant despite a reduction in the overall Army troop strength.  We should work to reduce the required service time after graduation (graduates should want to stay in the service because of it's high quality not because of a legal contract)  We should work to return RA status to all our graduates.  We must support the Superintendent in improving our athletic facilities so they are the best available.

[271]  In reading the comments on the Forum, I believe there are others who will put forth more elequently than I, the reservations I have toward the present direction that West Point is heading. Suffice to say that I think the non-academic portion is dumbing down to the current level of the GAP and I think it is a violation of everything West Point stands for.

[272]  Will followup by letter

[273]  Yes, Failure of the USMA administration to support the repeal of the law denying regular army commissions to academy graduates upon graduation!!!!

[274]  The closer West Point becomes to a civilian ROTC program the harder it is to justify the expense. Over my 40 years since graduation I have watched the decline in discipline of the Corps and the relaxation of demands upon Cadets time. Firsbee and cookouts in Central Area reflect this decline. The elimination of punishment tours is another indication of change. I will wait and see about Conference USA, but the performance of Army football in 1997 leaves alot to be desired. What happened to the "fields of friendly strife" I can answer this in a more informed way after our 40th Reunion in May.

[275]  Beast Barracks is becoming too "politically correct." The new cadets were trucked out to Camp Frederick instead of marching. The previous two female Commanders of Beast (officers not cadets) were unsuited to the task--not grads and made decisions without understanding consequences. The new Commandant has declared Plebe duties (mail, laundry, newspaper delivery, calling minutes, etc.) to be personal services and intends to stop them. There is no "pinging" currently -- what will constitute a 4th class year?

[276]  The general direction is of concern. Fund raising at the top of the list. The "brochure" put out to justify fund raising was very poor. May need a new Supe and a new team to get the mess cleaned up. Do we need to cut staff in AOG??

[277]  As always, USMA reflects changing US defense requirements. The dilemma: retain core values while planning for the inevitable end of the single-Service alignment of it and the other Service Academies.

[278]  Very few grads are serving out full careers (20-30 yrs) in the active Army. I think this is one source of criticism of USMA's relevance. If the downward trend continues, I'm afraid it will be fair to say that USMA has failed the nation.

[279]  MICHIE STADIUM SKY BOX PROGRAM AND ATHLETIC OFFICE FACILITIES

[280]  very concerned with: - increasing population of civilian instructors at USMA - graduates receiving Reserve Commissions

[281]  I think USMA should focus more on developing officers for the combat arms. The experience there should be the place to train the best combat officers. Other branches can be filled from other commisioning sources.

[282]  The one area I am concerned about, based on what several of my Lieutenants have said, is that as more and more emphasis is placed on education and concern for others, less and less time is paid to the development of the warrior spirit. The bottom line of USMA is still to develop value-based leaders--who have the will to win. I am saddened by the numbers of great leaders that have stacked arms in the last few years. I know that is inevitable in a drawdown force, but we must never lose sight of the fact that there are still battles to be won. I hope that those who make the decisions include the emphasis on the Never Quit and Can Do attitude--throughout a career.

[283]  Concerned that tha Academy's conceswsions to the popular trend toward political correctness may compromise focus on winning wars

[284]  ...for a lifetime career as an offier of the Regular Army--that's where we should go---who are we kowtowing to ,to change this?

[285]  1. Policies seem designed to appeal to current trends, jargon, and politics -- this may have always been the case. 2. IMHO policies should be anchored in bedrock and not subject to compromise or temporizing.

[286]  1. Availability to cadets of guidance, counseling and instruction on moral behavior of military leaders. 2. Tactical department oversight of upperclass interaction with and influence on 4th class... my concern is that impressionable plebes will pick up and pass on inappropriate leader behaviors, much as an abused child tends to later become an adult abuser. This issue overarches class year, gender,and generation at USMA in my opinion.

[287]  i am not certain that the evolving mission of the USMA is good for the long-haul. I understand the need to evolve, but it seems like the focus is being diminished.

[288]  1. I am concerned about the policies that have been implemented by certain engineering departments that erode academic and military standards. It appears to me that the Department of Systems Engineering uses low academic standards and easy course material to try to compete to get the maximum number of cadets to sign up for areas of concentration and fields of study. These large numbers of cadets ultimately entitles the department to a larger faculty and more influence in the academic circles of the Academy. However, it fosters an attitude among cadets that standards are not important. Most cadets feel that they are entitled to at least a C minus grade just for showing up to class on a daily basis. An analysis of grades awarded by the department will probably show that this cadet attitude is not unwarranted. 2. I am concerned that the Academy is trying too hard to protect the cadets from themselves, especially when it comes to potential honor violations. For example, there was an honor case where a cadet allegedly cheated on the two mile run, but was found not guilty. The finding may have been flawed, but it does not warrant the knee jerk reaction of changing the two mile run route to make it harder for a cadet to cheat.

[289]  Quality of graduates

[290]  There are entirely too many majors and courses offered that have nothing to do with a career in the Armed Services. A waste of money and slots.

[291]  Quit telling us all is hunky dory there as far as developing a military cadet. It ain't Tell us more about the rundown of facilities so we know what needs letter writing help to the cretins in Congress.

[292]  I lack a strong sense of how the Academy will survive, much less thrive, between now and the next national mobilization. Perhaps this is understood by all other grads but me...

[293]  I guess, like many graduates, I worry about standards slipping with the new four calss system, versus the fourth calss system. Working under extreme stress was something that I learned at the academy and something that I used during my service in the army. I hope that new graduates will still have that ability!

[294]  Same old thing--'progressive' change is good...be careful not to erode any of the traditions.

[295]  The USMA is a federal institution and as such should be governed and administered by the American People rather than a select group of graduates.

[296]  Please continue to emphasize and communicate a high level of academic excellence. The "B.S" degree from USMA should continue to command respect in terms of the highest possible intellectual standards.

[297]  There should be fund raising for non-appropriated activities only. There needs to be more focus upon CADETS, the purpose of the institution.

[298]  NO more area tours??? I disagree with this direction.

[299]  1. Integrating Consideration of Others continues to be very important. Continued emphasis on Schofield's Definition of Discipline. 2.

[300]  I'm concerned that a relaxing of the fourth class system and cadet regulations in general, might take away from the spartan nature of the West Point experience. The more we emulate and venerate the atmosphere and freedoms of a "real" college, the more we risk becoming one.

[301]  How do we define and measure mission accomplishment & progress? What are examples of progress? Who agrees w/ these measures? Have the ideals taught at West Point changed within the grads? How would you measure this?

[302]  I am very concerned that WP is on a slippery slope with all this emphasis on outside fund raising.

[303]  I am concerned that the mission of the Academy will be adversely impacted by recent emergemce of political correctness. Sensitivity towards others is very important but overemphasis detracts from learning to work together and in some cases further separates groups

[304]  Concern about combining all academies into one commissioning unit or doing away with the academies as a result of the thought that ROTC is just as good.

[305]  I have become disenchanted with the TQM process. Primarily because of all the "hype" Successful mission statements almost always bubble up and can easily be heard by those who listen. Organised Mission Statements seem to give you the kind of mission statement the organization wants to ratify its existance.

[306]  Should re-institute regular commissions for graduates.

[307]  I get the feeling that the courses are being watered down to the point that the students do not have to take the "hard" courses. My experience has been that the study discipline of the "hard" courses have been what has made the West Point education far above the norm.

[308]  1. Women at West Point..low standards...quotas. 2. Current lack of structure and discipline. It has become a coed university in uniform. 3. Too many cadets for today's requirements. Go back to 2400 until needs increase. 4. No regular commissions for grads...incredible!! 5. Academic offerings too diverse. USMA seems to be trying to compete with major civilian schools. It can't, and shouldn't be trying. 6. USMA should be focusing on graduating CAREER minded COMBAT soldiers, not academicians nor combat support people.

[309]  Maintain the original ideals established long ago. I believe the United States' Constitution and Bill Of Rights are slowly being changed by society and ideals are being compromised. I do not want to see that happen to USMA. Restating a mission is a powerful act and can not being taken lightly. Be steadfast in duty, honor, country.

[310]  Degeration of Training ie,termination of military tng of serving penality tours marching on the areaand the rapid delution of the plebe system

[311]  USMA must somehow deal with the problem of where graduates' focus lies - the Army or elsewhere. I don't feel that subject is taken as seriously as it needs to be.

[312]  I believe we are headed down the wrong avenue with our attempts to main stream the Academy into looking more like a "civilian" institution. Maintaining a highest standard of excellence in every aspect is what seperates West Point from all others!

[313]  I think we need to get back to basics of providing officers to the U.S. ARMY. Everyone shpould do at least one tour in a combat Arm. Medical School, Law School etc. should be delayed until after a first tour in the Army.

[314]  Changes, changes, changes Col Hallums (we have no input to weigh) Mistress of the Sword (another bomb dropped without warning) Educational priorities RA Commissions You want more?

[315]  General agreement; however, there seems to be too much emphasis on political correctness and "warm fuzzy" leadership.

[316]  Changes, changes, too many changes, all sprung upon us without warning. Each Supe does his little things, but the sum over the years is horrendous. Col Hallums (we have NO evidence to weigh) Mistress of the Sword (Another bomb dropped wihout warning) Priorities for Cadet time. Is the USMA "just another Ivy League school"? Is that the intent? And there are more.

[317]  Se earlier response above regarding priorities...

[318]  The Academy has become so politically correct it is disgusting. Graduates currently serving as instructors do not support the direction of the Academy and actively work against the direction of the current superintendent. New graduates lack the level of integrity and dedication normally observed in USMA lieutenants. I commanded for over three years, during which time the reputation of USMA graduates significantly declined due to poor performance by junior officers. More than one USMA lieutenant was relieved for leadership/integrity deficiencies. The Superintendent constantly points out the high graduation rate for cadets. To me that shows a weakness--we are not weeding out poor performers early on. The Academy will deny this, but I have seen it first hand as a line commander in a combat unit.

[319]  Loss of focus on military training and too much increased emphasis on academics. USMA is a military school first and academia second.

[320]  I share many concerns but lack factual data to comment. Perhaps the USMA product is really much better than it once was. I am willing to assume so.

[321]  current commandant's zeal in making west point more like the army in my view is a mistake. we should be trying to make the army more like west point. i believe by trying to change west point to be more like the army we will be losing much of what has made west point special--instead we appear to be on the road to being an expensive rotc experience for the cadets.

[322]  It is my understanding that, under the current version of the honor code, a cadet's honor may be used against them. For example, in ancient days of yore, a cadet could not be asked a question regarding a minor infraction and forced to choose between a few hours on the area (or perhaps many hours) and a violation of the honor code. I understand the need for efficiency in the operation of the Tactical Department, but our judicial code prohibits requiring someone to incriminate themself. Had this been the practice when I was a cadet, we would have all been mince meat for having stolen the tank and driven it through the senior officers' housing area on the way to the front of Washington Hall!

[323]  Too much diversity in the education. Too much straying away from the old mission: a lifetime career as an officer in the Army.

[324]  Sad football team this year "Sensitivity training" sounds BOGUS Plebe English is no longer tough enough; they should be responsible for training writing skills

[325]  It seems to me that with an anti-military president, the Point would lose it's importance. Is there any way to prevent this from happening? For example, going "private"?

[326]  Insufficient informatino to answer.

[327]  Cadet training needs to improve in etiquette. I am amazed that 2LT West Point officers sometimes appear unaware of basic officer qualities. A West Point officer needs to set a standard of excellence - there appears to be a trend to "fit in" versus chosing the harder right. Note I am aware that society as a whole is less concerned with etiquette, but I do not accept that as an excuse to lower expectations of West Point officers.

[328]  I think our new focus give those who want to close the academy a strong foot by focusing our efforts on becoming a military officer. With so many changes in the "system" the focus need to be developing leaders for our country either in the military or civil service.

[329]  I'm slightly concerned about the ability of the academy to attract quality civilian faculty without offering tenure. I understand the downside of tenure, but we need to ensure that we are not getting the mafginal academic performers that cannot get hired at civilian universites. I am not calling for a change in policy at this point, but I do think a very honest appraisal of the quality of the civilian faculty should be an ongoing process and if poicy needs to be adjusted to ensure high quality the various option, including tenure, are given full consideration. I also understand the ongoing efforts between the Dean's office and Milpercen to attract quality military faculty and I applaud these efforts. I am somewhat disturbbed, howeve, by what I am hearing from junior officers, i.e., that Academy faculty time is looked upon as being less than career enhancing. I understand that the tight competition for bn cmd and the dictates of the Goldwater-Nichols act have made timing of grad school & Academy faculty time very dicey. What can/should that Academy and theArmy at large do to counteract this? Not sure, but think the issue needs to be out on the table. The bottom line is that the Academy pays back the Army ten-fold for the time given up to get a grad education and teach.. This payback comes in the form of increased capabiolity, and NOT just for academy graduates. Perhaps we need a pr campaign that highlights the contributions of former Faculty members to the Army and the Nation. I think the history and Soc depts could offer a lot here, but I'm sure the other depts could help as well.

[330]  Combat arms for women graduates; more strenuous program for women undergraduates.