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The following are the raw comments collected for this survey question. The numbers serve only to identify the comment for this question and do not serve any other identification purpose:
[001] Loss of Regular Commission upon graduation.
[002] Was unaware that a new Mission Statement was being developed.
Was unaware the mission had changed in any way requiring a new statement.
[003] The lessening of discipline and respect that I perceive occurring
among the Corps of Cadets in my contacts with the Academy and my friends
still at the Academy. I do not believe this to be "old grad" talk and and
I believe this is weakening the fiber of the officers being produced. I
do not wish a return to the "Old Corps;" I would like to see an establishment
of appropriate standards.
[004] The new mission statement must clearly state that the Academy's
purpose is to prepare officers for the Army, in addition to leaders of
character for the nation. Additionally, I remain increasingly concerned
that the Academic Board is out of touch with the decline of West Point's
image and influence in the Army, a situation which can only be corrected
by improved outreach (permanent faculty spending more time in the field;
improved instructor recruitment, esp. in seeking and sponsoring good follow-on
assignments for instructors; expanded networking on the part of academic
departments -- esp with their "alumni").
[005] There seems to be a preoccupation on making USMA like the "real
army". That's like saying we should make the Pentagon like the "real army".
[006] HONOR-There is a loss of the idea that the Honor Code belongs
to cadets. Allowing the Supt. or DOD to override an Honor Board decision
tells cadets that they really do not "own" it. Fourth Class System--the
system should not be one which abuses Plebes, but I think some recent changes
have gone too far. What is wrong with "pinging"? Except for an outstanding
victory over Navy, why should Plebes be recognized before Graduation? Area
Tours--I think work details are good if they are an occasional option,
but they should not completely replace the Area. Area tours were an effective
(and historic) punishment; they should not have been changed without a
valid reason (and I don't think one was given).
[007] See item 16.
[008] Regular Army Commissions are a must!
[009] I am a bit concerned that the Academy may be going too far
in catering to the demands (or perceived demands) of female activists and
accepting their accusations without argument. I could be wrong, this impression
remains with me from circumstances surrounding the firing of the colonel
who headed the leadership department.
[010] The loss of RA status upon graduation.
[011] We are trying to keep too many cadets in the Corps. It will
bit us sooner or later to keep the Corps at 4,000.
[012] Out of the loop in terms of direction, so I can not adequately
comment.
[013] West Point is not just another university. "Political Correctness"
is dictating its direction and I'm afraid that it will no longer be turning
out military leaders who will be able to effectively defend our nation.
If there is no disctinction between USMA and ROTC, then West Point will
have become obsolete and will cease to exist.
[014] Emphasizing a lifetime career in the Army is unrealistic, given
today's volatile manpower reductions. The meddling with the mission statement
is useless.
[015] Like all old grads, I see a softening of the WP environment
which is sometimes reflected in the ability of younger grads to stand up
to stressful situations.
[016] ?????
[017] As a "grumpy Old Man", I have for years failed to understand
the mushrooming of classes and "majors" in various fields of study. As
an example, one of the football players was listed as majoring in Engineering
Management. What the heck is that?
[018] With respect to major changes that take place at West Point
from time to time, a good commander will solicit as much valid input as
possible before making decisions affecting these changes. I cannot think
of a better source of professional, knowledgeable input than the AOG, through
it's membership. Nobody cares more about West Point than it's graduates!!
[019] Trend towards a civilian institution. Lack of commitment in
recent graduates. Promotion of a military academy concept.
[020] Am aware that there has been some concern expressed regarding
the dilution of the "West Point" experience by having fewer line officers
included in the staff and faculty make-up. Don't know how true this may
be, but would be very concerned if cadets were not being given the opportunity
to learn from such officers since the first few years of commissioned service
experience is a critical time for forming the path that new graduates will
follow in their ensuing professional careers.
[021] A trend toward a pure academic institution as opposed to a
military academy. Idea is to produce career officers as opposed to Rhodes
Scholars and graduate degree holders. The uniqueness of USMA is its difference
from the Harvards, Yales, Vanderbilts, etc.
[022] I've reveiwed the Goals and Mission Statement but haven't formulated
an opinion. Can't say I have no concerns or do have concerns - I haven't
considered this or discussed with others.
[023] I'm concerned that we are no longer training military leaders,
with an emphasis on combat readiness. We, like so many other institutions
seem to be developing leaders for tomorrow .... to few of our cadets see
the Military as a profession,... most see the academy as a stepping stone
to civilian professional careers. Perhaps we should change the name to
the United States "Leaders for the Nation" Academy - USLNA
[024] I am concerned with making donations an intergral part of operations
for the future Once you get this mindset in congress or even in the army
leadership - it could be a road of no return whose ultimate destination
in unknown
[025] I agree with the notions that West Point should model the "Army
way" of doing things. However, who ever said the "Army way" is the approved
solution? Trying to completely mirror the Army I think is a mistake. Trying
to make West Point ever more like a college is a mistake. The military
everyday life-style I think is more and more absent from the Academy, along
with the comradery among cadets that once was much more alive than it is
now. Military instruction was always weak when I went through and I think
continues to be weak.
[026] 1. Racial quotas for admissions. Quotas ("affirmative action")
or any other unconstitutional device which promotes inequility are ethically
and morally reprehensible. 2. Degradation of standards within the Corps.
[027] I think the Academy is getting further away from the former
goal/mission of providing officers for lifetime service to the nation.
[028] Am somewhat concerned about the deterioration of the infrastructure
at West Point. Those facilities that are easy for the public to see are
fine; however, the delapitated condition of Camp Buckner and Lake Frederick
is appalling. AOG should encourage classes to spend money upgrading some
of those facilities. Imagine what the $1M being donated by the Class of
74 to the Thayer Walk project could do to renovate Buckner! Need to remember,
the scouts carry an impression of West Point home with them. When they
see how shabby Lake Frederick is, it gives them a perception that things
at West Point may be like cotton candy - pretty to look at, but no substance.
[029] Concerned about divisions in faculty, staff, alumni on issues
such as women, "warrior" culture, etc
[030] Getting too liberal
[031] Too much emphasis on academic majors, not enough on Army service
[032] Fight to keep USMA the way it has been with regular appointments
after graduation
[033] USMA trying to become like the Army or Civilian University..
If it loses its brand image, then why have it... Heard idea of doing away
with long gray overcoat and Plebe Parent Weekend. Why not just call us
the long green line.
[034] What is the current mission of the Academy? Is that mission
in the best interest of the country? Is the mission being diluted in the
direction of decreasing the distinction of the Academy from a civilian
university?
[035] It seems to me that West Point has become a nice college, with
a primary purpose of giving cadets a fine education, rather than an academy
dedicated to a primary purpose of producing the human raw material that
is required for the development of military leaders.
[036] West Point is becoming too soft -- -- Early plebe recognition
-- No Saturday classes -- Less rigorous summer training Stop diluting West
Point's brand equity.
[037] greater influence on morality and defining the meaning of "the
harder right instead of the easier wrong" give examples and not let the
general decline of morality of the US not taint our unique history
[038] Fund Raising-most concerned that Congress will say that we
don't have to fund the "xyz" project because the West Pointers will raise
the money themselves. Now we get into the mess of non-appropriated money
vs appropriated money. That has to be handled very carefully lest someone
go to jail.
[039] Think the Supe is making the best of a situation that's not
too great - tight funds, denial of regular commissions.
[040] Honor. Do not agree w/Supe having a veto power over the decisions
of the cadet honor board. Honor should be black and white. Not gray. What
are comming to?
[041] This is a poor question, because it implies that you are either
happy or concerned. I am not sufficiently familiar with the "issues and
policies about USMA or its direction" to say I am happy with the direction
of West Point, but , on the other hand, I cannot say I am concerned. From
what I have seen and become aware, USMA is still producing fine graduates
who contribute to the national defense. What more do we want?
[042] I am concerned that the Supe wants graduates to make up funding
shortfalls with their donations. It does not appear that the Supe takes
his case any further than the Army Chief of Staff. He needs to get more
closely involved with Congress. If the Supe does not get the funds he needs
to maintain and improve the facilities and programs at WP he should take
it to Congress and if needed, to the public Supes are on their final assignment----they
should all perform their duties accordingly. Stand and be counted------------
The Supe should host one of the CofS, A's 4 star commanders meeting at
West Point annually, preferably in the fall. This has been suggested before
and not acted on---why?
[043] Am concerned that the new LTs we are getting in the field are
not prepared...many are very immature...require more discipline.
[044] I sense the Corps and its commissioned staff are more apt to
compromise on matters of honor now ... hope I am wrong. I sense that because
the raw material "shows up" arguably less interested in honorable behavior,
and the Academy wants to remain alive, those compromises are rationalized.
Bottom line: "Why should we have a West Point?" will become harder and
harder to answer in ways that make sense to thinking taxpayers.
[045] Ensuring adequate federal funding
[046] By second hand information (so I may be totally wrong here)
I've heard that West Point traditions have been "altered" for this more
"politically correct" age. I've been told that the lyrics of Army Blue
and Benny Havens have been changed. This is a travesty!! If these songs
no longer are appropriate, then let them go to an honorable place in our
collective memory, but don't deface them by making them politically correct.
I've also heard that "area tours" have been eliminated in favor of "beautification
projects" and such. This is a shame. Area tours are the stuff that ties
people together and supplies a lifetime of stories. Can you imagine graduates
fifty years from now gathering to tell stories about planting flowers?!!
I can hear it now...."You think that was tough, one semister, I had to
plant 200 tulips!"
[047] I am concerned that as the Military down sizes and the emphasis
turns towards civilian leaders, that we will forget why USMA is the "Military
Academy."
[048] Continued relaxation of standards and privileges for cadets.
Too many tenured instructors.
[049] Again, my concerns are with the Active Military. It's difficult
to encourage young people into such a career when quite frankly they can
do better in other professions. I even saw an E-Mail from a Cadet's mother
about concern over USMA Dental care. (Healthcare.org) Unfortunately I didn't
get the full gist of it, and maybe it refered to a transitional overlap.
[050] Too little military focus Not enough of an all round institution
Attrition rate of recent grads is not good Self-less service is not enhanced
as a goal Quality of tactical officers is lacking Future of officers who
serve at WP is not promising
[051] USMA needs to be a great academic institution first. Thats
how we attract some of the best HS prospects in the country. Currently
cadet academic performance is only weighted 55% of their QPA. I believe
that is too low.
[052] Getting away from producing "warriors" and becoming too PC
and afraid of the Press. The "Hallums" thing really upset me. He was sent
there to do a mission, and then punished for doing it without counseling/support
from leaders.
[053] Hallums affair poorly handled and communicated by the Supe.
Mistress of the Sword?? Next it will be Infantry Company Commandtress
[054] We still seem to be confused about whether we are a "college
with a military training mission" or a "4-year OCS." The shifts in emphasis
over the years, while perhaps understandable, are confusing.
[055] Degradation of the 4th Class System Degradation of the Honor
System
[056] I wonder if it isn't time to reconsider the number of cadets.
I realize that the plant is there and perhaps it is better to use it to
capacity, but a smaller Corps might lead to more excellence and a better
reputation.
[057] I am deeply concerned that those in charge are being led down
a "politically correct" path, instead of "choosing the harder right". I
strongly oppose the civilianization of the teaching staff and the placement
of female officers and civilians in positions where they are not qualified
to serve. For example, the DBS&L should be staffed by male combat arms
officers who are graduates of West Point with a sprinkling of Annapolis
and Air Force Academy officers. Another example is the TAC Dept. TAC officers
at all levels should be from the combat arms, be males and be graduates
of USMA, USNA or USAFA. Otherwise, we just have another civilian university
which happens to sit on a lovely point of the Hudson River and has really
neat stone buildings. It's GETTING LATE!!
[058] Steady erosion of standards to meet the need to crank out graduates
to defend USMA budget: Congress's measure of effectiveness is number of
graduates divided by annual budget. We have cheapened the process to get
more graduates to increase the numerator to avoid cuts to the denominator.
[059] I have mixed views about the efficacy of the Internet as a
vehicle for getting input. This questionnaire is fine. Complaints about
how the Supe handled the Professor of Military Psychology and Leadership
(or whatever it is today) should not be weighed heavily. The Supe is in
charge and has numerous others on the scene to advise him. We have a command
structure with, hopefully, competent people in charge. I'm concerned that,
if all the solicited and unsolicited views are weighed heavily, we will
move toward anarchy. Listen to us old grads shouting, "The Corps has!",
but put competent people in charge and support them as they deal with today's
issues.
[060] It does not appear that USMA is preparing each graduate for
a lifetime of service in the army. Rather I feel it is just becoming another
college. This could lead to the elimination of USMA as an undergraduate
institution.
[061] I'm a little concerned at what I see as a conservative trend
in political thinking. Regardless of personal politics, the political arena
increasingly has fewer persons with military experience. The officer corps
must provide for similar diversity or risk being ignored at crucial times.
Just my opinion. And worth about that much.
[062] TOO much emphasis on the fitness preparation side. West Point
should produce leaders for the long term--so intellectual and character
develoment must not suffer. West Point need not be a four-year OCS. For
example, the fact that the average male cadet can do 88 pushups and female
cadets 44 is admirable, but not the ultimate objective. I can't imagine,
a few decades ago, an environment in which blood pinnings is an accepted,
if unauthorized, occurrence.
[063] Repeal of the Regular Commission Exclusion Law Too much emphasis
by the faculty on rapid attendence at Graduate School, so Cadets don't
spend enough time being soldiers, but rather attend graduate school and
then serve minimum time and depart the Army for higher paid jobs and fewer
absenses from family. The Army needs to convince Congress to raise the
pay of the men and women in the Armed Forces. I do not believe women should
serve in Combat Arms.
[064] 1) I am concerned about what I can best describe as the civilianization
of the academy. I do not consider myself a "hard-core old grad" but I feel
that in order to make ourselves attractive to applicants we are watering
down the very experience that both the Army and our society needs for our
graduates to endure. I can't tell you how much I have come to appreciate
what the Academy instilled ever since I became a civilian.
[065] My brothers and I are fellow grads ('61,'70,'72) as was my
father ('38) and we do talk among ourselves reference the direction and
scope of training that USMA is offering its cadets. We understand that
what w/ dollar constraints and all the "peace loving" politicians (most
of whom haven't the foggiest idea of what their military has done and still
does for them) wishing to loook like the drastic downsizing of our country's
armed forces was/is their idea, that the quality of the military leaders
produced by West Point, and yes, the other academies, continues to be the
main thrust/goal of the academies. Has West Point ever had meetings of
the minds w/ the other academies? We are all on the same high-wire act.
Just thought that maybe you'd have thought of something like that?
[066] I support women in the military and was proactive during my
29 years in the USAF. However , I believe the standards should be the same
for both sexes if they are both to be eligible for the same duty. If the
standards are not the same, the graduates should be identified by the standard
they met and assigned duty accordingly.
[067] Support from the nation
[068] Nothing which will ever be resolved in the current political
environment
[069] USMA needs to focus on being a military academy and not a college.
We have lots of colleges but only one USMA. The more USMA becomes another
college the less relavent it becomes. To keep its place in life I feel
that it needs to redirect its efforts towards the production of officers
not history or chemistry majors.
[070] I would be interested in knowing what efforts to instruct cadets
about ethics are being taken by the Academy. Considering the disrepute
that Lt Flinn brought on the Air Force and the Air Force Academy (in my
opinion) I would hope that USMA is presenting a sound course on ethics.
[071] Feminization of USMA and the Army. Lack of emphasis on the
role of warfighter. General lowering of standards (physical, moral, and
ethical) to accomodate politically correct outcomes.
[072] I am concerned that USMA is not providing enough of the senior
leadership of the army. We are spending so much effort on academic excellence
that it is causing a drift from discipline, military training and standards.
We need to return to providing REGULAR ARMY COMMISSIONS, and only in the
combat arms.
[073] I am concerned about maintaining the integrity of the Honor
code. I have heard rumors that cadets can be "turned back" even after being
found guilty of honor violations and that concerns me.
[074] In all that I have read or heard about in the past two years,
on the net, I am concerned about what I would call the civilizing of West
Point to try and become an Ivy League clone. I feel that with the amount
of army 2nd Lt slots available that perhaps the Corps is too large. I feel
the dimunation of the combat arms requirements is a serious mistake. As
I remember, a grad had to serve two years in a CA before a transfer to
a CSC branch could be accomplished.
[075] Believe Duty Honor Country are integral to any expression of
the Academy's mission or purpose.
[076] I comment on those directly as an Academy Professor and will
save you the space here.
[077] The change in commissioning and the trend to change the West
Point systems that have existed for years.
[078] I am concerned about reductions in standards for discipline
and too many efforts to go with the political correctness of society and
my son's who are graduates in recent years have given me plenty of information
on which to base this view.
[079] 1. Abolishment of the 4th Class system 2. Changes to honor
code implementation 3. The ever-increasing appointment of faculty members
who are not graduates 4. The appointment of a non-graduate woman as the
Master of the Sword, a position which is so closely connected with the
combat, warrior ethic 5. The general directiion of discarding proven past
policies and traditions
[080] I am concerned that Beast Barracks has lost some of it's toughness.
[081] Early Out programs for younger Grads Changing DPE requirements
Loss of certain USMA traditions
[082] See comments above
[083] Degree of emphasis on a military career as opposed to whatever
the hell it is they're offering now in the curriculum--trying to outdo
USNA & USAFA?
[084] "Old Grads" are never totally happy with the direction that
West Point is heading. While I realize USMA must adjust to stay current
with changes in society, I am concerned that the fundamental concepts that
have been the bedrock of West Point over many decades are being eroded.
I have the same concerns about the Army that today's graduates are joining.
I feel strongly that male graduates should join the combat arms for a minimum
of two or three years. We have to convince the American public that USMA
must be retained as an institution -- that our graduates bring more to
the Army than an ROTC or OCS graduate. We can't do that by continuing to
become more and more liberal and more like a civilian college.
[085] Stop being so politically correct.
[086] Developing a paper
[087] I believe that the Academy has become too politically correct
and has not paid proper attention to the necessities of a "rite of passage"
for the plebes.
[088] grads should be regular officers
[089] Lack of regular commission. Apparent deempasis on combat arms
which are our reason for being. Should offer some form of graduate courses
for cadets who come with college credit, but NOT turn USMA into grad school
or portion thereof.
[090] Gradual erosion of the total system; for example, I just heard
that now cadets do not have dinner formations, having many different options.
I am sure there are other changes which would not impress me, also.
[091] WARRIOR ETHOS AND HOW TO PROMOTE IT IN A DIVERSE WORLD-ARE
WE SUCCEEDING? IF NOT, IT SHOULD BE OUR NUMBER 1 PRIORITY.
[092] RA commissiong
[093] The Mission! We've gotten too far away from producing leaders
for the Army. As a result we are creating young officers with little dedication
to the army or their soldiers. We must not forsake quality for quantity.
[094] RA Commissions. Degree of integration of females. Softening
of soldierly virtues. Orientation of newcomers in the academic versus the
tactical unit leadership styles. Funding necessary functions by fund-raising.
[095] I do not support using USMA as a social laboratory. I believe
decisions should be based upon how USMA reflects society rather than is
the forebearer of social evolution. I recognize changes will occur, but
let changes occur to catch USMA up with society rather than the converse.
[096] I have some concerns that I do not wish to describe in this
brief opportunity.
[097] yes, intersession is a total waste of time. Go back to MS classes
being a full year program. You can not teach a semester long course in
less than two weeks and expect quality retenion of the material. If that
were the case, then why not take physics, or math, or any other academic
class during intersession? - - Because the "academcis" that make the rules
realize that intersession is a poor quality instructional tool. I am sure
there are not too many PAP's that would apporve of their classes being
taught on an interssion schedule. In addition to intersession being a poor
instructional tool, how / wjhy shoudl we exepct the cadets to have a military
focus / committment? In effect, what we say by condoning intersession is
that the military classes take a back seat to academics. That is the wrong
way to approach military instruction at a military academy. Cadets should
have a miltary focus throughout the entire academic year, not just during
intersession.
[098] The corps image athletics discipline
[099] Am very concerned that West Point is in danger of becoming
"just another college." The mission statement is awful, and the dramatic
increase in civilian faculty has us well on the way to being another Annapolis
of USAFA. We are an academy for the ground combat service -- we MUST have
higher standards. Our mission statement MUST reflect producing officers
for the US Army. We must NOT produce future stockbrokers and english majors,
but well-rounded Army officers.
[100] I'm a bit concerned that USMA is being "sucked into" the politically
correct vacuum. USMA was and should always be about producing military
leaders. Any other byproducts (i.e. success in civilian spheres. . .) should
be icing on the cake. Don't confuse the icing with the cake!
[101] The purpose of West Point should be to develop Regular Army
Officers who intend to have a career thru retirement in the Army. USMA
is not a standard University/College and its standards and original policies
should not be changed to succumb to political pressures and why can't we
be like other schools.
[102] Hopless as it probably is, I would like to see the elimination
of girls at West Point. I don't think the strength of The Corps should
be reduced. Everything else is probably in good hands
[103] Army may be a fine college, but its image is tarnished by poor
performance on the athletic field.
[104] We need to develop leaders for the Army, period. I sincerely
believe we've gotten too soft. Any grad, no matter when they graduated,
will tell you "the Corps has...". When I left active duty 6 months ago,
I was shocked at the product USMA was sending the active Army; a poor sense
of duty and responsibility; little ownership of their actions; soft; poor
managers. They seemed to lack the traits that have been the stock and trade
of USMA grads.
[105] I have some nit picks; but am not up in amrms like so many
of my classmates. I see most of the Supe's problems coming from inside
the DC beltway and from the hinterlands. The Corps may be getting too lax;
however. That will be a problem the next Supe will have to solve.
[106] The mission statement of USMA needs to be discussed further.
[107] See my comments earlier.
[108] 1. Loss of Regular Army Commissions. 2. Lack of dedication
to life time service. 3. Apparent lowering of standards. 4. Lack of Combat
arms service requirement. 5. Politically correct approach toward military
service.
[109] We seem to be watering down discipline and the honor code.
[110] Maintaining the identity of the Academy. Civilianization and
elimination of traditions (regardless of weather they be deemed as good
or bad, ie Area Tours) continue to weaken the strands of continuity of
the Academy thus reducing the common bond. In fact, as a graduate of 1994,
I feel that I am an "outsider" when in the presence of prior classes. I
have a great respect for the graduates from decades ago which is not the
same for present graduates. I wanted to go through a "tougher" program.
Too many graduates who do not adequately represent the ideals of the Academy
have and will continue to graduate. For example, my roommate at AG OBC
ended up being a criminal. He stole a laptop computer, my credit card,
bribed an officer, etc. Though he went to Leavenworth, he is now in or
out of Graduate school and wearing his ring. I went through Warrant Officer
Candidate School in 1988 and became a pilot. They told us that they were
going to do in 6 weeks what it takes West Point 4 years to do. I was thoroughly
impressed with the program and to this day, it is the toughest program
I have ever participated in in my 9.5 years in the Army. I was very disspointed
in the degree of difficulty from a military perspective. Diversion from
tradition seems to give Congress more and more reasons to eliminate Academy
funding since it is beginning to be incorrectly compared to no different
than an intense ROTC program. Sorry for rambling, but I know that if I
had not experienced some of these bad things, I would have a much stronger
feeling of a bond within the corps. Granted, some of the strongest friendships
and bonds in my life are a result of my experience at the Academy and I
would not trade any of it for the world. However, I feel the bonds have
become decentralized to personal friendships more than a centralized corps
bond. I would be happy to elaborate on my beliefs. Feel free to call at
(617) 868-0094.
[111] I am concerned about the reduction of the unique "West Point"
experience being overtaken by the desire to reflect more of the Army in
the day to day cadet life. I'm not happy with what I perceive to be the
Administration's desire to make West Point more like an Army unit rather
than a military academy. To cite a small but telling example, I don't like
seeing the cadets wearing BDUs to class on a regular basis.
[112] Pursue return of Regular Army commission for graduates.
[113] I can't believe you would make a statement like "West Point
cannot fufill its goal as it is underfunded. West Point needs contributions
to meet its goal." If that's the case, close it down.
[114] Dedication to core (no pun intended) values Maintaining independent
non-ROTC program
[115] The statement draft that I saw was misdirected, in my judgement,
by being more directed toward a politically correct approach than being
specific about the mision to develop combat-branch officers with deep-seated
ethics and a desire for service to teh Nation.
[116] You have got to be kidding! Not aware? C'mon.
[117] The lack of focus on combat leaders I am diturbed to see that
a large number of graduates leave West Point and are focused imediately
on leaving the service. I also see a large number of graduates branching
into non-combat arms branches. We need to promote doing the harder right
(going into the combat arms, attending ranger school) and not the easier
wrong of branching into a CS or CSS role. (Especially male cadets)
[118] Regular Commissions for Graduates Return of basic curriculum
and away from majors Civilian instructors/professors Commissioning in non-combat
branches Provide separate Academy for women Reduce size of USMA to fit
size of Army
[119] I do not have enough facts to answer this properly.
[120] All things that move away from a warrior focus concern me.
WP should be producing the Nation's Best leaders for battle. I consider
it the Raison d'Etre
[121] Talking to cadets/graduates of both sexes indicates that the
public image that the Corps is fully "integrated" by sex is a sham. We
need to face the problems and fix them. I am not as familiar with racial
difficulties, but I'd guess they exist, too. Fix it.
[122] Source of appointments to USMA. Requirements for admission
to USMA.
[123] Increasing use of civilian instructors, and going too far from
a basic engineering education, whatever one's specialty.
[124] I am not sure if the Academy is still instilling the selfless
service/warrior ethic in its graduates. I have seen several come through
the Ranger School (where I work) that expect the class to be handed to
them. There is a not the responsibilites for their own actions I expected
to see from Academy graduates.
[125] Makin sure it stays relevant to the needs of the Army More
faculty involvement with mainstream Army
[126] Don't know where its heading.
[127] Whatever
[128] Stop the semantics. Simple and to the point. Why are we changing?
[129] everything done at West Point conceerns me
[130] Am opposed to using ANY West Point Fund money for projects
which should be supported by appropriated funds. This is a slippery slope
which erodes forever appropriated fund support for West Point. NO PROJECT
is so important that it can't wait in line for appropriated funding. AOG
will get no further contributions from me if it crosses this line.
[131] losing its unique status as a national asset for graduating
leaders with character and devotion to the country.
[132] The current political and military environment is typical of
past peacetime periods. Please do not allow the short sighted to drive
West Point into extinction. History suggests that we may someday again
require military leaders of high character and ability. Until such time,
find any way possible to maintain the capacity to develop leaders at West
Point. It is a great program. Our business community is in short supply
of the same type of individual demanded in combat. It may be tough to justify
the federal dollars, but we can use the grads who do their 5 and drive.
[133] Increasing civilianization of faculty.
[134] Why is it OK for everybody to join support branches? Look at
the role models the cadets have for their professors and TACs...quartermasters,
air defenders, ordnance. What the hell is going on up there? Somebody needs
to take a little trip over to Mac statue and read the inscription about
how "yours is the profession of arms, the will to win." Let OCS and ROTC
worry about supplying the geeks to run the support units.
[135] I feel that in today's society, a greater emphasis needs to
be placed on a person's values. Thus, emphasizing the need for leaders
that possess the values desired by the Academy and the Army is an issue
that I think should be addressed. USMA must produce men and women who possess
inordinate amounts of moral courage and conviction!
[136] We frequently hear that Congress (and/or staff members) are
conerned about cost of USMA and does USA really need the Service schools.
Included in these concerns are comments/data that West Point graduates
do not provide their appropriate share of senior officers. The image, if
not the facts, is that ROTC and other officer sources are providing better
senior officers at less cost. If this is not the case AOG should provide
hard statisical data refuting and USMA/AOG should get the word out. If
this adverse image is correct, USMA with AOG support should determine why
this is? There are many AOG members who think the solution is to elimate
most electives from the cirriculum and go back to teaching leadeship.
[137] USMA no longer requires strict discipline - has become "soft".
Honor code not rigidly applied. Academics have higher priority than military
[138] Yes, as mentioned above, the politicalization of the army really
got underway during the Korean War and has continued to this day. Viet
Nam was a clear example (read "Dereliction of Duty" H.R. McMaster, '84).Of
all institutions, USMA must be steadfast and truthful in what it does and
how it does it. Duty, Honor, Country doesn't mean much if one then bows
to some fashionable political theory that at a later date, on other fields,
will bear the fruits of defeat.
[139] Do not lose focus of the academy. Do not make it into an expensive
ROTC. Do not generalize the mission statement, taking away from the founding
purpose of the academy.
[140] USMA must not loosen its regulations to the point where it
becomes to easy to compare the freedoms afforded cadets to those of civilian
counterparts. Too much freedom begs the question, "Why not just fund ROTC?"
[141] Not enough emphasis on military service and leadership. Too
much on civilian service to the U.S. One can follow the other, but military
must have the priority.
[142] concerned about soldier-scholar vs. techie debate. Seems to
be a lack of emphasis on the hard right (duty-honor-country) than the easier
wrong (consideration of others, political correctness).
[143] Like many others, I'm extremely troubled by the revocation
of the RA status for all graduates. When you sacrifice four years doing
the hardest that the Army has to offer, you should get some reward. Taking
away the RA commission sends a signal to prospective candidates that West
Point is just another ROTC program.
[144] See my item #17.
[145] I am extremely concerned about the few grads who remain in
the Regular Army. I went to USMA since I felt (and still do!) that it is
the best way to become an officer. The grads I have worked with in the
Army either seem to follow that course, or in the great majority, view
USMA as a 4 year scholarship to a prestigious college. The recent (beginning
when I was a cow) changes in the mission statement only further eviscerate
any ideas that USMA is to produce career officers, and not politically
correct managers.
[146] I'm not sure that I agree with the "kinder, gentler" West Point.
While I am not the old "Corps has" type, I do know that combat is still
a very stressful, ugly affair, and that West Point is still responsible
for producing officers to lead our nation in battle.
[147] Since LTG Palmer was Superintendent, USMA has lost its focus
of providing combat leaders to the US Army. Instead we are focused on political
correctness of providing weak liberal arts majors and not making it "too
hard" for the cadets. We've dropped military science as a part of the normal
curriculum, reduced discipline, and created a glorified, over priced ROTC
program. We need to get back to focusing on the whole "person", stressing
military science, math, and enginering. Otherwise it is only a matter of
tie before the taxpayers are convinced they are not getting their money's
worth.
[148] My perception is that USMA is getting away from developing
combat leaders and striving for social correctness. USMA should be developing
combat leaders-not social politicians.
[149] Gender inequality - lowered standards for females Racial preferences
Non-combat arm assignment at graduation Allowing attendance at medical
school immediately after graduation, instead of having the graduate fulfill
combat arms service, first. Large number of foreign cadets Allowing sports
team participants to have special classes prior to all the other cadets.
Allowing cadets to fail courses, and then take remedial classes and graduate
later. Drifting away from the main mission of the academy; to train people
for combat branches.
[150] 1. Regular Officer status of graduates. 2. Efforts to extend
retention of graduates.
[151] --The cadets need to be proficiently skilled at basic military
tasks such as land navigation, marksmanship, small unit mission planning,
and decision-making. The Department of Military Instruction should be filled
with our best leaders to provide role models and instruction. --The football
program is being pulled into the professionalization of Division I college
athletics. We should be competing against schools of equivalent size and
mission. It is time to produce a winning program at the Division I-AA level.
If we insist on playing against Division I universities, then allow athletes
to serve their commitments in alternative methods.
[152] I believe I ahve stated them above.
[153] Lack of respect for War Heroes cp. Wall Street Journal article
within last year describing feminist rout of a Colonel because he was "
too macho."
[154] Fund raising from private sources is likely to prevent adequate
funding from DA.
[155] That present cadets and graduates may not be living up to the
traditions established by those in the past. Probably it is "the Corps
has" syndrome which is exacerbated by modern communications.
[156] 1-Mission of USMA should once again be to graduate combat arms
officers. 2-No graduate should be sent to post-graduate education until
they've proven that they have potential by serving at least 3yrs inititial
assignment. 3-I am increasing concerned about academy graduates who say
they did not realize what would be expected of them after graduation,ie,
grad who was doctor and refused to go to Gulf War and later was court-martialed
for standing nude in company street in Saudi and recently female grad who
placed priority on breast feeding baby over obligation for service. Academy
needs redoubled effort to insure cadet fully understand and embrace ideas
of selfless service and country before self. 4- No need for grad school
at USMA. Plenty of superb schools to provide what we need.
[157] 1. Perceived diminution of the warrior ethic 2. Insufficient
focus on combat arms orientation
[158] West Point is being converted into a typical civilian university
with tenure, etc. It is a MILITARY ACADEMY and should be run by compotent
military officers at all levels. In the last Army Navy Game I saw no "killer
instinct". Where did it go?
[159] I am concerned over the departure from the time-honored traditions
of the cadet experience that have resulted in the respect for the Academy
and its graduates in the eyes of the American public and the world. I often
wonder if this departure is rooted in the desire to curry favor from the
public to prove that we are not as bad as anti-military people claim. It
takes a generation to discover if major changes in an educational system
have yielded the desired results. Our test comes on the field of battle......a
dangerous place to discover that the changes were ill-advised. I am also
concerned that if we begin to assume the aura of a civilian college, we
may be providing ammunition to those who have been interested in turning
West Point into something other than it is.
[160] Tired of seeing the majority of money raised by AOG going to
Sports functions. There are several other cadet clubs and Departments that
could use money to further a military education.
[161] The shift away from strict discipline and commissioning combat
arms officers will hurt our military in the long run. USMA should continue
to train leaders for our country, but their immediate purpose should be
to prepare leaders for our Army.
[162] For what I know it seems to be heading in the right direction,
although I don't think that we are doing a good job at selling its worth
to Congress.
[163] I am very concerned about the perceived (by me) demilitarization
of West Point and its apparent concern about being a PC University to the
detriment of its role as a producer of COMBAT LEADERS.
[164] The idea of producing leaders for careers in the Regular Army
needs to be revived.
[165] Male and Female cadets should not be housed together. Training
should not be together. They obviously have different capabilities and
lowering standards is not a reasonable solution.
[166] regular army commissions combat arms honor system allowing
cadets toparticipate in the mission statement (inmates in control)
[167] Standards, Standards, Standards - High and equal for all.
[168] I do not approve with the winter intersession that focuses
only on MS 100-400 classes. I beleive that Corps should have military training
class all year long. Additionlly, I feel that the Academy is trying to
compete with the Ivy leagues schools for canidates instead if canidates
that want to serve their country.
[169] See response to AOG goals question above.
[170] I am still not convinced that the academic trends toward other
top colleges (majors, etc.) is the way to go. Different school, different
purposes. Make the academy just like another, but more expensive Harvard/Stanford/Yale/MIT,
and it'll lose its reason for being. It may actually go away. If you doubt
this, look at the decision to award reserve commissions. I am concerned
about the drive in some quarters to create a "graduate school USMA" (see
recent Assembly debate.) Don't lose sight of what the academy's for. I'm
also concerned that the assignment to faculty at the academy has become
a career negative for soldiers attempting to stay in the chase for battalion
command. One result is the very high proportion of CSS officers among the
faculty. Another is a severe dilution of the "warfighter mentality" that
I remember and treasure. Political correctness, as severe at USMA as at
anywhere else in the country I have seen, is another result. The cadets
are much less fragile than the faculty and administration seem to imagine,
or if they're not, they're in for one helluva rude awakening when they
get to the Army.
[171] Concerned about the training being given relative to the role
of females in the service. Clearly, there are significant problems in the
military today and I am not sure that the cadets are being adequately trained.
I was particularly upset when a representative from West Point attended
our Founder's Day Meeting and suggested that it was very appropriate to
court-martial "whistleblowers." Somehow, I suspect the faculty at West
Point may have lost sight of the item we swore to protect and preserve
when we graduated - - The Constitution.
[172] The institution sees itself as more important than the individuals
that make it up -- a very un-American idea. USMA is too introspective and
self-absorbed; more concerned with self-justification than adapting to
the needs of the Army and the Nation.
[173] We need to Beat Navy!
[174] Although I have no evidence other than gut feel, I believe
the standards at USMA have become lower. I think this stems from the more
liberal honor policy that exists now (Class of 78 issue).
[175] The Army and West Point are drifting away from a war-fighting
ethos.
[176] I understand the Supe's message given to us at our 15th reunion.
The money issue is understood given the climate in government today. However,
I was somewhat concerned with the move towards a more open campus in overall
terms. The Supe's reasoning was the Academy needed to change to recruit
cadets more effectively. However, I fear that removing some of the discipline
from the Academy may make the Academy just another college. If the Academy
loses the distinction of being unique, it also risks losing it's reason
for existance. I am not saying that we need to maintain tradition for tradition's
sake, but solid leadership training and discipline are what makes West
Point different.
[177] Just the current overall attitude toward the military and the
Academy that seems to be coming out of Washington.
[178] -Elimination of the area as a punishment and replacement with
"labor" and other such details (not in favor of it) -Keeping cadet captains
above company command in place all year (reduces opportunities of others)
-Recognizing Plebes at Spring break ... too early -Optional meals/unlimited
fast food availability (loss of comradrie/tradition/nutrition);increase
debt -Mandatory charges to cadets for Eisenhower Hall performances when
many cannot/do not attend; yet still requiring them to pay for more popular
events -Inability of cadets and their guests to get priority for Hotel
Thayer seating/reservations on weekends unless they have large groups -Increased
use of cadets to do police/clean-up details -Use of the USMA prep school
almost exclusively for athletic recruiting and/or minority & regular
Army recruiting vice better mix of more talented applicants -Proposed changes
in beast barracks/4th class system to eliminate many "traditional" activities
simply because they are not directly tied to Army standards and/or activities
-Failure to permit cadets to where short overcoats or appropriate warm
uniforms to early fall sports and other activities when the weather has
already turned cold -Overemphasis on forcing women and minorities into
leadership positions vice selecting best qualified -Scramble of the cadets
after 2 years (on balance, costs outweigh benefits) -Not permitting cadets
to use checks and/or credit cards at the cadet mail room -Elimination of
real newspapers to most cadets -Toleration of homosexuality when indications
tantamount to "telling" are discovered -Inconsistency in disciplinary practices
when such practices affect women, minorities, and/or certain groups such
as athletes, emerging or serving leaders
[179] The need for private funding for cadet activities and facilities.
[180] Liability of too large a Corps Loss of warrior ethic Impact
of women on the institution What happened to the honor code? Declining
retention
[181] This is probably not the forum for this, but.... Not walking
the area concerns me. Generally disappointed with the Corps' rendering
of customs and courtesies at homecoming this year. I think it is too "progressive".
I guess I'm becoming an "Old Grad" after all.
[182] l. No RA commissions2. Assignment to other than combat arms.
3. optional curriculum. 4 lowering of standards. 5 AND ONE OF THE MOST
SIGNIFICANT. Civilianization of the instructors. 6. Size of the Academy.
7 Move toward "Joe College" atmosphere--this is slightly different than
4 above.
[183] In my view, West Point is no longer the United States MILITARY
Academy and has NOT been for many years. Poor retention of young fine graduates
in the Army coupled with a change in the USMA Mission ("to provide leaders
for the Nation") have undermined what used to be the nation's finest MILITARY
Academy. I think the responsibility for undermining the MILITARY Academy
lies with: *A number of former Supes. *The DA Staff (including the Chief
of Staff of the Army) *A consistent "push" to try to keep the size of the
Corps of Cadets at the 4800 level when there have NOT been sufficient "ARMY"
slots to accomodate all of the fine young men and women who have "worn-the
grey" for about the last 20 years. I think the name, USMA, should be changed
to: << The United States Leadership College (USLC) >>
[184] I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT IF THE US GOVT WANTS AN ACADEMY TO
TRAIN LEADERS FOR THE US MILITARY THEN THEY SHOULD FULLY SUPPORT THE EFFORT
IN EVERY WAY INCLUDING FULL FUNDING. dROP THE SIZE OF THE INSTITUTION IF
FUNDING IS THE PROBLEM
[185] USMA needs to train predominantly combat arms officers to win
our wars. There is too much of a focus on "Leaders of character to serve
our nation." The senior level instructors at the academy need to be MILITARY
OFFICERS who have served in senior command positions. How many department
heads have ever commanded a battalion?
[186] The COM talked about the respect training. I think cadetettiquette
(sic) is fine and he can spend his time better elsewhere.
[187] Yes, I am concerned about how well prepared the new Graduates
are for life as an officer. I believe that we could help the Supe in developing
the necessary programs to develop young officers.
[188] Encroachment of "political correctness" in policies governing
cadet development.
[189] I am concerned of a general slide away from instilling a warfighting
spirit in the cadets. We must produce warriors. It does not matter what
sex they are...they must be selfless and combat oriented.
[190] I am concerned that USMA frads do not receive the initial Regular
Army appointment. As a former PMS, a see this as the first step to raising
the questions "Why have USMA? Can we do it 'cheaper' via ROTC?"
[191] - Honor Code: I've heard that some violations within the first
two years are dealt with "slugs" as opposed to dismissal. I am (as most
graduates are) strongly against any degradation to the honor code and the
consequences of violating it.
[192] I remain very concerned about the implications of mixed gender
training within the military at large. Since this issue has been "settled"
within our current culture it seems futile to press the point with regard
to West Point. Nonetheless the Corps has since 1976, in my Neanderthal
opinion, lost much of its potential to prepare and provide combat leaders
for our nation. This great loss will not be seen or acknowledged until
we need those leaders and they are not to be found.
[193] the academic cir. "appears" to be continuing to lean more towards
liberal arts and away from a solid engineering background
[194] Concerned with the Admissions process. I hope we do not compromise
student quality for political correctness (ie goals).
[195] Seems that 90% of the grads today are looking to get out at
the end of their committment. Hmmm??
[196] Failure to focus on military aspects of curriculum.
[197] I believe USMA should refocus on producing warrior leaders.
[198] Proactive process is bogus. It seems that decisions have been
made and than grad opinion sought (manipulated) to support a pre-existing
bias.
[199] RA vs USAR commission; recruiting and admitting athletes who
do not meet the standards (academically) for other non-corps squad cadets;
minority recruiting as a quota-like system, emphasis on fund-raising over
other AOG missions; decrease in internalization of honor concept.
[200] (1) "Friendly Points" system instituted by DPE this past fall.
How it started, how it changed,and how it ended bothered me because of
the message it sends cadets. (2) New Cmdt's vision to make USMA like the
ARMY. Views that "fourth class system" traditions are outdated and do not
add to leadership development are shortsighted and it seems this Cmdt feels
no accountability just the desire to change. I have not been impressed
with his leadership or judgment.
[201] I'd like to see curriculum focused on foreign languages, foreign
policy, international studies and military studies. USMA cadets should
be the be the best LTs in the system because of superior training. I don't
think we do that now.
[202] Not aware of direction, so couldn't comment
[203] I am very concerned that the AOG and USMA are abrogating the
MISSION funding responsibility. My read on the Sup's latest call for Graduate
support for construction is that Former Sup's were not diligent in their
stewardship of USMA. This is very strange considering the quality of permanent
professors, associates, and staff provided for USMA.
[204] I recently wrote to the Editor of Assembly commenting on an
article written in a past issue. The article gave the impression that the
disciplinary (Plebe) system is being 'watered down' "The Corps has". I
am aware that the 'system', life at West Point, the "West Point Experience"
has to change to be relevant to the times, but I am afraid that we may
be going too far. I closed my letter with the comment that, if we continue
on the current track, West Point may soon be just another college where
the students happen to wear uniforms. Graduates before my class had a more
difficult life at W.P. than we did, folks who attended after my class ('59)
had life easier than we did. I suppose this is normal, but where does it
end? West Point grads are supposed to be something special. Why? I always
thought it was because of the tough, demanding, regimented life we led
as cadets. If this goes away, and it appears that it is, then what is left?
[205] My experience with recent grads in my last years of active
duty was not good. Most were shithouse lawyers who were more concerned
with their perceived rights - like an 8 hour workday in a tank battalion
- than doing their duty. Current grads are not worth the cost of the Academy.
[206] It seems that USMA is trying to become a more "mainstream"
educational institution rather than setting itself apart as the Nation's
Military Academy. Academics at the Academy should be Top-Notch, however
emphasis on creation of strong, focused military leaders and a "Spartan"
military ethos should remain which causes cadets and the Nation to internalize
Duty, Honor, Country. If USMA does not stand out in the crowd, then I do
not believe that the American public will continue to support its existence.
[207] Athletics continues to be a shortfall. The focus on increasing
the academic acceptance standards is good, but I do not understand why
USMA cannot recruit better athletes. I realize that I have no knowledge
about the contracts for the coaches. However, if the contracts are not
incentive based i.e. win/loss records; post-season play etc. the contracts
should be rewritten. Confident coaching staff should readily accept the
challenge since that is what they are requesting of their teams every day.
Any coach not interested in a performance contract should be replaced.
It just is not good enough to beat Navy in order to keep a job.
[208] 1. I was distressed to see that there is a new Brigade Staff
position called the Cadet Respect for Other Captain, or something to that
effect. I hope that these values are an integral part of the chain of command,
rather than some additional duty or appendage to the chain of command.
This is a leadership function, not a staff function.
[209] The usual old grad complaints about "the Corps has." This is
perhaps inevitable considering the requirement to keep West Point a top
academic institution at the same time as a training ground for officers.
[210] All of the Academies will be losing Congressional support in
the years to come as the number of veterans in the House and Senate drops
to zero. Accordingly, they will have to be able to back up their claims
that they graduate the best and set the standard for all officer acquisitions.
We cannot claim that at present due to the unhealthy emphasis on Division
1 sports. Let's drop to Division 2 or 3 where we can compete with true
student/athletes and not have a large cohort of substandard cadets who
are eroding standards for the Academy.
[211] I am very concerned about USMA. Frankly I am not very sanguine
about its prospects. I do not hear any voices that reflect my, and many
of my fellow graduates' concerns. I know of no sound reason for changing
USMA's mission, etc. Why should cadets go into non-combat arms on graduation?
Why are not grades posted weekly for all to see? Why are there different
physical standards for male and female cadets? I believe combat is closer
to football than field hockey; notwithstanding the "Sunday morning talk
show" view that combat is now largely a technological challenge. Enough.
Even long retired graduates who share my views are unwilling to speak up.
[212] I'm am concerned with a small movement within the political
world to do away with the academies. The drive is based upon the cost models
being compared with ROTC costs. Obviously flawed because ROTC costs only
show actual scholarship cost while USMA costs include the associated training
costs as well.
[213] Concerned about increased reliance on private funding. Are
we equipped to solicit major sponsorships -- unrecognized sponsorships
-- from leading US corporations and wealthy individuals?
[214] 4th Class System Overall discipline of the corps
[215] For some time now I have gotten the impression that the Academy
has been far more succesful in ultimately producing doctors and lawyers.
Though these are admorable professions, the purpose of the Academy is to
produce exceptionally high quality leaders for the Armed Forces.
[216] Concerned that USMA may be getting too "politically correct".
Admission should be based on level standards, without goals for affirmative
action considerations, or other factors. Have heard horror stories about
recruited (minority) athletes who could not meet basic academic or ethical
standards. We don't need our own USNA stolen car, drug, or sexual harrassment
incidents. Admitting quality cadets is still the best way to accomplish
the USMA mission.
[217] Although the Superintendent and the Commandant have been persuaded
that the abolition of the fourth class system is justified (and thus they
have carefully dismantled most of it), I am unaware of any effort to communicate
to graudates other than the staff and faculty why what we endured as cadets
is no longer useful (or why what is being done now is somehow better).
Perhaps the fourth class system was outdated and deserved to be eliminated,
but one clear result of that move is that West Point looks much more like
any college ROTC program.
[218] 1. Priority one should be academics. The best way to produce
quality leaders is to provide them with the opportunity to learn and grow
intellectually.
[219] This question is misleading. I can have no concerns and still
not be happy.
[220] Political correctness versus what is really best for USMA in
the long run.
[221] I don't have the detail necessary to answer this.
[222] Keep the program demanding and do not cave in to "politically
correct" programs. USMA should create warfighters.
[223] From what I gather, USMA is trying to have its graduates be
leaders in the Army of the future. I believe that USMA is heading in the
right direction, is not afraid to try something new, and is willing to
make mistakes along the way. I find this refreshing and exciting. An institution
that does not change will perish. As long as we preserve our core values,
we will continue to be a great institution into the next century and beyond.
USMA is changing yet preserving.
[224] Despite legislation, want to ensure USMA keeps a high percentage
of military on the faculty.
[225] Undecided at this time..
[226] Civilianization of the faculty shouild not be over-done. The
Naval Academy model should not be emulated. USMA graduates will be better
imbued with the spirit of the Academy motto if they have the role models
found in a military faculty.
[227] Seems to me that the Supe's principal priorities are on new
athletic facilities. While nice to have, this probably is not the highest
priority.
[228] Need better communication about what direction it is really
heading. Maybe need to see the staff and faculties goals
[229] Ongoing viability of USMA.
[230] o Real or perceived "drift" of the focus of USMA from the needs
of the Army to adequately provide for defense of the nation and national
security -- too much concern for "politically correct" social engineering
policies that detract from the higher purpose of providing leaders for
the Army. o The military focus of senior USMA faculty -- Academy Professors
and PUSMAs -- losing touch with the "operational Army" and the issues/challenges
facing the Officer Corps "in the field."
[231] The proposed USMA Mission statement is too focused on a career
in the military rather than a life time of service to the nation. I did
make a career of the military but many of my classmates did not but do
great things for our country. Cadets are not mature or knowledgeable enough
to decide if a career in the Army is what they want.
[232] I really only learn of changes at WP from Classmates who are
teaching there or have gone back to visit. I would really like more insight
on cirriculum, privileges, plebe requirements and just the daily cadet
life stuff.
[233] Yes. We do not academically challenge cadets with anywhere
near the same course load today that we did 25-30 years ago. Why? My son
at Colo School of Mines, a premier engineering school, requires 169 credit
hours and a very demanding curriculm of technological courses to graduate.
Why don't we put back into the CLED equation a greater academic load? The
Borman Commission and EE302 scandal were 20 years ago. Things have changed
in many ways at West Point. The mental stresses on cadets are reduced from
prior generations. Cadets graduate with a major with only 130 hrs. Some
critical technological courses we used to have crammed down our throats,
like it or not (like medicine) are no longer required couses for all cadets
(eg.,, thermodynamics and electrical engineering), yet today, technological
knowledge is more essential and absolutely required to be a great officer.
Cadets come to West Point today, despite tremendous opportunity for exposure
to world geography via modern media and computers, yet they have at best
a 1950s 5th or 6th grade level of knowledge of the world's countries, oceans,
rivers, and mountains. They are not taught world geography. Why not? When
they are told they may fight in Bosnia, most do not even know where that
country is at. It is attrocious that an officer in our Army and graduate
of West Point does not know that Siberia is in Russia, or that El Salvador
is in Central America, or that Somalia is on the East Coast of Africa.
Graduates of West Point comprise 60% of the Army officers with technical
educational backgrounds, yet not one cadet gets even an informal course
in the development, engineering, production, fielding and procurement of
weapon systems in the overall Defense Acquisition process under which we
equip and arm our Armed Forces. They need a course in Defense Acquisition
as part of nearly all engineering majors and fields of study. In today's
world, it is essential that our officers be able to communicate effectively
with allies, negotiate with enemies and host nations, yet our cadets have
less than 1/2 the class time and exposure to formal language training today
than they had just 25 years ago. You cannot learn a language in just 80
hours of instruction. Cadets must be required to take two years (12 hours)
of a language. Virtually all liberal arts degreed programs at the best
universities require three years of their graduates and most of them will
never travel or live in a foreign country. Everyone of our graduates deploys
oversees and lives or dies in many foreign countries as part of their mission.
Lastly, I am concerned about the example we set for cadets when the Academy
publically provides special privleges and VIP treatment, especially at
football games to big dollar donors and often shun the COLs and LTCs who
have given 22-30 years of selfless service to the Army in what one would
think is the role model for cadets. What is the message we send when cadets
see that treatment of the 3-5 year Army service grad who goes out and makes
lost of money while his or her classmates devote their lives to the betterment
of the Army. Do we ever tell cadets those officers are to be emulated?
Just becasue they are not generals does not mean they are not what we want
future cadets to be like. I would rather see us promoting those guys as
the model instead of the rich guys who left the Army early because it not
pay them enough or becasue they were not generals or colonels in 3-5 years.
Most of those guys got out ot the Army because they could not be great
company commanders. Why should we treat them so special in front of cadets
now that they are commercially successful. How often does a passed over
major or LTC get invited to the Loge or to one of the formal tailgates
to "mix" with cadets and senior leaders? (never)
[234] The mission (in today's world) must emphasize "building leaders
for the nation" as opposed to just the military. We all understand many
grads leave after their commitment. But even graduates that are "lifers"
staying in 20-30 years enter civilian society in the prime of their lives
(42 - 52 years old). They must understand more about how their leadership
talents could/should be used outside of the military to benefit the nation.
We all subliminally know this.... but we need to cull it out, and educate
our cadets on this phenomenon from day one. Their expectations of leadership
do not end when they take the uniform off.
[235] I am concerned that our efforts at getting out the word that
USMA now needs financial support is not going well. I have heard from some
classmates that their societies feel that USMA needs to do some belt-tightening
before they will give money. I know that USMA has already done that, but
apparently that word is not getting out.
[236] Strategic planning Role of football in USMA's self-image Physical
plant problems
[237] Quite candidly I am concerned that a West Point graduate is
not availabe to head up OPE. By selecting a Non graduate to me says that
in today's Army there is not a graduate qualified for the job and I do
not believe that!
[238] I am concerned with any mission statement that does not include
words such as "a career in the Army - or other US services." We are graduating
too many lawyers, gynacologists, brokers - and not enough soldiers. I am
also opposed to the culture that says women should be in combat. I do not
oppose women in the service and, in fact, I worked for a very professional
female MG in the Pentagon in the 60s.
[239] 1. Bowing to "politically correct" organizations to make West
Point more "sensitive" of "diversity." 2. Gender-norming. 3. Loss of "warrior
culture."
[240] The general trend appears to lose sight of the Academy as extreme
of training and character. Attempts to make training and atmosphere 'more
Army-like' is a travesty. Unfortunately, the Army does NOT constitute a
high level of integrity and professionalism as a whole. By becoming overly
concerned with an all-inclusive policy and 'recycling' cadets, and by obsessing
on 'consideration of others,' the Academy is becoming a management school,
not a leadership school. A leaders, not necessarily all commanders, know
the importance of respect being accorded to all soldiers, and the requirement
to hold himself (herself)to a higher standard. All too often, being accepted
and a 'buddy' has surplanted the 'harder right.' Reports of honor ambiguity
(such as bed stuffing)relate a lessening of the high standard of integrity
that the Academy should be espousing. Irrespective of the cost involved
or the 'self-esteem,' more cadets should be separated for not meeting the
standard, not given multiple chances.
[241] Is this the third change to the mission statement???
[242] Yes, but I think they are not addressable by the academy.
[243] o the loss of traditional "cadet life" in lieu of: relaxed
privileges, o less military training courses during the year ( I understand
the old tactics course is now a several week block of instruction during
the year) o too great of an influence by non-comms
[244] Differences in standards between genders of Cadets Lowering
of dicipline standards for Cadets Weakening of the diciplinary system Differences
between West Point Cadet experience and the Army experience. i.e. no daily
unit PT, regular range fires, regular field excercises I did more time
in the field at ROTC than I did when I was a WP Cadet (yes I did both programs)
[245] I wish you had a list of the major points that the Supe is
trying to accomplish in this survey.
[246] 1. Emphasis on retention at USMA dilutes the quality of our
product. 2. Emphasis on retention in the Army as measure of success is
silly given the Amry's desire to not have people stay in.
[247] i'm probably not as familiar as i'd like to be with the process.
however, i am quite pleased with the direction the Army has taken in the
past 10-15 years.
[248] Funding Academic Chairs particularly in Leadership
[249] Overall I'm happy with the direction, but feel it needs better
communication to include some debate in the Assembly. Just because the
Supt, Dean etc. say so doesn"t sway the old grads.
[250] Standards of Cadet Discipline
[251] Not educated enough to make a judgement
[252] Despite denial, there is still suspicion that the Master of
the Sword selection was political and that the chosen candidate did not
apply but was solicited.
[253] sounds like again, they do not really acknowledge the fact
that many grads can make a contribution to the civilian sector. Of course,
the goal is to stay in and serve the US through a career in the Army, but
not everyone can be a general, etc. Let's just get our head out of the
sand. It is still worth it for the academy to have a grad for 5 years of
military service, and then for a lifetime as a steward of the education
he/she received.
[254] Put the military back in Military Academy, to include 4 years
of MS classes.
[255] Moral values, ethics, and the desire to get ahead vice serve
the country and the troops in the best possible way no matter what the
sacrifice. The "young" graduates I've met don't seem to have the character
to stand up and be counted and are not risk takers ie they take "...the
easier wrong rather then the harder right." That's obviousily a personal
opinion from limited observation.
[256] Loss of the Warrior Spirit in the Corps
[257] The limited amount of active duty time being required of some
graduates is disturbing.
[258] Increasingly lax direction/focus towards/on discipline in the
Corps of Cadets.
[259] See comments above. We really need to refine our vision of
USMA's unique contribution versus the cost. This is no longer clear.
[260] I would like more information upon which to base an opinion.
[261] I think that the degredation of the 4th class system is dangerous
and sad. I'm sure that this is not a unique opinion.
[262] Women at WP Type of degree (what was wrong with Civil Eng ?)
Combat arms vs anything else
[263] Is there a mission statement (i.e. Hype-less, non fundraising
bull) of these changes? I think the cadets need some civilian job hunting
skills provided before graduation, and possibly these should be funded
by AOG, and taught by AOG volunteers.... a series of representatives from
different industries plus a few recent and old grads mixture for balance
would be ideal.
[264] Movement away from a single 'Core' academic program to a laundry
list of electives. Elimination of the requirement that graduates serve
in the combat arms. Apparent efforts to maintain the size of the Corps
beyond the need of the Army for career officers.
[265] Supe's suggested mission statement may set up USMA for publicly
perceived failure by saying that the mission is to insire cadets to a career
of service in the Army. Most don't serve a career and so many even get
out before 5 years!
[266] 1. Moving away from a rigorous science/engineering curriculum
to more liberal arts oriented majors. 2. Reducing the rigor of beast barracks.
3. Expansion of priviledges in all classes at the cost of discipline as
an aspect of daily life. 4. Encouraging pursuit of studies that are more
oriented to civil pursuits than service in the Army at the entry level
and even beyond.
[267] I think that the political correctness is pervading and going
too far.
[268] I haven't been following this closely so it's difficult to
say whether I have any concerns.
[269] adequate emphasis on ethical conduct; not just avoiding honor
violations or demerits. closer contact between cadets and graduates, other
than those at west point; perhaps during reunions, etc. I believe that
cadets would find the range of accomplishments and the quality of the people
to be inspirational.
[270] We should be concerned about keeping the Corps of Cadet size
constant despite a reduction in the overall Army troop strength. We should
work to reduce the required service time after graduation (graduates should
want to stay in the service because of it's high quality not because of
a legal contract) We should work to return RA status to all our graduates.
We must support the Superintendent in improving our athletic facilities
so they are the best available.
[271] In reading the comments on the Forum, I believe there are others
who will put forth more elequently than I, the reservations I have toward
the present direction that West Point is heading. Suffice to say that I
think the non-academic portion is dumbing down to the current level of
the GAP and I think it is a violation of everything West Point stands for.
[272] Will followup by letter
[273] Yes, Failure of the USMA administration to support the repeal
of the law denying regular army commissions to academy graduates upon graduation!!!!
[274] The closer West Point becomes to a civilian ROTC program the
harder it is to justify the expense. Over my 40 years since graduation
I have watched the decline in discipline of the Corps and the relaxation
of demands upon Cadets time. Firsbee and cookouts in Central Area reflect
this decline. The elimination of punishment tours is another indication
of change. I will wait and see about Conference USA, but the performance
of Army football in 1997 leaves alot to be desired. What happened to the
"fields of friendly strife" I can answer this in a more informed way after
our 40th Reunion in May.
[275] Beast Barracks is becoming too "politically correct." The new
cadets were trucked out to Camp Frederick instead of marching. The previous
two female Commanders of Beast (officers not cadets) were unsuited to the
task--not grads and made decisions without understanding consequences.
The new Commandant has declared Plebe duties (mail, laundry, newspaper
delivery, calling minutes, etc.) to be personal services and intends to
stop them. There is no "pinging" currently -- what will constitute a 4th
class year?
[276] The general direction is of concern. Fund raising at the top
of the list. The "brochure" put out to justify fund raising was very poor.
May need a new Supe and a new team to get the mess cleaned up. Do we need
to cut staff in AOG??
[277] As always, USMA reflects changing US defense requirements.
The dilemma: retain core values while planning for the inevitable end of
the single-Service alignment of it and the other Service Academies.
[278] Very few grads are serving out full careers (20-30 yrs) in
the active Army. I think this is one source of criticism of USMA's relevance.
If the downward trend continues, I'm afraid it will be fair to say that
USMA has failed the nation.
[279] MICHIE STADIUM SKY BOX PROGRAM AND ATHLETIC OFFICE FACILITIES
[280] very concerned with: - increasing population of civilian instructors
at USMA - graduates receiving Reserve Commissions
[281] I think USMA should focus more on developing officers for the
combat arms. The experience there should be the place to train the best
combat officers. Other branches can be filled from other commisioning sources.
[282] The one area I am concerned about, based on what several of
my Lieutenants have said, is that as more and more emphasis is placed on
education and concern for others, less and less time is paid to the development
of the warrior spirit. The bottom line of USMA is still to develop value-based
leaders--who have the will to win. I am saddened by the numbers of great
leaders that have stacked arms in the last few years. I know that is inevitable
in a drawdown force, but we must never lose sight of the fact that there
are still battles to be won. I hope that those who make the decisions include
the emphasis on the Never Quit and Can Do attitude--throughout a career.
[283] Concerned that tha Academy's conceswsions to the popular trend
toward political correctness may compromise focus on winning wars
[284] ...for a lifetime career as an offier of the Regular Army--that's
where we should go---who are we kowtowing to ,to change this?
[285] 1. Policies seem designed to appeal to current trends, jargon,
and politics -- this may have always been the case. 2. IMHO policies should
be anchored in bedrock and not subject to compromise or temporizing.
[286] 1. Availability to cadets of guidance, counseling and instruction
on moral behavior of military leaders. 2. Tactical department oversight
of upperclass interaction with and influence on 4th class... my concern
is that impressionable plebes will pick up and pass on inappropriate leader
behaviors, much as an abused child tends to later become an adult abuser.
This issue overarches class year, gender,and generation at USMA in my opinion.
[287] i am not certain that the evolving mission of the USMA is good
for the long-haul. I understand the need to evolve, but it seems like the
focus is being diminished.
[288] 1. I am concerned about the policies that have been implemented
by certain engineering departments that erode academic and military standards.
It appears to me that the Department of Systems Engineering uses low academic
standards and easy course material to try to compete to get the maximum
number of cadets to sign up for areas of concentration and fields of study.
These large numbers of cadets ultimately entitles the department to a larger
faculty and more influence in the academic circles of the Academy. However,
it fosters an attitude among cadets that standards are not important. Most
cadets feel that they are entitled to at least a C minus grade just for
showing up to class on a daily basis. An analysis of grades awarded by
the department will probably show that this cadet attitude is not unwarranted.
2. I am concerned that the Academy is trying too hard to protect the cadets
from themselves, especially when it comes to potential honor violations.
For example, there was an honor case where a cadet allegedly cheated on
the two mile run, but was found not guilty. The finding may have been flawed,
but it does not warrant the knee jerk reaction of changing the two mile
run route to make it harder for a cadet to cheat.
[289] Quality of graduates
[290] There are entirely too many majors and courses offered that
have nothing to do with a career in the Armed Services. A waste of money
and slots.
[291] Quit telling us all is hunky dory there as far as developing
a military cadet. It ain't Tell us more about the rundown of facilities
so we know what needs letter writing help to the cretins in Congress.
[292] I lack a strong sense of how the Academy will survive, much
less thrive, between now and the next national mobilization. Perhaps this
is understood by all other grads but me...
[293] I guess, like many graduates, I worry about standards slipping
with the new four calss system, versus the fourth calss system. Working
under extreme stress was something that I learned at the academy and something
that I used during my service in the army. I hope that new graduates will
still have that ability!
[294] Same old thing--'progressive' change is good...be careful not
to erode any of the traditions.
[295] The USMA is a federal institution and as such should be governed
and administered by the American People rather than a select group of graduates.
[296] Please continue to emphasize and communicate a high level of
academic excellence. The "B.S" degree from USMA should continue to command
respect in terms of the highest possible intellectual standards.
[297] There should be fund raising for non-appropriated activities
only. There needs to be more focus upon CADETS, the purpose of the institution.
[298] NO more area tours??? I disagree with this direction.
[299] 1. Integrating Consideration of Others continues to be very
important. Continued emphasis on Schofield's Definition of Discipline.
2.
[300] I'm concerned that a relaxing of the fourth class system and
cadet regulations in general, might take away from the spartan nature of
the West Point experience. The more we emulate and venerate the atmosphere
and freedoms of a "real" college, the more we risk becoming one.
[301] How do we define and measure mission accomplishment & progress?
What are examples of progress? Who agrees w/ these measures? Have the ideals
taught at West Point changed within the grads? How would you measure this?
[302] I am very concerned that WP is on a slippery slope with all
this emphasis on outside fund raising.
[303] I am concerned that the mission of the Academy will be adversely
impacted by recent emergemce of political correctness. Sensitivity towards
others is very important but overemphasis detracts from learning to work
together and in some cases further separates groups
[304] Concern about combining all academies into one commissioning
unit or doing away with the academies as a result of the thought that ROTC
is just as good.
[305] I have become disenchanted with the TQM process. Primarily
because of all the "hype" Successful mission statements almost always bubble
up and can easily be heard by those who listen. Organised Mission Statements
seem to give you the kind of mission statement the organization wants to
ratify its existance.
[306] Should re-institute regular commissions for graduates.
[307] I get the feeling that the courses are being watered down to
the point that the students do not have to take the "hard" courses. My
experience has been that the study discipline of the "hard" courses have
been what has made the West Point education far above the norm.
[308] 1. Women at West Point..low standards...quotas. 2. Current
lack of structure and discipline. It has become a coed university in uniform.
3. Too many cadets for today's requirements. Go back to 2400 until needs
increase. 4. No regular commissions for grads...incredible!! 5. Academic
offerings too diverse. USMA seems to be trying to compete with major civilian
schools. It can't, and shouldn't be trying. 6. USMA should be focusing
on graduating CAREER minded COMBAT soldiers, not academicians nor combat
support people.
[309] Maintain the original ideals established long ago. I believe
the United States' Constitution and Bill Of Rights are slowly being changed
by society and ideals are being compromised. I do not want to see that
happen to USMA. Restating a mission is a powerful act and can not being
taken lightly. Be steadfast in duty, honor, country.
[310] Degeration of Training ie,termination of military tng of serving
penality tours marching on the areaand the rapid delution of the plebe
system
[311] USMA must somehow deal with the problem of where graduates'
focus lies - the Army or elsewhere. I don't feel that subject is taken
as seriously as it needs to be.
[312] I believe we are headed down the wrong avenue with our attempts
to main stream the Academy into looking more like a "civilian" institution.
Maintaining a highest standard of excellence in every aspect is what seperates
West Point from all others!
[313] I think we need to get back to basics of providing officers
to the U.S. ARMY. Everyone shpould do at least one tour in a combat Arm.
Medical School, Law School etc. should be delayed until after a first tour
in the Army.
[314] Changes, changes, changes Col Hallums (we have no input to
weigh) Mistress of the Sword (another bomb dropped without warning) Educational
priorities RA Commissions You want more?
[315] General agreement; however, there seems to be too much emphasis
on political correctness and "warm fuzzy" leadership.
[316] Changes, changes, too many changes, all sprung upon us without
warning. Each Supe does his little things, but the sum over the years is
horrendous. Col Hallums (we have NO evidence to weigh) Mistress of the
Sword (Another bomb dropped wihout warning) Priorities for Cadet time.
Is the USMA "just another Ivy League school"? Is that the intent? And there
are more.
[317] Se earlier response above regarding priorities...
[318] The Academy has become so politically correct it is disgusting.
Graduates currently serving as instructors do not support the direction
of the Academy and actively work against the direction of the current superintendent.
New graduates lack the level of integrity and dedication normally observed
in USMA lieutenants. I commanded for over three years, during which time
the reputation of USMA graduates significantly declined due to poor performance
by junior officers. More than one USMA lieutenant was relieved for leadership/integrity
deficiencies. The Superintendent constantly points out the high graduation
rate for cadets. To me that shows a weakness--we are not weeding out poor
performers early on. The Academy will deny this, but I have seen it first
hand as a line commander in a combat unit.
[319] Loss of focus on military training and too much increased emphasis
on academics. USMA is a military school first and academia second.
[320] I share many concerns but lack factual data to comment. Perhaps
the USMA product is really much better than it once was. I am willing to
assume so.
[321] current commandant's zeal in making west point more like the
army in my view is a mistake. we should be trying to make the army more
like west point. i believe by trying to change west point to be more like
the army we will be losing much of what has made west point special--instead
we appear to be on the road to being an expensive rotc experience for the
cadets.
[322] It is my understanding that, under the current version of the
honor code, a cadet's honor may be used against them. For example, in ancient
days of yore, a cadet could not be asked a question regarding a minor infraction
and forced to choose between a few hours on the area (or perhaps many hours)
and a violation of the honor code. I understand the need for efficiency
in the operation of the Tactical Department, but our judicial code prohibits
requiring someone to incriminate themself. Had this been the practice when
I was a cadet, we would have all been mince meat for having stolen the
tank and driven it through the senior officers' housing area on the way
to the front of Washington Hall!
[323] Too much diversity in the education. Too much straying away
from the old mission: a lifetime career as an officer in the Army.
[324] Sad football team this year "Sensitivity training" sounds BOGUS
Plebe English is no longer tough enough; they should be responsible for
training writing skills
[325] It seems to me that with an anti-military president, the Point
would lose it's importance. Is there any way to prevent this from happening?
For example, going "private"?
[326] Insufficient informatino to answer.
[327] Cadet training needs to improve in etiquette. I am amazed that
2LT West Point officers sometimes appear unaware of basic officer qualities.
A West Point officer needs to set a standard of excellence - there appears
to be a trend to "fit in" versus chosing the harder right. Note I am aware
that society as a whole is less concerned with etiquette, but I do not
accept that as an excuse to lower expectations of West Point officers.
[328] I think our new focus give those who want to close the academy
a strong foot by focusing our efforts on becoming a military officer. With
so many changes in the "system" the focus need to be developing leaders
for our country either in the military or civil service.
[329] I'm slightly concerned about the ability of the academy to
attract quality civilian faculty without offering tenure. I understand
the downside of tenure, but we need to ensure that we are not getting the
mafginal academic performers that cannot get hired at civilian universites.
I am not calling for a change in policy at this point, but I do think a
very honest appraisal of the quality of the civilian faculty should be
an ongoing process and if poicy needs to be adjusted to ensure high quality
the various option, including tenure, are given full consideration. I also
understand the ongoing efforts between the Dean's office and Milpercen
to attract quality military faculty and I applaud these efforts. I am somewhat
disturbbed, howeve, by what I am hearing from junior officers, i.e., that
Academy faculty time is looked upon as being less than career enhancing.
I understand that the tight competition for bn cmd and the dictates of
the Goldwater-Nichols act have made timing of grad school & Academy
faculty time very dicey. What can/should that Academy and theArmy at large
do to counteract this? Not sure, but think the issue needs to be out on
the table. The bottom line is that the Academy pays back the Army ten-fold
for the time given up to get a grad education and teach.. This payback
comes in the form of increased capabiolity, and NOT just for academy graduates.
Perhaps we need a pr campaign that highlights the contributions of former
Faculty members to the Army and the Nation. I think the history and Soc
depts could offer a lot here, but I'm sure the other depts could help as
well.
[330] Combat arms for women graduates; more strenuous program for
women undergraduates.
[331] Most of the information I have received is hearsay, but I am
very concerned about what I have heard. It appears that if the trend continues,
the only a few things will distinguish cadets from college pukes: 1. Most
basic needs met while in school. 2. Wear uniforms and attend formations.
3. Have a commitment to serve at a low salary level after graduation. I
advocate and would support a return to Old Corps ways of doing things.
I know Old Corps means something different to every year group, but my
understanding is that things are slipping quickly. The Supe "including
graduates in the development" of its mission? What kind of crap is that?
When I was an officer, I received my orders and executed them. Period.
My military was not a democracy, and a democratic military will not survive.
This whole issue is absurd, insulting, and will prove to be devastating
to the Academy.
[332] Regular Army Commissions
[333] I have a concern about televisions being installed in cadet
rooms. One of the most postive influences in my stay at West Point was
the absence of television. Individual sets in rooms with the ability to
access normal programming will ruin study habits and polarize the Corps.
With all the funding issues currently facing USMA, installation of televisions
in cadet rooms is a waste of money and counterproductive.
[334] Liberalization/'political correctness' replacing tradition.
While Respect for Others is certainly a fine ideal, putting it on an equal
basis with the Academy Honor System reeks of PC. The elimination of walking
the area is yet another time-honored tradition that served a purpose and
served it well that has gone by the wayside. It was one of those things
that 'set West Point apart'. Extra duty may be more like the Army, but
it takes away some of the Academy's special uniqueness.
[335] 1. No RA commission 2. Too much civilian faculty (couldn't/wouldn't
work when funding was held up) 3. Inadequate federal funding 4. Deteriorating
physical plant
[336] The movement to majors within the program is going to cause
the Academy to start to lose it's uniqueness. I eventually see the Academies
consolidated into a Sandhurst-type program of about a year that all officers
attend. The argument against that is becoming harder to make.
[337] loss of traditions, relaxing of the M in USMA
[338] Have not seen or heard of any serious discussions or studies
about down sizing USMA now that the Army has been downsized. Is it time
to go back to two regiments and 3600 cadets?
[339] Too much emphasis on academic credentials to the detriment
of the military and physical programs; deviance from the "spartan" lifestyle
mentioned in West Point 2002.
[340] Extremely concerned about quality of academic program and its
directions!!!!
[341] 1.It's affiliation with Conferance USA 2.It's emphasise on
"Consideration of Others" 3. The appointment of a female non-grad as Master
of the Sword when other more qualified grads are available. 4. The over
civilianization of the academic department. 5. The apparant demilitarization
of the curriculum. 6. The failure to select the "Warrior" leader as Superintendant
for at least the past three Supes. 7. The "assignment" Spirit units 8.
The wearing of camoflouge make-up at athletic activities. 9. Locks on doors
10. Optional meals 11. The demise of the Fourth Class System 12. The tinkering
with the Honor Code
[342] I like the renewed focus on USMA providing leaders for the
Army first, nation second.
[343] As mentioned above, consolidated fund raising.
[344] I am concerned about the direction all the Armed Services are
headed. The civilian and senior military leadership appear to believe that
the services are a combination of a grand social experiment, a source of
pork barrel funding, and a life of rank and privilege. An Army that justifies
an elisted female living in quarters with the base commander by stating
that she isn't under his command isn't the Army I joined almost 20 years
ago. The Academies are the place to instill a resistance to the 'perfumed
prince' (borrowed from David Hackworth) syndrome I see more and more in
the news.
[345] TWO MATTERS OF CONCERN: A WOMEN AS MASTER OF THE SWORD NO RA
COMMISSIONS FOR GRADUATED CADETS.
[346] I believe the mission statement should reflect that USMA's
purpose is to prepare career leaders for operations conducted by our Army.
A more simple statement is better. Stating that a goal is lifelong service
to the Nation implies and may even encourage graduates to leave active
service for any position which can be articulated to provide some "service"
to the nation. We must return to our roots. West Point makes leaders of
soldiers for the purpose of leading them in hostilities.
[347] Reported preferential treatment for female cadets. Reported
de-emphasis on military aspects of academy life, and an environment more
like civilian colleges. Reports that civilian P's dress very casually in
the class room, and are not well groomed.
[348] USMA PREP ENTRY PROCEDURES WOMEN AT WP MAKING WP "JUST ANOTHER
TOP SCHOOL" SYSTEM TOO LAX ETC.
[349] My concerns were forwarded to our class 3 man committee which
was formed by the class president to address this item specifically. Am
awaiting the results.
[350] Size in a reduced force. Role of athletics at the Academy.
Preparing graduates for more than the service.
[351] I don't like the "civilianization" of the faculty. I have BSes
from USMA and a "civ." university and the Master degreed p's at USMA were
far better than any of the PhDs I had in the "real world"!
[352] Supt's remarks this fall at the 67 30th reunion were well presented
and good but, it is appalling that the athletic facilities and training
for conditioning facilities are not absolutely superb. There is such a
correlation between the physical and mental traits of an officer and the
experiences in athletics - it seems shameful that the academy and congress
have let the facilities erode or not keep up with what could they be --
to identify certain facilities as not supporting the mission of the academy
and therefore not worthy of congressional funds lacks wisdom of what cadets
need to fully develope or to even be attracted to the academy before admission.
[353] Technical issues that I will express to the appropriate officials
a the proper time.
[354] I was extremely disappointed that USMA discontinued the Varsity
Rifle Team, but my faith was somewhat renewed when the Team's status was
reinstated recently. My last visit to USMA was several years ago, but at
that time I noticed that the physical facilities, especially the cadet
barracks, were in pretty bad shape.
[355] I do not believe women should occupy slots at USMA, under its
current mission. I am a father of a daughter and believe in equal rights
for women, but do not believe women should be cultivated in the USA for
combat slots (this is not Israel). I am glad women can have a chance at
at a quality education at USMA, but opting for this privilege at the expense
of preparing males for combat roles is misguided. I know this is not politically
acceptable now in our country, but you asked.
[356] I have confidence in the Superintendent.
[357] 1. See some timeless traditions going away. Little continuity
as leadership changes. West Point shouldn't have to flail like the rest
of the Army. 2. Often see change simply for changes sake. 3. Why change
the mission again? (& and again and again...)
[358] I am appalled at the feminization of the military and its effect
on USMA and its leadership.
[359] Declining amount of military procedure/regimentation in cadet
daily life
[360] Poor communication of exactly what direction USMA is headed.
Must avoid making it too much like any other college as that makes it harder
to justify cost before Congress.
[361] USMA getting lax on discipline and honor and concentrating
more on academics.
[362] Maintaining Military Profs.
[363] 1) Increasing no. of civilian faculty 2) New retention policy
for New Cadet Training
[364] concerned that West Point is, by becoming more "politically
correct", no longer the elite institution it once was. We are on a high
road to "ordinariness" and will be just another coeducational liberal arts
academy if we do not seek to instill the warrior spirit in not only the
Corps, but also the staff and faculty. Reduce the size of the Corps, and
return it to the front of the parade.
[365] Concerned with apparently a short term focus on infrastructure,
expecially the luxury box concept for Michie stadium. Need to Beat Navy
again. This year's game was an embarassment.
[366] Where is the warrior concept/Have we lost it? I dpon't know
but I have seen nothing that says we still have it. Are we losing sight
of our mission? I worry about my doubts and the doubts raised by others,
largely unanswered.
[367] The moving away from a school for military leaders toward just
another ivy league school with little memory of the traditions which make
USMA great.
[368] Recent graduates seem to be lacking the military discipline
the older graduates have.
[369] USMA is too big and too expensive; doctoring the mission statement
is simply a word game which simply has not been very interesting or valuable.
[370] The usual concerns of "the Corps Has...". I think that we are
too concerned with political correctness rather than the process of instilling
discipline and training cadets for the future job they will be asked to
perform; leading our nations military in time of war.
[371] There should be more outlets and venues for cadets to be able
to employ personal talents such as creativity, initiative and charismatic
leadership. Likewise, these talents should be included as evaluation criteria
in performance ratings, as they are all essential in leadership in "the
real world," as I have learned through experience.
[372] "Watered down" fourth class system. I always thought that the
purpose of the Academy was to produce leaders for our nation's Army, which
exists to defend the nation in time of war--or keep it from war by preparing
for war. Combat is a stressful situation, and can never be replicated.
But it can be simulated. I believe that putting a young cadet through as
much mental, physical, and emotional stress is his or her first taste of
simulated combat. This may sound corny, but we don't conduct football practice
for a winning team by letting the players relax. We do it by placing as
much stress on them as possible, so that on game day when they experience
the "real" thing, they have the confidence, the knowledge, the experience
to deal with those realities. And I'm sure all the stress has'nt been taken
out of the plebes' environment. But I do understand that many of the old
, and yes, traditional stressors have been removed. Do the new ones measure
up? Lets not mess something up that is'nt necessarily broken--something
that has proven itself time and again.
[373] I provided comments to the Supe via e-mail. Essentially, what
concerns me is translating the somewhat lofty mission statement into goals
and objectives that are meaningful at the Tac Officer level so we can train
cadets where the rubber meets the road. I can provide my letter electronically
if you are interested or if it will help.
[374] I'm not completely familar with conditions presently at West
Point. However, from what I have heard mostly from word of mouth, I am
concerned that standards are getting too slack.
[375] 1. Political interests which tend to use the Army and the Military
Academy as social science experiments for our society. 2. Feminization
of the Army and the Military Academy.
[376] WP needs to keep its focus on tradition. Eliminating area tours,
allowing 2d class to have cars, etc. really bothers me and everyone else
I talk with about this issue.
[377] I would like to see more emphasis on minority recruitment and
retention.
[378] Degradation of many USMA traditions. Someone should do a comparison
of what has occurred from year to year, but what has been lost in the past
10, 25 and 50 years.
[379] Yes, the tendency of the Academy to rely on alumni funds to
meet what are essentially operating expenses or needs (i.e. cadet activities,
facilities)
[380] USMA as a producer of combat arms, career oriented officers
of character
[381] Concerned that West Point may eventually go away, the RA commissions
being filled with ROTC cadets.
[382] I (and many graduates) are uneasy about what we see as a continuing
trend to make West Point just another college.
[383] the removal of the area and the plebes pinging and the shortening
of the march back and to lake during beast. It seems they are no longer
trying to make it difficult. 100% graduation should not be a goal. High
retention is good but the development of fewer good leaders should take
priority
[384] Lessening of discipline through personal appearance, loss of
traditional values as indicatated by behavior. The liberalization of the
academy to better accomodate civilain values has probably gone too far.
some will argue that the distinction between USMA and ROTC is blurring--this
is exactly the wrong message in times of shrinking budgets.
[385] 1. Curriculum is too diversified and detracts from producing
the "traditional" USMA product (an officer trained in systematic problem
solving). 2. Recent graduates do not seem committed to the military as
an institution.
[386] - Has there been a gradual decline in standards (are there
too many cadets graduating who have not demonstrated their ability and
potential to be professional Army officers)? - Is there too much emphasis
on short-term "macho" activities at the expense of longer-term intellectual
development?
[387] 1) Reference area tours vs community service: Everyone disliked
the area---it was a good punishment. Similarly, everyone will grow to dislike
community service when used as punishment. Selfless service to one's community
should be a desirable behavior, not a response to misconduct. True, it
gets more useful projects done, however, it equates selfless service to
negative reinforcement. 2) Respectfully ask the Supt not to strip to the
waist on national TV (Navy bonfire film shown during pregame show). It's
definitely NOT the image I would like to see of the head of the world's
premier military academy.
[388] increase diversity of cadet population
[389] Not aware of development of new mission statement. Where is
USMA heading?!
[390] We have failed to adjust the substance of the curriculm to
the new national security realities that our graduates face. There is far
to little offered in the realm of international organiztions, culture in
other nations, the economic structure of the world, etc.
[391] 1. Selection of academic majors, bring back the core curriculum
with electives. 2. CTLT: send cadets only to units; cease work on sending
them to the Pentagon, U&S staffs, and other places they cannot learn
fundamental leadership or how the Army really runs. 3. Bring back punishment
tours. Some things are unique to the USMA experience 4. Stop trying to
protect PAPs from reductions in force. Refocus on sending the best, brightest,
and competetitive officers to faculty positions you can find. Don't expose
cadets to officers who are retired on active duty, and are not qualified
in their basic MOS's. 5. Find every opportunity you can to show how the
USMA is different, and provides the nation with a professional soldier
who is better than any OCS or ROTC can produce. If you can't, then USMA
is an expensive luxury the taxpayers can ill afford to support.
[392] I am discouraged by the continued "civilianization" of the
Academy. We need always to remember that the purpose of the Academy is
to produce professional officers for the Army of the United States who
will lead our sons (and daughters) in combat to protect and defend our
way of life. This must remain the academy's first and foremost objective.
I believe that such leaders are forged in adversity. Part of this adversity
should be a VERY demanding and challenging, regimented fourth class system.
While I do not believe in hazing (in any way, shape, fashion, or form),
I firmly believe the academy has relaxed cadet restrictions and requirements
far too much. West Point is NOT a college/university. It never has been
and never should be. We need desperately to stop trying to be one.
[393] 1. Civilianization of the faculty- this is a BAD idea. I've
spent 7 years at USMA- 4 as a cadet/3 as faculty and have seen the pros/cons
first hand. The CONs far outweigh the PROs. 2. Movement of USMA from a
teaching institution to a teaching AND research institution (often camoflaged
as "support to the Army"). Closely tied to #1 above, this is a bad direction
to head in. Given a fixed amount of resources (time, energy) cadets (teaching)
will suffer.
[394] West Point should consider post-graduate education -- offering
it to non-grad Army officers as well -- perhaps some distance learning-type
offerings to augment the mostly technical post-graduate stuff offered to
officers by the US Army schools system
[395] Clear focus on discipline, and not just becoming another college
with an ROTC program.
[396] Changing many of the traditions, such as, the Fourth class
System, Area Tours, excessive off-post privileges, restricted access to
Thayer Road in the cadet area in front of the Administration Building and
the library.
[397] The Superintendent's attempts to get graduate funding of essential
operational functions is misguided and is liable to affect graduate support
of the AOG. That pit is bottomless, and not a function for donations...as
currently conceived. It can be done if carefully constructed, but the AOG
must make that a prominent separate area of funding support that does not
detract from normal AOG functions.
[398] Women, discipline, the Fourth Class System
[399] Gert Usma back to basics. Have the guts to at least make women
into a separate entity of the Corps. The present situation is ridiculous.
You say you teach Duty, Honor Country and you put locks on doors. You have
so many clubs your'e going broke supporting them. You treat cadets as college
students not as future leaders. West Point should be a unit to train combat
officers, not a unit to train finance officers and medical doctors. The
next thing you lnow you'll have a specialty for traning nurses-- or do
you already?
[400] Concerned when Lieutenants are getting out before there 5 year
committment is up. Is that the duty that we are getting across to our young
leaders.
[401] I heard that USMA was moving toward more civilian professors.
I think that this move is not in the best interests of the Academy. Academically,
having one or two select civilian professors in each Department is great
because of the talent they bring. To extend that to a certain percentage
(20-25%) of the faculty would be a mistake. Bringing in new blood (officers
fresh from graduate school)each year through the current system ensures
that we expose the cadets with the latest and greatest technologies and
procedures from the universities throughout the country (academics) and
the army as a whole (leaders/role models). Tenured civilian professors
will get academically "stale" over time and few that I have been associated
with bring the "role model" characteristics we want the cadets to emulate.
Navy tried it and is now in full retreat. Let's not have to personally
learn the errors of this staffing process.
[402] Major effort for me. See my comments above. I'll have more
on this later.
[403] Need more time to think about this. There are concerns that
I have but do not have time right now to compose thoughts in a logical
manner. This should be sent to graduates as a separate item with time to
respond.
[404] USMA needs a more proactive approach to defending itself and
its mission.
[405] 1.Too many cadets 2. Relaxation of standards (e.g.) early recognition,
too many first class privileges
[406] I must say that the Hallums affair in BS&L concerns me.
I served with COL Hallums on two occasions and support his leadership style
completely. I suspect that most subordinates outside of BS&L share
this opinion. I also have personal friends in the BS&L faculty that
remained loyal to their Department Head. I fear the "softer side" won that
conflict and perhaps the Academy's azimuth is getting away from training
warriors.
[407] a. Failure to press DA and interested Members of Congress for
RA commissions for graduates upon graduation. b. New Cadet Barracks is
two weeks too short. c. Fourth Class year should be more demanding, more
strenuous. d. Academy Professor program should be scrapped (only Dept heads
and "not" heads should be permanent. e. Scrap BS&L, reconstitute MP&L
under the Tactical Dept. f...z. Space does not permit.
[408] I am not happy with the fact that the superintendent accepts
the ruling that graduates now receive reserve commissions. I believe it
considerably diminishes the stature of the academy.
[409] As a veteran of 20 years in various positions in higher education,
it is clear to me that West Point is drifting toward a new purpose for
existence. The problem is that no one seems to recognize it yet.
[410] -"New Age" approach to discipline which may not produce the
results necessary to succeed under extremely stressful situations - Rumored
lack of control over the mingling of the sexes resulting in numerous allegations
of rape and other conduct unbecoming of cadets - lack of a Regular Army
commission and other career management issues which make it seem that the
Academy is not a special place, but rather just "another college"
[411] I am concerned about who USMA is bringing back to teach, especially
the senior leadership. I think that the Academy Professors and PUSMA's
being selected have no recent Army experience and clearly do not know or
understand the Army they are training leaders for.
[412] Not quite knowing how to get after the issue, I do remain concerned
in the drift of the Academy away from its former goal of instilling in
cadets a desire for a lifetime of service to the Army. If that is not the
focus, the Academy will continue to drift and be subject-- perhaps rightfully--
to cries for its demise. Whether or not this factor has affected the declining
proportion-- dramatically so?-- in the number of USMA general officers
on active duty is a question worth some research.
[413] lack of focus on producing combat leaders vs. managers
[414] You had better consider reducing the size of the Corps before
someone does it for you. We do not need that many graduates now.
[415] Not really familiar with the direction of USMA development
by the Supe.
[416] Dissatisfied with the de-emphasis on MILITARY service in the
mission statement and elsewhere. Dissatisfied that the shrinking of the
military is resulting of a shrinking of the core (USMA) of the future officer
pool as opposed to a shrinking of the periphery (ROTC) back onto the core.
Pleased with the ongoing modernization of the facility. Pleased with the
appearance of cadets seen at Oct. 97 reunion. Pleased with the new direction
of the cadet leadership program away from the "old yeller" mode to the
more Schofield oriented direction, although I have not watched first hand
the implementation of these goals. From speaking to classmates working
as instructors, I am pleased with the integration of the honor program
into the information age, as well as the thorough emphasis of information
technology throughout the curriculum. Pleased with AOG giving me this bully
pulpit to ramble on.
[417] Reference Q27: It appears to me that the SUPE has generated
his own program and then tried to foster it off on everyone else. Since
I have not been personally involved and have only the hear say evidence
and what I have seen in the various publications i may be wrong. But, i
suspect not. The SUPE is operating on his own agenda. He may have direction
from the SECARMY and the CSA that has "guided" him. However, the bulk of
the stuff I am seeing appears to be self generated.
[418] The Honor System seems to have relaxed so that penalties for
violation of the Honor Code support the low norms of contemporary society
rather than the higher ideals required of the professional soldier. Unfortunately,
this is just an impression from some articles in the Assembly and in the
press so I cannot express detailed concerns and I could very well be misinformed.
Further information on this aspect of our current cadet culture and training
would be appreciated.
[419] General Christman is retiring at the end of his term at West
Point, and has no agenda other than what will benefit West Point. This
should be followed for future Supes as well.
[420] Need a better football coach and system.
[421] Do not offer a Regular Commission upon graduation and the tendency
to continue expanding the academic curriculum which points to University
status rather than a good basic military academy education . Specialize
after a good basic foundation.
[422] See commentsa above about AOG involvement in capital funding.
[423] Invitations to Comunist to speak to Cadets. Caving in to the
radical feminist movement--as has the CSA and down. The Army has lost its
courage--and it all starts with the USMA.. Stop being "with it" and start
training leaders for combat as used to be the mission of the Academy. I
am thoroughly disgusted. My grandson graduated last June--and I would not
advbise him to stay in this present Army when his commitment is up. It
all starts at the Academy. Let's remember that we train soldier, not managers,
not psychological counselor, not economists, nut SOLDIERS!!! Doesn't anybody
at USMA eremember what that word means? I doubt it. I have absolutely NO
confidence in the present Supe and his administration. (XXXXX). '45,
[424] CLDS - I think that the leadership needs to recognize the dangerous
position of buying into political correctness. Winning a war which is what
you are training these young men & women to do is about killing people
and breaking things - not a nice business - hence we shouldn't be concerning
ourselves with creating a nice Army. The direction the Army and the cadet
training programs have taken is a very dangerous one. Instead of worrying
about political correctness - worry about how we are going to win the next
war (hoping of course that it doesn't come).
[425] Have not studied enough to answer.
[426] I am concerned about Graduates not receiving Regular Army commissions.
I am afraid over time West Point's importance will be diminished, as our
graduates will be compared to ROTC graduates at "lesser" institutions.
It will become harder to justify the expense of maintaining West Point.
USMA will become even more vulnerable to the budget axe.
[427] I still believe women have no place at the service academies.
[428] I have concern about the attempt to raise funds for projects
that ,to me, should be more appropriately funded from appropriations
[429] Reserve Commissions. All WP officers should be Regular Army
unless they opt to choose otherwise.
[430] It seems to me that some of the benefits of usma versus rotc
have been reduced, which is a bad thing and ought be reversed if possible.
[431] Not aware of issues or policies currently on the table.
[432] I'm not really up to speed on where USMA is headed.
[433] Becoming too "stress free" and mainline college. War is not
stress free, nor should training to be a military leader be stress free.
[434] It seems to me that USMA is striving to be "politically correct"
and is becomming just another ivy league school that wears uniforms
[435] The new mission statement is too broad. There waas nothing
wrong with the old statement.
[436] The propsect of hiring of non-military instructors to replace
military instructors - grads and non grads - causes me great concern.
[437] There is not enough emphasis on the ideals of duty, honor and
country
[438] 1. I think Cadets are desiring more firm leadership. They want
a tough, rewarding experience. I have a son who just graduated and worked
beast last year. All I have talked to said it was a joke. 2. Fewer leaves.
Class esprit is lost when "all" cadets are "all" away every eweekend.
[439] Setting the mission to a career in the Army is setting up USMA
for failure. USMA has no control over career progression or troop morale
in the Army and cannot control grads' decisions about getting out. By setting
the mission to full careers, USMA will fail in its mission and provide
those who want to shut it down plenty of ammunition for doing so since
it is failing in its mission.
[440] Losing tradition of past in current 4th class system.
[441] Second class coaches for the athletic programs, Sutton should
have never been given a long term contract, he is below 500 and playing
DivII teams. the A/N game was a discrace.
[442] My understanding is that the new Cadet Chaplain has eliminated
the Cadet Prayer and the Apostle's Creed from the chapel liturgy, and that
Communion is now only offered monthly. If this is true, I am both concerned
and dismayed.
[443] Having attended several home football games this year, I was
amazed at the number of cadets that do not attend the games or leave early.
Twenty years ago this was frowned upon. Seems like the Academy has lost
something in the process if cadets view supporting their athletic teams
as an optional event, when the weather is nice and there isn't something
better to do.
[444] There is not an apparent long-view being taken. The focus,
so far as is apparent in publications, extends no farther than 2002. That
is only the span of one cadet class. "Where there is no vision the people
perish."
[445] As I reflect on my years at the Academy and my subsequent years
as a leader and professional, I am distressed about the amount of negative
leadership that was fostered and the attention to the unimportant issues
of the day. I hope that since the early 1970s the Academy has changed in
these areas and is actively trying to promote positive leadership skills
and techniques while avoiding negative ones, and training cadets to focus
on the important issues of the day and of life and diminish the emphasis
on trivial matters.
[446] Funding.
[447] I agree with the thoughts of the class of 1946 that WP should
get back to bascs of the combined arms and not try to be all things to
all types of degrees.
[448] lets train US Army officers and not try to out- Harvard Harvard
. as all academies are headed I do not see that they are producing any
better product than our ROTC graduates ergo why keep these expensive and
perhaps noncosteffective institutions going retention in career force
[449] The Army doe not PHD types as LTs. The classmates that I have
seen with the most success are the athletic, outgoing type. To often we
are looking for high school students with high board scores, instead of
a bright, charismatic, future LT that can lead soldiers in battle.
[450] relaxation of 4th class system commissioning males in non combat
arms reserve commissions
[451] Your "No" button does not work.
[452] USMA provides leaders of character to serve their country in
the ARMED FORCES. This is not in the mission statement. This deemphasis
is in my opinion a reason for the large number of graduates who are leaving
the military before they have at least completed their commitment.
[453] The A Woman is offensive
[454] Female Cadets should be in separate barracks from Male Cadets.
(Females should not have been admitted in the first place). AOG should
take a stand on the feminization of the Army and other services USMA made
a mistake in letting new graduates go to medical school. That opened the
door for females. USMA was intended in former times to develop "combat"
leaders, not so many for all the non combat branches. I would like to see
the graduates all go to combat arms, unless there is some medical reason
to go to combat service support jobs.
[455] Phyiscal fitness of male and female cadets Billeting of male
and female cadets in same building/floor/etc.
[456] REINSTATEMENT OF REGULAR COMMISSIONS ON GRADUATION-- Would
like to see more support for this from AOG and Supe/Com. Greater Emphasis
on WP graduates restricted to serving in the combat arms -for at least
the first 5 years of service. We should not be in the business of training
doctors,lawyers,psychologists,human relation specialists,etc . Other schools
can do this.
[457] I am concerned over the decision to not grant Regular commisions
to graduates until after a specified number of years of service.
[458] -Too much power held by the Academic heirarchy in structuring
the curriculum.
[459] Emphasize MILITARY. Promote Combat Arms, cut out the gender
norming (if women want to be Cadets, make them cut it with the male cadets
to same physical standards). Restore Regular Commissions in COMBAT arms.
[460] I am not satisfied with the Army football program. I believe
it has a low priority relative to other West Point activities. Football
excellence should be made one of the Academy's operating missions. West
Point has always placed great emphasis on mission accomplishment; this
would help the football program by bringing all Academy elements together.
What has happened to Army football is embarrassing.
[461] Too much emphasis on clubs. No RA commission (not USMA fault)
Don't agree with fatigue details rather than punishment tours. Don't agree
with early recognition of plebes. Don't agree with commissioning grads
in tech services.
[462] I am concerned about the loss of tradition in the fourth class
system. Society in general is experiencing the problems of the decline
of the family. Discipline is being perceived as an infringement on people's
rights. We cannot allow a decline in society to be relayed into the stringent
structure of the Academy and, more importantly, the Army.
[463] Seems sometimes to be trending toward becoming the "USCC--United
States Country Club" in terms of multiplicity of available "fun" activities
that consume cadets' time at the expense of the bonding that comes from
shared experiences.
[464] 1. First, I am NOT one who's all up in the air about women
in combat, a "Mistress of the Sword", etc. That's just today's world. 2.
I am concerned about the fact that few graduates (particularly the top
ones) have any intention of making the Army a career. Ever since the Academy
went to a system of majors, I have felt that the academic focus thereby
pushed out the military focus - supporting such proposals as Larry Korb
and others have made about restructuring the whole system. As I recall,
the mission used to be oriented on graduates' "progressive and continued
development throughout a lifetime career as an officer in the Regular Army."
Take a vote and see how many cadets currently have that in mind - and ask
them why.
[465] We need to get back to Regular Army Commissions
[466] I strongly feel that graduates from the service academies should
be awarded a regular commission. Is his a dead issue?
[467] We seem to be too eager to be "Politically Correct."
[468] Having an avowed communist lecture at West Point
[469] Don't know the long range strategy. Whatever USMA and its direction
is must fuel the tenets of Duty, Honor, Country. The fine are lying, or
quibbling, to forward ones career must not be tolerated. This is one area
where we must seperate ourselves from the morale deacy we see in our country.
[470] Curriculum reduction. Eliminate female cadets
[471] Comments in par. 17 above apply.
[472] Elimination of the 4th Class System
[473] prefer that it not add/change to a grad degree program
[474] Its focus on recruiting qualified candidates from the minority
population.
[475] I strongly believe that women and men should train separately.
The integration of women has diluted the effectiveness of military training
for the men and it is patently obvious when viewing the Corps and talking
with individual members. It is regretable that integration was allowed
in the first place. We should take a step back and train men and women
separately.
[476] Softening R-Day procedures My recommendation is to make the
Field Training much more demanding, both physically and mentally. This
is what our soldiers have to do, so we must know what price they paid to
serve. The academics need to be relaxed to allow for a student atmosphere,
but the summer is time to stress military...and we are a physical military.
Close with and destroy the enemy!
[477] SURVIVAL OF THE SERVICE ACADEMY
[478] The USMA needs to concentrate on the fundamentals of producing
military combat leaders instead of providing a liberal arts education in
competition with civilian universities. Get back to the basics that have
been the hallmark of USMA since its creation, except for the erosion of
standards experienced in recent years.
[479] I am extremely concerned with the proliferation of Civilian
Professors. Although I know my position is not the "party line" at WP,
I have been told by former professors and Cadets that they are out of touch
with the Cadets and do not understand the demands placed on a Cadet. A
few to keep ideas fresh is fine, but DO NOT turn us into another Naval
Academy! A military academy neeeds military examples.
[480] DO NOT REDUCE THE CURRICULEM OR MAKE USMA A MILITARY PREP SCHOOL.
[481] Am worried that rigorous standards of moral, mental, and physical
stamina and character are not being maintained. And that these traditional
standards wane, progressively, in the graduates of later generations.
[482] Military Leadership and the mission of the Academy to train
leaders for combat.
[483] Area Tours Pinging
[484] 1. Prepare graduates to support the mission of the United States
Army. 2. Sexual misconduct in the Army.
[485] 1.Continuing appropriations cut-backs 2.curtailment of long
term career opportunities resulting from reduction in force structure
[486] This response requires more time and thought than I am presently
in a position to give. I will dedicate some time in January to it.
[487] Women at West Point
[488] Quit trying to be another University. Return to mission of
providing best Officers for the RA. Advanced schooling will take care of
itself etc
[489] 1. Concerned about increased civilian professors mandated by
Congress; need to keep that in balance with former grads as professors.
2. More interaction and interface of USMA with the Army at large might
benefit both organiztions, with USMA seen as a resource or think tank for
Army issues, problems. Promote conferences there about primary issues of
concern in the Army, the U.S. and involve Army leadership and cadets, etc.
[490] I am concerned with the military education structure at USMA.
I still believe that a cadet should attend military science classes throughout
the year.
[491] USMA graduates should be awared regularly Army commissions
upon graduation. Date of rank for USMA graduates should precede those of
ROTC graduating in the same year.
[492] -Some of the changes affecting 4th classmen,eg recognition
before june week -Elimination of punishment walking tours -classroom informality
-optional meals -0n-grounds drinking [not a religious or abstinence concern,
but one of good order, discipline and example. Regardless of age, cadets
are cadets] -Honor Code, eg locks on doors to prevent the theft of computers.
Whose idea was it that computers needed to be stored when cadets were on
leave? If the administration, they should be willing to cover the loss
in the unlikely> case an outsider were able to penetrate. If other cadets
or support personnel, what a poor message for the state of integrity and
honor at West Point.
[493] I'm only sorry they did away with Plebe year underscore year.
[494] *At our 40th Class reunion I was chagrined to see that the
Cadet Prayer changed replacing "men" with another politically correct word.
The hypocrisy was heightened when the phrase "suffer not our hatred of
hypocrisy and pretense ever to diminish" followed in its usual position
in the prayer. Academy officials were either unaware that "men" in this
context was not gender specific or they caved into political pressure.
Which one is it - illiteracy or expediency? Don't tell me it was because
we have female cadets there now.
[495] Too much emphasis on diversity and not enough emphasis on homogenity.
[496] Selflessness needs to be a part of the leadership curriculum.
[497] 1. Retention on active duty after completion of commitment.
2. Loss of "warrior spirit" as exemplified by recent statement by the green
suit Beast commander on not glorifying "violence and blood"-get a grip!
3. Aggressively seek more enlisted soldiers for the Prep School or direct
admission.
[498] Major fund raising -- the wealthy will inheirit West Point
in the name of saving it because of insufficient federal $$.
[499] The whole "socialization" approach towards Beast Barracks There
seems to be a general lack of respect towards officers by the cadets There
seems to be a general lack of spirit during football games
[500] Oh boy, do I! West Point has so far drifted away from its core
role in studying the Art of War, producing entry level combat leaders,
who also have a life-long committment to military service, that I think
it needs to seriously reevaluate its direction.
[501] It's difficult to personally assertain. I will visit either
within the next three years (depending on family health). I just want to
see the current institution and products before making a comment.
[502] 1. Do not lower standards to accomodate social programs
[503] Is funding for USMA cadets decreasing or is it a constant struggle
for money?
[504] I feel that the changes which have been implemented the past
school year are not in keeping with some of the good West Point traditions.
I can see the goal of trying to make the transition from cadet to officer
easier by implementing these changes, however I feel that any problems
that graduates have on their own in OBC or otherwise are problems created
by that indiviual. West Point is a military academy and I feel that the
cadets should act as such. I am referencing to the extended privileges
and use of extra furniture, rugs, etc. I did not have these things and
I am not bitter that I did not have them. They would not have helped me
in any way to transition, but probably would have created more relaxed
standards.
[505] I disagree with the Superintendants new USMA Mission statement.
In a time of downsizing in the Arrmy, the new Mission focuses too much
on Military Service, neglecting others ways that graduates can benefit
the nation.
[506] Keeping USMA apolitical. Commitment of new graduates to an
Army career versus being an engineer, political scientist, etc.
[507] Concerned that brick and mortar becoming an alumni responsibility--
The continued fight for appropriated funds must continue. USMA is a public
supported institution. Its value to the country is barely understood by
the majority of Americans. Need to hold to the fundamentals that gave West
Point its character. Duty, Honor, Country are not just words. With a downsized
Army need to relook the size of the Corps---do the reasons for the increase
from 2400 to 4000 still exist? If not, need to revisit the issue.
[508] Stop admission of women immediately
[509] 1. Less "civilianizing" as concerns the faculty. 2. Do not
lose sight of the priority question---what does the Army need from its
officers?
[510] I am concerned about any efforts to water down the unique training
and commission of West Pointers.
[511] The direction USMA is headed with the cuts in the defense budget.
[512] I am concerned that USMA will modify its Mission Statement
resulting in dillution of focus and an increase in complexity. The mission
should remain clear, concise and achievable. When the military loses sight
of these characteristics it ultimately fails, providing politicians and
society at large the opportunity to apply their personal or political agendas.
[513] The selection options on this matter are very narrow. I am
concerned with all the policies and directions, which by their nature are
dynamic. This is not to say dissatisfied; concerned, interested, and anxious
to keep abreast of.
[514] As for walking the area, I see it as one of the dwindling set
of experiences that set grads apart from those who went through the Army's
regular boot camp (or ROTC or OCS). Fatigue details make sense during military
training (summertime) but not the rest of the year. At least not to the
total exclusion of the more traditional methods. What's next? Dropping
cadet grey in favor of Army green? We may as well be living it up at Berkeley!
[515] I am concerned about what I percieve to be a continueing trend
toward "civilianization" of the Corps (although I am sure that old grads
of the 60's and 70's could have had similar concerns about my class(82).
I think this is a result of an overall softening of focus in the Army-at-Large.
I strongly support the changes since I graduated that have moved USMA closer
to "real Army" standards in areas like the Fourth Class System, but what
if the Army's standards drop? Do we lower standards as West Point, too?
[516] Giving graduating cadets a Reserve Commission
[517] The big issue is that most people, including too many grads,
believe that the DoD is responsible for funding all Academy operating expenses.
[518] I have always felt that West Point's mission and direction
should be more in keeping with the historical aim -- to develop and train
COMBAT officers for our Army. While time moves on and, with it, political
expediencies, the continuing trend toward producing military "managers"
instead of combat leaders troubles me.
[519] Not active in AOG. While I have no specific concerns at this
time, I am not neccesarily happy with the direction of USMA. Would need
resource detailing current specific initiative and possibly current status.
[520] The Honor System The Fourth Class System Fund raising vice
OMA funding
[521] Participate in effort to restore policy ofRegular Commissions
for graduates and ROTC DMGs.
[522] Not enough info.
[523] keep aog informed of mission statement changes.
[524] Women at Academy
[525] Facilites renovation
[526] I recognize we no longer have an identifiable "enemy", but
it appears we are drifting abit too far to the liberal arts side and forgeting
that our primary reason for existance is the defense of the nation by an
armed force.
[527] 4th Class System - at least one semester I know it's old fashioned
and useless in today's Army, but what or where is the distinction between
a West Point Cadet and ROTC graduate who joined a fraternity
[528] Reinstatement of Regular commissions should be a priority The
increased number of civilian instructors should be studied often--the rotation
of highly motivated junior officers through instructional positions has
been beneficial to the educational process.
[529] Graduates should be commissioned in the regular army.
[530] Have not seen the "new" direction, but would sure like to see
it.
[531] USMA Mission. I have not looked into the current status, but
I'm concerned about the mission of West Point. I believe the Academy's
mission should be prinicpally to train and educate leaders. That mission
should not be so narrow as to include only leaders for a lifetime of military
service. I'm certain that USMA graduates who have left military service
have subsequently contributed a great deal to our country through leadership
in many other fields.
[532] Failing to direct commission graduates as regular officers
in the armed forces and requiring at least 3-5 years service concerns me.
The service academies should always be the source of combat leaders for
the US.
[533] Lowering of standards to admit females. Increase in non-military
professors. Compromise of the honor system.
[534] The recent article in the Sep / Oct Assembly describing the
new Beast experience made me concerned about other changes within the Corps.
[535] See comments in #15, 17, 18, 19, and 20 above.
[536] 1. The cloud of political correctness that has engulfed DOD
and USMA. Need I say more? 2. Transformation of CDT life (no absence card,
proliferation of priviledges, no acknowledgement statement, no public posting
of quill (remember USMA form 2-2?), erosion of the 4th class (or any class)
system) into somthing resembling a "boys school," etc. etc. It is really
funny to see the Dean's AOG column still labled "academic limits." CDT's
today do not even recognize the term - there is no conception whatsoever
for physical limits and accountablility. Ask a female yearling what happens
after xmas - she'll tell you that the cows start overtly flirting with
female Plebes - cows get cars and can recognize plebes after Spring break
- what an incentive structure!
[537] I am always worried that the current (but hopefully soon-to-be-reversed-by-the-Republicans-with-the-help-of-the-new-Republican-President)
liberal, moral-free trends will infect the good discipline at the Academy.
Changing (loosening) discipline to reflect the current societal standards
is NOT ALWAYS a good thing!
[538] Not sure if this fits in here but I had a thought on leadersip
courses. PL300 for the 1988 YG covered a lot about situational leadership
and other models of leading people. I wish they could have also had cadets
learn about their own personal leadership style and personalities and how
effective they are and how they are perceived. Cadets/officers should know
what their personal style its strengths and weaknesses and be able to commnumicate
it.
[539] It's not building leaders of character who serve the common
defense.
[540] I continue to be concerned about the commitment and quality
of our graduates, while I think on paper we are heading in the right direction,
I am concerned about the reality. After 3.5 years on the faculty [Dec 93-June
97] I wonder if we are placing too much emphasis on retention and graduating
cadets at any cost. I think it is nearly impossible to weed out cadets
who do not commit major offenses, yet we know will not excel in the Army.
[541] Arbitrariness of Aog Memorial article policies is inhibiting
[542] -Overemphasis on football, and resources required to support
a quality football program (ie stadium, press box, weight room for FB team
only, and most importantly, football players vice future Army career officers
with athletic ability) -Too many cadet activities
[543] commissioning of graduates
[544] 1) Certain aspects of the academic process should be more "civilian-like."
Specifically, the cadet needs to be responsible for their own academic
schedule and not their academic sponsor. By the way, I taught at the Academy
for 6 years. 2) Elimination of certain Corps Squad sports (ie, Rifle).
[545] Graduates not receiving Regular Commissions
[546] What is the "Return on Investment" for female graduates as
compared to any or all other categories of graduates ?
[547] It has been some time now since I read what my classmate, GEN
Don Kutyna, recommended concerning funding, but my recollection remains
that I strongly supported his position. In the future, I urge USMA to consider
very carefully what he has offered.
[548] Combat arms candidates should be given some sort of additional
opportunities during summer training and during the academic year. Non-combat
arms candidates should have corresponding opportunities.
[549] I see it mostly with the Naval Academy but fear it might start
with USMA. That problem is the current perception among government officials
that integrity changes with each generation. Hence, standards such as the
honor code should be "updated" to "stay in touch with the times" are promoted
by those in government. This cannot be allowed to happen.
[550] Lower standards for female cadets. Female cadets. Easy plebe
year & early recognition.
[551] I am concerned with recurring attemps to "civilianize" the
faculty.
[552] More high technology in curriculum; more civility among cadets.
[553] I help companies do this kind of thing all the time, and feel
West Point is making the same mistakes made by many - turning it over to
a committee. Then it gets too lengthy and too convoluted to be useful.
Part of the immense power of "Duty, Honor, Country" comes from its simplicity.
[554] I'm concerned about a growing perception among the U.S. population
that the cost to taxpayers of all the academies no longer justifies the
benefits received by society from them.
[555] All of my concerns are Politically Incorrect and therfore not
addressable by the academy, nor the AOG.
[556] With the present changes in the Military, down sizing ect,.
what does the future hold for West Point?
[557] West Point needs to instruct cadets/future officers in the
role of the National Guard in our nation's defense infrastructure. Since
the absorbtion of the National Guard into DoD's Total Force doctrine, I
feel it is important that every graduate thoroughoy understands how the
National Guard does business and what it can get away with with impunity.
On the battlefield, it will be too late to realize that the National Guard
leaders have worked and trained under a different set of rules than that
what is expected of regular active duty leaders.
[558] West Point is too large. The expansion from 2500 cadets was
ill-advised. The size should have been reduced to about 1250 instead. many
of West Points problems in the past thirty years are directly attributable
to the expansion. Unfortunately, the "empire-builders" imagined that the
Cold War was permanent, so now we have a bloated Military Academy serving
an Army of fewer than half a million men. It is never too late to reverse
ill-advised decisions.
[559] I am concerned about potential efforts to fund raise from private
companies and also to raise funds as a substitute for projects which should
be Congressionally funded. Do some lobbying and break those funds loose
! The taxpayers own West Point and you would find them more than ready
to see funds spent (properly or appropriately) for support.)
[560] New USMA mission statement says that each USMA graduate is
"committed to . . . a career in the United States Army." The mission statement
does not address graduates who enter the Navy, Marine Corps or Air Force.
It also ignores our foreign cadets. It also alienates the hundreds of graduates
each year who do not make the Army a career, willingly or unwillingly.
[561] Please...regain the battle-focus, the list is too long and
sad to dwell upon
[562] Unfortunately, I don't believe a know much about the direction
West Point is taking.
[563] -Loss of RA commission is worth going to the mat for. Perception
of having a level ballfield for ROTC grads and USMA grads is stupid and
needs to be overturned with rational thoughts and arguments. -Don't let
the PC stuff in DC become a change to the culture at USMA. Resist change
for social reasons. -Continue to develop the warrior spirit and never let
any cadets think they are going to a world class university, but to a world
class military academy. -Make sure there is a high stress training and
learning environment that has worked for almost 2 centuries. -If the system
gets too easy we may as well close it down. If West Point is just another
ROTC school, then close it down.
[564] 1. Emphasis on fund raising rather than operating within the
provisions of Congress. 2. Emphasis on sex and racial integration.
[565] The physical plant is very worn down and is only a poor shadow
of the time I was there for 1974-79. Fix the darn place! Graduates have
very little knowledge of the Reserves or National Guard.
[566] I support the move to increase the military aspect of West
Point during the academic year, and I support the concept of treating all
people with dignity (including plebes) - however, I do not support what
appears to some to be the elimination of a Fourth Class System. The plebe
year should be difficult (in ways other than academic) to ensure that each
plebe has the requisite motivation required to be a commissioned officer
and a West Point graduate. I also do not support the substitution of work
details for area tours. Cadets, as future officers, are not normal troops
and should not peform fatigue details (raking leaves, etc.). Area tours,
in Dress Gray, with an inspection in ranks prior to walking the day's tours,
are much more appropriate for cadets. The area is also an old tradition
that binds the members of the Long Gray Line together. The value of that
bonding cannot be underestimated.
[567] I am not sure of the direction that West Point is heading.
[568] USMA seems to be floating in the political "winds" more than
ever, and the de-emphasis of military issues (including "civilianizing"
the faculty) makes selling the academies to taxpayers a bit tough.... there
are plenty of "captains of industry" coming out of Harvard Business, etc.
We could use a military academy more than ever in this political era.
[569] The services tend to follow society in trends/focus. Discipline
is starting to fall off. Fewer priveleges should be granted. Equal physical
standards for all should be increased and enforced. Stop looking at the
investment in each cadet, or the quota of a cadet's race or gender; toe
the line or exceed it, or get the boot. Honor needs to remain binary (toe
the line, or get the boot). Physical hardship should be increased to make
cadets drive to their limits. Martial arts should be mandatory to give
cadets superior skills in hand-to-hand combat and spiritual and physical
fitness, which is, fundamentally, a young officer's base of authority in
the field.
[570] Reliance on private financial donations to fill financial gaps
when this is a public institution (private donations without pressure is
OK)
[571] Leadership. Practice consistent with theory and principles
as established in military doctrine. Consistency of behaviors of tactical
officers and faculty as role models in this regard. Respect for dignity,
understanding of intrinsic motivation.
[572] Generally happy with where the Superintendent is headed. The
biggest problem is external forces to the Academy - including Army, DoD,
and political.
[573] Without sounding too Old Corps, which I am not, I subscribe
to the dated philosophy of "good steel come from a hot fire." Not specific
but my intent is clear. My perception is that our leaders are inclined
to lean away from the "M" in USMA when in doubt.
[574] Must develop leaders of character who do the right things for
the right reasons...promotion and career are too much a driving force in
the officer chain of command.
[575] Congress should not be allowed in any decisions.
[576] I suspect the leadership is doing its level best to protect
the time-honored concept of a clear cut honor code while the very concept
of moral absolutes withstands continuous assault by President Clinton,
the prince of truth decay.
[577] YES, a big one. A lot of my classmates are already out of the
Army or are ready to get out soon. The main purpose of West Point is to
produce quality officers to serve in the Army. Too many people are using
West Point to get a degree and then leave the Army even before their their
committment is up. Thus, West Point is attracting the wrong types of people:
people that really do not want to be in the Army and it shows. We have
had quite a few sub-par officers from West Point in my unit and its embarrassing.
[578] As the Army reduces its officer requirements would like to
see a return to emphasis on combat arms. Have never supported allowing
graduates to enter tech services. This is what set us apart from ROTC programs
and justified in some large measurethe institution. I also find the notion
of "nuturing cadets" inconsistent with the mission of the Acadmey to produce
soldiers -- soldiering is a tough business, not a nuturing business.
[579] Where is WP heading?
[580] Excessive curriculum expansion diverts from focus on combat
arms and extended commitment of graduates to their obigation beyond the
contract requirement. Focus on individual needs of cadets Vs. needs of
the Academy and the Army. Curve bending as applied to both academics and
military training destroys tradition of excellence. Diversion from "elitism"
detracts from repudation of producing only the best officers. Need to return
to a focus on quality Vs. cadet retention. Focus on officer/graduate retention
instead.
[581] I am concerned about the tendency of West Point to succumb
to pressures to be more politically correct. Especially, I think one of
the most important parts of the West Point experience id the 4th class
system, which teaches young men and women to put the team's goals ahead
of their own welfare. I think the trend towards a more "collegiate" type
atmosphere will seriously hurt USMA's ability to develop leaders of character.
West Point is supposed to be difficult -- that is one of the main factors
that inspired me to go there. I object to efforts designed to make USMA
more like a traditional college experience.
[582] Area Tours Discipline Corps Pride
[583] I believe that USMA has probably done a pretty good job of
sorting throught the social minefield that it is, along with the rest of
the military, forced to navigate in today's world. While I don't see evidence
that says it's happening, I'm concerned that West Point may be caught up
in the current environment of "political correctness" that is choking free
thought in our society. Such a direction applied to West Point would quiet
one of the sources of "conscience" in our society.
[584] The decision to force at least 80% of each class into the combat
arms deprives other branches of diversity and limits cadet satisfaction.
Since branch satisfaction is a high predictor of retention, this move could
also result in lower retention rates after mandatory service obligations
are reached.
[585] The demilitarazation of the academy in favor of academic pursuits.
Allowing grads to go into CSS branchs like finance and med service. Those
branchs do not require USMA.
[586] changes to new cadet training lack of RA commissions lack of
committment to the Army's warfighting ability too broad a range of majors
lack of funding
[587] 1. I am concerned that the Academy is too reluctant to dismiss
individuals that do not meet established standards. Perhaps because of
political preasures, individuals who have not met prescribed physical,
military, and academic standards are given repeated opportunities. 2. I
am concerned that the Academy has lowered some standards, that should not
have been lowered, in an effort to minimize attrition rates. The Academy
should establish and maintain reasonable standards to ensure that the American
taxpayer gets the quality of Army officer they are paying for. The goal
of the Academy should then be to ensure that all graduates meet these standards
not that all entering cadets graduate. 3. I am concerned that the Academy
is becoming just another great college instead of a military academy. Military
preparation could be much better. I believe some ROTC programs better prepare
their graduates for military service. I think the quality of military intersession
instruction is generally poor. The instructors from the academic departments
view this instruction as an additional duty. In addition, I think the Academy
could use some of the time devoted to drill for more practical military
instruction. Obviously, the need to manuever large formations in battle
is no longer there. The biggest reason for drill is to put on quality parades
for the public. Since many athletes never participate in drill, drill is
not an integral part of the cadet experience. I believe that the Corps
could put on quality parades with half the drill. The other days could
be used for practical military instruction.
[588] Fund Raising- Active duty members can't afford to give to USMA
at the "recommended amount" Why are you bleeding the grads to fund things
the American taxes should fund. How about an active PR campaign focused
at telling the USMA story...or focused at the business community to fund
construction projects. The constant barrage of asking the graduates for
more and more money is the main concern of me and my classmates. We DO
NOT LIKE IT AT ALL!!! I think what the commandant is doing to change some
policies to put the "M" back in USMA are positive.
[589] I think that it is unfortunate that a Supe has the power to
change the nature of the academy so freely. Something is wrong with the
process. AOG should have more input.
[590] There are or have been many changes at USMA that have astounded
me. Many of these have been addressed elsewhere by others whose eloquence
is far beyond my humble skill. I cannot add to their words, but I can and
do object to the patronizing responses their questions generated from the
successive Supe's or their representatives.
[591] The Army currently has a greater need for technology minded
officers with all the latest in technology advances in vehicles and weapon
systems. Unfortunately, those officers who perform well in this environment
are the very officers leaving active service. As a former FA officer, I
feel like the remaining artillery officer corps is not fully prepared to
handle the existing new artillery vehicle technology.
[592] I am very concerned about the apparent de-emphasis on the profession
of arms and combat arms branch selection by male cadets
[593] I feel that Cadets should continue to receive increased weekend
passes and that first classmen should be allowed to leave post when they
wish. It does the army no good to receive young Lieutenants that are socially
stunted because they have been locked away for 4 years.
[594] Change in Reserve versus Regular commissions.
[595] I prefer to reserve specific comments until I've had some tome
to assess the current situation. In general, I am concerned that USMA and
the Army have been drifting away from the hard discipline and training
necessary for producing warriors. Too often the priority is on doing that
which is deemed "politically correct" rather than that which we should
do to produce trained soldiers.
[596] The focus of USMA has turned to academic rather than military
development. The current graduates do not have the discipline (shown by
the widespread lack of punctuality and standards), which should be addressed
by tightening the standards at USMA.
[597] It appears to be wandering in the purpose of the Academy since
its inception.
[598]
[599] - Attempts to issue Reserve instead of Regular Army Commissions
to grads. - Civilianization.
[600] I can't say for sure since I am not up to date about current
USMA policy and issues.
[601] Civilianization of the faculty Perceived erosion of political
support The fact that the 1000th black graduated in the same class as the
1000th female - don't you see something amiss with that? The racial issue
is NEVER discussed. PS. I am white.
[602] USMA has apparently rolled over in the current rush to make
our military gender neutral, politically correct ineffective, undersized
and overburdened. I hear no voice of resistance. And I am terribly disappointed.
[603] Concerned about the high number of classmates dropping out
and not fulfillling their commitement !
[604] curiculum "demilitarization" and "political correctness".
[605] I have not keep up with the progress, except for one visit
2 years ago.
[606] VERY concerned about the new standards (PE etc.) to accomodate
female cadets (that's a contradiction in itself!). I will never forget
the activities of July 1, 1946,; and, if anything has been done to diminish
or reduce the pressure put on new cadets on day one of beast barracks,
I think I'll return to give the supe an earfull.
[607] Do not want to lose focus on the requirement for disciplined,
service oriented graduates ready to fully serve their country selflessly
[608] Not informed enough to make an opinion.
[609] This may be an unfair comment, but my impression is that the
military academy is trying very hard to become a civilian university. I
was a tenured professof at a major American university, and am currently
emeritus. I think you might be moving in the wrong direction if you are
in fact losing the systems and discipline that once marked the acdemic
process at the Academy. I said it before, but I will repeat it again. We
should do everything we can to retain and foster the uniqueness of the
Academy.
[610] The degree to which giving to the Academy has developed over
the past few years. Warrior Spirit vs college like any other
[611] The admission of female cadets is a concern to me. It is a
step in the wrong direction.
[612] Although I agree with many of the changes that have gone on
at the Academy, I am afraid that some of the changes may have gone too
far. Specifically, I am afraid that, from what I have heard from recent
graduates and cadets and from what I have read, that the discipline and
intensity that the Academy used to instill in graduates may be lacking.
I feel that the Fourth class system, although it had some shortfalls and
needed to be reevaluated, should have been maintained in a manner other
than what it is now.
[613] I am disturbed by the "touchy-feely" direction that USMA has
taken. While I deplore the sexual harassment problems that have rocked
the Army, and feel strongly that all are entitled to just and fair treatment,
I never had the idea that "respect for others" was one of two "bedrock
value" of the Academy. It smacks of political correctness. Maybe it is
just the term, but many of my contemporaries (I am a contractor for an
Air Staff office with many USAFA graduates) rolled their eyes at that one.
We train men and women for a harsh and unforgiving job. They should respect
others, but that is already inherent in our THREE bedrock values: duty,
honor, country. If cadets don't understand this by the time they graduate,
the Academy has failed.
[614] More cadet run activities. I cannot emphasize this enough.
there is TOO MUCH OFFICER INVOLVEMENT IN DAY TO DAY CADET ACTIVITIES. Tactical
officers who are not graduates do not understand the Cadet's leadership
abilities and concerns and run cadet companies as if it were a company
command. On the average they micromanage and stifile cadet inititive.
[615] USMA needs to down size to reinstill the sense of commaraderie,
honor, and unity of purpose it once had. It is more appropriate with the
down sizing of the Armed forces.
[616] Much of what I read on the net leads me to believe that there
is more emphasis on being politically correct than operationally ready-
more on education than on military skills. It may be more the trend than
the absolute values that bother me.
[617] 1. Changes in cadet perception of honer code (can no longer
leave a watch on room table...euphemisim is "...it was borrowed..."). 2.
Length of active service comittment, particularly with graduates being
asdked to pony up for "quality of life" costs. 3. Loss of Regular Army
commission.
[618] The latest revisions are getting us back to where we should
be.
[619] it's getting to easy, no this isn't an I graduated and the
corps has thing, but from what I've heard things have really changed and
the standards are really slipping, we need to get back to the way things
were even before I got there and bring the fourth class system back, not
this cleds stuff
[620] In attempts over the years to become more competitive with
civilian universities and to become more politically correct USMA has lost
some (too much)of it's uniqueness and focused mission. The recent branch
assignments for the class of '98 shows much too much dimunition of Army
mission and purpose, largely in favor of personal agendas of the graduates.
I think the Supe's direction is better but still a little tentative.
[621] Clearly I hadn't scrolled to this point before comments made
above ... see 15 above et alia. USMA MUST clearly be able to continually
demonstrate that graduates 1) stay for full military careers in DRAMATICALLY
higher percentages that ROTC, 2) that they perform demonstrably better
at COMBAT platoon and COMBAT company levels, and 3) that they acquire an
education not offered at any other US college or university. If WP cannot
do that, tradition alone simply cannot guarantee institutional survival.
[622] As stated above, West Point's job is too produce leaders of
character and I don't see what all the physical development has to do with
develping character
[623] The "civilianization" of the Military Academy is well-known
and as the Administration opts not to accept such a label, I guess it's
useless to comment further. Most meals being optional--sometimes you do
things you don't want to do because they're important. The lack of anything
resembling the 4th Class System that I knew only 10 years ago.
[624] It is not the USMA that I attended. It has become a political
football that has numbed down the status and capabilities of the grads.
I am sad to see a school with peeling paint and a country not concerned
with the education of leaders that will defend all of our futures.
[625] The emphasis SAT, ACT, and GPA is becoming too great, while
the atheletic backgrounds of cadets are becoming quite embarassing. While
I recognize there is some value to achievements in arts, music, speech,
and etc., there is no denying the fact that physical prowess is just as
important as the other areas. Doing well on two minutes of puchups, situps,
and a 2-mile doesn't mean one is an athelete. In short, we need more cadets
with a history of atheletic achievement.
[626] During the 15 year reunion, I became aware of several policy
changes in the military leadership/disciplinary area that disturbed me.
I was particularly concerned with the Academy's effort to make the fourth
class experience more "politically correct". If cadets cannot adequately
deal will stress and adverse conditions in a training environment, they
certainly won't do any better in the real world where its REALLY difficult.
Hard decisions are made by people that have the confidence to stand up
in the face of adversity. From my understanding of the new policies, our
future leaders will not be ready to face the challenges that await them
when they become commissioned officers.
[627] Becoming too politically correct- must maintain its counter-cultural
ethical base- must not become"mainstream"
[628] The whole process appears to be very touchy-feely. The goal
should be to produce combat commanders that are as tough as is practical.
I know we have girls and coed "dormitories" but someone should remember
that there are wars.
[629] Iam concerned that the mission continues to be to train officers
and that the process is not overly civilianized. If USMA looka too much
like a normal university then the questin will again be asked, "Why have
this expensive place. ROTC can do the job."
[630] -Solution to the RA Commission issue that retains the RA Commission
for USMA graduates upon their graduation. -Possible distraction from focus
on combat leadership within Duty,Honor,Country concept. -Action which appears
to reflect fascination with making USMA over into an "Ivy League" college.
[631]
[632] Since I can't say I am familiar with question 27, above, I
can't very well take issue with, or express satisfaction with said policies.
[633] from rumors (classmate gossip) it looks as if the demand for
individual leadership is being degraded to satisfy diversity
[634] N/A
[635] I am not concerned with the leadership or direction of the
Academy. I am concerned about the external influences from Washington that
can materially influence a decreasing role and importance of all the academies.
The forces can, and probably will, alter the desired direction of our Academy.
[636] West Point has become too Politically Correct. The warrior
ethic has been attacked. Get back to basics and educate and train leaders
who will win our nation's future wars. Use merit and competence as a measure
of success. Raise the standards, don't lower them. What happened to the
OML? Diversity should not be a goal. Diversity is not a strength. It is
an undermining weakness erodes the bonds of unit cohesiveness.
[637] Dan Christman doing great. Support him.
[638]
[639] Discipline of the Corps Excess priviliges too early Lack of
DA and Congressional support Have we gone too far with academic majors
[640] It has become a college where the students wear uniforms rather
than a Military Academy. Not enough emphasis on military training or retention
in the service after graduation.
[641] It seems to be getting softer from the rumors I've heard (reductions
in the forth class system etc.)
[642] 1. Sorry, but I don't believe we need female cadets. 2. It
makes me sad to see "civilians" trying to interfere with the honor system.
[643] setting high standard that is ahead of the army and provides
the basis and foundation for the entire officer corps.
[644] i feel there is some concern with the changes made since 1949
[645] I am in the process of completing a career of Federal Service
of over 30 years. While I elected to resign after my four year commitment,
I feel that I have faithfully served the Nation in a way that I was able
to make my best contribution. Thus, it should be no surprise that I feel
that commitment to a career in the Army (exclusive of other service) is
too narrow a focus.
[646] Is there any one place where such items are consisely stated?
[647] I generally feel that West Point places too much emphasis on
science and engineering - not enough on the "soft" sciences.
[648] 1. That cadets have to compete for active duty slots with ROTC
contemperaries.
[649] We need to ensure USMA graduate serve their entire tour of
five or six years. Understand this is an army issue not a USMA issue, but
thought it was ludicrous to allow voluntary separation after 2-3 years.
[650] Focus on the work--producing high quality, educated, 2nd Lt's
who will continue the traditions of the Army.
[651] See 29 & 30 below
[652] Commission only regular officers unless a medical situation
would dictate otherwise.
[653] I disagree with the preferencial recruiting/appointment status
of varsity atheletes.
[654] I am not familiar enough with the current direction of USMA
to comment.
[655] I am very worried about the potential erosion of discipline
and the possible collapse of morale illustrated by the (admittedly secondhand)
reports of the disappearence of the 4th Class System and of "blood-pinning".
I believe that much of the best I learned at USMA was about myself, and
was in plebe year. The declining attrition rate is not necessarily the
best of news...I realize this is a controversial topic, and have great
respect for the leadership at USMA, who struggles under difficult political
strictures...
[656] Graduates not getting regular commissions Different standards
for males and females Pay scales have not kept up with inflation
[657] Need for emphasis on preparation for a lifetime of military
or public service; stronger emphasis on duty, honor, country
[658] Let's not lose the warrior spirit which is essential to success
on the battlefield. Today the academic program is superb. Cadets have numerous
classes to choose, and the enrichment programs are superb. Let's not lose
focus however. We are producing battlefield leaders. Don't allow faddish
courses and activities to infiltrate the curriculum or program of instruction
[659] A solid, well publicized method of equal treatment of women
and minorities.
[660] Plebe "year" needs to be more difficult
[661] Academy doing excellent in academics but do not like what I
hear from new graduates about the feeling of comradery. With the mix of
male and female cadets, there is also an atmosphere of "we and they" regarding
the vigors of training. This is based upon talking with both male and female
cadets.
[662] I sent comments to the Supe regarding the mission statement.
I am glad to see he considered our remarks (and put "iinspire" back in
the wording)! I wonder if we define ourselves too narrowly, though, by
saying "US ARMY' vice "US ARMED FORCES." Who knows what it'll be called
in 50 years! Also, some people cross-commission, so they aren't going into
the "ARMY."
[663] 1. admission of females 2. no RA commissions 3. changes in
academic program 4. Hiding class standing by listing alphabetically
[664] Decline/Loss of the 4th class system The development of a new
mission statement?? No more IOCT?? Graduate Schooling Reserve Comissions
[665] The current product is flawed.
[666] - Political correctness is draining the challenge away from
the academy
[667] I believe that the recent bruhaha concerning leadership was
incredible and should not have happened.
[668] Increased emphasis on academics and decrease in military education/studies
[669] Deterioration of existing facilities at USMA
[670] - see above statement -
[671] the emphasis thru the West Point Fund appears to be athletics-oriented,
rather than the "whole man" concept we were familiar with as cadets. It
appears the emphasis is specialization, and a relaxing of requirements
to be well-rounded and to be generally proficient Relaxation of honor code
is of great concern
[672] I just can't say I am satisfied with the present direction.
I recognize the need to make the "experience" relative to the present generation,
but I feel that we have given away too much. I recognize that the way we
were treated was not the way you would be expected to treat soldiers, and
we learned incorrect lessons. It's better the way more people are involved
in leadership, ant that's a plus. But some of the "hardships" need to be
back in the "experience" so that cadets learn to cope with life the way
it is going to be in the real world..e.g., extended overseas deployments
to unpleasant places to perform missions you may not personnaly support.
[673] My major concern is a DoD matter that will eventually affect
USMA - the DoD is in dire need of reorganization. First, there are four
branches of service, each having duplicate funtions. Why four branches?
Add the JCS, more duplication. When the support functions are examined,
more duplication. What happens when funding is cut to a level that requires
further reduction of the service academy's budgets? Are the academies too
large, too many graduating per year? What size graduating class can be
easily absorbed into the active military?
[674] I have grave concern about the wisdom of inviting an avowed
communist from addressing 2nd class cadets on the meaning of freedom. It
would seem that there are so many better qualified persons to speak to
this issue than one whose life has been devoted to the undermining of the
very essence of freedom we enjoy!
[675] Commissioning cadet graduates as Resrve Officers.
[676] Similar to my concerns for the Army. Seems as though the emphasis
has turned away from warfighting and is more socially/politically oriented.
[677] honor code looks to be in trouble (which all classes say after
they leave; it should stand as an uncompromised rock w/o political meddling)
size of Corps -- cost effective? changing from RA commissions to Reserve
commissions & letting cadets resign prior to the end of their commitment
-- stupid.
[678] I thought the plebe year hazing that I received was silly.
I went to WP for an education and to become an Army officer, not to run
around screaming and slamming up against some upper classman's locker.
At the same time, just glancing at a letter in the Jan-Feb 98 "Assembly,"
I'm not sure spending Beast Barracks time discussing hair styling options
is the way to go.
[679] I believe that graduates should be directly commissioned in
the regular army after a qualifying period of three years.
[680] Fund raising; sky boxes; bicentennial monument (eagle in Lusk
reservoir is an awful idea), RA commissions; decreased emphasis on combat
leadership
[681] Need more information
[682] I am concerned that USMA is moving further away from what should
be, and was, its primary mission to train future officers to be combat
leaders.
[683] 1. Seems to have lost some of its ability to provide leaders
who serve the common defense.
[684] Why does the Academy need another new mission statement? Why
not grab one of the old ones? It will be changed in a few years anyhow.
[685] Relaxation of standards. Apparent leadership training deficiences.
Questionable training of "real world" in Army.
[686] Civilianization of faculty is not good. Military faculty looked
very shabby in their civilian clothes (jeans, etc) at the last home football
game. They looked like a bunch of Blue Collar workers, not the fine officers
they are. At a time when USMA is coming under fire, the faculty should
be identifiable to the public and should look professional. The Superintendent's
change in policy allowing the staff & faculty to attend football games
in civilian clothes is wrong and should be reversed.
[687] I have many concerns. One is that USMA is straying from its
core mission by promoting too many extracurricular activities and by failing
to stress that the purpose of USMA is to pursue a lifetime career in the
Army. Also, I do not favor academic majors. Modern needs a hard core of
officers with broad technologically oriented education. Also, let's keep
USMA an undergraduate institution and stop trying to turn it into a research
or graduate studies center.
[688] academy graduates should be commissioned as regular army officers
not reserve officers as some enlightened idiots have mandated. This situation
should be changed before tackling a "new direction".
[689] Don't get too soft in Beast
[690] 1) Commissioning of WP Graduates for active duty and not competing
for active duty slots
[691] -- Type of commission received upon graduation -- 4th Class
System -- New manner in which cadets receive their academic year military
training
[692] Focus on academic excellence a priority over military training
and preparation for the Army.
[693] As the oldest engineering college in the Nation, it has departed
from its original mission in favor of creating a "generalized" education.
At the same time, it has departed dramatically from the practice of accountability.
Standards are standards, and mandatory, not desirable goals.
[694] I am concerned that service commitment has been lessened I
am also concerned at measures that may "civilianize" the academy.
[695] When West Point is attacked in the press or media, the AoG
should take a more aggressive stance to get our side, or the truth, out
to the major media. We also should support our Navy and Air Force counterparts
on like issues, for example, the Kelly Flinn affair (pun INtended) and
courtmartial. 'Honor Scandals' is another issue.
[696] As a cadet, instructors continually downplayed that it wasn't
important where an officer graduated from, but what he/she accoplished.
If that is the case, then why bother having an academy? The active Army
downplays it within the officer corps as well, but my 300+ enlisted soldiers
seem to think its important. I do too...
[697] - The lack of producing Army officers for long term as the
focus of the USMA mission statement. The drawdown is over and its time
to return to the academy's reason for existance. - The increasing assignment
of new academy graduates away from the combat arms
[698] USMA graduates should receive Regular Army commissions upon
graduation.
[699] I think the last few administrations of West Point have tried
to be too "politically correct" in the changes that have been made to the
fourth class system. I do not advocate hazing or physical abuse of plebes,
but I think the system is in danger of going too far the other direction.
I have heard and read the arguments of the new system and how it is every
bit as tough as it has ever been. However, I am not convinced. My limited
conversation with current plebes leads me to believe that they are not
being challenged to their fullest. Much, if not all, of my modest personal
success can be directly and nearly totally attributed to the adverserial
conditions I faced and overcane during my plee year. It was a tremendous
character building experience. I hope it continues to be that way for future
plebes.
[700] I fully support the process presently used by the "Supe" -
participation definitely increases ownership. I agree with broadening WP's
mission to provide the country with strong leadership in sectors other
than the military, especially in this time of a shrinking active duty.
As a Reserve officer, I do not think that WP's contribution to the Reserve
ranks should be minimized. Officers leaving AD should be educated and encouraged
to continue service to the nation in the inactive ranks.
[701] The policy of graduating West Pointers with Reserve Commissions
just like the ROTC may seem to be an egalitarian step to some, but to me
it is an unbelieveable step in the direction of ending the Military Academy
as it exists today. USMA graduates are not the same as ROTC graduates,
never have been, and should not be treated the same.
[702] Elimination of Area Tours Elimination/reduction of mandatory
meals
[703] During my class reunion this fall, General Christman, along
with the Dean and Com gave us an excellent talk about the direction in
which they are taking West Point. I believe we have excellent leadership
in those positions and support them.I support the Supe's proposed change
in the mission of the Corps. However, I would like to see more emphasis
on new cadets entering the Academy with an Army career as their number
1 goal and that goal continuing to be stressed throughout the four years
that they are there. I agree with the change in leadership emphasis being
the spirit of Scolfield's definition, rather than the complete degradation
of the person that we experienced; however, there should never be any question
in a new cadet's mind that Plebe year is one of the most demanding years
of his/her life to that point, that the honor code is inviolable, that
duty, honor, country is a code they are to live by for the rest of their
lives and that service to our country through service in the Army is a
most notable and rewarding career. I have classmates who tell me that they
would not assign recent(late 60s, early 70s) grads in their commands to
command small units because they were lacking in the integrity it takes
to command a unit. This occurred during the Vietnam period, and apparently
many of the instructors at West Point did not set a good example for them.
There should not be any element of academic and military leadership at
the Academy that does not support the goals of the Academy and the Army
100 percent. The role model of the instructor was one of the major influences
on me personally and I think it still exists. Any effort to dilute that
role model (and I suspect the increase in civilian instructors is a big
minus in that regard) is a disservice to the Cadets. I am pleased with
the move to electives with a strong core curriculum. It was being planned
when I taught Math at West Point. I believe in a strong core group of studies,
but the freedom to move into other areas allows the Cadet to pursue areas
in which he has most interest, and yet have an education important to a
young officer. Last summer, I wrote a ballad about the Long Gray Line over
the past 200 years and challenged the future members of the Long Gray Line
as follows: "May all of our future grads be ever proud to serve When answering
the country's call, may you never lose your nerve May the future of the
Long Gray Line continue in our stride May Duty, Honor, Country always be
your guide." I would have difficulty supporting any policies that do not
support that challenge to the future.
[704] 1) I do Not believe that 'work details' are proper way of punishing
cadets. Demeans the officer corps and cadets perception of same. Go back
to room con/walking. 2) Why bother changing mission statement?
[705] Lack of focus in developing Army Officers rather than academics
and future civilians. My perception of recent graduates and their lack
of pride, dedication, and responsibility to the Army first - self second.
[706] I am concerned about the direction in which the Army in general
is heading, and West Point is falling right in line with the Army. For
example, some soldiers aren't joining the Army today to be soldiers. They
are joining to "do their time" and get money for college. I have to wonder
what the percentage of incoming cadets that WANT to serve as an officer
in the Army.
[707] I have recently read the beast/new cadet procedures from earlier
days have been replaced by R-Day/a new approach which sounds very unlike
what I experienced. I do not think my experience was the end all/be all;
however, what little I have read in Assembly causes me to question the
adequacy/effectiveness of this new approach. This rather abrupt departure
from past practices is bothersome to say the least.
[708] Who would ever be happy with "current direction?" I need to
know more.
[709] It sure seems like it is becoming civilianized. I don't know
enough about the current state of the 4th class system. I am interested
in hearing the current number of years currently part of a grads committment.
[710] PERCEPTION ONLY: I'd like to ensure that USMA remains focused
on its military mission and avoids trying to become an Ivy League clone
with pretty uniforms. I have no factual basis for this concern, but have
heard rumblings from classmates and other friends who are on the faculty
there. It may be the usual "disgruntled old graduate" carping, but it is
still a concern of mine.
[711] why are they changing the mission statement again. I thought
the current one was fine. The Army leadership should provide the reqt to
change the mission statement for West Point
[712] I want to see USMA continue to provide a well rounded, forward-looking,
undergraduate education. The breadth of my West Point education has served
me well. I do not support allowing cadets to pursue esoteric "majors" unless
they have the solid grounding that is needed for their Army career.
[713] The dramatic way that plebe year has changed in the last several
yrs (I'm a '91 grad). It is NOT the same place it used to be, and many
grads are very mad and apathetic (look at recent grads financial contributions!)
Basic training soldiers now face a more physically and mentally rigorous
program than do Academy grads (no yelling at plebes??!! haven't they seen
basic training??!!). This is a sad commentary indeed.
[714] Just like every "old grad", I'm fearful that the disciplinary
standards and sense of "toughness" are degrading.
[715] Invite graduates (now civilians), who have at least a Masters
degree, to come back as an instructor.
[716] Just glad to see us turning more toward emphasizing leadership
in the military as a career and de-emphasizing civilian service. IF we
lose our focus on producing military leaders, we have to compete with other
institutions that provide civilian leaders. Doesn't make sense. I never
agreed with that change to the mission statement. There are enough distractors
out there to entice grads away from the uniform. We need the Academy to
propel grads toward a 20 year career. If they don't start out with this
notion, it is difficult to embed the notion later on. EACH graduate should
at least be CONSIDERING a 20 year career...that should be an implied expectation...else
why go to West Point? I know this is unpopular and the minority opinion.
[717] Differing standards for women, especially as they directly
influence men's standards
[718] The large number of perminant party military officers here.
There are too many. They are resistors to change.
[719] 1. The reserve commission at graduation (vs. regular army)
2. Creating warriors.
[720] - Disagree with quality of life initiatives designed to ease
transition of 1st class to 2nd Lt. I believe that they diminish the unique
nature of the West Point experience and add little social value.
[721] I am concerned with the amount of pressure that you are bringing
to bear on graduates to fund things that should either be funded by tax
payers, or not be funded. Period. If our government is not prepared to
fund things that you think they should, then convince them to fund them,
or drop that activity/function. I'm tired of my own class mates bugging
me for class gifts. I have no sympathies with their goals. Just MHO!
[722] Need more info.
[723] 1. RA commissions upon graduation. 2. Return practice of placing
cadets in companies according to height. 3. For public ceremonies such
as parade and reviews, have cadets pass in review in battalion mass rather
than what seems an endless passing of individual platoons.
[724] I have heard that congress has mandated a decrease in the number
of active duty instructors at USMA. This shortfall is to be made up by
civilian professors. If true, this concerns me a great deal. Especially
if these professors are not funded adequately to ensure a quality faculty.
[725] I believe USMA has shifted from a military focus and a broad
based academic program designed to develop a strong analytical and liberal
arts foundation for life and service to an Academic focus with majors and
less of a broad foundation. This may have led to better ivy league like
candidates attending the academy but I believe has also led to a junior
officer corp that is not in touch with their soldiers and one that gets
out of the military as soon as possible. What are the stats on the percentage
of grads leaving the military for the classes since 1980?
[726] It seems that the entire focus of the AOG and USMA is financial.
It is reality, but sad.
[727] Preparation for service in our current Army. Discontinuation
of area tours
[728] Before non-graduates do it, objectively evaluate relevance
of current USMA structure in these days of a smaller force, limited budget
and excellent alternatives (ROTC).
[729] My non- West Point colleagues still on active duty tell me
USMA graduates lean more towards technology, computers and simulations
versus combat arms pursuits, and that the major ROTC schools, i.e. North
Georgia, etc., produce "harder" junior officers. I realize this reflects
society in general, but I work at Ga Tech and alot of our students use
computers and use them well, but they don't live for computers and they
want to be good, solid engineers. Perhaps looking at how USMA does the
same thing, i.e. technology literate officers focused on troop level assignments.
[730] - I believe that West Point does an excellent job of striving
to maintain its relevancy as an institution - I'm concerned about the declining
size of the military and the decreasing number of people with military
experience who truly undestand what West Point is all about and how it
serves its country. - I saw a football game this year at which the cadets
wore BDU's to the game. I don't think that doing so sets the appropriate
image for the public. I believe tat doing so tends to cause people to blur
the line between what West Point is all about and any other army installation.
As such, I think that its one of those things that slowly erodes West Point's
image as a hallowed American institution.
[731] Support Supt's apparent desire to re-emphasize commitment to
commissioned service as reflected in his latest version of the mission
statement.
[732] maintain academic excellence of program and graduates; not
drifting off into mindless 'huah' enthusiasms. Retraining for Graduates
at critical career points (CGSC, War College, Command selection, GO selection,
etc)
[733] I am concerned that changes at USMA are made to better reflect
society. I prefer that USMA maintain standards that society should aspire
to.
[734] Hard to answer since I'm not even aware that the Sup is seeking
a new mission statement.
[735] * Still don't like plebes being "recognized" at Spring Break
[736] Aside from the fact that this year's football team "sucked",
and I have strong doubts about the coach's ability to prevent a replay
next year, I am happy with the direction that WP is headed.
[737] As stated above, and again here, USMA has gone too soft. I
taught in D/Soc Sci 81-84 and it was borderline to below standard then.
The goal to graduate as many as possible from each incoming class instead
of culling the class and stressing it - is wrong. Do commanders in the
field look forward to getting West Pointers? How do West Pointers compare
to ROTC scholarship Lts? Help influence the administration to not make
the experience too easy, too politically correct and not focused enough
to produce graduates who will serve longer and better in the Army. Encourage
the male cadets to be warrior-leaders.
[738] Becoming too soft.
[739] Disappointed in the current direction to turn school into an
Ivy League college. It is the Military Academy. It is to develop leaders
in peace to lead in War. The current 'pc' attitude and concern about feelings
is undermining the bonds that exist from the first graduating class to
the most recent. In the early '70s a new cadet quit during beast because
he had problems yelling that the purpose of the bayonet is to kill. So
the staff over reacted to change the chant to the purpose is to close with
and destroy the enemy. The staff should have just said, well there goes
another person who would not have made a good combat leader. The senior
staff now in the old TD are just like that staff 25 years ago, and have
lost focus on the true purpose of the MILITARY ACADEMY.
[740] West Point has become too politically correct. USMA must be
able to differentiate itself from ROTC schools. Failure to do so will result
in the eventual dissolution of the school. What is it with plebes getting
weekends away from school, no more area tours, majors in non-engineering
specialties, etc? Give me a break!
[741] 1. Better break out of what is appropriation funded and what
is "donation" funded. 2. Use of BDU for class room attendance gives impression
more of "training center" than "academic" institution. CGSC and AWC do
not regularly use BDU, why USMA?
[742] One of the most valuable lessons I received from West Point
was surviving the stress of beast barracks and plebe year. I drew on this
experience in combat and have continued to draw on it in my professional
career as a lawyer. I am concerned that changes in the system have deemphasized
warrior training and substituted an emphasis on political training.
[743] -Have been unhappy with academic broadening (i.e., majors,
etc.) since inception. Should return to "General Engineering for all".
-Believe "changes" have been instituted (honor code)to be politically correct,
but are counter to keeping with the absolute that honor represents. -Do
not believe that women should have been allowed at any of the academies
until the bigger issue of women in combet was resolved-academies do not
exist to train QM officers. I recognize the equal rights and federal funding
issue exists, but its legal mumbo jumbo. Academies exist to train Combat
Arms officers. -Think the academies should take a close look at returning
to smaller (2400??) enrollment. The services (at least the Army) are significantly
smaller that ten or twenty years ago. What percent are really staying in
the service for a career? Can we save significantly in operational costs?
Is this political suicide by the reigning superintendent? -Do not agree
with "civilianization" of faculty. As I understand it, Congress dictated
it some years ago (I may be misinformed) but that doesn't mean I have to
agree. Some years ago, when I was teaching Math, I had for a time wondered
why I was there, not having perceived myself as "smart". We were all Vietnam
Vets. One day, the lights went off in Thayer Hall in the middle of class.
Not knowing what to do, I asked the Cadets in my class (in the dark)what
they wanted to talk about. The first question was, "Sir, what's it like
to be shot at?". A civilian may have a PhD, but he can't answer that one.
I knew why I was there. -What's wrong with the Academy mission statement??
Nothing that I can see, other than we're not fulfilling it anymore. Therefore,
change the mission!!! Rationalization...
[744] Fourth class system has disappeared Spartan attitude is gone
[745] Why tamper with success? I am concerned that USMA will be "modernized"
to a mission that is less than Duty, Honor, Country.
[746] I am concerned that the mission of West Point does not focus
on providing officers to the Army, but rather leaders for America. The
distict impression provided to some new grads (after about 1990 when the
mission changed) is that service in the Army was a secondary concern.
[747] Concern that graduates do not get a regular commission
[748] I wish that I had more information on which to base an answer.
There are things occuring at the Academy that I am sure I DO NOT approve
of - but lack information on which to base a response.
[749] Focus on pure academic excellence in accessions rather than
all around leadership potential. Maintaining focus on leadership and personal
integrity in the midst of a society that seems to value neither. The West
Point experience must be different from all the other academic institutions.
If the West Point officer is no better on average than his ROTC peers,
then we might just as well close the place.
[750] Expedient Pursuit of the Politically Correct.
[751] Every year it seems, USMA is being transformed more and more
into a regular civilian university. It is losing its distinction as a military
school.
[752] Emphasis that we are only producing military leaders, not soldier
/ statesmen or businessmen
[753] 1.Management of the Honor Code 2.A shift of values from toughness
and combat leadership to a softer developmental model which may not serve
as the right of passage required to create a sense of elitism and cohesion.Someday
West Pointers will have to lead in battle again. 3. An overemphasis on
football. West Point should be in the Ivy League. 4. Undue emphasis on
retention of entering cadets. A reasonable rejection rate is necessary
for those who remain to believe they are a special group. Someone should
read the literature asociated with cohesion, rites of passage, and creation
of elite organizations.
[754] 1. Regular Army Commission 2. Inadequate Congressional Funding
[755] The impression I get is that the Academy is moving more in
the direct of becoming an academic institution than a military institution.
This may be a necessary evil but it is still a point of concern.
[756] I am concerned with what appears to be a growing dependency
on private contributions for what I consider essential activities, facilities,
and programs. Are the other academies, or other small colleges similarly
dependent?
[757] I know Dan Christman. I have total confidence in him and the
directions that he is taking West Point.
[758] Change in Regular Army Commissions
[759] Have seen lots of discussion recently about WP recent grads
being out of touch with what 'some' old grads believe the mission of the
Academy should be.
[760] My primary concern is somewhat general in nature. I fear that
current and future cadets are not exposed to, and will not learn soon enough,
the realities of leadership in today's Army in terms of field, garrison,
and social interactions between seniors, peers, and soldiers; military
experience (eg. basic training similar in nature to what their soldiers
will go through); career progression requirements; and generally, life
after USMA.
[761] Its difficult for a busy person to keep abreast of USMA issues/functions/changes
-- AOG appeals to those that are really "in" to keeping up, but offers
little for those who would like to keep in touch.
[762] See Item #17 response!!
[763] Cadet Leadership program
[764] 1. Reserve/RA commission issue 2. Need better athletic facilities
3. Erosion of 4th class system
[765] I am uneasy with the apparent decreased emphasis on academics
and extra-curricular activities other than athletics.
[766] I disagree with going into a football conference.
[767] I think there have been some really interesting points made
in the West Point Forum. (Really should have good AOG interaction/representation
there). I'm very concerned about the direction that USMA is taking in regards
to the 4th class system. Fallout after Spring Break, no yelling at the
plebes---we're taking the heat out of the forging process!! AOG needs to
find out what the grad's think about this and make the current USMA administration
understand how the LGL views the forging process.
[768] Loss of uniqueness. Loss of Military focus.
[769] I have noticed a general trend over the last 6 years of new
graduates not giving the proper respect to senior officers once they graduate.
I noticed this trend as a captain before I left the Army and have received
several complaints about it from friends and former commanders who are
still in the Army. I do not know if the relationships between cadets and
their professors or sponsors at West Point is contributing to this trend
but many officers are disappointed with the attitude and military bearing
of a good portion of recent graduates. When new second lts are passing
Majors and LTCs in the hall and saying "what's up" without even using the
word "sir" something is definitely wrong.
[770] I do not know, but I have been told that not all graduates
are assured regular army assignments. If the army is being downsized to
the point where it can no longer absorb the full graduating class, then
West Point should also be downsized, as painful as that might be.
[771] As a graduate and former member of the USMA faculty, I am disillusioned
by the day to day direction of the Academy. As an officer on active duty,
I must restrain from making comments about my former chain of command.
[772] I am very concerned that we have already eroded those things
that made USMA "Special". We continue (or so it seems to me) to push to
be 'just like' other colleges. We were not. When we are, West Point will
be deleted by congress. I support designated degrees, but the pendulum
of 'don't stress the cadets' seems to have gone so far that there is little
or no difference between what a cadet does and what an ROTC student does.
We need to keep a military focus, and to push the cadets to produce superior
leaders, not just 'average' leaders. We already lost RA commissioning for
each class - what's next?
[773] Drift toward a typical college environment rather than military.
Shift away from tough standards for fourth class cadets
[774] I am concerned that the focus of the academy's cadet programs
has led to a dichotomous relationship between what I would call "USMA Exceptionalism"
vs. "we need to do everything the way the army does it". I believe that
USMA needs to prove that it is an exceptional environment for leadership
development if it wants to continue to exist. However, what I have noticed
firsthand is a desire in the USMA leadership to match what the army as
a whole is doing. This, I believe, plays into the hands of those who would
do away with USMA and commission all officers through ROTC programs. An
interesting point was made by an officer in a recent Assembly who felt
that basic trainees had a much more stressful indoctrination environment
then West Pointers. His points seemed to be backed up in the "feel good"
Sunday New York Times Article. Old Grad Gripes? Maybe so, but I have had
many cadets lament in class that they feel that they are being cheated
out of whhat they thought the West Point experience was all about. Academically,
emphasis on "majors" has made the curriculum chase national accreditation
boards instead of dtermining which are the best core courses cadets need
to have.
[775] Perceived lack of support for athletic programs. Decreased
support in Congress and OMB.
[776] Need more emphasis on the officer-NCO and officer-enlisted
relationships
[777] USMA seems to be adrift in the sea of political correctness
instead of sticking to the business of developing combat leaders.
[778] 1. Moving to a greater concentration of civilian faculty. 2.
Deviating from its original mission of providing officers for a lifetime
career in the combat arms. West Point should not be in the business of
providing the Army with doctors, lawyers, and managers of logistics. Other
institutions can do this better and more cheaply. 3. The de-emphasis of
athletics -- particularly intercollegiate athletics. Emphasis on academeic
success at the expense of developing the Platonic ideal of a sound mind
and a sound body. Let the geeks go to Cal Tech and M.I.T. (i.e. my Research
Assistant who played against the Cadet Rugby team said they were the most
poorly physically conditioned team that they played against.)
[779] Perhaps it is because I just read Blackwell's book on the 1951
honor scandal or that I am a member of the Class of '77 and observed the
EE honor schandal in 1976, I see a disconnect between the Supe's desire
to "greatly" improve the football team while at the same time he is emphasizing
the cadet's dedication to the Army to include a career. The AOG should
ensure that the Corps remains one entity.
[780] I am afraid that I don't know enough about "Where USMA is going"
to give you a list of issues or policies that concern me.
[781] The Academy needs to aggressively change; not to keep up with
changes in society, but to be on the leading edge. That said, one area
in which I believe the Academy must be uncompromising is the Honor Code.
My impression is that continues to be the case and that is good.
[782] Well-meaning people, from the Supe down, who have the "big
picture," make pronouncements and act in good faith on behalf of the Academy.
Interested parties without all the information, from cadets to grads to
friends, don't always have the facts to assess the actions fairly. The
resulting feedback is then discounted by the USMA Staff as uninformed or
emotionally based. The process then repeats itself on the next iteration.
[783] We say something liuke "leaders of character" but I don't see
any discussion of what that means, and through doiscussion with recent
grads in the field Army, I fear that there is little character in those
of the most recent vintage (94 on). I think that the "sacking" of the directlr
of BS&L as reported in WSJ is an indicator that the Academy cares more
about being touchy-feely nice than developing leaders with character, the
strength to do the harder right instead of the easier wrong.
[784] Believe our emphasis should be on duty to the military; which
will indirectly support and benefit the nation. I believe WP is putting
out graduates better suited for civilian life and not the military.
[785] Not familiar enough with the issues to comment.
[786] Traditions are the glue that holds us together. We must change
with the times but we must avoid developing a "collegiate" environment.
I do not know whether the old SCUSA conference by the debate council and
forum is still being held. This is the kind of thing that I believe should
be expanded and which USMA should lead. Our cadets should be visible as
leaders and as thinkers. The Army's role in world affairs has been growing
as in Bosnia and other "peace keeping" activites. We must expand cadet
activites to match.
[787] How would I know.
[788] It appears that USMA keeps its distance from the Army Reserve.
I believe this serves neither USMA's nor the Armys interests. See also
my comments on this topic in question 16.
[789] women at USMA
[790] The Fourth Class System The apparent subjugation of military
focus to "political correctness."
[791] No oppinion
[792] Too much focus on the "Citizen" Soldier.The real focus has
to be "Military Leadership" and if that means a smaller Academy for a smaller
force-that's fine.
[793] Number of civilian instructors compared to active duty Army
instructors
[794] Relaxation of discipline as a learning process Deliberate reduction
of stress Reduction of standards for participation in team or individual
sports Excessive focus on academic matters (majors, etc. vice maintaining
balance in all matters)
[795] Something is not right with 95% of those cadets who start graduating.
I can't believe they have been forged under pressure, as we perhaps were.
I'm not talking about mickey-mouse harassment (clothing formations, etc),
but I cannot see what's wrong with raising one's voice or calling someone
a derogatory name. Far worse will happen when the bullets fly. There's
also something wrong with the cadet's perception of his/her mission there.
So many want to apply their "academic major" to their branch selection,
as if it matters. The Army wants junior leaders, dedicated to their units
and soldiers, not scholars, dedicated to themselves. The recent graduating
classes have turned out some doozies who don't know the meaning of selfless
service, e.g. the breast-feeding Blackhawk pilot, LT Cuevas and her spineless
husband. Something is not getting through to the Corps' collective brainpan,
and it may be the faculty.
[796] The problem I see is not with USMA, but with the government's
direction.
[797] It appears that USMA keeps its distance from the Army Reserve.
I believe this serves neither USMA's nor the Armys interests. See also
my comments on this topic in question 16.
[798] Want to ensure that WP continues to recruit fully qualified
candidates - do not believe in quotas.
[799] I have to admit that I'm not familiar enough with what is going
on to appropriately answer this question.
[800] softening of beast barracks, making sure the academy does not
become soft on "honor'.
[801] softening of the fourth class system
[802] The loss of Regular Army commissioning was a monumental change
for USMA and one which I believe was instrumented in order to diminish
the importance of graduating from the Academy. A step toward making it
like another ROTC source then having some Congressman say West Point costs
too much, we need to eliminate it.
[803] I think the academic program needs to return to the broad general
education and get away from the special degree programs. Focus on the development
of the whole man(woman) with broad engineering and social sciences that
every cadet takes. The specialization is for graduate school.
[804] The supe's focus on physical training facilities for the football
team seems to me to be way off base. It is an issue, but a minor one.
[805] There is discussion about making the Academy an Army 'graduate
school' to further training of the officer corps. I think this would be
too insular and tightly focused to benefit the military, and would detract
from the primary mission of USMA.
[806] I am very concerned that the Sup has to beg for money from
the graduates to fund USMA programs. I think it is a national disgrace
that the congress and the administration refuse to fund the service academies
at the necessary level.
[807] Absolutely; but few, if any of my recommendations are considered
politically correct in this new environment.
[808] The academy continues to follow the trend of our society which
is continually approaching the "bleeding heart liberal" extreme. What kind
of warriors do we think this can produce. Case in point: abolishment of
punishment tours. No learning is as good as physical stimulus.
[809] Thanks for asking. The entire development of a 'new USMA Mission
Statement' seems much like an overdone navel inspection. The results of
what's done at West Point, eg, turning out competent, focused and dedicated
graduates, may be directly related to the mission statement revision exercise,
but I seriously doubt it. The excellence of the output product continues,
as it always will I expect, in spite of the drill, rather than as a direct
function of it.
[810] I am not in a position to comment about issues and policies
at USMA, but neither do I want to say that I am "happy" with the direction
that West Point is heading. I simply do not know if I am happy or unhappy
until I do more homework and acquaint myself with the issues. I would then
be in a better position to make this judgement.
[811] West Point should review its policy on post-graduate atheletic
participation to ensure a uniform policy that most benefits the Academy/Army.
For instance, non-professional sport (eg Wrestling) participants can join
the Army and continue their participation if they are highly competitive
(Olympic level) with Army support. However, if a Football player gets drafted
the Army has traditionally seen fit to force him into an Army career that
will destroy his ability to participate. Clearly, Navy has bent rules to
allow these people to go pro and having pro's supporting recruiting is
in the best interest of USMA/Army. West Point should give these atheletes
the incentive of knowing that, if they get drafted, they can pay back their
education with dollars and/or reserve commitment.
[812] Not aware of all the issues, but am concerned about discussions
of Academy not being funded.
[813] Movement away from officers as leaders toward officers as managers.
The spirit of the bayonet is to kill, not gain a consensus.
[814] My main concern is with the level of commitment the Academy
is inculcating in the cadets. It is my perception that in a smaller Army,
we are not retaining as many graduates as we did with older classes. Maybe
this is reflective of the type of candidate we are recruiting or maybe
it is a reflection of the the preparation we are giving cadets for their
active duty service. Many are disappointed in what they find in the Army
(I think because they had too high an expectation of LT and CPT duties).
Many leave for money. Those obviously lost their sense of mission and service.
[815] Not familiar enough with current USMA policies to comment.
[816] Are we producing warriors? Seems that emphasis is off warfighting.
We need tough warfighting leaders not technicians and clerks.
[817] 1. I find it hard to believe that new USMA grads are not receiving
RA appontments. This is a slap in the face of the Academy and to all grads,
past and future. 2. Women in the military (and the Academies). This is
being terribly mismanaged and the public perception of what's happening
couldn't be worse.
[818] I think that USMA and the other academies could have, and possibly
still can, establish the policy that although there is an unarguable role
for women in the volunteer forces, there is not a need for the academies
to invest their precious resources in this topic.
[819] RA Commissions Financial issues - budget support alumni support
Military culture issues, esp. vis-a-vis political correctness-driven pressures;
training soldiers vs "peacekeepers"
[820] I am very interested in the direction of the academy but I
am unaware of any program the superintendent has with graduates. I would
like to have some input on the direction of the academy.
[821] You can't ever be just "happy" with everything, but I think
that USMA is doing very well, given all of the pressures we face. Just
best Navy!
[822] please see response to question 16 above
[823] As always concern on viable life as i understand new graduates
even today are being offered early outs after only several years of service.
If west point is providing army leaders why hasn't the acquisition process
accounted for the force reduction. If we continue to let graduates serve
minimum active duty tours, aren't we running the risk of downsizing or
elimination?
[824] In a recent Assembly article, I read that our graduates no
longer receive a Regular Army commission. The article went on to say that
the USMA leadership didn't want to fight this battle with Congress for
fear of having to defend the need for the Academy. I find it unfathomable
that this could happen! I think USMA has fallen right into Congress' trap.
Since our graduates are commissioned in the Reserves, proponents of eliminating
USMA will now have more support for their position that West Point graduates
are no different than ROTC and OCS products. Most politicians and their
constituents are not aware of the inherent value of a USMA graduate over
those from other commissioning sources. Therefore, why would the American
taxpayer support the concept of a military academy when it costs so much
more to educate and train a USMA cadet than an ROTC cadet - and both programs
produce the same thing?
[825] Loss of warrior spirit Dilution of emphasis on engineering
for all cadets
[826] Lack of Class rank I am aware of the difficultly of comparing
various "majors" as well as the concern about cadets choosing the "easier
majors", however there are many weigthed options based upon relative standing
within majors which could be used to encourage cadets to choose more demanding
options. Performance should be recognized. Graduates not going directly
into combat arms. This difficult problem and all its political implications
should be re-thought.
[827] Commissioning cadet graduates as reserve officers.
[828] When I was a Tac, we let some cadets come back to the Academy
after being eliminated when their Congressmen got involved. This should
not happen without a fight. The decision to eliminate a cadet is taken
seriously by the COC and politics should not have such an impact and reverse
the decision.
[829] 1. The Reserve Commission for graduates. 2. Exodus of graduates
earlier in Army career.
[830] I am concerned about the general drift of the Acadamey towards
standards, academic and military programs and procedures, militay discipline,
and an honor code that mirrors those at other military schools or at very
good civilian schools with strong ROTC programs. The Academy must maintain
standards of performance (academic and military) and an honor system that
is measured substantially above other institutions,else its value to the
nation is diminished and its cost ever more unacceptable to the Congress.
[831] USMA seems to be moving towards civilianizing its mission and
purpose instead of maintaining the military emphasis it previously had.
[832] There seems to be an emphasis away from training warriors that
is disturbing. I sense there is less intensity focused on developing combat
leaders than there is in meeting politically motivated objectives such
as those espoused by former Asast. Sec. Army Sara Lister.
[833] Lack of funding via Dept of Army. The Supe let the football
coach "dangle in the wind" two years ago- it was unnecessary! There was
a local news column in the RECORD that should be re-read to see how not
to treat people!
[834] As Army decreases see too many "grads" terminating their career
way before the 5 year mark. Not sure that is why USMA exists. Why are persons
allowed to do this?
[835] Not happy about the "touch-feely" episode this year as reported
in the Wall Street Journal. Not happy that the Supe eliminated Area Squad.
Not happy that the current football coach can not work the forward pass
into his attack early on.
[836] Focus on a career that benefits the military services, rather
than supporting the current curriculum that appears to emphasize elective
courses. It appears that today a person could graduate as a music major,
if so chosen. What ever happened to soldiering?
[837] Should be more focused onputting graduates into combat arms.
[838] Sliding scale entrance standards. Variable service commitment
after graduation. Eliminating combat arms service requirements for male
cadets. Eliminating class standings. Making diversity a bedrock value,
and relegating Duty, Honor, Country to a motto. Don't give academics a
major voice in administrative or academic policy.(I spent 18 years in academe.)
[839] Due to the decreasing percentage of Americans with military
service, it is imperative that the USMA mission clearly demonstrates the
differences and benefits of USMA over other forms of commissioning. Part
of AOG's job to get out the information to non-graduates.
[840] My main concern is that West Point must ensure that we don't
try to become an MIT or Harvard. We're in the business of developing military
professionals, not business/corporate executives. It's great to see how
the SAT/ACT scores of our Cadets are superb and we're usually among the
most selective of all universities in this country, but I'm more interested
in the number of Cadets who are Eagle Scouts, high school athletic team
captains, etc.
[841] The new politically correct have empathy with other people
program seems pretty weak to me. I think we need to keep the "winning wars
by killing people and breaking things more efficiently than the other guys"
as the main focus. That is what the taxpayer is paying for and that is
what West Point should give them, whether the politicians want to acknowledge
that in peacetime or not.
[842] Degree of committment to the Army of USMA officers is waning.
Service to the nation is overshadowed by a influential college degree and
what jobs can be gotten after committment is up.
[843] West Point's academic training should be focused on developing
warfighting, interpersonal, statesmanship, and science/technology skills.
[844] Concerned about coming up with a "new" mission statement. The
mission that USMA has had for a number of years seems very appropriate!
[845] Already addressed above
[846] I am concerned with the vision and the actual role of USMA
in the context of a "downsized" military and how USMA will continue to
provide leaders of high caliber to the Army. This may include a number
of points: The vision of USMA's role & mission The rigor of the academic
& military training The graduation commitment (time-in-service) The
commissioning component (RA or Reserve)
[847] Need to spend less time worrying about the sensitivities of
cadets and their perceived vulnerabilities and spend more time developing
leaders with drive and a sense of direction, individuals of character not
of political correctness.
[848] re-instill military service as part of the mission statement.
although i left the army after my initial obligation, i take pride in the
fact that i served; i did not go to west point because i wanted to be a
community leader--that is a by-product. i went because i desired to stand
watch for our nation's defense.
[849] Let's not lose our traditional combat arms orientation (and
an appreciation in our graduates for the difficulty of and importance of
that mission and those soldiers) as we incorporate the social policy agendas
of the moment in what we're doing at West Point.
[850] Maintaining a core curriculum and keeping electives/majors
to a minimum
[851] I do not like the idea of USMA becoming a "graduate school".
I much prefer its present role.
[852] Seems to be moving away from a focus on producing quality company
grade officers to producing corporate leaders.
[853] The Academy does not do enough to train the cadets for service
in the Army. We teach all the military science instruction in a two-week
"intersession." The result is too little emphasis on tactics. We have lost
our sense that we are training the combat leaders of our Army.
[854] The loss of regimentation or discipline in the cadet daily
regimen
[855] Conference USA - I haven't heard a good reason yet why we went
to conference USA
[856] I disagree with the proposed change in the mission statement
to include "a career as an Army officer". I don't think it is a realistic
goal, and I don't want to accept a mission that is unachievable!
[857] Deterioration of facilities should be addressed
[858] 1. Awarding of the Thayer Award 2. Liberalization of the Academy
3. Females at the Academy 4. Recent visit of Pete Seeger, a known communist
- Why? The Superintendent's, embrace of this man by call him "America's
tunning fork" callng him "America's tunning Fork"
[859] Over the past 5 years I have done a good deal of research and
have carefully scrutinized the USMA training and education process. Along
with numerous other grads I am convinced that the warrior credo has been
deemphasized in contravention of what the vast majority of Americans believe
to be the purpose of WP. This has happened concomitently with the matriculation
of females. The leadership doesn't want to address the problem head on
in the interest of being "PC". The AOG should take the lead and insist
on graduating all its male cadets (new officers)into the combat arms only!
Finally, I am going to comment on the supe's proposed new mission statement.
However, everyone should realize that the phrase one hears all over WP
nowadays--national leaders of character--is simply a euphemism designed
to slide by the "combat leader" issue.
[860] I am concerned with the ongoing changes in the Four Class System
and the changing disciplinary system of the Academy. I think tradition
and "right of passage" are being forsaken to appease the press.
[861] 1. I am concerned with the lack of depth in military tactics
education (I have not followed changes since 1993). 2. I believe that West
Point should be focused on providing combat leaders to the Army (and do
it better than any other source) than compete with civilian universities
in providing leaders of character to the nation. 3. I am concerned that
the "leadership" activities in the cadet companies encourage cadets to
look good on paper and are generally unproductive.
[862] USMA must keep its distinction as a MILITARY academy. This
must be its focus. If it tries to compete with other universities against
their strengths it will eventually lose. Military development must take
precedence -- an issue which is slowly changing for the worse!
[863] Tactical officers are the "company commanders" practically
speaking and thus deprive the cadets the opportunity to truly run the corps!!
[864] is there sufficient emphasis on the continuing changes in technology
for computers and related software? is there a relationship between technological
advances and how it could affect the modern theories of warfare? have they
begun to educate proper logistics with emphasis on financial problems in
the real army based on location and need? has the gap about treating women
differently been lessened so that the woman in battle scenario is realistic
versus political?
[865] There seems to be conflict between graduates who made the military
a lifelong career and those who did not. I have seen this conflict in various
letters and articles in ASSEMBLY, as well as discussions I have heard at
West Point Society meetings. It is unrealistic to expect 17-21 year olds
to commit to lifelong career, without having first experienced it. There
is nothing wrong with USMA graduates who serve something less than 20 years
active duty and go on to other productive careers. The primary mission
of USMA must remain to produce officers for a career in the US Army. However,
there also must be a recognition of dedicated service outside the military.
[866] 1. Too much focus on private fund raising, not enough focus
on obtaining "adequate" government funding. If the USNA and the USAFA can
do it why can't USMA ?
[867] I believe very strongly that the graduates of the Service Academies
should be granted regular commisions in their respective services upon
graduation!
[868] I am not really sure of the direction USMA is heading.
[869] The fund raising activities of USMA are of concern to me as
we are now on a slippery slope of in some cases having the Superintendent
deceide what should be funded by the WPF based on what he thinks he can
or cannot get funded by Congress. Chairs in Departments are in my opinion
clearly a responsibility of Congress to fund, not the WPF. This is but
a small example of how the slippery slope will work and once you start
down the slope you will never get congress to fund these items again. The
fee of 10.2% levied on top of each class by the WPF is not to members liking
or does it encourage class giving. The AOG laid on the increased fund raising
staffing without these decisions being laid before the menmbership. There
was no involvement of the members at large in this decision that has been
made. The 10.2% surcharge being charged for class gifts is paying for this
increased staffing of the WPF. We, the members, would like to see the breakout
of the surcharge before we commit any funds to any projects. We recognize
there are costs to fund raising but in the case of class projects, the
funding raising is usually done within the class without WPF involvement
so the question becomes why the 10.2% surcharge on direct funding by specific
classes for specific projects approved by the Supe?
[870] Intersession Military Sceince Training (It seems that a cursory
look is being given to very important training) USMA Rotating Faculty (Military)need
to have a voice for them on promotion/selection boards. If a USMA assignment
is perceived as a career inhibiting assignment, the "good" officers will
not want to come to teach here
[871] I believe the emphasis on minorities of any category has been
successfula nd should be phased out...We do them a diservice by continuing
it. It undermines their accomplishments and achievements.
[872] Stick to undergraduate courses - no master's programs.
[873] I am concenred about the new "mantra" of relavence. I'm not
certain that heading down the same path our society is heading is the best
wayto serve it. I am concerned (as a graduate who has remained on active
duty) about the focus on preparing cadets for a fuzzy "future of service."
The diploma should first last and always mean you are ready to die doing
the hard work this nation requires of its very best. "Selling" the academy
to people who can't live up to (or even comprehend) that standard is a
mistake.
[874] The change in the make-up of staff and faculty from military
officers (many of them graduates)and some civilians to a more even mix
of civilian/military is a concern. West Point is not (and should not try
to be) UCLA, Notre Dame or Harvard. We are preparing young people to be
warfighters. My sense is that the apostles of the Patsy Schroeder School
of National Defense are having undue influence with the Military Academies.
[875] Increasing civilianization of the faculty
[876] Direction of focusing on academics at the expense of leadership/military
training
[877] 1. I see a move away from distinctives and toward the common
elements with the active army. The less distinctives that the Academy retains,
the easier a target it is for congressional cuts. 2. The fourth class system
and the honor code/system are two areas of distinct erosion. 3. The cadet
experience should not be an introduction to Army life, but a unique leadership
and character development experience. 4. I am concerned by the increase
in non-graduates assigened to the Tactical Officer positions.
[878] Concerned that the wealth of academic opportunities offered
are distracting from the fundamental mission of preparing Army officers
for a career of service. I understand some belive the Academy must offer
such academic "plums" to maintain a strong candidate pool, but I believe
that dropping some of the "exotic" majors, etc., will get you candidatetes
who are more interested in being in the Army, and fewer academic hives,
who view USMA as an academic springboard to their real (post-Army) careers.
By the way, I have one son there now and one enroute.
[879] Standards Honor system Women in the Corps
[880] Unhappy with loss of RA commission. What is wrong with current
Mission Statement?
[881] Seeming over-emphasis on athletics at the expense of academics.
[882] During Gen Roger's tenure as Army Chief of Staff, male cadets
were allowed to be commissioned directly into combat support arms with
no prior duty in combat or combat arms. Reason, allegedly, was to preclude
a male cadet suit because female cadets could. This policy should be revoked.
Reinstate policy which requires all male cadets to serve at least two years
in a combat/combat support branch before entering a combat support branch.
Doing this might well refocus on the "warrior" ethos. Many of us "old grads"
feel West Point has lost a bit too much of the "warrior" focus. After all,
that's what the Army is really all about.
[883] I am concerned regarding the integration of female cadets into
the Corps and subsequently into the active duty Armed Services.
[884] I am always interested in big changes in cadet life and in
West Point. Usually the changes I see are good, but some, like the afore-memtioned
sky boxes, worry me. Money should not play a role in cadet's lives on campus,
i.e., some cadets should not visit wealthly or well-connected friends or
relatives in sky boxes after games while others cannot. Cadet summer activities
should relate to activities an officer can expect in his first ten yearsor
so, company grade activities. AOG actions should foster these kinds of
attitudes.
[885] More and more graduates seem to be focused on "life after the
Army" vice a "career in the Army". Need to continue to encourage "careers
in the service" followed by "lifetime service to the nation". Focus the
cadets on prep for these vice what they can major in to transition to a
lucrative civilian career enhanced by a Diploma from USMA
[886] Concerned USMA is not focusing on development of military leaders.
Graaduates are not being prepared to serve in a technolgical sophisticated
Army. Concerned traditional values instilled in graduates are being compromised
as values of our society are beong compromised.
[887] There is a question in the minds of many as to whether or not
the Military Academy is becoming "just another college" and if, in its
attempts to please everyone, it will bring about its own demise.
[888] Too much emphasis on where graduates are going to Grad School
rather than on what battalion they are being assigned to. I received a
letter from an assistant football coach extolling the fact that several
players were going to have an opportunity to play pro ball soon. Let's
get with the program and put the focus back on military officer responsibility
first!!
[889] Not familiar with any current policies except what has been
cussed and discussed on the wp-forum.
[890] The important distinction that USMA makes is the development
of leaders of character. That sets it apart from presumed competition,
and must continue to do so, or West Point becomes just another (expensive)
school.
[891] I have heard rumors of things but am unable to comment because
I lack actual facts.
[892] In general I feel positive about most changes that have been
made in recent years. I question eliminating "area tours." Is there a process
to formally evaluate changes against what are considered to be the "core
values" or most important values of USMA? I am aware of most changes because
I have a son in the class of 2000, and I want to emphasize that I consider
most changes to be positive. I would just feel more confident if substantial
changes were evaluated using some type of formal process instead of just
the personal judgement of the commanding officer. In redefining the mission
of USMA, I would caution against being too "politically correct" and stress
the long-term values and role that the academy has filled.
[893] Lack of overall discipline in the Army at large may be a reflection
of lack of discipline of oficer corps. Weekends off?, no training on weekends?,
family day?, no CQs in barracks?, etc. Who's in charge? Or is that too
politially incorrect to ask???
[894] Concerned about "softening" discipline. West Point should be
challenging, because combat is challenging. The current trend in being
"Politically Correct" is a mistake. Life is hard, basic training is hard,
combat is hard, and West Point shouldn't be out there on it's own.
[895] Male grads should be required to be commissioned in a combat
or combat spt branch.
[896] Continued funding. Need to maintain West Point as a MILITARY
academy for officers in the Army.
[897] Should not have done away w/ the 4th Class System. Emphasis
on intercollegiate sports is misguided... emphasis on military training/academics
should be prevalent.
[898] Too touchy-feely
[899] I'm concerned that the current administration's budget cuts
will impact the mission of USMA
[900] I fear that WP will succumb to the PC environment brought on
by Congressional "weenyism" and begin demanding less of its students. I
do not subscribe to the "Corps went to hell as soon as my class graduated,"
but we received a lot of very bad publicity this summer over some department
head, reverred by his students, essentially run off base by some soft-handed
types. Just a whiff of that rubs those of us who learned just how valuable
those crotchety bastards are the wrong way. Whether it was true is irrelevant.
That we thought it might be true should have been a greater cause for concern
for the administration and AOG.
[901] I do not have enough informationo comment intelligently.
[902] Reject consolidation of Academies into a Joint Academy Continue
to fight the drop in Academic Standards that is occuring at other similar
institutions Return focus to becoming career officers
[903] I still do not like the word "career" in the new (or old) academy
mission statement. That word sends the wrong message to the cadets, army,
and public. The word is commonly understood to have a self-centered meaning
to it. Self-sacrifice is a professonal virtue; self-centered is not. The
army has all the "careerists" it needs.
[904] It hurts me to see WP being neglected by the country. If the
people knew what was happening to this institution, they might react in
favor of WP to a greater extent.
[905] See comments above relating to money and privleges. Parking,
special accomodations in Miche Stadium, etc.
[906] Political Correctness is alive and well at USMA
[907] I hear the fourth class is being relieved of all "Plebe Duties"
following this Holiday Break. That really bothers me as I do not see how
cadets will ever learn a sense of coming together to accomplish a task
under a stressful situation.
[908] Soliciting for funds seems increasingly necessary, however,
I think USMA should consider charging for its educational services as well
as undertake a study to cut out waste and ineffective expenses.
[909] Reserve vice regular appointments following graduation. Reduced
academic load. Reduced objectives for athletic competitiveness.
[910] Worried we are getting to PC Need to reinforce military leadership
[911] 1. Superintendent must regain things which make West Point
unique. USMA cannot be all things to all people. Focus must be the Mission
requirement to produce professionals in the Profession of Arms. 2. Superintendent
must make an unambiguous contract with applicants reflecting the unique
mission of the military academy, expected standards of Duty, Honor, Country,
and disciplined life and isntruction. 3. Superintendent must improve the
qualtiy of leadership instruction. This requires establishing accountability
for all leadership instruction with the Commandant. Military leadership
isntruciton must replace academic leadership isntruction, and qualified
USMA Leadership Instructors put in place. 4. Superintendent must improve
the quality and military professionalism of all USMA Instructors. 5. Superintendent
must eliminate Electives programs to (a) halt academic specialization which
develops a narrow intellectual focus; (b) allow a reinstatement of class
and academic ranking systems; and (c) focus on disciplined core instruction
in science, engineering, and mathematics. 6. Superintendent must provide
year round military leadership experience for Cadets, including summer
service with Army troop units.
[912] Fund raising - see recommendations by Class of '58 commitee
[913] Increased reliance on private funding, My concern is that as
the grads do more, they will be expected to continue to do more, forever,
and that it will be taken for granted after awhile
[914] My impression the system is getting too soft.
[915] I read that article in the Assembly a couple of months ago
about the "new Beast Barracks" and was struck by the tone of it. It seemed
way too purified. The CBT Cdr stated that they no longer glorified "blood
and guts", an obvious attempted slap at COL Tex Turner. When I went through
Beast in 1988, I never had the impression that COL Turner, or those like
him, were trying to glorify blood and guts. On the contrary, they were
the reminder of what we may be called on to do as leaders in the Army.
The tone of everything I see and hear now about USMA is about softening
the experience. "Let's not talk about blood and guts because that's uynpleasant."
Damn right it is, but its even worse to pretend the purpose of the USMA
is to produce legions of polished toy soldiers with no knowledge or inkling
of what their true purpose is; they are to be America's combat leaders.
Good God, I heard they don't even walk area tours anymore, but do community
service instead. If my sons and daughters choose to serve our country some
day in the future, I want them to be led by warriors, not by graduates
of a taxpayer supported finishing school with an identity crisis..
[916] 1) Why did the 4th class system cease to exist? 2) Why has
there been an expansion of DCA sanctioned clubs when funding for these
clubs has supposedly been reduced? (e.g. chess club, redundant clubs for
women and minorities, etc.) 3) Why are there now locks on the cadet rooms?
4) How have the recent army sexual harrassment scandals affected cadet
life / policy ?
[917] USMA should become more aggressive in identifying, then recruiting
top-notch officer (not simply cadet) candidates who are morally and physically
fit with clearly demonstrated leadership skills and life smarts (not necessarily
just academic smarts) -- opposed to the more passive practice of letting
candidates identify themselves and try to select the best from those. Too
many fine poptential candidates -- especially blue chip athletes -- never
even consider West Point or any of the other academies. The USMA web site
should display West Point in pictures and video, tell what the motto means,
relate history through the contributions of its graduates, discuss what
it means to be an officer in the US Army, show how USMA fits into the Armyas
more than a mere college that commissions officers, etc.
[918] I am concerned about the new practice [recently communicated
to me by class E-Mail] of not appointing graduates in the Regular Army.
I would like to be informed about decisions similar to this and of the
reasons for changing the former policies.
[919] Honor Code...l Most important role of West Pointers is to be
the standard bearer for ethical behavio in the US Armyr. Not sure this
is emphasized the way it should be at USMA . Also, preparing graduates
for the imperfect environment of the Army. Too many graduates leave the
Army because they are dissatisfied with the Army they were taught was as
'black and white' as the academy.
[920] Our product is not very good at this time!! That is because
we start with the wrong raw material up front.
[921] Lack of candor of senior leadership Need for diversity overwheliming
good judgment The Hallums Affair A Committe for the Consideration of Others
The "selection process" for Mistress of the Sword The continuing erosion
of personal discipline at USMA The unwillingness of USMA to fight for funding
from DOA as does USNA Lack of willingness to listen to graduates Unimaginative
football leadership
[922] Regular commissions - it's sad to think that such an expenditure
of funds to build a professional officer corps all leads to a reserve commission.Degrees
- is USMA a college or a military institution preparing attendees for military
svc?
[923] Am still concerned about the WSJ article about the de-militarization
of West Point. The Superintendents' action on this issue was unprofessional.
He supported a mutiny. I have read all he and others have said on the subject
and still feel the problem was a result of poor leadership at the top at
West Point. Let's do what we can to keep West Point different from other
colleges or we will lose West Point. Let's rededicate ourselves to making
sure West Point produces warriors that are dedicated to winning our country's
wars!
[924] Fourth Class System Beast Barracks Loss of RA commissions Class
Cohesion Dilution of Combat Arms in importance Outside efforts to reduce
USMA cadet's priority in commissioning/branching process
[925] Discipline and the continued development of leaders that can
perform properly under pressure. I fear that the political influence of
the current presidential administration may have caused a lowering of standards.
[926] I am extremely concerned both with what I read in the Assembly
and what I hear firsthand from CTLT Cadets. I was very displeased with
the recent article on the complete watering down of Beast Barracks by Amy
Blanchard Efaw (SEP-NOV 97). New Cadets and apparently some senior Staff
and Faculty (LTC Ivey) don't know what works in the Army concerning standards
and leadership. I noticed that she is neither a graduate, nor a combat
arms officer. I am an Infantry Officer and company commander. My men don't
want to be coddled and aren't afraid to be challenged, stressed, and made
better by hard training. West Point's leadership must remember that some
of its graduates will still serve in Combat Arms units where men must seize
key terrain and kill the enemy in the process. I believe that the focus
is almost entirely on academics and by the way you'll be an Army Officer
when you graduate. Times have changed and so has society; however, West
Point should not attempt to lead the charge in becoming a kinder, gentler
place to go to school.
[927] See above statement. Word-of-mouth is that the military instruction
aspect is downplayed in favor of pure academics.
[928] WP has moved too far away from central mission of producing
combat leaders. We may have forgotton what happens when you lose (Vietnam
notwithstanding). WP has lost it spit and polish. It looks rundown too.
[929] The de-militarization of USMA concerns me greatly. It also
concerns me how USMA is dismissing so much of the traditional methods of
character-building.
[930] Strongly indorse Sup's efforts to Rewrite Mission of USMA.
[931] The destruction of the 4th Class System. A little stress as
a plebe can produce a lifetime of benefits. While I am not an advocate
of abusive leadership styles, it seems from recent articles in WP-forum
and the Assembly, that there is little stress in the life of the 4th Class.
Academic stress is available at most competitive colleges, West Point is
and should be different.
[932] Females RA commissions
[933] I was not aware that USMA was in the process of developing
a new mission statement. It is critical that we do not lose sight of our
unique attributes and strengths, or we will become one more casualty of
the current administration's short-sightedness.
[934] RA Commissions; "Kinder and More Gentle USMA";
[935] I am concerned that USMA will become too "civilian" and lose
the special aspects peculiar to West Point that make it unique. Conversely,
I thinks it is absolutely critical that in such a diverse and changing
world USMA must make changes and adaptations so it will continue to be
an excellent institution. Input from graduates in this respect is critical.
I think the graduates should have a "real" vote in all major issues concerning
West Point especially now that West Point is more and more dependant on
private funding.
[936] Increase percentage of graduates assessed into Combat Arms.
[937] The shift of focus from preparing future military leaders.
Reduction in the amount of Military Science training.
[938] Reserve commissions for some graduates
[939] BUT, it must keep focused on the direction it has selected.
[940] My last tour in the military was on the USMA S&F. I became
very concerned that USMA was too eager to adapt its policies to meet perceived
societal values, rather than creating an environment that demanded excellence
and standards that were not compromised to meet short term expediencies
and demands.
[941] I am not familiar with the changes in the cadet selection process,
the 4th Class system, academic requirements for graduation
[942] Yes, as a graduate currently serving on active duty, I believe
that USMA graduates, as a whole, perform no better than ROTC and OCS graduates.
I believe USMA has to be the best commissioning source, but I do not understand
why USMA grads do not out perform our peers. Could it be the mission statement
or cadet admisions? Has our mission statement drifted too far from what
our real mission is...providing leaders of character to serve the common
defense. Too many grads focus on getting out, mutual funds, or getting
an MBA. Take the article in the NY Times special 'Education' section last
year. How many cadets mentioned anything about serving in the armed forces.
How many mentioned about preparing for the business world? If USMA does
not refocus on preparing Army leaders, our school will ultimately become
an insignifficant college on a level with the Citadel and VMI.
[943] I recently (last summer during my Annual Training in the Reserves)
returned to West Point. I was very upset to find the rapid deterioration
of the grounds. I went by the WKDT building to find the sign was broken.
I noticed that several buildings had gargoyles that were in need of repair
and that several of the stones in the sidewalks around IKE Hall were broken
or not properly seated. This greatly disturbed me that West Point, of all
places, had into such a state of poor repair. USMA should ensure that it
is preserved for future generations and does not decay any further.
[944] USMA grads are no longer automatically Regular Army commissions.
This equates the effort involved in graduating from the Academy with the
effort involved in graduating from a regular college. This issue should
be revisited.
[945] I do not believe there should be special sub- groups such as
miority graduates association. We are all graduates and do not need divisive
actions to segregate our long grey line.
[946] I am a little concerned to hear that a new mission statement
is being developed--but if graduates are involved, it might return to a
historical mission statement.
[947] I am very afraid that USMA is becoming too much like civilian
colleges. I think the school should train warriors and make no bones about
it. However, it has bent so far to be politically correct that such a major
change in direction is not likely.
[948] The dialog on funding shortfalls in DOD supported activities
caused me concern. There is the suspicion that we believe in USMA, but
that DOD and perhaps the broader Army does not see USMA at the same level
of importance, otherwise the support would be forthcoming. Put another
way, are the other academies having the same difficulties, and if not then
why?
[949] The age-old dilemma: Rate of change in society is increasing.
Need to find the "right stuff" among America's youth means the task gets
harder and harder. How do we keep this "opportunity" appealing to youth,
while maintaining a steadfast mission? How do we "evolve or modernize"
without changing original intent?
[950] The studies done by Dr. Carl Bryant (currently at the Center
For Creative Leadership)indicates West Point does not expand the cognitive
capability of cadets as is accomplished by ROTC Colleges, nence no more
regular commissions. Rather than fight the issue WP should start learning
how to prepare its graduates for a dynamically changing world and compete
for the few regular commissions that will be available. The warrior mentality
attracts only Myers-Briggs ISTJs there are other missions in keeping the
peace.
[951] While it appears that the Academy is still producing some of
the finest officers in the world, there is still some concern that we are
"civilianizing" the institution. The military aspects of the academy life,
coupled with the large amount of officer-instructors are the main difference
between the academy and your everyday, run-of-the-mill ivy league school.
Put the "military" back in USMA.
[952] I am concerned that the teaching of tactics and leadership
has taken a subordinate role to "Competing with the Ivy League". Let us
not compromise the founding mission of the academy to become another Ivy
League ROTC commissioning source. I am also concerned about the improper
use of Tactical Officer staff. More than one source indicates that senior
officers are directing how to accomplish missions (Where and when to be,
how to administer, etc...) instead of allowing captains and majors develop
cadet leaders.
[953] Wondered what happened to Palmer's master planning efforts
-- don't see the zoning having any effect.
[954] My concern is that USMA not dilute its position as the standard
bearer for the development of the Army's future leaders. Focus recruiting
efforts on young men and women who desire to serve a career in the military
- not as a free education opportunity with a six-year commitment following
graduation. If we are afraid that the six-year commitment will deter top
candidates, then I think we have a fundamental misunderstanding of the
kind of person we should be recruiting. We want young men and women of
character, who are dedicated to serving their country as leaders in our
Army. I'd start with that goal and put less emphasis on academic achievement.
I realize that character is hard to measure, but SATs are easy. It's a
tough problem we need to figure out. Again, l'd start by looking at how
we recruit candidates. Appeal to the right values and see who applies.
[955] --screening of candidates before adminssion (ie police records,
character) --lowering of admission standards for recruited athletes, do
not do it!!!! --maintain standards of academincs and conduct --undue influence
of "political correctness"
[956] See number 17. My real concern is that USMA is becoming so
academically oriented that the military aspect might be getting less emphasis.
[957] We are becoming too much like a civilian college. If we do
not show that USMA graduates are unique and worth their cost (because they
take on the hard jobs, are better trained, etc.) I'm afraid that the "bean
counters" will try to close the Academy for monetary reasons.
[958] I have not kept close close enough to WP to answer this question.
[959] I have been in significant contacft with LTG S.B. Berry on
the issue of revising the limp-wristed mission statement as it currently
exists. It must be changed.
[960] Policy on females
[961] I am greatly concerned, as are many, about the decision not
to award RA commissions to USMA graduates. I understand this is a political
"hot potato", and neither the Supe nor the AOG wish to aggressively attack
this issue at this time; however, West Point should exist for one reason
and one reason alone...to provide the Army with its core of RA officers.
Those who choose to be commissioned through ROTC do so by choice, and if
I am not mistaken the R in ROTC stands for "reserve." Being an RA officer
should be competitive, which begins with the pre-commissioning process
and extends throughout one's career. The downsizing issue should not be
mixed with this issue. If you are a reserve officer on active duty, you
must understand, regardless of your performance, you may be the first to
go. Similarly, if you are an RA officer, and are a poor performer, you
should not be "protected" exclusively by being RA.
[962] Must maintain minority recruitment initiatives. MUST get more
Senior Minorities on USMA staff (CBT ARMS)
[963] Wasn't aware that a change was underway
[964] 1. Loss of RA Commission. I agree with those who see this as
a first step toward a serious effort to close the Academy.
[965] Concerned about the apparent diminishing emphasis on the military
aspects of the WP mission.
[966] 1. Lack of RA commission for graduates 2. Lack of vision for
the future role of the academy in our naation 3. Decay of the academy's
physical facility 4. Graduate programs? 5. Decline of military training
in the cirriculum
[967] I'm greatly concerned at the loss of the warrior focus. Current
mission statement is generic enough that the raison d'etre of the school
is threatened. Why not just send everyone to the Kellog School of Government
and close USMA?
[968] Women in the military--keep them out of the foxholes
[969] Concerned with what I consider an erosion of the "Warrior ethic"
and an apparent attempt to include USMA in the development of a kinder/gentler
military force.
[970] I am concerned about the drift from the focused mission to
prepare leaders to fight our nation's wars. I see such things as this new
bedrock value of consideration as a puzzling priority in light of the mission.
I was embarassed to read recently that West Point led the way in changing
the physical requirements so that women could succeed.
[971] General Palmer breifed my class the night we arrived as new
cadets and said that the academy didn't want career officers and if you
didn't want to be one, you could be happy to not be one. What the academy
produced was leaders whether military or civilian. Taht theme was reiterated
several more times,a nd i heard him give teh same speach again as a brand
new 2LT at a Founder's Day Banquet at Fort Benning. I hope that the idea
that the "5 and Fly" program has not been so thoroughly ingrained it can't
be eliminated. I am particularly concerned with the reserve commissions
cadets can graduate with now. Also, is the sensitivity training framed
in a way that communicates that leaders must be able to understand their
soldiers, or is it framed in a manner that communicates that cadets should
expect to get coddled by their company and battalion commanders. Young
officers need to know they stand a significant chance of getting treated
like a plebe again when senior officers are placed in a stressful situation
and they fail to perform.
[972] West Point's role as custodian of the Army's core values
seems diminished vis-a-vis USNA/USAFA because its graduates are a smaller
proportion of its service's officer corps, especially in the post Cold
War period. In short, USMA should not be downsized.
[973] I disagree with the work detail concept replacing walking tours
-- not because I liked walking tours or because I'm an old grad, but because
I think walking the area was a positive contemplative time during which
you hopefully realized that being out there was stupid and intelligent
folks would avoid that in the future. Picking up trash, raking leaves,
or whatever is necessary, but it doesn't teach the same things that walking
the area hopefully taught and I believe is demeaning in the public's eyes.
[974] 1. We seem to be too interested in words. Too many senior officials
seem to think that the solution to problems lies in issuing new regs, policy
statements, etc.. These are needed, but they are not the panacea to cure
all ills. "Duty, Honor, Country" is about all anyone needs to know abour
West Point. What then happens to cadets while they are at USMA will determine
their ability to succeed in the Armed Forces. When I graduated I had the
feeling that I could do anything that I wanted to do. I had that feling
throughout my Air Force career, and still have that feeling. It was my
experience at the Academy that gave me this most wonderful of all gifts.
I wonder if Cadets feel that way today. There are lots of issues(only military
officersshould teach military subjects, the role of graduate courses at
service academies, etc.) that have been discussed recently. Their contributions
to the development of this can-do attitude is what is important.
[975] From what I can tell, it seems the traditional Fourth Class
experience is basically a thing of the past. USMA, esp. "Beast", sounds
like a glorified summer camp now. This is really too bad.
[976] There are lots of areas of concern, but all of the Superintendents
I've known (eight) have done a fine job of dealing with them.
[977] No concerns about policies and directions as articulated. As
a member of the class of '53 and a cadet during the cheating scandal of
1951, however, I am suspicious that there is a difference between West
Points stated aspirations and its actions. It was clear to me as a cadet
that the administration of the academy did not handle the situation with
honor or integrity.
[978] The rumor mill has it that things have become drastically more
lax as far as privileges and discipline are concerned at USMA. Perhaps
I have a case of "the Corps has" syndrome, or maybe the rumor mill is not
reliable (is it ever?)
[979] Need to emphasize grads in the Army reserve components (this
was missing in the question about our profession)-- they are part of West
Point's "benefits" to the Nation.
[980] 1-the reduction of the active duty committment rqmts 2-the
perceived relaxation of rigorous standards , particularly the 4th Class
System
[981] A move away from combat arms to general service. Working toward
a "college" rather than a Military Aacdemy
[982] I am concerned that we may be developing a Ivy League type
institution at West Point. Am concerned that we may not be putting enough
emphasis on being a soldier vice a future leader in America. We need leaders
for the Military. Also concerned that we may be trying to be too politically
correct.
[983] I am concerned that West Point has become more interested in
producing scholars than in producing combat leaders
[984] See notes above on ideals
[985] I'm a little concerned that the class sizes have remained as
large as they are given the reduced size of the military. This has caused
the academy to become a big solicitor of contributions from sources other
than the government. As we've seen in our country's election process, this
can open up the door for improprieties or at least the appearance of improprieties.
[986] - The perceived downplaying of the violent aspects of our profession.
I believe that it is critical that our graduates are prepared to face the
violent nature of the job, particularly at the junior officer level, and
are prepared to lead soldiers in the execution of that violence. The common
sense, rational thought processes and the instincts that the TAC officers
and P's developed in me during my education at the Academy where key in
my ability to successfully execute, thus far, the missions that I have
been assigned. Let the TACs and the P's have the reigns, I am sure they
will do the right thing and the Army will be better off.
[987] I am extremely displeased with the anti-military direction
USMA has taken.
[988] I am concerned that USMA will not survive. The loss of RA "status",
budget-conscious congress, downsizing...all of these will potentially lead
us towards an ROTC only officer corps.
[989] regular vs reserve status army letting usma grads leave the
army before 5yrs..even during a drawdown.
[990] I am concerned about the doing away of the 4th class system.
I am a training company commander, and it is sad to think that the incoming
soldiers go through a tougher forging process than thier future leaders
do.
[991] Attempting to create an atmosphere that is trying to closely
mirror society. As MS101 taught me years ago, many times the military profession
has to make much harder choices than do the civilian counterparts. Back
to military/Spartan basics.
[992] -promotion equity for academy professors -OPMS XXI and USMA
ability to attract high-quality combat arms officers for rotating faculty
-civilian faculty roles -selection process for company tactical officers
[993] I am concerned that USMA may be losing its edge in developing
career Army officers. I would like to see some statistics on staying power
of USMA graduates by rank and year group, compared to other commissioning
services. Of particular concern: can we justify the cost of the USMA experience?
[994] Loss of focus on the main goal of producing combat officers.
Excessive feminization. Excessively academic orientation versus military.
Lack of candor on failings disclosed by the Hallums case.
[995] politically correct to the extreme
[996] I am somewhat concerned with the perceptions of the Fourth
Class System which I received from the recent articles in The Assembly.
I alss must admit that several years ago while visiting the barracks I
was somewhat saddened by the conditin they were in. While they were admittedly
new when I lived in them, their condition had declinde over the years more
than I would have imagined--and some of the things wer ehtings that the
cadets could have fixed themselves.
[997] 1. Loss of RA status. 2. Loss of status with Armed Services
Commitee
[998] I believe our athletic programs are decilining due to the DPE
requirements placed upon athletic coaches
[999] Though the emphasis is primarily service to the Army, the Academy
should encourage cadets to serve in other government capacities as service
to the country and community.
[1000] I was appalled by the NYT Magazine article on Beast Barracks.
Photographs and text were equally depressing. Within moments of arrival
we were made to stand erectly and keep our eyes forward. That sloppy upperclassman
watching a group of New Cadets slouch by, eyes on the heels of the man
or woman before them spoke volumes.
[1001] I am concerned about the commissions that graduates will recieve.
I have read that graduates will no longer recieve RA commissions.
[1002] not a concern---just a statement. i'm glad to see that west
point is modernizing and allowing cadets to have more freedom (i.e. with
the cars adn furniture---well at least i've heard that this is being implemented.
i don't know how true it is). in any case, although i remember not having
those things while i was there, i'm glad to see that they're being offered
now.
[1003] Sir/Ma'am, I just hope that the "new" mission statement is
not a result of the newer classes opportunities to become a civilian straight
out of West Point...I am opposed to this and any changes to the mission
of USMA. It seems to have produced great leaders for the past 2 centuries,
and now we want to change it? Perhaps I'm missing the real reason behind
the change.
[1004] See comments above (#17)
[1005] I think we should emphasize the role of West Pointers as career
officers and the encouragement of West Pointers to "stay in the Army" (or,
in my case, the Army and then the Air Force). We should not make our memorials
and recognition available for money or for political activity.
[1006] I am out of touch with the current thrust in this area and
can not respond.
[1007] I am often disturbed by the way some USMA or AOG communications
seem to speak "for" all graduates on key issues such as downsizing, etc...
Those positions often do not reflect this graduate's perspective.
[1008] The dismissal of the colonel for demanding a strict discipline
venue and supporting two officers that e-mail data indicated were poor
role models for cadets concerns me. I think USMA leadership must stand
up for the full implementation of Duty, Honor, Country. That means not
being politically correct and not choosing the politically correct course
of action. It seems to me that all of the senior officers in all branches
of service are going back to the Viet Nam errar mode of worrying more about
promotion/ticket punching than the right and true course of action.
[1009] West Point's Mission should clearly state that its primary
purpose is to develop officers to help win our nations wars. I think the
Academy (even while I was there) is afraid to make this the Mission because
its "Politically Incorrect" The March 97 Wall Street Journal article on
the relieved head of the BS&L Department clearly issustrates this.
[1010] believe that USMA should * provide combat arms officers for
the Army * provide RA commissions to all graduates * provide only a general
BS degree * return to a stricter fourth class system * return to a stricter
military environment (mandatory meals, formations, etc.) * reduce the size
of the Corps
[1011] I am concerned about the officers selected and actively sought
by the Academy to train, teach, and mentor Cadets. Academically, they are
well qualified. But I do not think the Cadets are getting the best representation
of the Army Officer Corps. They probably are at the CPT/MAJ grades, but
there are too many LTC and COL's assigned to West Point that have marginal
evaluations, and stay for extended tours...4, 5, even 6 years and longer.
This is not a good example...that it's OK to homestead in a comfy job,
hang up your BDU's, and get the West Point leadership to intervene when
its time to go back to the field Army. One of the biggest disappointments
in my current job is seeing this happen on countless occasions. The direction
seems to be more academically oriented than a career of selfless service,
in the field Army, to the nation.
[1012] The equating of West Point education/experience/work level
to other forms of commissioning.
[1013] I am very much disappointed in the disintegration of the fourth
class system. This is not a disgruntled "the Corps has" old grad but a
believer that the presence of stress through the first year truly hardens
future combat leaders. I could not agree more with Mark Elfendal's letter
in the latest Assembly. This is the Military Academy; there is nothing
wrong with that stress even if it impacts the initial year of academics
(though I feel this to be minor if at all.) I also support the reinrtoduction
of reg Army commissions for USMA and DMG of ROTC. I think the Academy may
be sliding down a slippery slope...
[1014] Graduates should receive a Regular Army commission upon graduation.
To equate the training received in a ROTC or OCS program with West Point
is absurd. If the number of active duty officers still needs to be reduced,
do it acress the board as a percentage reduction in all programs producing
commissioned officers for the armed forces. Return the Academy to the elite
position it once held. Graduates should be regarded as the best of the
best among the officer corps, and if Bill Clinton and his cronies on the
hill don't like it, ---- "em.
[1015] More focus on the aspects of military life, understanding
that the rigors of cadet life are challenging. Military intersession should
be in addition to year long course work
[1016] I do not like to see the Supe having to act like civilian
college Presidents - Constantly begging for money from Alumni to keep the
place solvent.
[1017] The Direction the overall Army is heading is very disturbuing
with the current level of readiness at an all time post war low. The underfunding
of training is criminal. If the training at West Point has been affected
to the same extent, then I am gravely concerned.
[1018] I don't feel we should have a Female Master of the Sword.
All grads should be given a RA status
[1019] Graduates not receiving RA commissions
[1020] The purpose of the Academy is to create warriers. Anything
that doesn't support that purpose is superflous.
[1021] Is West Point in danger of being disbanded or closed down
in favor of ROTC?
[1022] According to a recent graduate, cadets get very little hands-on
exposure/experience with Army weapons systems (compared to my Buckner summer
where I fired almost every weapon system found in a maneuver brigade).
If this is true, I am concerned that today's cadets are not getting the
exposure crucial to effective service in a combined arms environment.
[1023] What, if any, will be the changes at WP secondary to the recent
finding that the Army doesn't do coed training well. This is NOT a good
time for the Academy to overreact.
[1024] -Cadet discipline/punishment policies -Ethics and honor education
standards -Pre-commissioning (MQS) military task training & sustainment
[1025] Similar to the recent panel that found basic training to be
to "watered down" due to its current "co-ed" status in the Army, I am concerned
that the current military, disciplinary, and physical environment within
West Point has also been diluted. However, I do not believe this "dilution"
to be a product of female integration but rather, a general atmosphere
of over-sensitivity and political correctness. Society has become too thin-skinned!
[1026] Apparent relaxation of discipline of cadet life due to political/societal
pressures.
[1027] not cognizant but unwilling to say "Happy with status quo"
[1028] As stated above, work effectively to change the "system" that
rewards those who fail to live up to the standards of "Duty, Honor, Country"
and punishes those who do. One place to start would be revisiting the performance
appraisal system. West Point ought to be the model for the systems used
in the Army for evaluation of enlisted and officer performance. I have
not performed an exhaustive literature search, but a book on this subject
that has not been surpassed, in my view, is "Performance Appraisal - Design
Manual" published by F. Fournies & Associates, Inc., Bridgewater, NJ,
copyright 1983. Ferdinand F. Fournies starts with a statement of the problem
and then takes you step by step developing a system that works to improve
performance, not kill people. Ferdinand F. Fournies has written at least
two other books on this subject, "Coaching for Improved Work Performance"
(1978), and "Why Employees Don't Do What They're Supposed to Do and What
to Do about It" (1988). What Fournies preaches is common sense, but unfortunately
the personnel gurus write performance appraisal systems not leaders. True
leaders are too busy in the trenches accomplishing the mission and taking
care of their people. The personnel gurus have other agendas.
[1029] Honor system being controlled too much by the administration
as opposed to the cadets.
[1030] downsize the Academy now before Congress does something else.
[1031] Yes, is the academy going to continue to get easier? I have
twin brothers-in-law currently in the plebe class. They said BEAST was
a joke. If Wsest POint is no longer a challenge for the majority, what
keeps it such valued institution. People need to realize that people want
a chanllenge and not just from academics. Kids come to West POint wanting
to be treated tough(not as bad as the old grads had it in say the 50's
or 60's, but at least a little intimidation.) My brothers could n't believe
it was sucha joke. They were saying to themselves "Whoa!, WEst Point is
real tough!(Sarcasm) At least Academics might challenge us. I don't think,
even with my class, we put stress on people to see what they can endure.
I'd rather see peole freak out in a training environment rather than a
real war. Where does the Supe see the academy going?
[1032] None, that you can control. I think the loss of a RA commission
upon graduation will mean fewer graduates will make a career of the military
- the loss of a substantial investment in time and dollars.
[1033] In the last decade, recent gradusates have been less interested
in military profession and more interested in civil life. May be a sign
of the times with downsizing, but my paerceptino is that it is also from
lack of direction of the academy. Supeis on the right track to fix this.
[1034] Concerned that we are going the wrong way with the "toning
down" of the 4th class system. Are we substituting academic stress for
mental stress in our 4th class development? The ability to deal with academic
stresses will not help one iota on the battlefield. Besides, lots of schools
are challenging academically- what will distinguish the West Point experience
from any other? What about tradition- what will our newer graduates be
able to reminice/laugh about later? I think we are losing something important
here...
[1035] Concerned about continuing talk of disestablishing USMA.
[1036] I think the Academy is trying to develop managers and not
leaders.
[1037] Ensuring the Honor Code remains an integral aspect of a cadet's
life.
[1038] APFT, plebes and yearlings are no longer required to pass
an APFT. The Army requires soldiers to pass an APFT after eight weeks of
basic training. The officers that lead these soldiers should be able to
do the same. It is not unreasonable to require plebes to pass an APFT during
the first semester.
[1039] - We need to return back to more discipline of Cadets. I have
seen Cadets on CTLT and they have not always presented a good appearance,
i.e. pressed uniforms, proper haircuts. - I believe we need to return back
to a more rigid plebe year. - There should be no regognition until graduation
day. (I was shocked when I visited the mess hall before recognition and
the 4th class cadets were talking and joking around at the table!) - Cadets
need to go to the field more. Many USMA cadets seem more unprepared than
certain ROTC graduates as far as basic soldiering skills. USMA graduates
need to be the best if we want to stay respected in the Army.
[1040] Balance between development of combat leaders, academics,
and the softening of the former
[1041] 1. Deleting area tours is a travesty. Yes, they might get
some constructive work done during details, but it takes away from the
true experience of being a cadet.
[1042] I believe the removal of an RA commission further diminishes
the importance of a West Point degree and commission. When you stop to
think about it, what is the difference at this point between a West Point
and ROTC degree? Certainly from the Army's standpoint, nothing.
[1043] Training new grads to be 2LTs or Generals. I think it should
be the former but is the latter. Think this wrong focus makes us less competitive
with other commissioning sources. We should do better.
[1044] I question USMA's apparent departure from focusing on producing
combat arms officers for the Army. If that is not USMA's mission, what
is the value added by the institution? How is USMA different in purpose
from other universities?
[1045] Instilling values and selfless commitment needed for our nation.
Enhance military training into the agenda.
[1046] I am concerned with the apparant need for "character development"
in the current cadets. I am also concerned with the necessity of "consideration
for others" classes. Has our society slipped that fat that West Point is
recruiting the equivalent of "moral delinquints"?
[1047] See comments in response to question 30 below.
[1048] Degree to which recent graduates are petitioning to end their
military service before the req'd 5-6 year obligation.
[1049] See comments in response to question 30 below.
[1050] I am concerned about the moral an ethical development of cadets.
My concern does not mean there is a problem. However, I was in DMI in 1976,
and witnessed the reaction to the honor scandal as well as the admission
of women to the Corps. As part of the response to the scandal, roundtable
discussions were held with cadets regarding ethics and moral values. At
that time I became aware of a wide chasm between the value system I brought
with me when I entered USMA and that held by the cadets we talked with.
The difference represented a gap between the values of the Army as an organization
and the GAP (Grand American Public). I have concerns that the chasm is
getting wider.
[1051] Move to more civilian faculty with TENURE is a very bad idea,
a key strenth of WP is committed, active ARMY officer instructors and Profs..Tom
Faulds
[1052] Changes in disciplinary system are making discipline less
effective and too light on regulation infractions (ie no more area tours,
changes in 4th class system etc) USMA needs to physically and mentally
challenge cadets more than it currently does. It is the only way to foster
the development of leaders who can overcome adversity.
[1053] -Reserve commisions for graduates
[1054] Lack of military leadership--becoming more like a college
[1055] Have not been following issues until recently. New gender
reports and evaluations may certainly have impact on WP and campus life
as well as preparation for life as officer.
[1056] Given the loss of RA status upon graduation. Has the academy's
focus changed? Is West Point just another degree producing institution?
Should its long term goals be re-examined? How does our direction differ
from Sandhurst or French equivalent?
[1057] (1) fund raising (2) importance of intercollegiate athletics
and extracurricular activities
[1058] Providing a broad education is much more important than specific
education for potential specialists. Leave the latter for post grad programs.
Instead provide listeners, speakers, and writers with education concerning
current world affairs.
[1059] must ensure the academy is ready for Army XXI and Army After
Next as well as ready to train officers in the Classroom of the next century.
[1060] West Point is becoming too vanilla. It is giving up many of
its traditions and practices that gave us character. I do not want to sound
like an irascible Old Grad. But when I read that the supe has done away
with area tours ( I only walked 4 hours and will never forget it) I get
discouraged. The comments of Mark Elfendal '89 in the Feb 98 Assembly (Letters
page 2 The Corps Has...?) are right on.
[1061] See list of things that AOG ought to attempt to further. They
are all concerns about the direction of USMA. In addition, I do not agree
with the necessity/desirability of reinventing the USMA mission statement.
I als do not agree with the wording of theproposal that the current Supe
is pushing.
[1062] Reinstatement of historic 4th class system
[1063] It would be politically incorrect for me to discuss my concerns.
[1064] 1. Lost its focus on producing professionals for the Regular
Army. 2. Intent on becoming a top educational institution at the expense
of professional development for military career. 3. Adopted methodology
of making the environment "like any other college." 4. Accommodates too
much to the "politically correct"as defined by current liberal society.
[1065] Sounds like an OLD GRAD but I am concerned about the liberalization
of the institution. Too many civilian instructors. Too many privileges
for cadets.
[1066] I am concerned with the way men and women are being integrated
in to the service. I am not aware of specific problems. But I am just concerned
about the expectations that men and women have of each other and how those
expectations may not mesh with the reality of the differences between men
and women.
[1067] Not awarding RA Commissions to graduates. Not enough emphasis
on providing elite combat leaders for the Army. Too much emphasis on "technicians"
and not leaders. Going technical will only give ammunition to the question
"Why USMA?"
[1068] Apparent trend to eliminate the "non-academic stress" aspects
of cadet life. It is not clear to me that the 4th class system as it existed
was entirely a bad thing. A benefit was to engender in Cadets an individual
determination to persevere in the face of adversity to achieve a goal.
I do agree with the current emphasis on team-building discussed in recent
articles, but both should be able to co-exist without damaging the other.
[1069] Not all graduates becoming active duty and having to compete
with ROTC
[1070] I am concerned that the current Supe (a classmate) made an
appeal for improving the facilities at West Point and most (including my
class) responded by funding monuments and waldways which are appreciated
by the tourists but do precious little to improve the lot of the average
cadet or his career potential.
[1071] Deemphasis of moral and ethical values in every aspect of
Cadet training and education(perceived).
[1072] I want to see a return to the practice of developing combat
leaders for the defense of our country- not scholars!!!
[1073] Impact of Downsizing and budget cuts on the quality of education
and the West Point experience of the cadets and future graduates.
[1074] Need to connect the faculty more closely to the real Army.
They have become a subculture and the civilianization of the faculty has
been a failure.
[1075] Prceived erosion of support in executive/congressional leadership
for the service academies as relates to budget and understanding of their
contribution to the nation.
[1076] While I recognize there was not a choice in the matter, I
am seriously concerned about the reduction in combat readiness associated
with the placement of women in the combat arms. I believe the AOG should
adopt a clear policy on this issue that reflects the large majority view
of graduates with combat experience.
[1077] One has the perception that the inchoate long term goal of
elements in the Congress is to eliminate USMA. "Just look how well the
non-USMA officers are doing [indicator, comparative #s in flag rank]."
Somehow or other USMA (and its sister institutions) have to inculcate in
the minds of Americans that their West Point is the quintessential element
in ensuring the country's continued possession of a first rate Army Otherwise
I think that gradually with pricks here and there the Congress will look
to Academe to produce its officers. Demise will be analagous to that of
military medicine.
[1078] My impression, unfounded though it may be, deals with an overall
societal trend in lowering the standard of achievement to the point where
mediocrity is ultimately rewarded. My sense is that this is happening at
the service academy level as well as in society and it is disappointing
to see that happen.
[1079] I believe USMA is doing a better job of preparing cadets for
service in the Army. However, changes over the last 20-25 years have been
so radical that I fear there may be a disconnect between "old grads" and
"young grads" concerning their view of their West Point years. Service
in the Army beyond the minimum obligation and participation in local West
Point Societies tends to bridge this generation gap, in my opinion. Old
grads need to keep up with what is happening at USMA and in the Army.
[1080] I think that the USMA has somewhere forgotten that its mission
is first and foremost to develop soldiers who will lead troops into combat.
Anything else is superfluous and is just adhering to the "Flavor of the
Month" leadership theory. There is a very strong belief in America that
USMA is just another Northern Liberal Arts College. If that thought is
manifested in the halls of Congress, why is it needed at all? To quote
Steven Covey, "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing."
It apperars that West Point is more concerned with social acceptability
than with the providing of warriors to our nation. of soldiers.
[1081] Inadequate funding by DA.
[1082] I believe the Commandant's intended plan to do away with the
fourth class system is a significant issue and is misguided. It historically
has played an important role in identifying individuals who are capable
of assuming the stress and pressures of command. The Commandant's dismantling
the system represents another step in the lowering of West Point and Army
standards. Pretty soon West Point and the Army will be as pathetic as the
rest of society.
[1083] The Admissions Office seems to be doing very little grassroots
development of women and minority candidates. I have been sorely embarrassed
to see what Annapolis and Air Force are doing in comparison to West Point.
Seems we need to take some Admissions lessons from the otehr academies.
This has been extremely disappointing.
[1084] I am still concerned about the female effect on the male standards.
[1085] While I agree that academic excellence is important to the
development of young officers, cadets must be stressed. They can be stressed
with the 4th Class System (don't limit food), academic requirements, and
discipline. We're preparing cadets to be "computer nerds" without focusing
on their ability to lead, handle stress, and serve as officers in a very
dynamic military. Allocate more funds for Airborne, Air Assault, DCLT,
CTLT, etc. As a cadet, I received most of my Army orientation while at
CTLT - make cadets get out there and be stressed.
[1086] Retention of graduates on active duty.
[1087] I am quite concerned that Congress appears to be looking to
graduates of the service academies to provide funds or funding for some
activities at said academies which were in the past funded by the government
or Congress. Once started in a major way, it will be impossible to revert
back to the funding practices of the past. This snowball is already beginning
to roll.
[1088] I have heard the following rumors which I find a bit troubling:
the elimination of the Area, and the practice of making bunks with "green
girls" instead of gray blankets. I heard that the idea behind getting rid
of the gray blankets was to encourage breaking sheets nightly. It seems
like what has happened was that instead of maintaining a standard, we are
settling for a lower one. I have also heard that USMA is attempting to
recruit a higher caliber cadet candidate by offering more ways to go to
medical school, law school, and pro sports. I think that getting smarter
future Army officers is a great idea, but will we encourage fewer graduates
to leave the service for higher paying civilian employment?
[1089] Application of the honor code. My impression from living in
Colorado Springs and in the vic of the Air Force Academy is that expectations
(in military and civ world) of 18 and 19 year olds today regarding honor
is low; that going through college without lying, cheating or stealing
is just no longer achievable. I consider this BS. Our military academies
need to maintain the standard when it comes to honor - it's really what
separates us from the rest of the colleges around the country.
[1090] I have sensed a trend towards not recognizing the value of
West Point Graduates who leave the service after the minimum required service.
Many of us have made an impact on our community by starting businesses,
etc. These civilian contibutions to the nation are also important, just
different than a career in the Army.
[1091] 1. The demise of the 4th class system, and the diminishing
emphasis on warfighting. I do not believe that ever cadet who drops out
is a failure of Academy leadership; I do believe that every cadet who graduates
and who should not IS a failure of Academy leadership. Civilian colleges
have attrition; we should have HIGHER attrition. I also do not believe
that we should equate leadership at USMA with leadership in the army. Cadets
are smart enough to know that plebes aren't privates. USMA should be more
difficult than the army. That's the difference it provides over ROTC; the
standards are harder; a cadet is nurtured, he/she is challenged; the program
should be qualitativly different as well. Wearing a uniform to class every
day is not enough of a distinction between USMA and ROTC.
[1092] Concerned with the long term success of USMA when the military
continues to be reduced and played down.
[1093] Having been an instructor at the Academy, I am concerned about
the cadets' acceptance of the toleration clause to the Honor Code.
[1094] As stated above mission needs to change back. Academy needs
renewed focus on academic institution.
[1095] I have two suggestions: 1. I am concerned to hear from graduates
that they regard the status of women and minorities at USMA to be clearly
"different." We all want to see women/minorities succeed and take their
rightful place in the Academy and in the Army -- but I am getting scuttlebutt
that they seem to get more lenient treatment in the disciplinary system,
honor system, and perhaps also in academics. I hope this is rubbish. I
suggest the TD sound out trusted cadet leaders on this issue, and perhaps
consider a means to counter an impression within the Corps. That could
be done by counselling in small groups, or having the first class deal
with this perception among the cadets themselves. I hope the issue is in
fact one of misperceptions. If not, then the Academy has a problem. Political
correctness does not square with the ideals of duty-honor-country, and
sets up sub-cultures in the Corps which work against Academy goals. If
women and minorities need more help in some aspect of Academy life, then
by all means set aside time and resources to help them -- but they have
to get through the same wickets as everybody else. My experience is that
stories of favoritism, if true, do more damage than short-term heat USMA
may have to take for not being so politically correct. 2. The second issue
is of public communications at the executive level. In an openly contentious
age, the Internet and other media foster the linking up of affinity groups,
to include many who do not have the best interests of USMA or the country
at heart. Often hot-headed and shrill, such groups are clearly going to
cause more and more trouble for the Academy. West Point needs to arm itself.
Why can't the AOG organize a stable of blue-ribbon spokespeople (as SECARMY
does with DA regional and state representatives) to help tell the Academy's
story, contact opinion-makers discretely, and if necessary to explain and
defend the USMA position in articles, op-ed pieces, TV appearances, etc.?
In a looming public affairs crisis, after DA and USMA have said what they
need to say to Congress or the public, the Supe should be able to call
on blue-ribbon talent to augment and personalize the Academy's case. I
am talking about Schwartzkopf, Rogers, Meyer, Franks, Cronkhite, Bush,
Shultz and myriad other distinguished figures who love West Point and have
the recognition to give persuasive witness and to help deflect misguided
criticism. The AOG needs to consider how to set up such help responsively,
pro-actively to help the Supe from getting personally enmeshed in what
is clearly going to get much worse. Other universities have discrete "support
groups." Why can't we? Finally, the AOG can give the Supe some political
cover -- he needs to distance himself from some issues.
[1096] The Academy is becoming too politically correct. Decisions
are too focused on looking good to the media and ignoring the fact that
our job is to train leaders to wage and win wars (filled with horribly
politically incorrect situations).
[1097] Potential conflict between an effective private fund-raising
system, and the need to present a continuing convincing case in support
of gaining/retaining appropriated funding. I am concerned that the Congress
may lean to reducing the latter because of success with the former.
[1098] Happy to see the Superintendent's initiatives with regard
to mission. Need to redouble efforts to promote the Academy as a source
of "leaven" for the bread called "US Army."
[1099] I support those who thought the word character was redundant
[1100] see item 17
[1101] Need to keep something in the mission statement like what
is proposed about having officers who are dedicated to a career in the
Army and service to their nation. If that is not there we are just an officer
factory that gets the minimum service out of many graduates. The root of
the problem is that we attract candidates with a short term focus instead
of candidates who are interested in a career of service. It is similar
to our Army recruiting program now: we advertise 'join the Army and get
money so you can go to college'. Then we have trouble with reenlistments
and find out all the soldiers are getting out and doing what they always
intended to do - go to college. It is hard to change their minds and certainly
we can't get mad at them. They are doing what we asked them to do.
[1102] I am not sure but I have heard that Plebes get a lot more
priviledges than before. I am not sure if that is true, nor am I sure of
the rationale.
[1103] The Academy needs to focus on keeping and attracting leaders
who intend the Army to be a career and not just for a good education knowing
that they can get out a year after graduation. I suggest increasing the
mandatory commitment to 8 years or more. Also inact DA legislation that
will not allow Academy Graduates to take early out options to the National
Guard.
[1104] Graduates are not "Duty" focused-seem to be focused on self
USMA does not produce officers with a career mentality and service to nation
as a driving goal-many are self centered Mission should return to producing
combat arms officers to serve the nation-any college can produce leaders
for America We are loosing our way and what the Academy was established
for.
[1105] 1. The movement away from RA commissions for graduates
[1106] Cadets need to be given intensive courses in "survival skills"--financial
planning, how to determine life, disability, health and car insurance needs,
factors to consider between renting and purchasing, what a mortgage really
means etc.
[1107] 1 Mission Statement 2 What I consider to be the gradual change
from a military academy to a civilian college. in uniform.
[1108] I think General Christman has got it right. for some time
now the Academy has been producing graduates whose purpose in life is not
service to the Army but as a springboard to jobs in government and the
civilian sector.
[1109] I am concerned about the elimination of several traditions,
including the walking of area tours, the dinner meal, continued weakening
of the 4th Class Year, etc.
[1110] Gender norming of leadership and physical fitness resutls.
Graduates are asked to contribute money often. How much money is contributed
by parents of cadets to sports programs. Please identify by sport? Especially
concerned about sports which have minimual leadership value impact. Point
being with over 25% of the corps involved in intercollegiate sports have
we watered down many of these teams just so we can show up. In some cases
I feel its a waste of money for cadets to be competing in sports that were
traditionally club activities and should remain so.
[1111] Where is the focus on training combat leaders - not managers
of technology? Our soldiers deserve hard charging, great leaders, not consensus
builders.
[1112] I feel a lack of financial support from the Army fiscal appropriations.
For example, it seems incongruous that the military can fire million dollar
missiles, but not rebuild the fire-ravaged pistol range.
[1113] The substitution of "educationally correct" courses at the
expense of military-oriented courses (Military History) should be reviewed.
Many of the graduates of today's professional schoo;ls are well oriented
on social issues, but lack a deeper understanding of their craft, this
being traceable to shortened professional background studies to make room
for social awareness studies that may or may not be useful to the professional
in his/her work. An active curiosity on the part of the student is not
a good substitute for formal, expository instruction.
[1114] Not enough information to answer.
[1115] 1. The mandatory number of civilian instructors.
[1116] 1. The RA commission problem, which is larger than just the
USMA aspect of it . 2. The Performance and retention of females graduates.
3. The civilian instructor growth 4. The reduction of stress during plebe
year (include the shortening of the time period that plebes are in a truly
stressful environment) 5. Graduating by Order of Merit. That the way life
and taking it away from cadet life represents a step backward in their
preparation for like as an Army Officer. Reciting everyday in every class
is another step backward. I found that training absoluting invaluable when
I was doing my graduate work at the masters and doctoral levels as well
as in my commissioned officer career.
[1117] Is this proposed mission change really necessary, or is the
Supe just trying to leave his mark? I read his letters, but I'm not convinced.
[1118] deminished emphasis on developing combat leaders
[1119] I am concerned about a lack of understanding of the importance
of military academies (not just USMA; I have a son and daughter-in-law
who graduated from USAFA in 91.) in the past and future well being of this
nation on the part of the Congress and some of the leadership in the Armed
Forces. This is demonstrated best by the failure of the Administration
and the Congress to provide an adequate level of support to the Academies
in the current and projected budgets and the fact that we graduates are
being asked to support many activities and projects that were previously
supported with appropriated funds.
[1120] The common perception that the Academy's mission is re-focusing
it's efforts on the more "soft" elements of leadership and skills, rather
than on the more warrior elements of being an Army officer. This includes
many of the disturbing topics discussed in the USMA listerver. This includes
those topics that address the formal or informal USMA and Army initiatives
that are softening and padding the West Point "experience" so as to meet
the demands of the more politically-correct environment that is so popular
today.
[1121] Unethical treatment of older professors in the physical education
department - demanding that they receive a PhD to stay employed after providing
so many excellent years of teaching and mentoring cadets. Somebody should
be relieved of duty for pushing this terrible policy.
[1122] I plan to go to WP to view the current 4th Class system. I
help as an admin rep and feel uniformed on the changes in the system.
[1123] Not enough info to judge.
[1124] All in all, happy with direction, but probably not informed
enough with current issues to comment in a meaningful fashion.
[1125] I personally concur with the current USMA position that any
short term attempt to "reverse DOD poicy regarding elimination of automatic
regular commissions for USMA grads" would be a non-starter in todays political
climate.. Besides, if we are as good as we say, then USMA would be very
competitive in RA evaluation down the line.. On the other hand I have strong
concerns, on behalf of any young commissioned officer from whatever the
source, about withholding that evaluation until the 10th year. Many outstanding
officers will be unwilling to wait that long considering the professional
risks involved..
[1126] It appears that the function of the school no longer is developing
officers for the combat arms. I think this dilutes the school's focus and
uniqueness.
[1127] 1. I'm not happy with the enforcement policy of the Honor
Code. 2. I think the mission statement needs to remain Army-oriented, without
mention of "leadership" of the country (implying civilian sector)
[1128] USMA is becoming too much like a regular college. We cannot
allow the academy to become a social experiment and become too soft, because
it only endangers the future of the institution.
[1129] - Focus on academics vs. service. At the Navy game last month,
and with new lieutenants who have recently graduated, there is a clear
"what's in it for me" attitude. Complex problem, with roots in society
and the pool we draw from, but the trend is disturbing.
[1130] Heard rumors of the commissioning process changing for cadets
that did not sound positive.
[1131] See answer to 15. I recently attended our 40th reunion at
WP. I was amazed at how unkept, ill disciplined and poorly trained the
Corps looked. Perhaps since all firsties are officers, one in each company
can be the OIC of close order drill. The alternate (?) First Captain, trailing
the staff as a caboose, is ridiculous. I fear these are indicators of a
larger problem that is not apparent to anyone no longer closely associated
with USMA but which crops up in the disturbing rumors of the poor regard
graduates are held in when they reach units.
[1132] I am not close enough to what is happening to say that I am
either happy or unhappy
[1133] I recently attended my 10 year reunion. I have to say that
the physical changes like the "new" Thayer Gate look good. However, I feel
that some changes like the cadets no longer having to go combat arms is
a mistake. USMA is becoming like any other commissioning source. This begs
the question--is the USMA cadet going to give the Army something that an
ROTC cadet can't give? If the answer is no, then you may as well close
down the academy. It is a lot less expensive to get a 2LT from ROTC.
[1134] Must work to maintain its distinction as a military academy
versus trying to be just another officer commissioning source.
[1135] 1. Not graduating with Regular Army commissions is a serious
reduction in the stature of West Point as a whole. I read the comments
in last Assembly and find it disturbing that there doesnt seem to be a
recognition of the importance of this point. If there isnt a change of
attitude, West Point will continue to lose support in Congress and with
the public to the point that its very existance will be rightfully challenged.
2. I know as an old grad I have the right and responsibility to point out
that "the Corps has.." But I am disturbed to read and here that it at least
appears Army Basic Traing is becoming more challenging than Beast, much
less Plebe year.
[1136] Regular Commissions vs Reserve
[1137] At all costs, resist gays at West Point. The Army's primary
mission is to train warriors to fight. We are not training country-club
gentlemen. I hope the recruiting process somehow attempts to identify gay
recruits.
[1138] Becoming a parent while a cadet should not be tolerated. Academic
courses and military training should support careers in the combat arms.
[1139] I'm concerned about USMA's ability to maintain a clean dividing
line between funding for academy operations provided through traditional
government sources and the application of funds from graduates for improvements
that go beyond the baseline costs of operating and maintaining the institution.
I am not familiar with all of the details around the issue of granting
graduates Regular Army commissions upon graduation, but I think that the
retreat from this practice undermines the significance of the role of USMA
in providing top tier officers, at least insofar as the public's perception
of that significance.
[1140] * RA Commissions
[1141] I am concerned that cadets are no longer automatically entered
into active duty and that branching into combat arms is no longer mandatory,
even temporarily.
[1142] Need stronger position for graduation with Regular Army Commission.
[1143] Too much breaking with tradition. Example: no Saturday class,
more free time, plebes falling out etc.. Physical condition of barracks,
painting cracks in walls etc..
[1144] I am not sure what direction West Point is heading in since
I have personally never been able to link academy activities directly to
force structuring in the Army. I am becoming more of a believer that the
academy should become more structured as a graduate or finishing school
for cadets that come in with already having a undergraduate degree.
[1145] I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY OUR ENROLLMENT IS MAINTAINED AT THE
APPARENTLY HIGH LEVEL OF 4,000+/- CADETS , AND YET THE SERVICE OFFERS EARLY
OUT TO MANY GRADUATES. In light of the fiscal attention all the adademies
are receiving from congress and their constituents, would it not be prudent
to be proactive and "volunteer" a cost cutting plan that involved lowering
enrollment? It must anger the public to hear of the $250,000 education
our cadets receive and then hear of some who do not fullfill their commttment
of 5 years - at the request of the DOD.
[1146] Regular commissions for grads. Retention of grads in Army.
[1147] Don't really know enough to comment intelligently. Same applies
to several of these questions.
[1148] Should have a category of:"Not familiar enough with process."
[1149]
[1150] 1. Military Science and leadership training should be expanded.
[1151] Seems the Supe is too much a fund-raiser, as in Civilian colleges.
He demeans the USMA by worrying so much about 'better'sport facilities.
Rather have him worry about getting the best trained/educated grads with
available resources. Too much emphasis on sports--they are important but
not not that much.
[1152] There is too much emphasis on political correctness rather
than on producing leaders for the Army to accomplish its combat mission.
[1153] Loaded Question. Let me see list of where you think West point
is going. I believe then I could identify some areas of concern.
[1154] I think that West Point needs to continue in the direction
of training the cadets better toward the Regular Army.
[1155] I'm concerned with the lack of 4th class system. I feel that
it is very important that plebes be able to learn to function efficiently
under stress- be it physical or mental. Much of my personal development
I owe to that system that has been moth-balled.
[1156] Class gifts. Does class have choice or must class choose from
provided list?
[1157] How do we justify our academy when so many graduates are not
committed to a full 20 year career.
[1158] see answer to 16 above
[1159] Tradition - Tradition - Tradition & Emphasize Professional
leadership both civilian and Military ... Hybrid type education
[1160] Building leaders of character should include an intense experience
to develop young bodies and minds (ie bring back the fourth class system)
[1161] Do what it takes to USMA funded as a national institutiuon
[1162] In general, the direction is appropriate. I'm not familiar
enough with the full spectrum of West Point policies or issues to endorse
a blanket 'happy' statement.
[1163] My wife and I sponsor many USAFA cadets and also have sponsored
several USMA graduates as they arrive for duty at Fort Carson. In my opinion
there is a single thing lacking which has been greatly detrimental to the
quality of our current graduate. I was once told during my training at
USMA 1953-1957 "The finest steel must go thru the hotest fire". It seems
to us that the hot fire has been replaced by an attitude of physical accomodation.
In other words, over the years we have slipped into a mode of making our
cadets comfortable in lieu of marching them thru that "hottest fire" that
makes me proud to wear the West Point Ring and know that I am part of that
Long Gray Line. I spent over 35 years working as a State Admissions Coordinator
for three DAD's. Colonel Manley Rogers, Colonel Al Rushton, and Colonel
Mike Jones. On my watch there have been over a thousand members of the
Corps of Cadets admitted under my supervision. The quality of the individual
being admitted is increasingly better each year, however in late 1989 to
present day I have observed a product that may not be of the fiber to be
tested in the "hottest fire." This concerns me because as I "reach from
the shadows to grip hands" with the newer graduates I need to be sure that
the West Point ring means the same to that new grauate as it has always
meant to me. Service to Country, service to The Academy and most important-an
emblem of something to die for.
[1164] In this time of cutbacks in the Army, I think the cadets need
to understand the value of selfless service to their nation.
[1165] The USMA leadership is too concerned with being politically
correct and appeasing the media, They are too scared of calling attention
to themselves and offending Congress. Anything being done at the Academy,
be it a tradition (4th Class System) or a bonding ritual (blood wings),
that could even remotely be cause for a news story on a slow day at CNN
is tossed away and rationalized as "no good officer would ever do that
to his soldiers". The Academy leadership needs to show more back-bone and
stand up for what makes West Point unique.
[1166] Too much weight given to athletic prowess in the cadet candidate
selection process.
[1167] 1. I believe that USMA is giving up on the old plebe system
too quickly. OK to change a little but why so fast? Old System has proved
to have done a pretty good job!!
[1168] USMA needs to Market itself as a top educational and the top
leadership insitution in the nation. We can not just sit a hope to have
the young talented people apply. Tell the youth of America that we at good,
tough and want the best to lead the best.
[1169] After serving on the USMA academic faculty during the period
when academic majors were instituted, I have concerns about 1) overspecialization
of academic disciplines, and 2) watering down the historically strict academic
standards imposed upon cadets. Today's Army requires its officers to maintain
a degree of technical sophistication, and reducing the hard science/engineering
requirements for graduation are going to end up being counterproductive.
[1170] There have been a number of controvertial issues in the past
year, of which I don't have the details at hand -- Col ?? Leadership Dept??
General concern is whether the current cadets are being developed with
a true sense of "Duty, Honor, Country" or are we beginning to turn out
wimps!
[1171] Reserve commissions Early outs Challenge of the leadership
system
[1172] We teach it in CGSC! Good example for students writing their
Leadership Papers.
[1173] 1. I am very disappointed by the fact that rooms have been
installed with locks. The Supe gave an explanation for this during a 1986
reunion address, but his answer did not satisfy me (and most of my classmates
I spoke to). 2. It seems to me that the academy places too much emphasis
on stressing politically correct themes, such as sensitivity training.
The overall priority should be to instill a warrior mentality into the
cadets. Unfortunately the warrior mentality can be foreign, even offending,
to those outside of the profession of arms, and I am concerned that the
academy is attempting to be appease all those who are concerned. 3. I hear
rumors through the grapevine that the honor system is loosing its teeth
within the Corp. Although I'm not aware first-hand of any specific examples,
I certainly hope this is not the case.
[1174] No list. I am just not sufficiently aware of what is going
on to ratify process being followed.
[1175] Loss of focus on discipline, military mission; too much social
reengineering experimentation.
[1176] Why is the mission statement not permitted(?) to say anything
about education? It seems to me that for a degree-offering-institution,
shouldn't something be said to the Superintendent that "he must provided
a (Fill in the blank, as appropriate) education in accordance with blah-
blah-blah. It does seem to me that academics are the single overwhelmingly
dominant factor in remaining at the Academny for four years, yet there
is no mention of "education" in the mission statement (is there?). Just
a thought.
[1177] Don't have enough information to vote.
[1178] Concerned with the potential for erosion of values due to
external pressures to conform to transient/shallow societal fads and pop
psychology...particularly with reference to the honor code and 4th class
system
[1179] Keep standards high.
[1180] We are moving away, more and more, from being a military academy
and one that prepares many graduates for civilian careers as soon as possible.
What even happened to the needs of the service. Time to tighten the shoe
but with all of the "touchey-feely" today I doubt that will happen. The
Superintendent leading cheers may make him feel good but does not befit
the dignity of the position.
[1181] I disagree with the goal to make all West Pointers career
officers. Serving a five year commitment pays the nation back and brings
in people with greater political diversity.
[1182] USMA has lost the bubble. It is no longer an institution dedicated
to providing warriors for the Army. it has been feminized and diluted.
The mission stement is only the first example of this decline. Where is
the emphasis on "winning our nations's wars'? Instead it is on PC BS such
as of "consideration for thers, etc., what a crock! I hope our enemis don't
find out how far off the track we've gone--and not a PEEP from the OLD
GRADS!! Too many G.O.s don't want to be ostracized from the GO Club--don't
want to tell thier friends that they've lost the bubble. Too bad most grads
have NO IDEA what is going on inthe Armt today--you would weep.
[1183] I would like to see graduates be able to take their commissions
in other services more freely. I have enjoyed serving in the Air Force,
and have appreciated the background that USMA provided me for leadership
in the A.F., and the civil community as well. Paying back the DoD for the
four-year education with service in a branch other than the Army is still
payment in full. In addition, in a world where joint or "purple" is considered
a good thing, a commission in another service might even be encouraged.
[1184] Concern that USMA is becoming another ROTC program. No area
tours is a classic example.
[1185] Minority and female recruiting.
[1186] Electronic Newspapers Minute callers Cows with civilian cloths
in rooms
[1187] - Should be a Military Academy, but the continuing movement
to fully conform with all aspects of what society currently deems "politically
correct" or succumbing to the softening mentality takes away the distinction
that the Academy once had (as few as 5 years ago).
[1188] I would be interested in being apprised of legislation, potential
legislation, and other political activities which would or could adversely
impact West Point as an educational institution and as a source of commissioned
officers for the US Army (and Armed Forces). If attuned to such activities,
I would be pleased to contact my Congressional Delegation and express my
views.
[1189] Erosion of the Honor Code
[1190] I am not aware of the current direction of USMA.
[1191] It seems we are giving up tradition, without a real payback.
Things such as uniforms, the presures (non-academic), recognition are all
major changes that I believe are not the best approach to develop officers
that can function under extreme pressure. My impression is that change
is being made more so that individual leaders can make major changes that
will get them remembered in history than what is best strategically for
the academy.
[1192] I am concerned that we should be doing more to help the public
in ways that can assist us carry out the mission of the AOG. No organization
that exclusively serves itself can ever achieve greatness. We need to be
very creative in defining a program that fills a valid need and also produces
support for WP.
[1193] I'm concerned about downsizing that I understand is happening.
I also think that a shorter commitment after graduation would be better
than the longer, partially unobserved, commitment.
[1194] Loss of respect for honor code, lowering of standards of behavior
[1195] I DON'T THINK GRADUATES IN RECENT YEARS SEE THEMSELVES AS
CAREER OFFICERS. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH MANY BARELY GET THROUGH THEIR COMMITMENT
AND THEN QUIT.
[1196] Not currently informed to make a judgement.
[1197] Although I'm not entirely apprised of relevant facts, I'm
concerned that the fundamentals of "Duty, Honor, Country" are being diluted
by other lesser values in response to public pressure resulting from problems
in the Army or at West Point, or both. I would appreciate information about
this topic or where to find such information.
[1198] From what little I can tell, USMA is becoming too liberal/politically
correct to continue in its long tradition of preparing men, and now women,
for a life's career in the service of our country.
[1199] 1.Women at the Academy 2.Too much focus on minority representation
[1200] Cadet discipline(community service vs. area tours) post-graduation
participation in AOG & Societies Bogus cost comparisons of USMA and
civilian universities in the media
[1201] I am aware of the continuing military "re-engineering" efforts
to contain costs and shape the force to everchanging missions, but I feel
that USMA has strayed from its primary mission: Provide the Army with core,
warrior professionals in its Regular Commission ranks! Though I am out
of the active service through the downsizing initiatives of the past 7
years, mine and my classmates' West Point military education put us well
ahead of our military comrades from the ROTC & OCS channels. Our training
programs, facilities and support positioned us for great success when we
arrived to our OBC posts. It was not until I started OBC at Ft. Rucker
that I realized how well trained I was compared to those officers from
ROTC/OCS.
[1202] See tenor of comments above. Have to make a concerted effort
to preserve the institution and its values.
[1203] I'm always concerned that too much tinkering with a good thing
can hurt it. Change is the only constant in life and I feel confident that
all grads understand the basic principles that make USMA special and will
strive to maintain them. As such, I am generally content with the direction
that West Point is heading.
[1204] - Current trend at USMA seems to make the academy resemble
the active army in terms of senior-subordinate relationships and behavior.
While this will assist graduates in making the early successful transition
from cadet to junior officer, the long term benifits gained through the
more raditional aspects of the forth class system may be lost. Making West
Point a direct reflection of the army places the academy at risk of losing
the unique individuality which created the great leaders of its past. I
am concerned the current direction of the academy, while clearly affected
by political preassure, may create an environment which is simply a more
expensive ROTC program. West Point should maintain the traditional aspects
of the forth class system and unique traditions which are aimed at developing
the 'long-term' leader, not just a technically and tactically prepared
lieutenant.
[1205] I am interested in how USMA is coping with the recent budget
cuts and studies that propose to eliminate the military academies because
of their prohibitive costs.
[1206] I've ventilated in the comment boxes above..if you are interested
please read those comments.
[1207] I regret the loss of regular army commissions. I do not support
females attending the Military Academy.
[1208] Too much civilianization of the Academy.
[1209] Having been on staff at USMA for the last three years (JAN
95 - DEC 97), I am very concerned with several of the changes that are
occurring: - Greatly increased emphasis on intercollegiate athletics at
the cost of other worthwhile cadet activities, e.g. Club-Squad sports and
extracurricular clubs. Stronger emphasis on intercollegiate sports by current
Supe vs. previous Supe means that more assets (financial resources, staff
assistance and support, cadet time, etc.) are going in that direction at
the expense of other activities that benefit both the professional and
personal development of cadets. I want Army teams to win too, but there
must be a balanced approach. USMA will never be able to compete with "super
schools" like Nebraska or Michigan State and should not be overly concerned
with trying. - Increased leaves/passes for all cadets and Cow (Second Class)
cars after Spring Leave means even less upperclass leadership/supervision
in the Corps and presence in and around West Point on the weekends. This
is resulting in further loss of camaraderie and identity (unit cohesion)
within the Corps. - Increased leaves/passes for all cadets and Cow (Second
Class) cars after Spring Leave means even less time spent on academics
during the week and especially on weekends. - Lack of Corps-wide cadet
room standards (Firsties essentially have apartment rooms now with electrical
appliances, rugs, furnature, etc.). Firsties are no longer modeling the
ideal for the underclass. - M16's vs. M14's for drill and ceremonies? I
am glad that the Commandant wants to make USMA more like the "real Army,"
but "real Army" soldiers do NOT keep M16's in their rooms. Will the cadet
barracks all have certified arms rooms (with JSIDS, etc.) in each company
area? The Old Guard uses M14's for drill and ceremonies, not M16's. Are
they changing to be more like the "real Army"? When will the Corps switch
from kaydet gray to green (like the "real Army")? - Work Tours for punishment
(instead of the traditional waste of cadet free time: Area Tours) is a
joke among cadets. While the post engineers (DHPW) and a few other activities
may, on rare occasion, get some useful assistance from cadet "slave labor"
on weekends, from what I have seen and heard, the new program is marginal
at best. BRING BACK THE AREA.
[1210] Continue to vigorously pursue Regular Army commissions for
graduates
[1211] I am concerned about the process of delaying RÅ commissions
to grads
[1212] The academic quality of the education received by cadets and
the quality of faculty members as compared to 10 years ago. The reduction
in cadet cohesion due to the elimination of mandatory dinner meals. The
recent trouncing suffered in the Army-Navy game.
[1213] A few years ago, it was brought to my attention that they
are now using locks on each cadet's door. If this is correct, then I have
a serious problem with the integrity of the Corps. Have the standards of
admission been changed?
[1214] I am concerned that the honor code be a priority I think the
life of a cadet should remain spartan to build character as it has in the
past
[1215] West Point is becoming too much like other schools. It has
always been more challenging, more difficult and something special. Sacrifices
are made for what is gained.
[1216] 1. I am very disturbed by full page ads in minority magazines
which state "Get a free education! Go to West Point." 2. It is my understanding
that the new mission statement has reduced emphasis on "a full career in
the U. S. Army."
[1217] Probably not too well informed for this one, but I am concerned
with some of the curriculum moves - I think it should focus on basics and
let the specialization come in graduate school. Need to educate future
military leaders NOT doctors. lawyers, politicians, etc. Think that liberalizing
Plebe Year is a weakening - the Corps has? Am not a big fan of big time
college athletics - compete at the level appropriate for a school its size.
Think there is merit in reducing the number of cadets to fit in with an
overall US military policy regarding how we people our officer corps.
[1218] I strongly agree with Mark B. Elfendal's letter to the AOG
in the Jan/Feb 98 edition of the Assembly (p.2). The West Point experience
is now too easy. It's not training our future leaders how to cope with
stress and pressure. I've spoken to many cadets and they agree with me,
West Point is too soft. I have tried to live my life by the tenets expressed
in Schofield's Definition of Discipline. I still know the word's by heart
as I always will. I'm afraid today's West Point has swung the pendulum
so far that the true meaning of Schofield will be lost.
[1219] I'm not sure I understand the rationale of substituting community
service work for area tours if the point of area tours was to waste your
time and serve as punishment. Helping someone else is not punishment.
[1220] USMA is becoming too collegiate and not emphasizing enough
the military aspects of the education.
[1221] Make use of the civilian resources in a larger scope than
just the academy--to help each other, help build a better military, and
a better world. The abilities of graduates are already tested and their
loyalty is already tried. There must be ways those skills and their vast
talents can be used to help the various agencies of our nation.
[1222] 1. Trend toward more civilian instructors. 2. The taking of
the administration of the Honor Code from the Corps.
[1223] Not sure what some ofthe latest changes at USMA have been
[1224] Reduction of academic load Decline of the strict fourth class
system Removal of absence cards from rooms Locks on doors Denial of RA
commissions to USMA graduates Reduction of APFT standard to normal army
standard 50/50 military/civilian professor mix Number of recent graduates
who left service before completing the 5 year commitment
[1225] NY Times Sun Supplement showed slouchy plebes wearing watches
& gazing about, dining tables a discusting mess, most wearing eye glasses.
Article said cadets used expletives,plebes had gatherings to shine boots
and talk,phoned for pizzas and phoned home or to girl friends. Does the
Army in the field phone for pizzas and have coke machines in their tents?
Allowing Cadets to swear probably bothers me the most.
[1226] over emphasis on corps squad sports lack of retention of graduates
on active duty lack of knowledge about West Point among young people
[1227] Since the Goodpaster days, I have been skeptical that our
focus is on guarding the traditions of the Militarty Academy, training
military officers, keeping our best in uniform and helping them succeed.
[1228] Predisposition that USMA needs to promote a career in the
Army versus a lifetime of service to the nation.
[1229] The "softening" of the leadership program. I do not mean the
normal "Corps has..." talk. The kinder and gentler Corps---for example,
where a voice cannot be raised at a Plebe---does not fully teach the Plebe
how to react to pressure, nor does it teach the upperclassmen how to use
pressure when needed (envision a gentle "Follow me" or "Take that hill")
to gain attention. We need to follow the Marines' lead -- less political
correctness and more focus on what leads to the best warriors. You will
have a prouder, more loyal graduate when you make the program tougher.
[1230] 4th class system Honor system Academic preparation for post
military careers
[1231] -Bring back area tours! -Keep plebe year stressful! -Keep
objectivity in class ranking- don't weigh subjective areas too highly
[1232] B. S. & L. style of touchy feely officer prep is out of
control.
[1233] I'm concerned with the fact that graduates are having a terrible
time with field grade promotions given the scaled back scope of the military.
I'm concerned with the lack of regular commissions for graduates.
[1234] It's not a college. As an instructor in DPE, I'm amazed by
the amount of lackadasical attitudes displayed by cadets in regards to
physical activity. Happy to pass rather than excel.
[1235] They all concern me. What concerns me most is the honor code
and how it is being implemented. Second, I'm concerned with our admissions
process.
[1236]
[1237] I think that West Point needs to address the reality that
not all graduates are going to serve 20 years in the Army. They should
support those graduates who elect to or are forced to seek employment outside
of the Army after completion of their committment. This should be above
and beyond the Army's outprocessing program. I don't think that most West
Point graduates fall into the same category as the general Army population
that these services cover. I believe that some of the elite civilian institutions
have stronger networks than the West Point network, and I think that West
Point and the other academies should be the strongest. Unfortunately, West
Point is blinded by the belief that they are creating career military leaders,
when that is just not true. The agreement is for 5 years, not 20. With
that in mind, we need to have an accessible graduate network that is the
envy of the rest of the world. That will strengthen the academy and increase
the value of becoming a graduate. I remember as a cadet how it was taboo
to talk about serving your commitment and moving on to another career.
In our professional discussions, cadets exclaimed the virtues of a military
career. You can imagine my surprise when the Captains list came out 4 years
after graduation and I was on the list with just a hand full of my classmates,
not because they were not selected, but because they had already departed
the service or had submitted their paperwork to resign. We need a partnership
between AOG and the academy to acknowledge this fact of life and strengthen
the network of graduates to create access to and provide information about
the high quality civilian careers that our graduates are taking part in
and willing to advise other graduates about.
[1238] I have heard of some disturbing attempts to reduce or minimize
the long-held traditions of duty to country, honor, and selfless dedication
by outside sources... how can graduates help?
[1239] I think that the Academy is conforming too much to the "kinder,
gentler Army" and "softening" up the Plebe year too much. The political
correctness is negatively affecting the Academy. As a Firstie last year,
I noticed the Plebes were becoming less and less disciplined as my cadet
career progressed. The upperclass was getting their authority undermined
by overzealous TAC officers. Give the First Class cadets more control and
more responsibility and, for lack of a better phrase, KEEP THE TACS AWAY.
[1240] Lack of commitment to the military by permanent faculty; lack
of emphasis on retention in the army after graduation; lack of warrior/soldier
superintendents;over-emphasis on academics; grads being allowed to go directly
into medical school; existence of academic majors & accredidation;
[1241] West Point seems to be heading for Honor controlled by the
Administration, locks on the doors, rugs, refrigerators, reserve commissions
and other weaknesses.
[1242] My ultimate concern is that USMA is earning its right to remain
a nationally supported institution. All USMA policies should have in mind,
"How is West Point above and beyond what ROTC cadets get?" and "How is
USMA truly contributing to provide the nation with strong leaders." I believe
that not enough is done to let the public at large know about the sacrifices
and leaders of character that come from the Academy. Yet, if we aren't
necessarily producing those strong leaders, then of course we can't tought
that.
[1243] Its emphasis on minority recruitment is quite frightening.
I thought USMA was different than civilian institutions and didn't succumb
to popular notions of PC and affirmative action. I'd like to see USMA recruit
highly qualified people who want more than ever to be West Pointers, regardless
of race. Let's get good people back in the Corps!
[1244] USMA graduates should go into the combat arms and selected
combat support arms. I fully understand that their are limitations for
female graduates. However, even female graduates should and they be detailed
primarily into the combat support arms. Graduates with medical problems
should be the only ones exempted. Also, all graduates must serve a minimum
of five years on active duty. The option of transfering to the Reserve
component should not be a USMA option.
[1245] As stated above I believe the Academy is trying to be all
things to all people in the interest of being second to none. We are trying
to accomplish too much which potentially leads to a drop in quality in
mission accomplishment.
[1246] The focus on academic credentials to the detriment of military
goals
[1247] Based on Supt's presentation at last reunion, concerned about
state of the facilities.
[1248] What direction is it heading?
[1249] Concerned about the perceived de-emphasis of the importance
of West Point and its role in the development of Army officers by the American
public and government officials.
[1250] --not entirely happy with the emphasis being placed on raising
money for better athletic equipment and programs ... athletics plays but
only a small part in a cadet's education and I believe we do USMA a diservice
by trying to attract young men and women to USMA for the athletic programs
alone ... emphasis must be placed on bettering academic facilities as well.
[1251] Although it is visceral, I get the feeling that the Academy
is more and more like any other college each day and putting less emphasis
on the military aspects of preparing cadets.
[1252] Male-Female relationship at USMA
[1253] I think that there have been too many changes too quickly
in the system to build toughness (mental, moral and physical) in the Cadet,
starting with the dramatic changes in the Plebe system that took place
about 10 years ago. I am aware that this is a very different world today
than it was when I was a Cadet. However, I am convinced that mental toughness
and strength of character are as important today as they ever were, and
maybe even more so.
[1254] 1. No RA commissions for graduates 2. I continue to hear of
efforts by Congress to close the institution. This greatly concerns me.
Do not really have much information on this.
[1255] I hope that West Point is putting more focus on fostering
the "Warrior Spirit" and producing Warriors for Today's Army. As an Infantry
Officer and former Company Commander/Ranger Instructor and S3 of the "Benning
Phase" of U.S. Army Ranger School (1991-1995), I was alarmed at and surprised
by the high failure rate of West Point Graduates (primarily 2LT Infantry
Officers). Land Navigation skills were the greatest weakness followed by
poor basic tactical skills and poor attitudes. This was very disheartening
and somewhat embarrassing to this graduate. I hope the "M" in USMA is alive
and well.
[1256] I'm sure there are some but I'd need more time to write these
down. Overall, I am satisfied with WP's current direction.
[1257] I wonder at times if the liberalization of life at West Point
in comparison with earlier years is in the best interest of the Academy,
but not being on active duty or in the reserves any longer I am not in
a position to evaluate this issue
[1258] Change of commission status from RA to Reserve.
[1259] 1. As stated above, the mission and purpose statements need
radical revision. 2. Summer training needs to be reoriented toward the
military--NO MORE WALKS AROUND WALDEN POND DISCUSSING THE MEANING OF THOREAU.
Summer training, with very few exceptions (and only in exceptional cases)
must be oriented toward the military.
[1260] Should the institution be moving to more financial independence?
[1261] Not happy about recruiting athletes with mention of careers
other military service.
[1262] (XXXXXX) was a fraud as an officer, and a fraud as
the head of the Dept of Phys Ed. Other officer from the Dept were kept
away when he did his PT test becuase he could not do push ups. That is
a poor standard for someone who determined which cadets were and were not
physically fit enough to graduate.
[1263] Honor Code does not seem to be what t was. This is vry concerning
to me.
[1264] I think that the Graduates not getting Regular Army Status
is a foot in the door to eliminate the Academy and when I was a "new" officer,
the Regular Army Commission felt, to me, that it acknowledged the "extra"
training that I received in my 4 yrs. at the Academy versus ROTC training..
[1265] The development of cadets militarily. They will soon be serving
with me.
[1266] LTG Christman seems to be focusing too much on the football
program. I never supported the move to the Conference USA.
[1267] We seem to be focusing more on preparing the cadets to serve
society and the country at large whereas we should place greater (not exclusive)
emphasis on preparation for and encouragement of an Army career.
[1268] The only reason to have a West Point is to produce officers
for a career of service in the Regular Army. If this is not what the Academy
is about, we should close it down. Sometimes, it seems from the published
articles and interviews that some people forget that USMA is in the business
of training warriors.
[1269] 1. USAR commissions for graduates. 2. Early out programs for
professional quality athletes. 3. Quality of facilities, including athletic
facilities, available at USMA.
[1270] Current information re: policies/issues not comprehensive
enough
[1271] Apparently widening gap between USMA values and values of
society at large. (i.e. Army CoS Initiative to institute Army wide value
training, Kelly Flynn, etc). This is a Societal Problem, but is a problem
for USMA none the less
[1272] nbot sure the academy is not supinely following what is poloically
correct rather than what workd to defend the united states of america.
[1273] Fight to retain the Regular Army commission for all graduates
of USMA
[1274] Increase the number of civilian professors. This coupled with
non-automatic active duty commissions leads us on a path to be no different
than a good ROTC program at any other university. The less that separates
us from other institutes of higher learning, make us more vunerable to
extinction.
[1275] I am concerned that USMA may no longer be fostering a "warrior"
ethos and properly developing future combat leaders. It seems that USMA
is too concerned with becoming an "Ivy League" university.
[1276] Having had the privilage to speak to the Junior class of cadets
during intercession for two years I found a growing perception that academic
achievement is viewed as more important than preparing cadets to be leaders
in the US Army. I'm not to sure the intercession concept is the best way
to go. Without sounding to much like an old grad, having military training
stressed throughout the year seems to be a better approach to remind the
cadets what is important. Additionally, the deemphasis of combat arms seems
to be misleading our cadets. Although we do need the USMA graduates in
all branches of service, the active duty force I leave seems to highlight
that it is combat arms branchs that is serving in the majority of command
positions. I understand PC but what our Army needs is combat leaders and
personally I think West Point should spearhead this area. Talking to many
cadets and to many recent graduates, including those who went combat arms,
their emphasis appears to be on getting a masters degress and/or some kind
of skill they can translate into civilian life. I hope I'm off base on
this but that's the perception I have right now. We need to recruit more
warfighters.
[1277] AOG should be more open about its fund raising and project
selection for expenditure of funds in my humble opinion.
[1278] While I think that USMA is generally headed in the right direction,
and not whip-lashing itself in response to changes in what is the popular
fad of the day, I would hope that we not lose sight of that portion of
the mission of the academy, that is, developing leaders of character. I
would further emphasize the combat arms focus that USMA has always had,
since nowhere else can this leadership be adequately developed.
[1279] Don't think women should be at West Point but realize that
USMA has no choice in the matter.
[1280] USMA should try to get the candidates most motivated for an
Army career and teach them the best it can instead of getting the "best"
overall candidates and then trying to motivate them for an Army career.
No wonder so many quit as soon as they can!
[1281] Graduate LTs that are in the long haul i.e. retirement at
20/30yrs, interested in becoming GOs.Reinforce the idea that this is a
profession not just another job. Push selfless service!Instill in young
grads that they should be concerned about the Army first then themselves.
[1282] I see the change from developing leaders of character for
the Nation, back to an increasing emphasis on developing leaders for the
Army when the Army is shrinking and there is no assurance that many in
each class will even have the opportunity for making a successful career
in the Army, that is, making promotion to LTC. Just a thought.
[1283] We're rolling over and playing dead on the issue of Regular
Commissioning for graduates. We appear to be still frightened by the shadow
of Sam Nunn's staffers who rammed this piece of junque through the Congress.
Either we believe that the mission of the Academy is to turn out Regular
Officers, or we don't. If we don't, let's close down the place and revert
to University ROTCs.
[1284] It appears that West Point has become much more liberal (politically
correct) in recent years, and as a result the graduates are not being schooled
in many of the basic principles and concepts that has produced the leaders
it has in the past. Cadets are at West point to learn the art of warfare
and should focus on that idea not a multitude of majors and minor subject
areas that take away from becoming combat leaders. - Did USMA appear to
stray off azimuth after World War I (1920's and 1930's) or following the
Korean War (late 1950's) as much as it seems in the 1990's?
[1285] Since I graduated, I think there has been too much emphasis
on changing West Point to make it "easier" or "more tolerable," so that
graduates "fit in" more with the Army. West Point now seems to be less
unique and challenging an experience for graduates to hold on to.
[1286] women in combat lowering of standards curriculum same as any
other college/university honor system diluted no regular army commission
Academy too large for the Army it serves
[1287] West Point should not lose its focus on producing combat leaders
who have the immense responsibility of fighting future wars alongside the
sons and daughters of the American people and winning. The bottom line
is combat readiness. The profession of arms is a noble profession but its
reputation has been marred in recent events from the SMA to Aberdeen. In
light of these events, West Point graduates continue to upkeep a proud
tradition. Grads should always ensure we continue to focus on the bottom
line.
[1288] Cadet development focused more on academics than leadership.
Can write volumes on this, but need more space.
[1289] 1 Losing the RA commissions. 2 Reduction in amount of graduates
going into combat arms
[1290] I am concerned with what appears to be a lessening of emphasis
on military discipline and training. New graduates do not seem to have
the intent of making the military a lifetime career.
[1291] I think the proposed new mission statement is ridiculous.
Involving grads in the process has produced a convoluted hodge podge of
complexity, and in trying to please every Joe a mockery has been made of
the KISS principle. What exactly was the problem with the original 12 word
sentence?
[1292] I support the idea of including "people skills" in a cadet's
training, but feel the move to "political correctness" has been too great.
[1293] Deviation from mission of providing combat leaders Role of
women in Army leadership positions Lack of RA commissions Relaxation of
4th class system
[1294] Change in mission of USMA. See my comments earlier in Survey.
De-militarization of USMA. Granting tenure to civilian professors. Reduction
of standards to accommodate female cadets.
[1295] I am concerned about the lack of commitment to service I have
seen in recent graduates.
[1296] USMA graduates and DMG or other similar personnel should be
offered regular commisions earlier than 12 years or Field Grade!!!
[1297] Policies and programs which guide the policies for West Point
should be more directly impacted by graduates. Mailings and other forms
military franking privileges, perhaps, could be used to provide graduates
with this information. The most difficult part of policies and issues is
discovering they are current issues.
[1298] I am concerned that West Point, like the United States Army
in general, has expanded its missions to the point that it will be impossible
to accomplish any one of them well.
[1299] I'm concerned about the apparent drift towards USMA being
just one of the bunch as far as source of commisioning for the Active Army.
I am geeting the sense that Academy officialdom is taking a rather fatalistic
"What will be, will be" attitude toward the process. I don't get the sense
that anyone is going down to the Puzzle Palace and rattling the cage, it
sounds to someone out in the hustings as if beautifully crafted position
papers have been prepared to state the case for USMA and whoever is doing
the papers is graded on craftsmanship not results.
[1300] 1. I am concerned that USMA appears to be moving away from
training for winning battles in defense of our country, away from training
people who can be expected to lead in war. 2. I am concerned that USMA
cadets may not now be trained to the high physical standards that are required
on a battlefield.
[1301] QUALIFY/INTREGITY OF GRADUATES SEEMS TO BE SLIPPING...NEED
TO MAINTAIN HIGHEST STANDARDS WITHOUT COMPROMISE.....RELAXING OF SYSTEM
HAS COMPROMISED QUALITY OF GRADUATE...ESPECIALLY ONCE GRADS ARE NO LONGER
IN THE MILITARY, THERE INTEGRITY WILL BE TESTED EVEN MORE AND THUS NEED
TO BE EVEN STRONGER AND POSSESS THE SELF DISCIPLINE TO DO THE RIGHT THING....
[1302] Do not use proceeds from fund raising to cover items that
should be covered by appropriated funds.
[1303] Approaching its 200th anniversary, I feel that West Point
has been around for a very long time and that the changes which have taken
place over the years have been incremental, and I am not particularly worried
that the good old rockbound highland home is going to somehow drop off
the face of the earth, as some others appear to be.
[1304] I support the changes being suggested by the current Superintendent.
The focus of the mission should be narrowed.
[1305] 1. We don't need a new mission statement. 2. See my remarks
on "politically correct" British Science.
[1306] The civilianization of the faculty and the way they interact
with the cadets!
[1307] The general lack of awareness or appreciation of grads by
congress, the executive branch and the public in general.
[1308] More emphasis on professional development, acting like mature
individuals, respect for the rank structure. I noticed some cadets acting
childishly while on CTLT, with little respect and plenty of attitude for
the lieutenants mentoring them. It was not widespread, but there was enough
to make me concerned.
[1309] Concerned about the RA commissioning of future grads
[1310] Direction is good, however, I've seen an increasing amount
of Cadets looking only for free school and view the military negatively.
Many Cadets don't want the obligation. Why come if you don't want to be
a soldier for 4-30 years.
[1311] 1. I am very concerned that each of the last 3 Com's have
systematically eliminated the 4th class system in favor of a system which
is supposed to be more professional. The 4th class system has never been
about developing the leadership of the upperclasses. My 4th class systems
manual never mentioned the development of the upperclasses in its purpose.
It was always understood that true leadership was learned and practiced
while leading peers and other upperclassmen. 2. As a football season ticket
holder, I had the opportunity to discuss the plebe year with over a dozen
4th classmen/women. They said Beast was a "joke", they were disappointed
in the experience that they have had because it has been babying them.
Is this what we want? Why not just make the Academy a large ROTC campus?
3. What is the next step in degrading the value of the West Point experience?
4. No Area Tours????
[1312] There are several things that I would like to mention here,
but I do not feel that this is the forum for such comment.
[1313] I'm not sufficiently aware of current issues and policies
to comment. My gut feel is I would have many concerns if I did know what's
going on. How does one do that without visiting, observing and talking
with current cadets, staff and faculty?
[1314] 1. Development of cocky officers lacking respect.
[1315] Failure to fight for regular Army commissions
[1316] lack of focus on combat arms-we should not try to sugar-coat
that our purpose is to win wars
[1317] Academy survival.
[1318] I think that USMA is striving too hard to get the "Ivy League"
type students...concerned too much with high grades, SAT scores, etc.,
rather than well rounded, physically fit, intelligent students. The focus
of USMA is to develop leaders/future officers (who will remain in the Army)
not to develop superior intellectual students.
[1319] I understand class academic ranking has been abandoned. I
strongly disagree with this policy and urge that academic ranking be resumed.
[1320] Should be more concern and communication about the academic
curriculum, changes, etc., and less about the athletic program. Granted
that the athletic program may seem to be of great interest to many grads,
but when we talk with young people about the Academy, the important subject
is academics, and a military career, not athletics.
[1321] As usual, you folks have no fuckin' clue as to what is happening
in your own backyard. You got a great country, assholes. Remember yer goddam
mission statement? Ring a bell, CROT? I humbly await at your bullshit response.
You're steadiliy watching you're own "careers" as good men and women die.
Hope it's on your conscionce. (I'll try to spell it right next time.)
[1322] very concerned about changes in the leader development/4rth
class system since not all 18 year old know what it is that is best for
them less focus should be made of maintaining a high retention rate-the
focus must be leadership ability, and academic/athletic aptitude. The Academy
must filter out incapable leaders
[1323] -use of affirmative action
[1324] I am concerned about the elimination of the regular army commission
as well as the lengthening of the obligation at graduation.
[1325] I cannot say that it is a "policy," but I am concerned that
USMA seems more and more "academic" and less and less "military."
[1326] I am concerned that not all graduates are going on active
duty after graduation. I understand that this is a reflection of the down-sizing
of the military but, maybe the Corps should be down sized also. Cut the
Corp back to two regiments but put everyone on active duty at least for
a few years.
[1327] I did't know he was changing the mission statement. That concerns
me.
[1328] The Army's policy of letting graduates leave active service
prior to fulfillment of the inital obligation is unwise--how do you justify
the expense/mission of the academy if your (Army's)actions deny the purpose?
[1329] As an academic instructor at USMA, and graduate, I have noticed
a definite "shift" from academic concerns during the academic year, to
more military concerns. The academic program is good, and has been validated
by several accredidation programs, but cadets are more concerned with taking
the "easier" academic way out, and not with getting a quality education
that will help them as the future leaders of the Army, but also as future
leaders of the nation.
[1330] From a recent article in Assembly, it sure appears that things
have gotten soft. Where's the Beast in Beast Barracks?
[1331] Moves to eliminate the academies in the Congress
[1332] What I'd call "pandering" to the current political administration;
witness the Assembly Magazine cover photo of Jack Vessey accepting the
Thayer Award-- was it simply impossible to photograph him without Sara
Lister in the picture? The selection of Thayer awardees troubles me. They
positively absolutely do not reflect the views of the entire AOG-- so who's
political influence is being brought to bear here? Or, more pandering?
Perhaps it's all about West Point trying to mirror society-- wrong-wrong-wrong!
Reading about the "new" New Cadet Barracks was indeed troubling, to me
and virtually everyone I talked to. If intent here is to cozy up to the
critics of the West Point experience and "political correctness", the academy
is surely sending a signal that it's doing its best...
[1333] Fund raising and athletic facitlity support
[1334] Loss of focus on service as officer (Mission Statement) Replacement
of 4th Class System
[1335] 1. The mission statement of USMA clearly is not sufficiently
focused on a lifetime career in the United States Army. 2. The elimination
of the Regular Commission for USMA (and ROTC DMG) cadets is an insult to
the Army at large and will undermine both recruitment and performance in
the future.
[1336] While not totally enchanted by all I see at WP, I also feel
it's none of my business. I would no more tell the Supe how to run WP than
I would tell my kids how to raise my grandkids. I trust both the Supe and
my kids to do the right thing.
[1337] 1. Too much emphasis on "big time" sports. I fear this will
get worse as we enter Conference USA. 2. Too much emphasis on money. 3.
Decreased quality of academics.
[1338] Over time, the bonds between classmates has been diminished.
By this, I mean there are a significant number of recent graduates (YG90+)
who feel their time here was a poor experience. There is no desire to maintain
relations with any other than a very small group of personally known cadets.
There is no sense of "classmate" with those they did not personally know
as cadets.
[1339] Ineffective Cadet Counseling Services
[1340] I have no major areas of concern because I am not well enough
informed. That is quite different from say that I am "happy."
[1341] No. The dynamics of this institution are such that unless
I am aware of all dynamics I can not give an educated response. There is
too much rumor and hear say that causes static on what is really going
on. I am sure the Supe has the academy's best interest in mind.
[1342] I think the policies currently being persued at West Point
have watered down the mission of West Point. Namely to produce Officers
for a full career in the Armed Forces, not as a means to other careers
in civil life. A graduate should at least look forward to a lifetime career
upon graduation. I don't think this is happining today.
[1343] Too much focus on academics. This path will ultimately lead
to the abolotioment of USMA since its crtics will, and rightfully so, argue
that the same can be accomplished at a regualr college.
[1344] 1. concerned about the changes in cadet punishment. 2. concerned
about the drastic changes in the development of discipline (especially
in the 4th class). 3. concerned about the optional athletic event attendance.
4. concerned about Department Head selections 5. concerned about Cadet
Basic Training changes
[1345] Return RA commissioning upon graduation.
[1346] It is trying to become an ROTC program!
[1347] The "Corps Has." So what?
[1348] leadership programs at USMA not focused on real leadership
issues - multiculturalism, role of women, ethical practices. need training
focus on business and financial issues - leaders can not lead without knowing
bottom lines in cost, safety, results attained, cost ratios, etc.
[1349] Disagree with other than Active duty commissioning.
[1350] With budget tightening and reduction of Armed Forces, can
the Academies survive or will the US go to some version of the British
systems like Sandhurst?
[1351] unable to determine if the Corp is still dropping standards
as the Army has done for Women. Women have their own and superior strengths
which should not be equated by dropping standards for all. Suspect there
is a bit of "the Corp has" but stories from grads indicates that that is
not all B.S.
[1352] In this day of continued budget crunching, WP needs to be
prepared to explain the "value" of the military academy versus ROTC, etc.
The costs are not comparable...and the "return on investment" has not been
adequately captured.
[1353] One of my primary points of contention with USMA is the perceived
failure to enforce the service obligation for graduates. Nothing about
WP makes me madder than seeing a graduate get out in three years. I realize
this is out of the hands of the USMA leadership, and is a factor created
by the needs of the Army, but these individuals should be held accountable
for their debts. If they get out early, then they should pay for their
unserved time; otherwise, USMA becomes very cost ineffective and other
commissioning sources are a better alternative.
[1354] Relevant curriculum Always too heavy in math and engineering
Would like to see more of a shift to military history, social sciences
and languages
[1355] Although I'm not very familiar with the issue, I'm concerned
about the increasing representation of civilians within the USMA Faculty.
[1356] Not concerned, but pleased. The recent major article in the
New York Times magazine section should be reprinted for a larger audience.
Extremely well done.
[1357] - the fact that USMA grads do not get RA commissions any more
is a disturbing development. Although that decision was taken by Congress,
it opens the door for undermining the very purpose of having service academies.
The Supe should work hard to ensure that USMA stays a vital source of army
and civilian leaders for the country.
[1358] I am concerned the air of "political correctness" is getting
in the way of the mission of the Academy.
[1359] Totally disagree with the Reserve Officer commission. I feel
that the administration and AOG did not work hard enough to maintain RA
status for USMA grads.
[1360] I'm mildly concerned that graduating Cadets have been not
been stressed to the point that they understand the physical and mental
challenges of providing leadership in very demanding circumstances.
[1361] Unsure at this time. Have some concerns about freedoms (Highland
Falls priveleges, etc.) enjoyed by cadets. Don't want USMA changed into
another A&M wherein the military aspects are a sidelight.
[1362] 1. I support efforts to reduce drinking by members of the
Corps -- particularly in and around West Point. More should be done but
in a way that it is supported by the Corps of Cadets. I sense alcohol abuse
is a major issue.
[1363] I'm not familiar enough with policies and issues to answer
this question.
[1364] I have serious concern that the Academy is trying to be all
things for all missions. Lat's get the focus back on the fundamental principles
that have made West Point what it is. Not a university, not a Peace Corps
training school; a place that turns out military leaders.
[1365] Generally happy with the direction of USMA, but I feel the
AOG must be even more vigilant in its protection of our institution and
yet more informative about the threats to its continued existence (i.e.
tuition bills in Congress, making one Academy for all services, declining
appropriations, etc.), as well as telling grads what they can do to help.
[1366] I can't believe they did away with walking the area. I heard
that it wastes time. As a cadet I thought that was exactly the reason for
walking the area. Wasting time was a punishment!
[1367] Gradual elimination of 4th class system!
[1368] Erosion of the mission to provide the Army with combat leaders.
[1369] As I have watched the evolution of West Point , there has
been a shift from "USMa" to USmA." The former is the historical basis for
the establishment and existance of the institutuion. Return the "Military"
to USMA and let America know about this shift in emphasis.
[1370] Loss of focus on training combat leaders
[1371] See comments above. The academy and the Superintendent need
to face the fact that graduates are either going to make a career in the
Army or they are not. USMA is good at supporting grads who are Army officers.
USMA is miserable, laughable at supporting graduates who are not (and there
are more of them than Army officers). The academy could probably meet its
financial goals and wildly exceed them if it stopped ignoring and bastardizing
civilian graduates.
[1372] Not informed of current direction.
[1373] Movement away from a stronger engineering curriculum (that
occurred several years ago).
[1374] With the downsizing of the US Army, I believe West Point needs
to re-examine the Regular Army only mentality. Although a lot of this is
dictated by Congress, an examination of the 1800's should be undertaken.
Perhaps some of the graduating classes should go into the reserve components
after an intial tour.
[1375] I am concerned that we are trying to "be better than every
other university at what they are doing" rather than "being better than
every other university by what WE are doing". Let's not try to be like
them; let's just work on being the premier MILITARY leadership institution.
Sometimes I think that we've lost the focus on that by trying to be everything
to everyone and by producing "model citizens" rather than military leaders
honed to a razor's edge.
[1376] Too complicated a question to answer in this survey
[1377] 1. Continuing "civilianization" of the institution. 2. Perceived
lessening of discipline in the efforts toward liberalization. 3. Stronger
efforts in the public and government forums to promote the academy and
its ideals/mission/importance/record of service.
[1378] Lack of RA Commissions
[1379] While academics are important to USMA graduates, I still believe
that the primary purpose of USMA is to produce professional officers oriented
on a full career. The emphasis during the four years should be on that
goal at least equally with obtaining a degree. Sometimes, it seems that
service to our country is deemphasized in favor of a more "academic" environment.
USMA graduates are more known for their leadership and professionalism
than they are for their education and scholarship.
[1380] I am very concerned about the infrastructure of USMA and funding
to maintain and improve the infrastructure.
[1381] Caving in to pressures for non-traditional funding.
[1382] I question the caliber of the cadre in the Tactical Department.
My impression is that high-caliber officers avoid this assignment as undesirable.
Cadets do not get the benefit of the tutaledge of the Army's best. I am
also disturbed by the reduction in the the role of the Corps in the honor
system. It appears to me that the officers at the Academy rather than the
cadets, run the honor system. I want higher cadet involvement and I would
rather see the officers at the Academy working to promote cadet devotion
to the ideals of the honor system.
[1383] I perceive a lack of emphasis on military commitment in recruiting,
and fear this is part of the reason retention of graduates on active duty
is a problem. Although I resigned after just 4 years on active duty, I
entered USMA (and graduated) with an open mind toward serving longer. My
experience, however, has been that many graduates do not do this. And now
that I assist with recruiting, I see that many applicants do not appreciate
the devotion to MILITARY duty that is required. Every graduate won't spend
20 years in uniform, but people shouldn't be looking forward to resignation
before they even complete plebe year. This should be addressed.
[1384] 1. Focus on Military career. 2. Academic curriculum that doesn't
undermine professional development.
[1385] There are many graduates who have extremely racist views.
The leaders that USMA puts out should be setting the example in racial
harmony in this nation. It is my opinion that this is not happening as
well as it could/should. The Academy might not be able to "fix" this problem,
but it would be worth a try.
[1386] On several visits to USMA in the past two years I have observed
what I consider to be lower standards in evidence conserning cadet dress
in public. The most glaring, in my opinion, occurred at last year's Yale
game. It does not appear to me to be necessary for cadets to lounge in
gym clothing, vicinity of the barracks on Thayer Road, on a football weekend
with many visitors about. The argument for West Point, is among other things,
its unique ability to to instill a special sense of mission and purpose.
It is a 24 hr a day committment. Society does not place as high a value
on this committment. These young future officers need to internalize early
what that committment means. While a small thing, this behavior seems to
be more in keeping with the scene in front of a fraternity house than what
one would expect at the United States Military Academy. I think we need
to guard against the possibility that the cadets perceive that being an
officer is a 9-5, 5-day a week job. I hope this was an isolated case.
[1387] USMA has lost its focus as a "military" academy.
[1388] Think too much "touchy/feely" psychology has replaced leadership
training. The two are not the same. When you tell a soldier to do a mission
where he may be killed, it normally has to be top down, not "touchy/feely".
[1389] West Point like the rest of America is so concerned about
being politically correct that I think we have lost focus of the "harder
right". I sat next to a current company commander departing for Christmas
break and we chatted for 3 hours. He told me that in his opinion West Point
is too easy. The leadership appears to be overly concerned about PC eventhough
the cadets would rather have the experience be more demanding. He confided
that the "Consideration of Others" was a joke among the cadets. This cadet
was not a rebel but rather in a Firstie leadership (Captain) position.
If the cadets feel like this then the academy leadership is missing something.
[1390] I am a little concerned with the great emphasis being put
on fund raising for athletic facilities that seems to be overshadowing
all other potential areas of concern such as ensuring academics and PT
programs support the development of Army officers, training on the importance
of ethical behavior as Army officers, and ensuring racial and gender representation
and equal treatment.
[1391] I'm concerned about the continued move to make USMA more like
other schools. The discipline instilled by the work/study environment and
recreational restrictions is what helped graduates develop the sense of
self-reliance and drive that set them apart. I think cadets are losing
that distinctiveness.
[1392] As I finished my MSME at Georgia Tech and as I have worked
on my PhD at the University of Florida, I have had the opportunity to winess
first-hand excellent instuction in Math/Sciences and two completely different
techniques/environments/ideologies for imparting knowledge to engineering
students. Both of these experiences have made my academic experience at
West Point look weak at best. Consequently, my concern for USMA is the
caliber of education offered to cadets and the realistic opportunity the
institution provides cadets to learn things of an academic nature. Even
keeping in mind that USMA's main purpose is to create officers, I still
believe there is room for improvement in the area of academics and that
more emphasis should be placed there.
[1393] Quit graduating inferior officers. When we have female officers
crying foul in order to breast feed, there is something inherently wrong
with the system that has evolved. When officers are being let out before
there commitments are complete, I can't blame the taxpayers for wanting
to shut the place down.
[1394] Become TOO easy see recent letter in Assembly
[1395] LOSS OF FOCUS ON THE ARMY, CIVILIANIZATION OF WEST POINT.
[1396] * Need to foster/maintain warrior spirit * Less concern with
political correctness
[1397] The move to make USMA just another good University rather
than a Military Academy whose primary goal is to train individuals to be
committed officers in the Army- Let's not forget this goal(while still
providing a quality college education). Looking at the branch selections
in the last Assembly disturbs me as I feel all graduates should go into
a combat arms or combat support arms initially and then can select other
branches after two or three years.
[1398] As I commented earlier, under AOG, attempt to return USMA
to an all-male institution and establish a separate school for Women who
would NOT (repeat "NOT") be commissioned into any combat arm.
[1399] De-emphasis of academics / declining academic standards
[1400] Proper levels of funding for USMA to maintain the quality
education and leadership preparation
[1401] I have some concerns that too much emphasis is being placed
on academics to the detriment of other areas. Being an Army officer is
more than being a smart guy. Being an educted person is important but being
well round is more important.
[1402] 1. Concerned about the requirement to await until attaining
the grade of 03 before being elegible for Regular Army. 2Also concerned
that 4th classmen have had their Plebe year shortened 3. Reports that the
Honor System is being "diluted"
[1403] Although it it a congressional issue more than an USMA/AOG
issue, I am concerned that the burden for financing is/has shifted from
the government to the graduates for many of the projects which help USMA
maintain its position in terms of facilities, academic programs and athletic
programs.
[1404] It appears to me that the fourth class system is dead. This
is awful!
[1405] - Regular Army Commissions no longer being offered - Political
Correctness seems to be creeping in at the Academy, (Ex. see Amy Efaw's
Article in Assembly; I do not see these changes as for the better)
[1406] West Point should be providing the Army with Regular Army
Combat Arms Officers. I don't understand why anyone would go to West Point
if there is no distinction between a ROTC graduate and a West Point graduate.
[1407] I am concerned about the funding for USMA and the future of
USMA given the current military cutbacks and the political situation in
the US.
[1408] Only as it concerns the continued existance of the USMA
[1409] Increasing West Point's and the AOGs commitment to supporting
the Army - neither organization appears to consider the needs of the Army
as its primary consideration
[1410] West Point has succumbed too far to the political correctness
syndrome.
[1411] Not enough info to answer this. Out of touch with what particular
direction West Point is currently moving in.
[1412] I'm very concerned about recent studies showing military personnel
becoming more allied with politically conservative causes. The military,
at least when I was a cadet, was supposed to be an apolitical organization.
Anything the academy might be doing to change that would be of concern
to me.
[1413] While not advocating return to the scream and shout methods
of the past, I have no good feeling that the stress level is high enough
to weed out the folks that will not perform when the stress is leading
troops in combat.
[1414] Many concerns that WP is not preparing graduates to serve
the country into the next century in the existing social and professional
environment.
[1415] I am very concerned that USMA may be losing what I would regard
as its essential focus: providing trained, dedicated young officers who
are at the cutting edge of the Army in terms of professionalism and commitment
to a military career, in short, the "true believers" who can provide inspired
leadership at every level of the Army.
[1416] Relaxing of 4th class system
[1417] There seems to be too much of an emphasis on academics and
preparation for graduate school in the future. Education is important,
but the focus of the Academy is on developing leaders of character for
the Nation, not philosophers or academically astute sophists...have people
go to Harvard or Yale if they want that.
[1418] 1. Am concerned that the academics are tending toward "academics
for academics sake" and not to support the military professional development.
2. I think that all graduates of USMA shold be regular officers to show
the professionalism of USMA.
[1419] I am concerned about the perceived lack of importance of USMA
in the US Army commissioning process. More and more, USMA is compared with
ROTC and the programs are portrayed as equivalent. If USMA does not focus
on a unique and specific mission such as training US Army officers for
land warfare, then I believe support for the institution will diminish.
[1420] Any drift away from production of combat leaders who are able
to handle stress is bad. If someone can't handle the stress of being treated
unreasonably for a few weeks after arriving at the Academy, then we probably
don't need him. There has to be some institutional system for determining
who really wants to be an officer and who is tepid about it--and get rid
of those who are tepid. While I was a cadet, the Supe (LTG Palmer) became
very proud of the high percentage of entrants who graduated. I believe
that the exact reverse is something to be proud of. The Commandant and
the Dean (who have four years to watch a person) should not abdicate the
power to decide who is worthy of leading American soldiers to the director
of admissions. No matter how well devised the admissions process is, it
is a joke compared to the Academy's program of instruction.
[1421] I like the direction the Superintendent indicated he wanted
to head when he presented the reassessment of the mission statement.
[1422] getting away from recruiting "whole-man" concept, and putting
too much emphasis on stellar academic/computer achievements
[1423] I was not impressed with the way that USMA seemed, per the
Wall Street Journal article, dealt with the Tac who was fired last year.
[1424] 1. I have been and always will be highly opposed to woman
at the Academies, but that is a moot issue and nothing can be done about
it. I believe it was undermined the basic fiber of the pupose of West Point,
Anapolis and the Air Force Academy.
[1425] Do not Know
[1426] Size of the Corps. Honor Code seems to have changed considerably
in practice. Maintenance of the physical plant seems to be lagging.
[1427] I'm concerned that the US Government is not financially supporting
one of its most sacred institutions. There seems to be a movement to having
the AOG/grads take responsibility for things that are rightly the responsibility
of the government.
[1428] 1. Lack of focus on the combat arms. Too many graduates look
at the army as a job and are not prepared to give their lives for their
country. 2. Academic standards are falling. Grade inflation is a problem.
3. Rotating faculty assignment at USMA is no longer a good job for one's
career. 4. Cadets come to USMA wanting to be tested. They want hard training.
It doesn't have to come from the 4th class system, but cadets need to have
a genuine sense of accomplishment when they graduate. 5. I don't know how
to solve these issues but it is clear to me that we cannot do everything
that we would like to do and that as a result we are not accomplishing
some of our core tasks. I am not convinced that the answer is to become
more similar to other colleges. It may be that we need to strike off on
our own in a more unique direction.
[1429] Aware of process in #27, but very much against signing up
USMA to ensure our graduates serve a specified length of time in a green
suit. We only have control over their openness toward that option at the
time they graduate. The experience in their first unit has a greater impact
on their career length. Are we willing to have someone judge our performance
as a pre-commissioning source based on something (career length) which
is impacted by a multitude of post-commissioning experiences?
[1430] Area tours are a tradition. Traditions bond graduates from
different classes. It is dangerous to toy with traditions that really are
not that important to change. "Adjusting" the 4th class system was necessary
to steer graduates to reflect changes in modern society. This I understand.
However, area tours just don't matter.
[1431] Elimination of rifle and pistol teams as varsioty sports,
while golf and tennis teams were kept
[1432] Subordination of any capability to produce leaders for combat
positions in the Army.
[1433] I am not current on the issues facing WP.
[1434] The letters on page 2 of the Jan/Feb Assembly express my feelings
better than I can. Where's the backbone at the top?
[1435] service should be voluntary after the training
[1436] I precieve that the Academy failure to place trust and confidence
in cadets because they are afraid of any bad press that may result from
potential honor cases. In effect, the Academy is trying to protect cadets
from themselves. An example of this is the so called free academic collaboration
policy. Instead of telling cadets not to discuss the content of examinations
with other students, the Academy encourages them to divulge the contents.
This prevents the cadets from potential honor violations by leagalizing
the disclosure of test data. It requires the instructors to write different
examinations for every hour that the examination is administered. When
the cadets graduate we can trust them with not discussing National secrets,
but prior to graduation we can not trust them not to discuss examination
content. I see a problem with this process. I see another problem with
the elimination of area tours. Instead of requiring cadets to perform a
military activity (marching) for punishment, they are required to perform
menial labor. West Point is a military academy. I think the punishment
should be a military punishment.
[1437] over-relaxation of stress in environement reduction of character
development becoming too much like a "normal university"
[1438] I am not familiar with any new policies or a new direction
for West Point. As a graduate, I would be interested in knowing any changes,
major or otherwise.
[1439] 1. Need to continue the emphasis on the mission being to develop
career military officers. 2. Do not go too far in having tenured civilian
academic instructors.
[1440] My main concern is the outside pressures (e.g, Congress, financial
pressures) which may cause unneeded or unwanted changes to USMA
[1441] I think that old grads only hear about the horror stories.
I am still trying to adjust from seeing the sign for the "Cadet Beauty
Salon" when I was up there for our last reunion. I am not familiar enough
with the direction in which West Point is heading to make specific comments.
From what I've read and from limited contact with USMA, I am concerned
about the loss of the warrior mentality at West Point. This, however, is
a malaise that affects the entire Army.
[1442] I continue to have concerns over the number of attempts to
have a west point become just another 2LT factory. No RA status, No 5 year
active commitment, reserve officers, Etc..
[1443] Recognition of Gay and Lesbian Graduates and Cadets other
than denying their existence.
[1444] WP continues to have "incidents" which are embarrasing to
the school and its graduates. One recent example was the "pinning" ceremony.
These things have been happening from time to time, but some are more egregious
than others. Mistakes should be tolerated, but i was personally embarrassed
by the "pinning" since such a ceremony in the Marines received national
notariety not so long ago. Are these things being addressed?
[1445] 1.Graduates should get RA commission.2.Easing of cadet living
should be stopped.
[1446] I think the Supe is wrong not to fight the reserve commission
law. It is the beginning of the end of the USMA.
[1447] I do not know any specific issues, policies or direction.
I probably would if I chose to subscribe to Assembly.
[1448] The minimal emphasis on the military aspects of USMA will
ensure that I never send money to the AOG.
[1449] USMA is an academy designed to produce Regular Army officers.
It seems that this has been forgotten by those who feel that the purpose
of West Point is to produce "leaders" for the nation. Because of this "leaders"
mentality, it was proposed that USMA graduates should compete for RA commissions
with ROTC officers. Refocus on the basics - let's train officers to lead
soldiers in war - everything else is trivial.
[1450] How do we maintain the status as a leading school of higher
learning and develop warriors for the 21st century? How do we maintain
USMA's strict moral standards with society's decay?
[1451] Continued work by the senior leadership OF THE ARMY is needed
to continue redefining the roles of West Point through the 21st Century,
and to continue to attract public understanding of and support for those
roles.
[1452] After sitting through a week of MALO training in 1996, I am
very concerned that the Supe's office is to focused on limiting attrition
rates than graduating top quality officers.
[1453] 1. continue to make case for relevance of service academies
as unique and elite training for Regular Army officers to provide structure
for potential expansion of troops in time of conflict. 2. gender-equity
pressure from social activists not resisted by highest officers who know
what will not work in real warfare (e.g., different physical fitness/exertion
standards).
[1454] We should not have lost the RA commission. We should keep
getting it back high on our "Washington Agenda" but I agree with most that
now is not the right time.
[1455] Don't mess with the purpose or mission - they're fine!
[1456] --Majors program is not in the best interests of the Army....need
a heavy engineering and science oriented core curriculum. --selfless and
values are an area of concern to me based on my experience with young LTs
[1457] I'm concerned that the Academy is straying away from the training
and discipline instilled by such leaders as COL Tex Turner and COL Hallums......we
seem to produce softer, less disciplined leaders. LTs which haven't internalized
the simple standards of AR 670-1 or FM 22-5, etc.
[1458] See item #29.
[1459] Have not followed closely enought to form an opinion.
[1460] See my comments above.
[1461] ***This comment is less about issues and policies, and more
about West Point's product*** I am concerned with the "final product" (2LT)
that West Point produces. I have not been favorably impressed with what
I have seen, as of late. Perhaps they are the products of the "What has
the Army done for me lately?" environment. I don't know...selfless service
to Country is a rare quality these days.
[1462] Beware of the temptation of passing (short term) "political
correctness".
[1463] Bad question -- I understand why WP is headed in the direction
it is: certainly wouldn't say I am happy with it.
[1464] Would like to see: --Emphasis on spirtual dimension of character
development --Emphasis on politeness and gentlemanly or woman behavoir
put back in. Cadets do not have couth these days --Put toughness back into
plebe year (personal observation of current firstie that I have observed
all four years is that he never obtained the slightest degree of humility---never
had the "cockiness" knocked out of him---still feels and acts very self-centered---not
concerned with others, and was able to get away with far too much) --KEEP
HONOR SYSTEM STRONG --KEEP IT FOR COMBAT ARMS ONLY
[1465] pressures to seek private funds to compensate for budget shortfalls
a mission statement that emphasizes service to the nation as Army officers
[1466] I am aware of only a small piece of the picture (dealing with
the corps squad status of the rifle/pistol/skeet teams) and feel the ship
is finally heading in the right direction. In other matters, I do not have
enough information to judge.
[1467] "Win at any cost" football Too many letters asking for money
Flexible morality on honor/misconbduct cases
[1468] The regular Army appointment system.
[1469] Not familiar enough to have an opinion
[1470] Declining performance in Major Sports. Must retain the Honor
system in spite of outside pressures.
[1471] I was very glad to hear the Supe's ideas and concept of the
future of USMA. My greatest concern is making strong leaders. My experience
was mixed. I felt when I graduated, it was 50-50 that a USMA grad would
be a better leader than and ROTC/OCS product. We must do everything possible
to increase the probability of producing leaders, not troubled LTs.
[1472] Do not feel that USMA should depend upon private fund raising.
Public monies, whether appropriated or non-appropriated, should be used
to fund USMA. USMA is unlike most civilian institutions in that it lacks
a large alumni force that is not financially well-off.
[1473] I understand cadets are not required to submit an acknowledgement
statement with their work any more. If this is true then the reasoning
for this change would be of interest to me. I also understand the cadets
submit much less homework for grades than they did in the past. Again,
the reasoning behind this change would be of interest. In a nutshell I
am concerned about academic rigor and honor.
[1474] 1. A few years ago we were told by the Superindendent that
he thought West Point had no responsiblity to past graduates. I think that
we should relook this issue and see what if any support could be given
to help cement bonds between graduates and West Point. 2. I think the current
policy of all 2LT being equal and having to earn RA commisions as officers
is the correct one. If the promotion system is fair and just the creme
will always rise to the top.
[1475] Not familiar enough with any new directions that USMA is heading.
[1476] As noted above, I am concerned about the survival of our military
academies as we enter the 21st Century. I am not aware of what we are doing
to ensure survival.
[1477] My concern is that the Military Academy seems to be fixed
in its purpose of being "only" a military institution. In fact, graduates
perform a wide range of national service beyond the Army. Might it be appropriate
(given the current and future world situation)and politically wise to expand
the charter of the service academies? I don't have a strong opinion on
either side of this issue but I believe that it is one worth discussion
and I am greatly disturbed at the trend to weakening our great institution.
Clearly, the current posture of of "military-only" service academies is
not selling on Capitol Hill as witnessed by a string of Congressional funding
and policy decisions.
[1478] It appears that USMA is interested in graduating civilian
students who might join the military. Some might even make it a career.
To me the goal of USMA is to graduate military officers who are desirous
of making the military a career, rather that having a scholarship as a
jumping off to a civilian career.
[1479] My impression is that political correctness has run amuck
at West Point.
[1480] The current policy of having USMA graduates commissioned in
the Reserves rather than the Regular Army. I also thought the Supe's comments
on this subject in the last Assembly were weak- i.e. not going to push
the issue!!
[1481] I am always concerned about too much "tinkering" with a proven
system, but have been pretty busy in service and in raising a family.
[1482] I am concerned about recent Army directed personnel/faculty
reductions and the impact that will have on the Academy and its education
mission. Additional area is infrastructure maintenance.
[1483] Increase in privatization of faculty and movement away from
a generalist, well rounded view to a more conventional college curriculm.
Movement away from West Point holding a distinguish or superior reputation
as a source of commissioning.
[1484] - "Kinder, Gentler USMA" Understanding the political moves
for enacting some reforms at USMA concerning plebe year, but I think the
discipline has slipped from a priority. Discipline would often distinguish
the "West Pointer" from the field. Now, as a Grad, I have a difficult time
distiguishing graduates from non-grads at the LT level.
[1485] I am concerned that there is a growing expectation that private
funds (fund raising) will cover expenses previously covered in part or
fully by federal funding.
[1486] A general loss of purpose is my sensing.
[1487] I disagree with his combined mission statement. 1 see no need
to change the current statement, and 2. it ignores the fact than many grads
serve our country in other ways beside the Army. some serve in the other
Services, and others devote a lifetime to federal civil service - some
of which are as hazardous to their well-being as serving in the Army.
[1488] Young people are much more highly educated than my generation
was, but I don't feel that they are as committed to the honor system or
service to country after graduation, as grads of my era were.2.I sense
that the "warrior" attitude is much stronger than heretofore, but I sense
that it is not limited to the battlefield.
[1489] 1. Regular Army commission for graduates 2. 5-6 year Active
Duty service obligation
[1490] My concern is only about Congressional support. I do not want
to see it get worse. The Academy leaders are doing the best job possible
with the means available.
[1491] erosion of tradition & identity
[1492] Do not like the gutting of the plebe system, the elimination
of area tours, or elimination of mandatory dinner. Other changes have bothered
me as well - many of them - but these are the ones that pop into mind readily.
[1493] The letter from the '89 grad in the last Assembly was an excellent
letter summarizing my own concerns. I have many classmates currently serving
as Ps at USMA. Most of their comments are positive. They do point out areas
that are more than just "the Corps has" candidates. My specific concerns
are that West Point is NOT a 4 year college! I went to one for a year and,
thanks to the AOG, I was given a scholarship to re-apply and to attend
USMA! I was proud of the difference. All I knew as a cadet was that I didn't
want the academy life to get any harder, but that I would be personally
embarressed if it got easier. If the ties to traditions (which almost always
never seem to make "sense" or have immediate "purpose", or have to) are
broken then the ties to the remainder of the Long Gray Line are broken.
You become the "Big Gray Place". The basis of the strongest bonds to classmates
and tradition are the 4th Class System. (Yes, I know the politically correct
name for it is something different!). It is the "Boot Camp" that each graduate
has the right to either brag about surviving or talk about in the same
context as a college with uniforms and funny rules. We are so concerned
about things like our athletic facility structure that we forget about
the brick and mortar of the other "foundation": the development of character
and courage that occurs during the plebe year. The graduates that make
it through a difficult and emotionally challenging plebe year will be a
far better group than the group that is given an easier road (to enhance
our dollar cost per graduate statistics through better retention rates).
[1494] One of my classmates pointed out that the new mission statement,
with it's 'career in the Army' portion, is an easy one to fall short on.
His concern is that Congress may hold us to the mission, and if we fail
to attain it, they would then have cause to shut us down.
[1495] In the final analysis, the reason for the existence of all
the service academies must be to insure that regardless of the vagaries
of public opinion, the armed services receives its representative share
of the best and brightest young graduates in America to insure that our
young men and women are properly led and our nation defended. This purpose
cannot be met by any other source to include ROTC whose assession reflects
public sentiment and the economic alternatives. This argues for the educational
sophistication that has developed at the Academy and the incresing complexity
of the Army has not diminished this requirement. At the same time the tendency
to replace "cadet" traditions with purely "professional requirements needs
to be carefully balanced with the need to build identity and allegience.
Attention should be paid to theories of student development. Do not try
to make the student somthing she or he is not. There is nothing wrong with
being a cadet before becoming a soldier.
[1496] I would like to see the Rifle and Pistol Teams reinstated
as a Corps Squad sports. Hard to believe that USMA can't afford to support
these teams and that many other universities can. Participation in these
sports clearly benefits 2LT's and the soldiers they lead.
[1497] No issues, I was very pleased to send my comments directly
to the Superintendent. Please note that I received a very quick response.
[1498] Congressional funding activities (or lack thereof). Talk of
eliminating/consolidating the academies. Condition of West Point facilities.
[1499] With the cutbacks in defense. I am concerned that USMA will
fall behind in academics and althelitics. Is there contact with the other
Academies in how they are handling the cutbacks and policy changes in the
Armed Forces.
[1500] Reductions in the level of Federal funding and the corresponding
larger burden of funding from from alumni and others.
[1501] I think USMA is on a steady course. Just continue to uphold
the core values of Duty, Honor, Country
[1502] I am disturbed that graduates no longer receive regular army
commissions upon graduation
[1503] The lost of tradition. I agree that change is good, however,
I believe that some traditions need to be kept.
[1504] USMA is falling into a trap by asking its graduates to fund
activities that should be funded by appropriations. I know that the Supe
claims that this is not so. For instance, the funding of academic chairs
should be from the government. The more the graduates fund, the less Congress
will appropriate, and USMA will gain nothing.
[1505] I'm never quite sure about this. Often, I have the impession
that we do not have enough stability in leadership at the Academy. I get
the impression sometimes that there is too much change occuring when the
superintendent changes. Each Supt seems to be bringing his own agenda with
him or an agenda created by the Chief of Staff. We need Supt like Gen Goodpaster
who made changes but who had the credibility to do so in a calm, reasoned
way. What we do not need is wild, frivolous changes which run counter to
the mission of the Academy.
[1506] Not in touch enough to say yes or no
[1507] Having a female in charge of the Office of Physical Education
does not have the best interest of the Military Academy at heart. This
is political correctness at its worst. No one will ever convince me that
this female was best qualified for the position.
[1508] I cannot say that I am aware of new directions enough to be
able to say yes or no.
[1509] Concerned about the quality of graduates. It seems like the
emphasis is on the quantity USMA can graduate every year v. the quality
of graduate.
[1510] Reserve vs RA Commission Crumbling physical plant Poor athletic
facilities Loss of Plebe Year
[1511] I am concerned that the Academy has lost its focus on training
leaders for Combat Arms. Current branch selection dilutes impact that graduates
could make in the 'teeth' of the Army.
[1512] I am bothered by civilianization process(and,I admit, by feminization--but
I submit to the inevitable) My remarks above apply. Be careful that you
don't promote West Point as a stepping stone to success in fields other
than military. It happens--but don't promote it.
[1513] Elimination of the Academies, specifically WP, from congressional
funding and the consciousness of Americans as a society.
[1514] ESTABLISH A WINNING ATHLETIC PROGRAM
[1515] Favor: the punishment tours changes; return of the RA commission
to those USMA designates as qualified; the Supe's mission statement azimuth
Athletics and winning are fundamental; yet at the intercollegiate level,
USMA must remain realistic that it is our character that counts in the
end; I'm uncomfortable with USMA becoming an incubator for professional
athletes and even ostentatious facilities.
[1516] civilianization of the academy. It seems as the school has
become more and more politically correct, it has become more like a civilian
college. It appears that the mission of the academy has changed from putting
out officers prepared for combat to putting out potential political canidates
prepared for running for office.
[1517] I would like to see greater separation of male and female
cadets in barracks and during physical/military training (like Marine Corps).
[1518] As a graduate of 18 years I am concerned with the great number
of graduates leaving the service immediately after their commitment as
well as the quality of junior company grade officer graduates. I have been
unable to pin point the cause and know a number of changes have occurred,
but it appears a different level of discipline and sense of dedication
is being instilled and taken away by the graduating cadets into the Army.
[1519] Concern about general trend away from military focus of the
service academies and standards of conduct.
[1520] not enough information on any changes
[1521] I am concerned about the fact that graduates do not seem to
be required to serve a full period of service. While I am very concious
of the fact that all the services need to watch spending (attrition of
personnel is a way of reducing costs) it disturbs me as a taxpayer to spend
a great deal of money educating and training a cadet and potentially not
seeing much of a return on the investment. If graduates are not required
to serve their full committment, what distinction is there between Academy
Graduates and ROTC graduates?
[1522] Placing fund raising efforts in AOG is, I believe, inconsistent
with the mission.
[1523] The major concern I have is the emphasis on recruiting cadets.
At the time I decided to go to the academy, most of the literature billed
the academy as a first rate education with leadership training and a guarranteed
job after graduation. What little I have seen since reflects the same idea.
But as a nation and an Army institution we need to instill in the applicants
that we want the very best young people our nation has to offer to do the
toughest job our nation has to offer: leading the next generation of Americans
in war if the nation so requires. The combination of drawdown/gulf war/and
more drawdown took an disproportionally large toll on my classmates who
were active duty. Unfortunately, a lot of emphasis is placed on success
of great leaders, but maybe not enough on war Patton's struggles, or Grant's
post Mexican War struggles, etcetera. As a repository of the Army's values,
West Point should be leading the way in teaching to its new graduates what
a lifetime of service to the nation is in this era when fewer and fewer
have a common base to teach duty and honor and country from. (The cadets
may still come with a sense of these ideas, but I can assure you their
soldiers do not). Back to the main point, fewer total applicants with slightly
lower qualifications on the average who are committed to the Army, I suggest,
are better for the nation and the Army than better qualified individuals
who jump ship at the opportunity of an "early out" or VSI when future advancement
seems curtailed due to drawdowns.
[1524] Focus of the Academy in the coming years (ie. revision of
role in society)
[1525] Over-emphasis on management/civilian skills. Lowering of physical
fitness standards. Re-emphasize warriors.
[1526] More emphasis on turning cadets into military leaders
[1527] dual standards for men and women
[1528] I believe we should do all we can to maintain our cherished
traditions to include a complete plebe year. We must resist the tempation
to join "outcome based education" and the remainder of society. Our school
is different and I, for one, am proud of it.
[1529] I have a concern, without basis in fact, that West Point is
1) too concerned with political correctness 2) is in danger of becoming
just another "ROTC" college.
[1530] I am continually concerned about the future of the Academy,
its funding (ie. tax vs. private monies), and its role within the entire
U.S. Army.
[1531] Funding. Importance to Army.
[1532] Concerned about losing the traditions of the past at the expense
of trying to do what appears to be "modernizing". The entire country is
in a moral decline and I hope that USMA nevre loses its focus.
[1533] Fully support enlightened leadership displayed by classmate
Howard Graves and SocSci Dept colleague Dan Christman. AOG has done outstanding
job of sharing their goals & accomplishments through Assembly and Register.
In my mind, that communications channel with grads has been the most important
function of Association.
[1534] Cadet Athletics Cadet Academic Programs Cadet Discipline development
programs
[1535] Again, we must be more vocal when the boneheads in congress,
and the civilian leadership, tinker with USMA for political purposes.
[1536] The Corps has.... Discontinuation of the 4th class system....
[1537] I like the changes to the leadership system, but I am concerned
that cadets may not be feeling as much pressure as was felt in the past.
Cadets need to be stressed in all ways to see how they can react to pressure
- I don't mean screaming upperclassmen. I do mean physical and mental stress.
[1538] I have a dichotomy. I want USMA to maintain its unique position
in US Universities, yet,I also want us to recruit the best qualified student
athletes available. If football is our major market outlet for general
mass visibility, then let's hire a first class coaching staff. We cannot
afford to learn on the job- it hurts recruiting and image too much. I do
not support any Congressional mandated consolidations for the Academies.
Any soldier that has been in combat realizes that it is terrible and we
should avoid it if possible, but the best defense is a strong offense-and
there are still crazies out there- so be prepared. Enough of preaching
to the choir.
[1539] The Hallums affair and negative press received. The loss of
Regular commissions upon graduation. The DOUBLE STANDARDS in Physical Training
and Testing between male and female cadets. The lack of FINANCIAL analysis
training in the core curriculum. Effective budgeting is essential to the
success of today's Army.
[1540] 1) Discipline is lacking 2) Cadets do not put as much time
into academics as they used to 3) too politicaly correct
[1541] We need a course correction to deal with the changed reasons
for the U.S. maintaining a strong military today. This must be dealt with
at USMA, and within the entire military institution.
[1542] Rather concerned about the "kinder, gentler approach" to cadet
life and Army responsibilities. We need tough leaders who dont get squeamish
when bullets fly. Forget politically correct and train officers to lead
soldiers IN COMBAT. That is the purpose that USMA exists for.
[1543] It is becoming too politically correct and has lost its "training
leaders" focus to become an academic inistitution with an academic faculty
that really doesn't care about soldiers.
[1544] 1. I've heard that there is a growing emphasis on an well-rounded,
academic versus warfighter focus which seems improper for a "Military"
academy. The mission is to train, first and foremost, military leaders,
not academics, not political or business leaders--every other school in
the nation churns those out in abundance. USMA doesn't need a majors program
or a more civilianized academic environment,; these are DISTRACTORS and
probably contribute to the massive migration out of the Army by our junior
military leaders, especially West Pointers. Having heard this from many
young Captains who elected to resign rather than go to their advanced courses
it is very disheartening--they want to put their "degree" to work. Very
illuminating.
[1545] Retention on Active Duty of Female Graduates-strengthen their
education on Responsible service during their obligated service
[1546] General Christman appears to be doing a very creditable job
in focusing on the future of West Point
[1547] The changing of the mission statement from the original one
without input from the graduates. It is more like an acedemic mission instead
of the one that serves the purpose of making leaders!
[1548] We must continue to be vigilant of those who see a diminished
need for the "academies" and become especially vocal over long periods
of relative peace.
[1549] Lack of focus on warfighting and selfless service
[1550] Continued trend of emphasizing "political correctness" at
the expense of preparing cadets for the realities of combat. Watering down
of the discipline within the Corps and distinction between classes. CLDS
should be reexamined to insure the 4th Class gets the proper attention
from the Upper Class Leadership and the Tactical Officers.
[1551] Very concerned that USMA grads are not given a Regular Commission
upon graduation.
[1552] Haven't followed where West Point is heading but whenever
I talk to grads about it -- be it the warrior ethic, the honor code, whatever
-- it always appears to be bad news.
[1553] I believe the most pressing question concerning USMA concerns
its future - if any. The academies continue to be in competition with other
institutions and I wonder how effectively they compete as a source of officers
for the armed forces. Specifically, is the cost of graduating and commissioning
officers from the service acadmies justified? Is there a need for the number
of graduates produced each year? Does the Congress - and the country -
feel we are getting our money's worth? Is this an attractive career for
young men and women today?
[1554] active duty commitmernt too short
[1555] There are many areas of change that cause me some concern.
But frankly, since leaving the Academy at the end of my tour teaching there,
I do not feel that I know enough about the daily operations and situations
to make intelligent suggestions.
[1556] More emphasis on dealing with the real world, both military
and civilian.Career officers should not feel like "fish out of water" when
they pursue a civilian occupation after a fine military career.
[1557] Yes, I am concerned about the creeping civilianization of
the Academy. It used to be that graduates would say the Corps has, and
they would at least half kidding. In recent years, we have seen the elimination
of pinging, the elimination of area tours, the virtual elimination of the
Fourth Class System, making most dinners optional, and probably lots of
other changes of which I am unaware. These are clearly major changes with
which I believe the vast major of graduates would oppose. I believe they
are indicative of a general softening of the West Point experiance, a change
which I find very unfortunate.
[1558] 1) The Corps of Cadets should be smaller. 2) Find ways to
increase discipline within the Corps. 3) Increase social skills training,
basic etiquette, for example. Don't go overboard, but remember that a lot
of families aren't passing this on to their children. 4) Every cadet should
receive formal training on computers, especially word processing, databases,
graphics and general use. Give the experienced cadets a chance to test
out or pre-qualify.
[1559] Apparent trend to make West Point like any other school is
alarming. The difficulties I experienced as a plebe helped prepare me for
the rigors I would face in the Army as well as gave me an appreciation
for the difficulties soldiers face. Any school can deliver a rigorous academic
schedule, but it is the environment that molds a West Point graduate.
[1560] Concern over how the academy is approaching the needs of the
Army in the 21st Century. It may have been communicated at some time, but
I have not heard or read very much.
[1561] The United States Military Academy should be concerned with
preparing its graduates for military service in the Army. Any other goal
(e.g. preparing graduates for generic 'service to the nation') should not
be pursued.
[1562] I am concerned of the effect of this Presidential Administration's
'social experimentation' in the military and its related political pressures
on the Military Academy's future.
[1563] Making the principles of the Honor Code more vague in terms
of what is or is not a honor violations. The principles seemed very clear
when I was a Cadet: I will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those that
do. However, today these principles have been obscured by legal definitions.
[1564] 1. No Regular Commissions 2. Becoming more like a civilian
college 3. Not training combat leaders
[1565] I feel country would be better served if the "lifetime" notion
of service / duty to the country were stressed more. Not all can serve
for 30 years, and still local communities could really benefit from the
leadership experiences of those wiht just 20 years.... but USMA ought to
not only focus on leadership for combat, but make folks aware of "consensus"
and democratic grass roots processes.
[1566] I have serious reservations about the manner in which leadership
training has been altered since my graduation in 1989. I have always felt
that the Military Academy has fallen short in communicating its reason
for existence. It is not simply a premier leadership institution. Any major
corporation could fund a leadership institute. West Point exists to develop
leaders who can perform under the most austere and pressure filled environments
imaginable - and unimaginable. No matter how inane the hazing was that
I underwent as a plebe, I could always look back on those events and tell
myself I put up with more stress for less reason than whatever it was I
was facing. The entire sum of my experiences at West Point, under intense,
immediate stress, served as my well spring of history that I could always
go back to in order to tell myself "you've been through worse, you've handled
more before." That pool of experience allowed me to handle a wingman's
radio call for permission to fire in one ear and my commander's request
for a situation update in my other ear during Desert Storm. It may sound
off-the-wall, but as the day unfolded and the radio became more frantic,
I remembered having my back against a Cow's closet door with three of his
classmates in my face, each asking for some completely different, unrelated
piece of 4th Class knowledge. Knowing I'd handled that before, when it
meant nothing, allowed me to handle it in an M1A1 crusing the desert floor
when it meant everything.
[1567] See concern listed below.
[1568] No Regular Army commissions on graduation Insufficient appropriated
fund support Impression that U.S.M.A. is trying to be an "Ivy League" college
instead of The Military Academy
[1569] I know it sounds trivial, but I would like to see a return
to a tougher 4th Class System -- not one which need be harsher or without
purpose, but just more demanding, or at least a full year long. I see the
results of "easier" or more stress-free Basic Training on todays recruits
-- and believe me, as a battery commander no matter what ANYONE ELSE is
saying, there are DEFINITE impacts -- and I do not want USMA graduates
going the same route, which in some cases I have seen (may be due to many
other things as well, but might not). I understand that it is a kinder,
gentler Army, but it does not have to be less demanding.
[1570] Deterioration of physical facilities is a serious problem
which needs addressing at the Federal level - not with private funds. Mission
statement needs to emphasize USMA's role in developing leaders for the
ARMY and our country, especially in times of war.
[1571] Two major things: My class, 90, had a high attrition rate
from the early-out options. I think this was due to the example of the
class of '87. After completing our plebe year the feedback from the "field"
about our example-setters was that they were all getting out in 2-3 three
years in service. I think a lot of my classmates were just punching there
WP ticket anticipating not full filling their commitment. I see this lack
of duty causing a dillution of the USMA mission statement. It has dropped
the "as an officer in the United States Army". Granted a career in the
Army may not be the best thing for everyone, but the cadets should aspire
to give it a fair try. Second, I am not an authority on the academic perspective
of leadership, but I will tell that we must constantly ensure that as we
change/remove the fourth class system, the positive traditions and legacies
of that which makes West Point the premier institution that it is are not
lost. Leaders of character must have situations that build characters even
though these situations may seem unorthodox or "politically incorrect".
[1572] Yes, as heard during post-A/N game discussions this past Dec:
I find it foolish and ridiculous (if true)that Cadets are now being required
to refer to each other by their rank as in SGT Jones or CPL Brown or LT
or CPT Johnson. What can realistically be gained by a policy like this.
These years, these times are when relationships are formed (can be formed)
that may be lasting -- and they are not always within your own class. Cadets
understand that someone in a position of responsibility is expected to
exercise that responsibility and they generally handle the relationship
appropriately. Being required to address each other by rank does not increase
the authority of anyone but rather serves the ego of someone or committee
who felt they had the next really great idea for change to be imposed.
This one (if true) is as bad as the attempt to prepare firsties for Officership
by moving them out of their Company areas just when they finally mature
enough to be role models for the plebes and, perhaps, third classmen. In
fact, it may be worse. Truly, what can it possibly be teaching other than
how to establish really phony relationships as 18, 19, 20, etc. year olds.
[1573] My class (1951) is currently working on this subject and I
will concur with it's proposals, when they are complete.
[1574] USMA and the AOG have not embraced the "One Army" concept.
One glaring example, in this survey, question number 5 has no place for
"civil life, active reserve service".
[1575] I certainly wish that USMA would support nondiscrimination
processes, such as in Proposition 209. Select the best candidates, and
then train them to be the best and caring leaders for both military and
civilian careers.
[1576] I would consider the graduates who influence the mission statement.
They should come from a variety of backgrounds - active duty, those who
left the army early, retirees, both genders, minorities.
[1577] I have heard rumors of policies etc that I have some concern
about. I do not know if they are valid concerns or not: Punishment tours
Female Haircut/style policy
[1578] The rate of change of the cadet experience from the traditional
four class system to a system which more closely parallels the Army in
the field. I don't disagree with the need for this transition, but suggest
the changes should come more slowly.
[1579] - increase in civilian faculty/military faculty ratio - apparent
reduced emphasis on producing Army/ military/combat leaders
[1580] I am not informed of these directional changes
[1581] Missing from the entire discussion about mission, purpose,
and goals is a vision for the academy, which is quite different from a
mission or purpose.
[1582] See comments about class officers.
[1583] Let's not lose the warrior spirit. Place greater emphasis
on graduates serving a full career in military service.
[1584] Stop tinkering with the mission statement of the USMA to be
"politically correct" or to respond to a fad
[1585] Let's not lose the warrior spirit. Place greater emphasis
on graduates serving a full career in military service.
[1586] USMA's tacit support for accepting the use of our country's
armed forces as a social sciences project. For the first time in my life,
I am beginning to seriously question the need for federally supported military
academies at all.
[1587] change in commissioning status fund raising requirements
[1588] I am not happy with overemphasis placed on academics. Military
science, training, and joint education need to emphasized!
[1589] It seems to me that the Academy has bought into the notion
that "kinder gentler" training is needed to appeal to today's youth who
may not yearn for a career in the military but do desire to devote their
life to the country. However, these graduates will soon find that preparing
for an Army career is the reason West Point exists. The Army is best served
by smarter, tougher, graduates who can handle extreme pressure and stress.
A cadet who does not desire a career in the military may best serve his/her
country by pursuing academic excellence elsewhere.
[1590] - Lack of sexual discrimination/harrassment training and classes
and enforcement
[1591] Double standards for men and women. Lowering of standards
to accommodate women. Too many soft-core majors and minors. De-emphasis
of class rank. Optional meals. Too many privileges too early (cars, drinking,
leave, etc.) Too much emphasis on retaining people rather than weeding
out misfits or softies. Allowing branch choices that are not combat branches.
[1592] Increasing number of civilian instructors vice military officer
instructors at USMA
[1593] From some of the fund raising letters I get, I wonder if USMA
has the money to go on. Is it really that bad, and if so, is USMA/AOG/the
Army, doing everything we need to do to keep the government properly funding
the instution.
[1594] While it is undeniably valid that USMA must produce "leaders
of character," I think that the goal of producing commissioned officers
for the Armed Forces needs to be equally mentioned in the Mission Statement.
Doesn't Harvard, Yale, etc. produce "leaders of character?" We need to
articulate why the Academy is unique to America.
[1595] Not sure the academic major capability supports the needs
of the army. Need to relook in light of OPMS XXI impact.
[1596] Not confident in knowing what the policy shifts have been
executed or are proposed.
[1597] concerned with the increased attention paid to toeing the
line with what is politically correct at the expense of preparing future
leaders to win America's wars, being morally steadfast and adhering to
Duty, Honor and Country.
[1598] Slippage away from service to the nation as an officer in
the regular army
[1599] I think the decision to do away with area tours is short-sighted.
My guess is that it is the result of budgetary restraints and a misguided
notion that punishment is "better" if the cadets are performing menial
tasks. The negatives of tossing tradition aside outway the de minimus gains
of the new disciplinary policy as I understand it to be.
[1600] How USMA is handling the downsizing: how are civilian professors
working out: ability of graduates to enter other than the combat arms seems
to dilute the mission and adds to the controversy of size and need for
an academy.
[1601] Superintentdent is proactive to gain "buy-in" for his policies
and ideas. If he doesn't get it, he does what he wants to do anyway --
and in three years, he's gone.... I am concerned that too much emphasis
on, and responsibility for USMA needs are being placed on its grads without
AOG supporting its grads. See earlier comments. The support from the grads
should be them putting pressure on the Fed Govt (Pres, Congress, DoD, etc).
High placed grads have power to do that. The more high placed greads, the
more the power.
[1602] Hang tough until the Clinton darkness passes. Life of cadets
doesn't seem very unique any more. Just another college right now, like
what Thayer must have faced.
[1603] Ido not believe the Supe is amenable to advice. witness his
handling of the Richardson advisory board, his pushing for admission to
Conf USA, his lowering of PT standards, etc. Again, this opinion is shared
by many.
[1604] What concerns me most is the degree to which rumors, frequently
distorted, outrun the facts due to poor communications.
[1605] Concerned that USMA is too concerned with being politically
correct.
[1606] Not enough information at this time.
[1607] - I feel we joined the wrong football league. Should have
joined the Big East. - I am concerned with the negative feedback I am hearing
from some senior officers as to the attitude of recent graduates, especially
relative to their readiness to make excuses. - I truly hope the Corps is
being instilled with the love of the place as were we (most of us anyway).
Its contribution to this country, its past graduates, etc. - Finally, I
am very concerned with the apparent bad reputation we seem to have with
the "powers that be." Both Congress and the Seniors in the DOD/DA are not
that enamored with USMA.
[1608] Honor system. I have seen a lot of rhetoric on its eficacy.
I have also learned from a cadet - second hand from another grad - that
some "minor" honor violations can be expunged by punishment tours. If so,
this is an erosion of the system. It is also a symptom of the administration's
apparent concern at taking all reasonable and unreasonable steps to lose
as few cadets as possible, rather than letting the lesser luminaries wash
out. This latter may not be all bad, as it is so hard to predict who will
be successful later in their career.
[1609] focus on military more
[1610] Infrastructure funding excessive academic majors lowering
of standards
[1611] 1. Diminished academic rigor in curriculum. 2. Too much emphasis
on recruiting of minorities, women, and athletes instead of future carreer
officers.
[1612] Would like to know if taxpayers are getting their money's
worth from female graduates, i.e., are they staying for careers at the
same rate as males or are they resigning at a higher rate.
[1613] Congressional attempts to downgrade role of service academies
because of funding constraints
[1614] Liked the old mission statement better. Don't change the rules
to accomodate women
[1615] I am gnerally happy, but notice these problems: 1) Etiquette
MUST be taught to cadets 2) Military Subjects should be taught year-round
if possible 3) Athletic Facilities are in TERRIBLE (TO THE POINT OF BEING
EMBARRASSING) condition
[1616] The standard complaint. .. the place has gotten too easy and
the new officers are not very strong as a consequence.
[1617] Graduates should be focused on a military career, not general
service to the nation, e.g. as a banker, lawyer or other professional.
[1618] I believe that we made some critical mistakes years ago when
we failed to maintain a focus on USMA as a principal provider of the nations
warrior leaders. This attempt to liberalize generated a variety of changes
which, in my view, diluted the qulity and focus of graduates. I am aware
that there are any number of explanations and rationalizations for the
course that has been followed and the characterizations that can be applied
to those who disagree. We must be awre of the fact that if West Point does
not in the end provide, first and foremost, warrior leaders who will stand
and lead in the face of fire, that the need for the institution is open
to question.
[1619] Not happy with failure to attack reserve commissioning; not
happy with collapse of WPPA-we need to actively support gards for key promotions/assignments
in the Army - these type of success numbers keep the bean counters at bay.
[1620] too many to list they should be obvious to anyone who cares
about soldiers
[1621] Again, I feel that USMA has, once more, fallen victim to its
own need for improvement. We continually edit and amend the process of
creating an officer. We exist to support and defend the Constituition of
the United States. I think we have forgotten that our graduates may find
themselves facing the unenviable decision of whether or not to stick a
bayonet into someone. I don't know if today's graduates have the stomach
for it. When I was a cadet, we had Tex Turner. He was a role model for
hundreds of cadets. He inspired young men and women to serve their country
proudly. He was a leader. I would wager large money that the current regime
would run him out in the blink of an eye - Just like they did with that
COL last year. The simple fact is that the MISSION of West Point has never
changed, yet we continue to fool with the semantics of it.
[1622] I am still concerned with the civilianization and blatant
political correctness that was being implimented into the academy under
the Clinton admin. It needs to be a comat arms school.
[1623] I feel that to some extent the Academy has become too much
of "just another college" & lost its unique place as the primary producer
of career officers for the US Army. Because of the emphasis on being like
civilian schools the Congress (made up of mostly non-veterans) is having
difficulty understanding why it should continue to be funded by the government.
Loss of Regular Army commissions upon graduation is an example.
[1624] I perceive that the standards for Cadets are being devalued
by offering "soft" curricula, such as management, in lieu of hard engineering
subjects formerly required. Also the softening of the disciplinary process,
such as discontinuation of punishment tours as traditional West Point tools
of leadership development, etc. There is an inordinate emphasis on retention
measures.
[1625] USMA tries too hard to compete with top civilian universities
on their own terms, to beat them at their game, rather than compete by
offering a distinctive alternative, delivered with superb quality.
[1626] Graduates should be given RAcommissions at graduation as before
not have to wait until Major rank.
[1627] Joint Service Academy consolidation
[1628] 1. Liberalization of curriculum to detriment of preparing
for a "lifetime career" as an office in the US Army (not on a Corporate
board). 2. Selecting PAP's before battalion command.
[1629] Need to effect restoration of a mission directing graduates
to an Army service career.
[1630] USMA's first purpose is to produce Army officers and I think
that the mission statement should state that explicitly, unapologetically.
From my limited understanding, such change is now under consideration,
and I support that.
[1631] I am concerned that with each new commandant, he seems to
be trying to out "PC" the last commandant. In particular the plebe year--it
appears to be less than what basic recuits go through, the appointment
of a last director of athletics--how much troop command time has she had?,
no sociallizing at West Point for upperclasses and their dates. Let me
explain this last one: When I visit WP, I am amzed how empty it is on the
weekends. One side of me says that is good--I am glad to see the cadets
off and having more weekends. This is definitely an improvement. However
now no cadets invite their dates to WP for the weekend, except Ring Weekend,
etc. What does the Cadet Hostess do these days?? My point is that there
will be a lot of stress on these 2nd lts, and is would be good to get their
otherb half to see the military side with its demands and benefits.
[1632] Reserve commissioning is the first step in closing USMA. As
we go to a small force, we should be even more concerned with maintaining
the core (Corps) cadre of professional officers. A reserve commission does
not serve the purpose. Additionally, it tends to take away the "professional"
attitude. If the focus and purpose is to provide professional career officers,
we MUST have RA commissions. Drawdown ROTC and centralize the officer Corps
at West Point as it was pre-WWII. The decentralized ROTC and OCS processes
do not produce with same degree of unrelenting success as does USMA. We
should endeavor to return USMA to the MAIN source of commissioning of Active
Army Officers and let ROTC refocus on just that, reserve components. The
military only stands to benefit too, if we imbue the spirit of CAREER PROFESSIONAL
OFFICERS. No longer can we be satisfied with people to do their five and
to corporate America. I know it is a tough decision for an eighteen year
old man or woman to make a career decison, but if the enter with the proper
attitude, USMA can and will foster the spirit and desire to be a career
officer. Service to the nation can then continue following retirement from
active duty. Our vey high seperation rate after the completion of the initial
commitment is what makes USMA less cost effective than the bean counters
in congress and GAO like to see.
[1633] grads are no longer RA
[1634] 1. Keep the focus on producing officers for today's (and tomorrow's)
Army. If we can provide a world-class education, fine, but that is a secondary
consideration. There are numerous WP skeptics out here who'd love to see
it slip into the Hudson and they have some valid arguements. Must emphasize
the military preparation! 2. Concern about special consideration for athletes.
Love the football team, but let's keep the field level: if a football player
can do it, let's make it an option for the rest of the corps. Specific
reference to deals working here to let officers out of committments to
play ball. What are the specific criteria for these early outs and do they
apply to the Microsofts of the world as well as the 49ers/Giants/Saints
. . .
[1635] Need to restore regular commissions
[1636] The last Thayer award reciepiant seemed to reflect a trendy
appeasement rather than an outstanding example of the academy ideal of
honor.
[1637] Perhaps it is a perception problem, but the mission of USMA
is not just to produce leaders for the country, many outstanding universities
do that already. The mission should state that it is to produce military
leaders for the country. That is the unique characteristic of being an
academy graduate. The country benefits when the graduates leaves the military
and joins the civilian ranks, but that should not be the focus of the institution's
mission. I see, and feel, confusion on the actual status of the Military
Academy. Is it a military academy dedicated to producing an ethically strong
and technically sound military leaders, or is it a university that happens
to wear uniforms? Many cadets and recent graduates I have talked to indicate
what makes West Point unique is being diluted by smaller academic loads
(oh those star days on Saturday), less stringent discipline (having the
ability to email the senior officers on the post is not a real good way
to teach the importance of the chain of command), and the abolishment of
the formal fourth class disciplinary system. It is significant that when
USNA had its stand down that the overwhelming input from the midshipmen
was more discipline and stricter regulations was desired. Concerning the
Fourth Class System. It should be formally reinstituted in its full glory,
or tension. Plebe year is the time that a class develops its reputation
and character. Part of what brings a class together is shared trials and
tribulations. The isolation of the class (no recognition, special behavior
like "pinging", and knowledge requirements) served to foster the bonds.
Cooperate and Graduate took on a special meaning as a plebe, especially
for a screw up like me. West Point was viewed by many as a laboratory for
leadership development. Many cadets learn what leadership style works best
for them and more importantly what motivates subordinates as an upperclassman.
The plebe learns what behaviors are unacceptable, or worthy of emulation,
in a leader by being subjected to them. The results of slow assimilation
into the Corps of Cadets is separation. The old Fourth Class Discipline
system ("4Cs and 4Ds) was separated the formal disciplinary system (600-1)
for the plebes. No matter how big a screw up the plebe was, the fourth
class system would not result in separation. Minor infractions that would
result in 2-1 for upperclassmen where taken care of by the fourth class
system. Areas were walked, but demerits did not accumulate as quickly.
It appears to me that the use of the formal 600-1 disciplinary system on
the plebes does not allow for development of the cadet, since errors are
less tolerated. It seems like always using a Court Martial when an Article
15 would suffice. I did not mean to ramble, but am concerned that when
talking to cadets they do not feel the same class identification or pride
in the institution that I have.
[1638] Over the past twenty years, the leadership, aided immensely
(and perhaps guided) by the ever-growing permanent faculty, has just about
finished the job of doing away with everything that made the Academy unique.
It's now just a big ROTC department. Instead of looking forward to leading
troops, cadets now sweat what graduate school they'll get into. Talked
to a non-grad ex-sosh instructor recently, who said USMA was "the biggest
sit-around-in-a-circle-and-sing-Kumbaya-place" he'd ever seen. Imagine
my pride.
[1639] Feminization of the military, starting at WP.
[1640] ADDITIONAL NECESSITY TO INCULCATE CADETS IN IDEALS OF ACADEMY
WITH SEVERAL THOUGHTS COMING TO MIND: TAKE CARE OF YOUR TROOPS - LACK OF
ARROGANCE - UNSELFISH DEVOTION TO DUTY - HONESTY - RESPONSIBILITY HAVE
GRADUATES BE INITIALLY ASSIGNED TO COMBAT ARMS. TRANSFER TO SUPPORT BRANCHES,
CAN COME AFTER THE GRADUATES UNDERSTANDS MORE ABOUT THE ARMY'S CORE.
[1641] - I feel reluctant to answer as I have been unfamiliar with
recent developments at WP since my graduation. I would, however, be very
interested in staying informed about the progress of the Academy.
[1642] Corps becoming too politically correct. Focus on developing
warfighting leaders being diluted. Article on Beast '85 and '97 an example.
Hate to say it, but it seems that the corp "has" or soon will. By the way,
what are these wreaths on cadet uniforms these days? I have yet to see
them on greens or other Army uniforms.
[1643] I provided the Supe with input and he respnded.
[1644] We must ensure that the Academy continues to provide a different
and superior product than an ROTC graduate. There must be value added.
With so many changes we must not lose that edge or we have no justification
for continued existience.
[1645] Perception that admission standards have been relaxed Perception
that emphasis has shifted away from developing a professional officer corps
to academics only Perception that lower initial admission numbers coupled
with pressure to graduate a larger percentage of initial accessions means
reduced standards at graduation
[1646] Need more time and info to respond intelligently.
[1647] While I have no particular issue with the direction USMA is
pursuing, my biggest concern is the influence of leadership and vision
concerning our country. To what extent can we provide a greater contribution
in a global society moving at the speed of light?
[1648] I AM RELATIVELY NEW TO THE ARMY, I HAVE BEEN IN FOR ONLY 37
MONTHS, BUT I CAN SAY THAT I HAVE BEEN SURPRISED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF UNDISCIPLINED
OFFICERS AND THEIR LACK OF VALUES AND MORALES . GRANTED, MOST ARE NOT WEST
POINT OFFICERS, BUT I BELIEVE THAT WEST POINT SHOULD NOT "EASE UP" ON CADETS
AND THE STANDARDS AND PRIVILEDGES PROVIDED TO THEM. I BELIEVE THAT MAKING
IT TOUGHER ON THEM WILL ONLY BETTER THEM FOR TODAYS ARMY. THE ARMY TODAY
DOES NOT CONDONE ANY TYPE OF UNDISCIPLINED BEHAVIOR OR ADVERSE ACTIONS.
WEST POINT MUST CONTINUE TO SET ITSELF APART FROM REGULAR INSTITUTIONS
BY INSTILLING DISCIPLINE AND PROVIDING THESE TOUGH STANDARDS. IT IS WHAT
SETS OUR SCHOOL APART FROM OTHER COLLEGES AND ROTC PROGRAMS.
[1649] We seem to be losing tradition--things that made West Point,
"West Point." Discipline also seems to be declining and was even admitted
to me by a current cadet.
[1650] I don't know enough about the direction to comment.
[1651] I have a younger brother at USMA now, so he keeps me informed.
I can't believe the direction that plebe life is heading. Plebe year is
supposed to be hard. Mine was...
[1652] De-emphasis on academic excellence. Many cadets perceive that
mediocre grades are acceptable since all are commissioned as 2LT's, starting
out with a clean sheet. We all remember "2-oh and go" and "a tenth pro
is a tenth wasted." This is a handicap when USMA grads then participate
in competitive selection processes which scrutinize undergraduate transcripts.
A shift toward "political correctness". Example - the court martial last
year of the cadet accused of rape by another cadet despite evidence that
the young woman was intoxicated and the act was consensual.
[1653] SAME COMMENT AS NO. 20
[1654] I'm unaware of these policies, but would welcome the opportunity
to provide feedback. Basicly I think the Army (and USMA) is out of touch
with the real world.
[1655] I am concerned about the perceived 'de-militarization' of
USMA
[1656] We shouldn't be lowering standards to accomodate women. If
they can meet tough standards, OK. But I think keeping tough standards
is impossible in the world of PC.
[1657] Do not agree with the liberizing of the traditions. Shortening
Plebe year, Area punishment tours, etc...
[1658] This is only an individual perception and/or opinion. Since
USMA has changed much of it rules/policies governing the development of
cadets (beginning in the early '90s), I have noticed a smaller percentage
of graduates actually focused on a career in the military. It is my perception
that "cooperate and graduate" has lost its meaning in a more individualistic
cadet environment. Thus, recent cadets seem much more like individuals
looking to get out and start a lucrative civilian career. A generalistic
example of the changes was the change in rules governing how Plebes eat
at the table, how upper class cadets are limited to how they make a "correction"
on a plebe, OML formula weighted toward academics, etc. The focus seemed
to guide cadets towards targeting their efforts on academics and that all
other "extra-curricular activities" were secondary in priority. USMA's
reputation for a "whole-person" concept seems to be falling by the way-side.
Thus, my major concern is that USMA's direction may be heading for a reputation
that it is just another "private" college while being federally funded.
I would like to think that future USMA graduates will continue to maintain
the public image of a leader of this nation (whether in the military or
the civilian sector). Much of my response also reflects the issues I personnally
perceive in the army; leadership is no longer a focus and individualism
has become a way of survival. My goal of this response is not to sound
like an "old grad" reminiscing the "old corps" but rather a typical grad
making an objective (and opinionated) observation of the the perceived
differences in recent grads since many of the changes in hopes of raising
a legitimate issue for decision-makers at USMA to reflect on as we move
into a new era. BEAT NAVY!
[1659] I am basically unaware of where West Point is heading. The
local Society would be a good source for information, but I rarely get
a chance to meet with members. I am concerned about the committment (or
lack of it) policy of graduates and the comparative quality of West Point
graduates and their ROTC counterparts. It seems that ROTC is getting better
(good), but USMA graduates?
[1660] Graduation rates Athletics Commissioning
[1661] AAA seating policy at football games
[1662] 1. Commissioning as Reserve officers --> all West Point graduates
should be granted Regular Army commissions.
[1663] 1. Commissioning as Reserve officers --> all West Point graduates
should be granted Regular Army commissions.
[1664] Many of the areas where WP (and other service academies) are
off track are really Service matters, e.g sending grads off to non-combat
branches without first having to serve for two or three years in same to
learn what the Service is there to do (of course, this presents some problem
with the women); the size of the Corps is too big -- too many graduates
for the size of the Army and no where to put them.
[1665] Lack of RA commission for graduates
[1666] WP should get back to being more of a professional military
training school for commanders and less like a taxpayer supported general
collage.
[1667] 1. lack of RA commissions. 2. Too high a percentage of civilian
instructors. 3. Too broad a curriculum. 4. Graduates shoud initially be
assigned to combat arms. 5. Size of corps should be reduced commensurate
with the downiszing of the Army.
[1668] I am dismayed at USMA's drive toward academic prestige with
the apparent sacrifice of instilling a desire to serve out one's career
in the military. I witnessed much of this when I was a branch rep at USMA
1991-93, and have continued to see indications that the academy encourages
our young graduates to see themselves as temporary soldiers rather than
career officers. While I myself exited the military, I left with a great
deal of pain. I left to take care of my children with the hopes that, when
my husband retired, I might continue service in an AGR or NG job. Now I
see young graduates taking the first opportunity to hurry off of active
duty, with the open arms of AOG waiting to usher them off into civilian
jobs. My husband has been outraged to be approached in his job as an assignments
officer at PERSCOM by USMA graduates hoping to help get a grad out even
earlier than 2 years. My feelings are that AOG has become a job mill in
much the same way that USMA appears to be a diploma mill rather than a
place that fosters a strong desire to serve the country. I don't like that
new mission statement.
[1669] Replacing military instructors with civilian instructors is
bad for the Army. The Army leadership should petition Congress to reinstate
the military faculty. AOG has not come clean about the mismanagement of
the USMA funds by a previous superintendent that has in part brought about
the need to shake down graduates for money. Until this happens, getting
more contributions will be a hard sell.
[1670] I am concerned about the (unclear) new policy by which graduates
are no longer assured active duty commissions, however I doubt that the
Supe choose that policy. If congressionally mandated, I find it an atrocity.
[1671] do not have sufficient data to answer
[1672] Is WP trying to be too collegiate? You may be getting higher
SAT scores from your entrants, but you're getting fewer graduates in the
chair of the Joint Chiefs. Don't lose sight of the purpose of the Military
Academy which is to produce officers for the U.S. Army, who must stand
up in front of the troops and say follow me into this ugly mess.
[1673] Changes to the Honor System, in particular locks on doors
and the level of officer involvement in the Corps' Code and enforcement.
Statements on service to the nation, without the services to support graduates
upon exiting the Army. My models for this sort of support would be top
10 business schools which offer extensive alumni support networks and career
centers.
[1674] I am concerned by a general degradation of West Point's fundamental
principles and rich traditions and a lowering of its standards for discipline
to follow the latest social trends and fads under the guise of supporting
new, more politically correct "initiatives." West Point needs to get back
to the basics of building strong leaders of character! The many recent
graduates I have met do not impress me in the least! In fact, there no
longer is a difference between West Pointers and officers commissioned
from other sources. In my opinion, these self-centered graduates lack a
sense of service and make one wonder if West Point is worth the cost.
[1675] More of a queestion than anything...How are we getting the
new classes ready for the mental toughness they'll need as commissioned
officers with the current conduct of the fourth class system? Seems as
though there's no challenge other than academics left.
[1676] 1) After mandatory service, class rentention rates in the
Army are poor; 2) Winning image of Army football must be restored...like
it or not, it's important to recruiting; 3) Recruiting in the West appears
to receive less emphasis than in other parts of the country; 4) Are things
too PC?; 5) Perhaps it's time to recruit a few more "B" students( who make
the better leaders in the long run) rather than always opting for the academic
super stars.
[1677] I don't like the proposals for a potential graduate program
at USMA and am not currently aware if this is an idea formally being studied
or proposed.
[1678] Yes, West Point needs to focus on how officers can better
survive in the Army. ROTC folks seem to have an upper edge.
[1679] I am out of touch with what has changed.
[1680] I am concerned that the academic curriculum, with it's core
focus on the basic sciences & mandatory languages such as portugese,
may not be the best education possible for cadets. As many cadets are now
Humanity & Public Affairs majors as Math-Science-Engineering majors.
I would rather the Academy shift it's focus from being an "engineering"
school to a "management" school.
[1681] Fund raising: I think USMA and/or AOG need to take a very
serious, probably more professional apporoach to fund raising.
[1682] I am concerned about the continuing reliance on gifts to support
brick and mortar infrastructure. I am concerned that Congress is abdicating
its responsibilities in the maintenance of WP as a military and historical
installation.
[1683] My understanding is that the issues and policies of West Point
are becoming increasingly affected by macroenvironmental effects (i.e.
social, political, etc.) Consequently, the "West Point Way" that I and
former graduates had been accustomed to, has been lessened. Thus, the individual
developmental process of cadets is detrimentally affected.
[1684] - Apparent inability to influence or undo decision to not
grant USMA graduates Regular Commissions.
[1685] Not aware of new issues, policies or direction.
[1686] Issues: The Corps, with dirrection from above, has gotten
too soft! Although our society has become more laid-back, that doesn't
mean that my Academy/school has to follow suite. Plebe year seems to be
a farce. Military training seems to be on the back burner. Accomodating
everyone seems to be the goal at the expense of providimg the best leadership
training. Etc.
[1687] I'm concerned that the elimination of the "plebe experience"
will allow weak-willed persons to graduate and get people killed in combat.
I remember classmates who "stressed out" of the Academcy; better there
than in front of troops.
[1688] Lack of commitment and mental toughness from recent graduates.
Every USMA graduate or cadet I have encountered in the last few years--probably
around 40 or 50(of both sexes)--have failed my most important test--Can
I trust this young lieutnant to want to know and do his job and then be
totally committed to accomplishing the mission. The desire to actually
serve the Army and the Nation is obviously absent in each recent graduate.
[1689] I am concerned that in the effort to be "Politically Correct"
the Academy may be producing leaders who are afraid to make the hard decisions
and do what is best for the army and the defense of the nation. I am more
concerned with developing the best fighting force for the money, rather
than the most "equal opportunity" force for the money. There is a huge
chasm between these two goals. I fear that the Academy is focusing on the
latter, rather than the former.
[1690] Mission statement is wrong. Production of leaders of character
for the nation is not the role of the Army's academy. Must return to a
mission statement that speaks to career leaders in service to the nation
as officers of the US Army. There is an increasing move away from the military
aspect of academy life. Examples include military instruction during an
intersession rather than throughout the year, cadets not able to attend
Range School (refered to by one faculty member as a negative leadership
environment); cadets go on fellow ships with DOD, DA and Government Departments
in lieu of CTLT or attendance at a military school. The Academy must exist
to produce career officers of character, or the investment will not pay
off.
[1691] I think that the languages taught by DFL and the emphaisis
on certain languages should be changed to reflect the times. For example,
I think French and Portuguese should be deleted and Korean added. The net
result of dropping one language would, in effect, place additional emphaisis
on the resulting languages which would be: Arabic, Chinese, German, Korean,
Russian, Spanish. Also a third semester language requirement should be
reinstated.
[1692] I know that the Superintendent is steering the Academy in
the right direction, but at the same time I dislike seeing the Academy
breaking from so many traditions (Area Tours).
[1693] 1. Lack of commitment to service in US Army 2. Ability to
select non-combat branches 3. Negative influence of women at West Point
[1694] The availabiliy of funding for the academy versus political
realities nationally and internationally have always been obscure. The
AOG, or some organization, should be more active politically to insure
no social engineering is imposed without appropriate funding and complete
review by everybody (ie. slow the process). Influence the academy management
to adjust the size of the corps and the curriculum to budgetary requirements.
[1695] Many graduates I have talked to and I feel that West Point
is abandoning the "warrior spirit" and that some graduates are coming out
of USMA thinking they will not have to kill others in their career. I taught
at West Point and have great respect for its academic achievements, but
I believe its OK for an officer to be smart AND be able to kill the enemy
and break things.
[1696] concerned with the dilution of the fourth class system as
recently well explained in the letter published by the woman graduate comparing
her fourth class summer to the current one
[1697] Discussions in the press about comments made in Congress on
cutting back funding, etc., related to the service academies.
[1698] I've noticed that new grads (the one's I've seen) don't handle
pressure well (like I learned to in Beast and during plebe year) and seem
to be expecting conditions in the Army to be more ideal than reality permits.
They didn't seem to me to be very flexible at first (although most of them
did learn and were able to overcome bad initial first impressions.
[1699] We have apparently been unsuccessful in creating an atmosphere
at USMA in recent years that there is an expectation of a career in the
Army for all graduates. There is too much talk among faculty and cadets
of the great possibilities in the civilian workplace. The downsizing gave
rise to some of this, but the attitude that a military career is only one
possibility will eventually create great damage to the Academy.
[1700] My main concerns are addressed above and directly relate to
an over emphasis on athletics.
[1701] 1. RA commission issue 2. Too much emphasis on fund-raising,
especially the new stadium complex/weight room--who cares whether the football
team has better equipment? That is only 70 cadets...what about the other
3930 cadets? 3. Insistence by USMA staff (many of whom are grads and went
through a tough plebe/USMA experience) that the "old" ways aren't good...didn't
they produce Lee, Patton, etc.?
[1702] I don't know the direction (out of the loop) Last Founders'
Day speaker talked mosting about sports.
[1703] No RA commission upon graduation and allowing graduates to
choose other than combat arms branches. I think these policies are setting
the academies up for closure.
[1704] Return to Order of Merit for graduates instead of listing
them alphabetically
[1705] My son, who is a Plebe, has not been tested in the same way
that past classes have had to endure. He actually gained weight during
Beast Barracks. A number of upperclassmen (not in his chain-of-command)
have "recognized" him during his first semester. Academics are not as demanding
and cadets get too much free time, particularly on weekends. My eldest
son, who is a junior at Virginia Tech in their ROTC program, is more physically
and academically challenged than my son at West Point.
[1706] Read and compare "Making the Corps" .Somewhere we seem to
have lost our bearings.Maybe we are trying to stay to close to what's popular
rather than doing what's correct.This isn't just "the Corps has".The emphasis
seems to be more on retention rates(with the same basic caliber input).Shorten
everything,ease up on honor penalty,etc.etc.We need fewer really good men
& women.
[1707] I believe all old grads lament the relaxation of standards
and the "civilianization" we have observed over the years.
[1708] I feel what all grads feel, that it is getting less disciplined
but that is probably just a figment of the imagination. I do wish the football
stadium would get grass and that Bob Sutton would leave.
[1709] I believe we may be eliminating some of the elements of stress
for new cadets that are essential for creating the capability to think
clearly and make logical decisions in stressful combat situations. Why
mess with almost 200 years of success? Eventually we will change something
needed for success in the name of progress.
[1710] Need more info re issues/policies to respond.
[1711] The elimination of the Pistol and Rifle teams as official
intercollegiate sports at West Point was mistake. This is an area where
the Army should be in the lead (as opposed to the Navy). I understand that
this was done for budgetary reasons, but the "club sports" are not a complete
substitute because of the general level of support that is lost. It also
leaves the quality of coaching to chance since coaching now depends on
volunteer officers or NCO's. Away events now often depend on donations
or the cadets paying their own way. Perhaps updating these sports programs
to be more in line with the direction of the current and future Army will
make them more appealing to those that make the bugdet decisions. (I would
gladly provide input to any such effort.)
[1712] The Corps "HAS"
[1713] I am concerned by the movement away from public funding of
Cadet activities and growing reliance on alumni contributions for such
purposes.
[1714] Not sure why we are changing or upgrading the mission statement
[1715] Would really require more time than is available to me now
to properly answer this.
[1716] It seems that too great of an emphasis is being placed on
insuring political correctness instead of focusing on developing the best
officers possible.
[1717] Not aware of any.
[1718] As stated in item #15 above.
[1719] Make Beast harder, more physical& more stressful Place
FAR less emphasis on recruiting athletes
[1720] -Interested in the retention rate, e.g. what percentage of
each graduate stay 20 plus years?; what are we doing to keep/build this
number up?; what percentage of male and female stay 20 plus years? -Concern
is that if WEST POINT does not achieve/maintain a 'reasonable' percentage
of graduates for a military career(20 plus years), we run a risk(Liberal
element of Congress thinking) of losing the Academy because of the expense
involved to graduate each officer
[1721] I still don't approve of women in the corp of "professional
killers". A separate Academy for women would be fine. If we have transitioned
subtly from being professional killers to gentlemen soldiers, I think we've
lost our mission, and we can be like any other Ivy League institution on
the East Coast.
[1722] I want: the academy staying focused upon Duty, Honor, Country.
high academic standards maintained. don't want it jerked around by politics,
at least the jerking around minimized.
[1723] Am concerned the academy is changing its focus from a military
institution to an academic institution. We need to emphasize this institution
is for developing military leaders with a good academic background vice
what I think is happening which is an expensive ROTC program.
[1724] 1. Weakening of "combat spirit" 2. Direction towards political
correctness 3. Changing of beast barracks approach 4. Encouraging growth
of splinter groups among graduates by fostering minority associations.
A graduate is a graduate!
[1725] I am concerned about the AOG funding programs and projects
that should be funded by the U.S. government. We should to it like the
AF Academy and Naval Academy do it. Expect and DEMAND that the U.S. government
pay for all programs and projects that relate to the fundamental mission
of the Academy. That is not what I see in the future funding by AOG. I
see us not involved in supplemental funding but in DIRECT funding that
should be provided by the U.S. government.
[1726] Mission on the academy - development of leaders for the Army,
or for the civilian sector? I frown on any efforts to make the academy
into just another college. I wonder if cadets are more interested in serving
in the armed forces or developing skills to make them more competitive
in civilian life? Since the mid 1980s it has been my impression that the
latter holds true. My opinion is based on comments from classmates/grads
that have served as academy instructor (they say the curriculum encouraged
this attitude) and conversations with junior officers associated with these
year groups. Or, check out the percentage of graduates still on active
duty. What is the retention percentage of academy graduates by class on
critical career dates (5 years 20 years)? Although the military drawdown
was a factor, I think you will see that many classes in the mid-80's (those
under/influenced by Gen Palmer as the Sup) began to bolt at the first opportunity.
I could be way off base, but that is my initial impression - now that you
have asked.
[1727] Clear understanding that the mission includes training future
leaders of the country, regardless of the length of military service. This
is just the starting point.
[1728] Abbreviated list: Combat arms training and first assignment.
Women at West Point. Reserve commissions. Civilian faculty. Honor code.
Locks on doors. Pregnancy. Retention.
[1729] focus on bedrock value of compassion for others at the expense
of other values; softening of the 4th Class system;
[1730] I still believe that cadet pay is ridiculously low and that
the academy ought to be concerned with the fact that its typical brand
new graduate leaves USMA with a significant debt load.
[1731] Focus is turning away from competent military leaders to a
more general "politically correct" leaders for the Nation.
[1732] Like many, I think the Corps "has". It appears the new direction
is strictly academically oriented, and it leans more that way begs the
question of need for the Academy. What is wrong with producing military
officers and leaders vice PhD?
[1733] 1. Traditional areas of plebe year are slowly being eroded.
When plebes enjoy Beast Barracks and say that plebe year is not difficult,
then I question the changes being made. 2. Excessive number of electives
being offered. Waste of precious resources. 3. Over-emphasis on bowl games.
4. Increasing dependence on graduates for funds.
[1734] In general ,however I feel that USMA must lobby thru all available
means for additional appropriated funds (See 16 above). We cannot survive
w/o ' tooting our own horn' and proclaiming to ALL THE REASONS WHY USMA
exists.
[1735] RA Commissions for Graduates should not go away
[1736] Class officers and reps are more qualified than I am to answer
this question.
[1737] 1. They seem to be trying to train Rhodes scholars instead
of military officers. 2. Did not put enough effort in to fighting for regular
commissions for WP graduates.
[1738] op. cit. The nation has need of a military academy to develop
combat leaders for our nation's army. We don't need USMA if it is to be
a national university.
[1739] As a taxpayer funded institution USMA will always be subject
to the dictates of political correctness whether or not it is in the best
interests of the nation or the corps. In typical fashion it seems that
the marching orders are there and, as is an officer's duty, the mandate
is to carry out the order to the best of one's ability (whether you agree
or disagree). I am troubled by what appears to be the diminishment of West
Point's luster as a source of our country's future leaders. I am unsure
whether this is a valid observation or merely a misperception of what is
taking place at the rock. Admittedly, the recent discussions on the forum
page have been enlightening and somewhat disheartening.
[1740] Political Correctness as it conflicts with training military
leaders. Aparrent problems with the Honor System Civilianization of USMA,
e.g. voluntary meals, etc. Lowering of standards Changes in the Plebe System
[1741] The ties that bind are not always rational, especially when
viewed from outside USMA. I hope that as the Comm removes some of these
plebe tasks, that they are replaced with something that will hold the class
together and allow them to identify with the old corp in some way.
[1742] mission statement no area tours lack of commitment of cadets
to service? political correctness in place of mission
[1743] I have completed 13 years active duty and 8 years in the US
Army Reserve. It is imperative that we instill in the USMA community the
importance of Reserve service. As the mission of US Armed Forces changes,
there is a shifting emphasis placed on Reserve Units. Graduates, current
Cadets and Active Army only personnel must understand and support the Reserve
mission.
[1744] The Corps Has. And I really mean it. New Graduates going into
Non Combat roles ?
[1745] Concerns for "political correctness" appear to have replaced
proven traditional values.
[1746] Concerns for "political correctness" appear to have replaced
proven traditional values.
[1747] Civilianization Push to do more faculty research
[1748] I do not have enough information about the current trends.
[1749] Placing gradutes in non-combat arms branches.
[1750] I feel that committment to a career is unnecessary. It is
the job of Congress to ensure a fair pay-back for value received by use
of service requirements (3 yrs, 5 yrs, etc).
[1751] WP is following the trend of the services in general of politicizing
the military out of existance. Too much stock is being placed in political
correctness and too little in preparing young people to lead others into
bloody, dirty, and exhausting combat. For this we will all pay the price.
[1752] Frankly, I haven't followed West Point's direction since it
accepted women and watered down its Honor Code. I'm not against what it
has done, but I don't feel part of it anymore because it has changed beyond
my recognition.
[1753] Women at USMA.
[1754] We must get back to the idea of providing leaders for the
combat arms.
[1755] "Loosening" the 4th class system; talked with a yearling who
was home and he related the plebes seem to run the place; it was headed
in that direction before we left in '90 Civilian professors--USMA lose
an advantage of having professors with a vested interest and relationship
with the cadets. If the problem is poor education, that should be handled
by selecting professors who want to educate, not just punch their ticket
with an Academy professorship
[1756] I'm concerned about the long term survival of the institution.
What is the clear distinction of Academy Grads (product) versus ROTC/Other
Grads, after the five year point in a military career? What is the Benefit/Cost
ratio of sending future offers to service academies?
[1757] I shall forever be disturbed that Gen. Palmer eliminated the
USMA Squash team because it continues to lose...to Navy. That was an outrageous
decsiion. That is not much of a ideal to hold up to the world about the
goals of the Academy. When lost, simply cancel the sport...UNBELIEVABLE.
And apparantly no one has the stomach to reverse that decision. Where is
the written explanation for this hasty retreat at just the threat of a
loss in battle?.
[1758] Civilian Professors
[1759] I am still concerned that the graduating class members are
not commissioned in the Regular Army
[1760] West Point is getting to look too much like a civilian college.
Why go to the Point when graduates from other colleges can get a broader
base of instruction ( humanities, science, etc.) and still be no different
in achieving RA.
[1761] Would like to see hold to solid set of traditinal values in
face of changing society
[1762] I have no evidence to support my concerns. The information
I receive is normally second hand. My major concern is that we are no longer
producing a top of the line product (responsible leaders). I have been
told the drop out rate of WP officers from Ranger School is at an all time
high (I have no evidence to support this) and WP officers lack the character
and disipline of past classes (not all, and again I have no evidence to
support this).
[1763] - USAR commissions - Graduates should not be eligible for
RIF with RA commissions (YG 79 & almost 80)
[1764] leadership and attitude of cadets regular commisions for WP
grads funding by Congress for facilities, including sports equal to other
academies, at West Point
[1765] Not sufficiently familiar to be able to answer
[1766] 1. I don't want to attract candidates with only the desire
to suceed in corporate America. Prospective cadets should not attend just
because USMA is a prestigous school. A willingness to serve in the Army
is required.
[1767] I am currently employed in higher education at the college/university
level. The general environment in a civilian academic institution is NOT
one that I would like to see at West Point. The style of management, the
integrity, the lack of delegated authority,the entire decision making process,
etc., etc.,that is typical in a civilian university should not be present
at a military academy, to say nothing of THE Military Academy. Not having
served at USMA, nor having even visited there very often, I can't say whether
these situations even exist. Nevertheless, every effort should be taken
by the Supe, Com,and the Dean to keep West Point as the premier training
arena for military service to our country - not just one more elite "egg
head factory".
[1768] Impact of fund raising activities on Congressional appropriations.
Relying upon AOG only to lobby Congress. We will support if guided.
[1769] I am concerned about the changes in branch choices and RA
commissions
[1770] I beieve the Academy should be clearly focused on providing
graduates who will complete a full career in the uniformed services, with
emphasis on service in the combat and combat support arms.
[1771] Combat doesn't allow time out for stress; soldiers perform
how they train.
[1772] The "civilization" of the academy way of life. It appears
that we bending the rules to appear more palatable to the young populace
to secure their interest in the academy. I thought we were still a military
academy. Having cheerleaders leading "rap" cheers and appear in gang garb
at football games seems a bit over the top.
[1773] fuzzy mission in post-Cold War world; unclear whether fourth
class system still in place; too much emphasis on conformity and mindless
loyalty ("my country right or wrong") and not enough on having the moral
courage to question everything, including one's role in the world and society.
[1774] Loss of focus on warfighting and service to the Army/nation
versus more focus on individual with majors in academics and more folks
going to branches other than combat arms. Also, I'm not opposed to progress,
but I am concerned that we maintain a sufficient level of "shared hardship"
at West Point to continue to make it a very difficult place to graduate
from. It is just this hardship which has bound its graduates together in
the past. Forgetting "Corps Has" and all that stuff, I hope it is still
painful enough for the cadets so that this special bonding process is still
occurring -- I'm nervous that it isn't. If West Point isn't a special place,
continuing to produce high quality folks, then it will lose its relevance
and cease to exist -- we need to focus more on making it more different
than anywhere else, not more like other colleges.
[1775] Our direction seems to be toward integrating grads seamlessly
into the Army as a whole. I feel we are to set the example, not blend in.
[1776] I am not fully informed about the fuss concerning the leadership
department. I do know that a number of graduates are concerned about trends
they discern in what type of soldiers we are preparing.
[1777] USMA (and the AOG) exists because of the Army, for the Army.
USMA leaders often fail to convey their commitment to the Army and to its
purposes, and the public often gets the impression that the USMA product
is Rhodes Scholars or stellar athletes rather than officers undertaking
a lifetime of service in the Army.
[1778] I am very pleased with the efforts to integrate women into
the academy. I am displeased with the attack on the academy from members
of congress and others withing to underfund it.
[1779] Situational ethics instruction Diluting the combat mission
of the Academy
[1780] Unsure of the status of honor code, quality of leadership
instruction and evolution of the academics offerred
[1781] Are Combat Leaders really being developed who want to serve
their country in the military in time of need, or has the Academy become
only a college university.
[1782] Naturally as an "old grad" I think the standards are loosening
up some. I learned this during my reunion by personal observation of the
cadets general military bearing and discussions with classmates.
[1783] I am concerned about the direction we seem to headed that
requires more fund raising for programs which used to be funded with tax
dollars. Given the mission of the Academy, we should never let it rely
on (or be swayed by) private funding!
[1784] I am concerned that we graduates are looked upon as "elitists"
in our own Military establishment. As a physician I am greatly disturbed
by the concept that everyone must fit a particular mold. The Academy is
a great instution of both academia and discipline. Those qualities instilled
in us apply to ALL prefessional pursuits.
[1785] Discipline; honor; drinking; civilianization of faculty and
atmosphere; lowering of standards (e.g., "recycling" to avoid admitting
some one may bave failed); Political Correctness; sexual harassment used
as a weapon against male cadets; cheapening of cadet rank with "makework"
jobs that should be additional duties - there are no indians any more!!!;
dissension in the faculty; etc. etc.
[1786] caparison of USMA with supposedly more cost effective commissioning
sources (a dubious claim for various reasons) and occasional rumblings
about closing USMA
[1787] I remain undecided on many of the policies of USMA (new mission
statement, etc.). However, I believe that in order to ensure taht West
Point does not lose its unique place in our nation's political/social/economic
aspects, it must not stray too far from its core or become what it is not.
Improvement -- not change-- should be sought. Issues and policies which
do the former I support. Others, I do not.
[1788] Percentage of nonmilitary on staff & faculty.State of
the honor system.
[1789] See my answer for question #17
[1790] Forcing over 25% of women graduates into career fields where
they have no future career path.
[1791] Civilianization of the faculty in academic departments scares
me--don't want a Naval Academy solution without role models. Got to do
something to instill a desire to serve in graduates: Too much me-ism.
[1792] Concerned about screening of civilian faculty selected to
teach at West Point. I believe they should be the strongest proponents
of USMA - but it does not seem to be the case.
[1793] The Regular Army Commission
[1794] Discipline Honor Code Loss of Vol Indef Status to Grads
[1795] As with most grads, I dislike the way USMA is becoming more
and more like other civilian institutions rather than maintaining its tradition.
[1796] USMA must not lose its focus on producing leaders for the
Army; this must remain the absolute priority mission in the minds of ALL
staff and faculty assigned to the Academy
[1797] Without putting too harsh a face on it, I'm somewhat concerned
about what has happened to the Fourth Class System. My plebe experience
has been a source of strength for me in difficult times and it would be
a shame if that were eased up too much. Let's face it, plebe year should
be extremely stressful and unpleasant. This can be accomplished without
resorting to dangerous or unprofessional behavior, sexual or racial harassment,
or other unacceptable practices.
[1798] Think Christman is doing a great job
[1799] The loss of Regular commissions.
[1800] I am struck by what seems to be a reduction in the focus on
developing combat leaders for the Army. An ethic of combat service (gender
or branch is not important, Cbt/CS/CSS all must have the ethic) is what
should be stressed. We seem to be losing sight of the primary purpose of
an army- to fight.
[1801] 1. Seems to be a diminishing emphasis on mental and physical
toughness. 2. During my recent 15 yr reunion, was appalled by the lack
of respect afforded by current cadets...stark contrast to what I experienced
at the 10 yr in '92. Military courtesy appeared to be on a slide. Very
disheartening and difficult to maintain graduate support if alumni lose
faith in the quality of leaders following behind us.
[1802] w-p should train fighters in a broad sense. not politicians
or arts not associated with the military. men & women alike.
[1803] We must enhance and promote the public image and knowledge
about the Academy throughout the US
[1804] I am concerned with the total elimination of the Fourth Class
System. Yes, there were bad points to the System, but there were very good
points to the System. The "Negative Leadership" experience, although tough,
is a life-changing experience that cannot be replaced.
[1805] I am not familiar with the current agenda. However, I have
heard various comments from other graduates that do concern me.
[1806] My primary concern is with government support. Grads will
always have adamant opinions about USMA internal function and operation
policies; these are secondary in my mind to the preservation of the government
commitment to fund West Point. We are nothing without the people's support.
[1807] Need more info
[1808] The policies at the academy are become too liberal. The plebe
system, the cadet discipline system, from what I understand, appears to
be becoming too easy and not tough enough
[1809] Refocusing on its basic mission. I am worried about its survival
as it tends to become foremost another great American university. Concerns
exist about its cost-effectiveness, governmental support even popular support.
[1810] Honor Code should not be more lax.
[1811] Becoming just another "college" Not adequately motivating
cadets for career in the military service. Not focusing on preparing cadets
for the combat branches. Overemphasis by superintendent on intercoll egiate
athletics.
[1812] Realistically, USMA should be closed. It is not cost effective.
The Army no longer attempts to retain graduates.
[1813] Concerned with the perception that West Point is not as mentally
and physically challenging.
[1814] Regular Comission for graduates. Honor Code Purpose of the
Academy (It is not just another college)
[1815] Reserve instead of RA commissions for graduates.
[1816] Am concerned we are becoming too "politically correct" and
soft. Mark Elfendahl's ('89) letter in the recent Assembly accurately summarizes
my thoughts as well.
[1817] Ever since LTG Dave R. Palmer was Supe, there have been untold
changes in the daily lives of the cadet corps that noone has truly been
informed of. Changes such as no pinging, no area tours, cars for Cows,
no RA commissions, and other untold overturnings of tradition ought to
at least be addressed and given a reason for. It has reached a point in
recent years that I can not accurately give prospective candidates a picture
of daily life at the academy because so much has changed that I am totally
unaware of.
[1818] USMA should not look to the AOG for funding that more appropriately
should be furnished by the federal government
[1819] -loss of the RA commision upon graduation--fight for its return
-need more focus on military careers and military career leadership
[1820] I don't understand the emphasis on making USMA more like the
Army, and thereby removing its distinction as an institution that creates
"Warriors." The discipline I learned and retain from my many hours of "pinging",
area tours, etc. . Have made me successful in everything I have done.
[1821] I consider the mixture of women with men at the academies
and within the combat units to be currently detrimental and potentially
more detrimental. This is not a bias question. It is a recognition of the
differences and the potential effects of those differences on morale and
effectiveness.
[1822] USMA has forgotten that its primary mission is to train future
combat officers and is turning into a liberl arts college training its
graduates for civilian occupations. The engeneering degree is much more
useful to a combat officer than a liberal arts degree, particularly in
the company grades. If one elects to leave the military as I did, it is
not a problem to obtain advanced degrees in other fields. If USMA continues
its current course for another twenty five years, it will have essentially
the same mission as Williams or Amherst.
[1823] I think the Academy is losing its discipline.
[1824] I am aware of some of the major concerns and differences of
opinion that are around. I am not informed or well enough positioned to
be able to urge specific solutions.
[1825] I prefer not to comment in this forum for fear of being labeled
a grumpy old grad
[1826] Am glad to see that the new mission statement makes mention
of a career as a commissioned officer: West Point should never lose sight
of the fact that its graduates are tasked by society to win our nation's
wars.
[1827] Provide graduates with a regular commission upon graduation.
[1828] Provide graduates with a regular commission upon graduation.
[1829] 1. I am concerned about what I perceive to be a decline in
the level of (self-)discipline among graduates, as evidenced by a lack
of respect for senior officers, wear of uniform, etc. 2. If society is
sending the Academy cadets who lack respect and discipline, I do not believe
the current leadership style/theory of the Academy is the proper method
of instilling in the cadets West Point's values. 3. I am also concerned
about what I perceive USMA's desire to be more like the Army in military
training; the standards in the Army are not high, and should not be the
standards USMA grads strive for. 4. I disagree with the appointment of
a non-grad as head of DPE. If there is one "academic" department that truly
separates USMA from civilian schools it is DPE (a department that was probably
my biggest nemesis as a cadet). Using the rationale of appointing an officer
to that position because of joint domicile considerations is particularly
troublesome.
[1830] I am concerned about the tendency to legitimize our education
by comparing it to civilian institutions. We will never compete with them
on their terms. We must legitimize our existence by proving the quality
of the officer the Academy provides.
[1831] Although the mission is still to produce Army officers, there
is more of a need for instilling skills which are needed in civilian life
and business as the military is reduced in size. There should be more effort
given to preparing graduates for business careers as well as military.
This is especially true in the area of fiscal responsibility.
[1832] As there appears to be more and more reliance on private funding
for a whole host of things, I would like to see something done to not only
promote this effort but also provide a better networking platform in the
private sector for grads aimed at business, career opportunities as well
as socially.
[1833] Too broad a question in my view. Basically I think that the
Supe is doing a fine job, but there are areas I know little about that
might concern me, such as the role of the plebe system, how academics are
no viewed, etc. There are many changes as WP that I feel are good or necessary,
but there are some that I cannot evaluate without more knowledge.
[1834] Don't know enough to answer.
[1835] From what I have heard. the academy staff is shying away from
contesting the Reserve commission law for all service academy graduates.
we shouldn't let sleeping dogs lie.
[1836] Concerned that focus has become too academic. West Point is
not an Ivy League College - it is the premier military academy in the world.
Our graduates must continue to be world class military leaders. I see too
many recent grads who leave the Army as soon as they can to become doctors,
lawyers and mutual fund sales persons!
[1837] USMA should exist only to provide military leaders during
wartime. USMA is not an Ivy League school and should not try to act like
one. It has a unique mission and doesn't need to compete with other liberal
colleges and universities.
[1838] Direction is an issue all organizations must continually re-visit.
Having attended West Point and taught there, and attended another institution,
Georgia Tech, I can tell you that Georgia Tech is academically harder.
This observation has been supported by my first hand observations in the
Army and in business. Maybe this is not what we are striving for, but I
think we think we are tougher, academically. Like any business, we must
decide what we do best and do it. This means not doing other things that
don't directly contribute. I think we try to be all things to all people.
[1839] Concern with an apparent policy to increase the retention
rate to the extent that, if a cadet desires to graduate, they will graduate.
I have heard numbers like 87% retention to graduation of an incoming class.
Admissions screening is good but not that good. I further understand the
political conundrum within which we must survive. Cost per graduate too
high - increase the number of graduates. At some point we must wrestle
with the quality of the output.
[1840] Female Master-of-the-Sword
[1841] New Lieutenants coming out have a lower level of motivation
than their ROTC peers, most have already made post-Army plans. I say this
based on my recent 18 month experience as an OBC Instructor.
[1842] Female Master-of-the-Sword
[1843] I can't answer this question right now.
[1844] I truthfully have not followed the latest direction USMA is
taking, so I do not feel qualified to comment on this issue.
[1845] too much dependence on fund raising rather than securing the
right financial support through the federal budget process
[1846] Changes in USMA from 1802 till the 1976 were devoted to training
and developing combat arms leaders for a career in the regular army. Changes
since 1976 seem to be devoted to reducing USMA to little more than a federally
funded ROTC program that loses its differential advantage over ROTC program.
This bothers me intently. Discussions about converting USMA to a post graduate
school equals alarms me. My peers and older grads used to joke that 'the
Corps has!' Now, we fear it is no longer a joke.
[1847] Changes in USMA from 1802 till the 1976 were devoted to training
and developing combat arms leaders for a career in the regular army. Changes
since 1976 seem to be devoted to reducing USMA to little more than a federally
funded ROTC program that loses its differential advantage over any university
ROTC program. This bothers me intently. Discussions about converting USMA
to a post graduate school equals alarms me. My peers and older grads used
to joke that 'the Corps has!' Now, we fear it is no longer a joke.
[1848] We need to stick to the basics of honor and discipline. From
personal experience, I believe there has been a breakdown of this at the
naval academy, and there is the possibility of it happening at USMA. Whatever
new programs are created need to be based on the principles of honor and
discipline. I am afraid that these are weak areas in American society,
and they need to be upheld by the academy at all costs.
[1849] I hope the Academy does a better job in the future of stressing
its role of developing officers for career service.
[1850] The elimination of Regular Army commissions is most distressing.
It is just one more area that used to 'seperate' USMA from ROTC, but now
this is even in question. Also, the Supe's new mission statement seems
like a lot of work in semantics, and does not really make any major difference
from the mission as currenlty stated
[1851] I'm unhappy with the Supe soliciting money from Alumni to
use for rennovations.
[1852] It appears the warrior ethic is is no longer valued in the
classroom.
[1853] The Master of the Sword should not be a female.
[1854] 1. Method of choosing branches on graduation. 2. General image
of laxness. 3. Too many "permanent" associate Professors and "civilianization"
of faculty. Need to keep better contact with the "real" army.
[1855] Perceived lessening of physical requirenments for females
at USMA. Pereceived dilution of core academic instruction as a result of
offering so many different majors. Pereceived lack of focus as a result
of alowing cadets to choose branches other than combat and combat support
arms.
[1856] lack of current knowledge about today's Army and needs in
a world vastly different from the Cold War era. Some older graduates in
particularly can be harmful to my work in admissions when they discourage
females and minorities; I never hear any complaints about athletes however.
[1857] I'm a little concerned with the approach some have on the
question of "Grad School" vs. "current" program. Has AOG positioned itself?
Where does USMA stand? All I know about the subject is what I read in Assembly-Grads
who differ.
[1858] Lack of fourth class system
[1859] I'm a little concerned with the approach some have on the
question of "Grad School" vs. "current" program. Has AOG positioned itself?
Where does USMA stand? All I know about the subject is what I read in Assembly-Grads
who differ.
[1860] I would like to see USMA maintain as its primary goal the
production of regular officers for COMBAT arms leadership - ROTC does a
grand job of educating statesmen, administrators, finance experts, and
the like. Let them do it...
[1861] I would like to see USMA maintain as its primary goal the
production of regular officers for COMBAT arms leadership - ROTC does a
grand job of educating statesmen, administrators, finance experts, and
the like. Let them do it...
[1862] I am concerned about possible efforts by members of Congress
to eliminate or otherwise greatly reduce the mission of the Academies.
Is there a way that the AOG(s) could collaborate to lobby Congress on behalf
of the academies? Most of this is done by HQDA now in the budget process,
but the AOG might help in some way.
[1863] Is it true about beanheads having "stress cards"? If so, the
Corps has. I also understand the area is no more. Farewell to the century
man, and hail to those of yore.
[1864] RA Commissioning
[1865] Not determined at this time
[1866] Maintain high standards for physical education program. Develop
a plan to cut back the size of the corps voluntarily that can be implemented
before we are forced to do so by an outside agency. Make sure the honor
system is strong and remains so. Provide periodic updates to graduates
on the status of this strength.
[1867] In general, I am happy with direction West Point is headed
despite the usual old grad -'the corp has'- concerns. I'll simply refer
to my comments in item 18 concerning the increased emphasis and involvement
in fund raising by the AOG and again urge caution in this area.
[1868] regular commissions commissioning in other than the combat
arms and that's just for starters
[1869] I am concerned that is becoming "just another" college. Eventually,
I feel this will lead to it's disbandment.
[1870] Too much opportunity for non-combat arms selection. Too much
"Political Correctness", especially with regard to females.
[1871] Too much opportunity for non-combat arms selection. Too much
"Political Correctness", especially with regard to females.
[1872] women in cadet uniforms
[1873] I think we should develop physically fit, well trained military
leaders. I believe the curriculum should be more focused on military subjects
(math, engineering, history, english, foreign languages, international
relations and economics.
[1874] See above
[1875] 1. I learned of the mission-statement refinement process thru
my classmate Dave Palmer, a former Supe. I got the distinct impression,
which I now learn was incorrect, that participation was limited to current
staff and former Supes. I wish I had known that "public" participation
was possible, because I have definite views on the topic (which I imparted
to Dave Palmer, so all was not lost). 2. a. Hallums was properly dismissed;
but he had the right idea, poorly executed. When the Department was called
Military Psychology and Leadership, it too tended to be a "milk & cookies"
course, more academic "education" than practical "training". The Army needs
as many Pattons and Sheltons as it does Bradleys, Gruenthers and Abramses
(and Schwarzkopfs, representing a balance of styles); i.e., individualism
and offbeat initiative ain't all bad. b. Teach warriorship, but the broad
education that "develop[s] the power of analysis so that the mind may reason
to a logical conclusion" should remain the primary mission of the academy.
To that end, restore academic class rank; and don't force goats (e.g.,
lower half)into the engineers and signal corps. 3. I understand that, in
order to make the USMA experience more like the cadets' future Army experience,
USMA has ceased assigning cadets to companies by height. Unfortunately,
this causes the Corps to appear on parade just like an active-duty unit
on parade -- i.e., scraggly, with flankers loping along and runts stretching
to catch up. To ameliorate this effect, parade by battalion instead of
by company, with the rank and file arranged to the right front by height,
just as the active Army does. To provide for leadership practice to company
staffs, and for training and drill competition, parade by company only
during the week, when the GAP presence is minimal.
[1876] Concern for demise of institution for lack of senior leadership
support Need for universal uniting of all academy grads to develop a forum
similar to "March on Washington" emphasizing need for institutions and
ethical standards Focusing the political pressure of retirees and civilian
members of academy classes on Washington to fortify support for the institutions
now rather than too late!
[1877] Generally I am happy with the direction of USMA, but I think
that fund raising for West Point is going to become a greater and greater
issue as the Army goes through further rounds of budget cutting. The AOG
(or someone) needs to address the challenge that West Point faces in funding,
and we need better representation of West Point to the Congress to insure
Army funding does not continue to dwindle. My impression is that the Navy
is supporting Annapolis better than the Army is supporting West Point.
This needs to be fixed, but only advocacy by graduates can fix it. The
Navy seems to make better use of it's grads in "pitching" Annapolis than
we do in advocating USMA.
[1878] -Area tours should be re-instated
[1879] I cannot comment.
[1880] Concern about watering down the USMA mission of preparation
of leaders for combat by introducing too much humanistic emphasis
[1881] Leadership is not just a military need but also a community
need. We should stress that if the military life ends for you, whatever
the reason, graduates still have an obligation to the community.
[1882] Elimination or lowering of the standards for the 4th class
system.
[1883]
[1884] We are slipping down the slope of not having sufficient differentiation
between USMA graduates and officers commissioned from other sources. We
have always been in a "no win' situation in that if a high percentage of
our graduates succeeded, it is attributted to the "WPPA"; if they didn't,
then the thinking was why pay all that money to get the same level of peformance
that the Army could get from officers produced from less expensive sources?
We need to attract AND RETAIN men and women of character who are differentiated
from other officers because they have had the USMA experience. We need
to insure that our graduates stay in the service for a "reasonable" period
of time. (Maybe 10 or 11 years.) "Reasonable" is from the service's view,
not the individuals.
[1885] Lack of RA commissions for graduates. Lack of mission to train
combat leaders. I believe that every cadet should be the same physical
strength requirements.
[1886] If I were concerned how would I input these concerns and to
whom.
[1887] Note comments on the West Point Forum; tremendous worry about
the directions previously taken which appear to dilute the rationale for
a MIlitary Academy
[1888] I am concerned that West Point may be losing its military
focus. There is a lot of debate on whether USMA is a military academy or
an Ivy League university. West Point should produce educated warriors,
not academicians. Restoring the warrior spirit to cadets is very important.
[1889] The usual from cranky old gray hogs....
[1890] I am unsure of the direction. We need to communicate better
with each other. Use of E-Mail could help tremendously.
[1891] Please see my comments above.
[1892] Did not like Thayer award recipient. We don't have much of
a football coach! Previous 96 season was accomplished in spite of him.
[1893] There is too much emphasis on athletics, especially with the
recent decision to join a conference. West Point is a special place and
I believe it is strong enough to stand on its own. The football decision
I realize is final, but the line needs to be drawn. West Point is not in
competition with the other top notch universities and should not model
their programs, to include athletic programs after these other universities.
[1894] I still believe that women don't belong in the Academy-so
does my wife!
[1895] Again stress opportunities for academic achievement
[1896] 1. The whole issue of women in the Army 2. The needed emphasis
on USMA producing combat leaders
[1897] Quit trying to be an Ivy League clone
[1898] Need to return to regular commission upon graduation. Set
up a separate Academy for females. One for all services
[1899] WP graduates should all receive active duty commisioning.
Reserve commisioning weakens the purpose of WP.
[1900] I am worried that the Academy may knuckle under to political
correctness and compromise its standards instead of remaining a bulwark
American values, the warrior ethic and intellectual excellence. I am basing
my concern on what I've seen in the Army and that Wall Street Journal article
on the battle between the Director of DMI and that Behavioral Sciences
professor. On the positive side I am glad the academy will not give tenure
to its civilian professors. This alone will keep us ahead of the Naval
Academy.
[1901] I am a little concerned about the curriculum focus at USMA.
I am a recent gradaute and junior CPT, however, there are subjects/training
that cadets should receive/study before commissioning. Such as a greater
emphasis on small unit leadership, the larger role of the Army in national
security, a thorough study of the Amry- how it is organized, the study
of each Corps, Division, and differing capabilities of each. These are
just a few, but basically USMA does not focus as much on the "real" Army
as it could.
[1902] Direction should be toward graduates willing and able to lead
and win in combat.
[1903] Would like to know more about West Point's current leadership
development philosophy and programs.
[1904] Continuing trend in softening military training. Our goal
is to produce leaders not politically correct mouthpieces. West Point has
turned into a "college" with gray uniforms as compared to a Military Academy.
[1905] The change from RA commissions to Reserve Commissions
[1906] The 4th Class System - I deeply believe it should be a right
of passage. I agree with many graduates that the last place we want to
find out if a person will "fold" under pressure is in combat. USMA needs
to ensure it is applying stress to these young men to make sure they will
perform under stressful situations.
[1907] a. USMA badly needs a professionally staffed Development Office.
b. USMA should advocate aggressively commissioning of USMA graduates in
the Regular Army
[1908] a. USMA badly needs a professionally staffed Development Office.
b. USMA should advocate aggressively commissioning of USMA graduates in
the Regular Army
[1909] I am concerned about the rumor that more civilian instuctors
will be assigned to teach. I am concerned about the "civilianizing" of
the academy.
[1910] 1. Incorporating too many civilians on the academic staff
[1911] "Duty, Honor, Country" & "A cadet does not lie, cheat,
or steal, or tolerate those who do" are bedrocks which should not have
been "modernized". The primary purpose of USMA is simply to develop, train,
and provide combat arms officers, not atheletes, medical specialists,transportation
officers etc. USMA is becoming more of a college while becoming less of
a military academy.
[1912] I do not have knowledge of the direction in which the Academy
is moving. Though I would be a strong advocate against a "kinder and gentler"
Academy climate.
[1913] The supe has become a fund-raiser, which is not good. Every
dollar solicited is one less dollar authorized and appropriated.
[1914] See statement listed within the AOG section. ie: retention
rates of recent classes Why are WP facilities supposidly so much worse
than USAF and USNA? emphasis on the core values, principles, mission of
USMA
[1915] Descriptions of the issues and policies are so generalized,
they are almost meaningless to me. I get the feeling West Point is drifting,
trying to discover what it really wants to be, and should be.
[1916] It is very disturbing that USMA graduates are receiving USAR
commissions instead of RA.
[1917] Recent articles (including one appearing in the Wall Street
Journal) indicate an institutional hostility toward faculty/staff members
displaying a "warrior" mentality. This, coupled with what seems to be an
unjustified preoccupation by USMA with excessive political correctness,
does not bode well for an institution dedicated to training officers to
lead the Nation's forces in time of war. Restore a sensible balance and
keep focused on the need to develop military leaders prepared to cope with
the stress of battle.
[1918] for a while he left emphasis on career in military out of
the mission. think he fixed his error.
[1919] I am concerned that it is necessary to lock cadet doors-it
would seem possible to me for thte system to instill a degree of personal
integrety which would preclude thievery bvetween cadets.
[1920] Many recent actions seem to be focused on being politically
correct rather than to further the mission of the Academy or of national
defense.
[1921] I'd like to be kept informed of retention rates for both cadets
and graduates and statistics on how West Pointers fare in the promotion
process in the Army compared to officers commissioned from other sources.
[1922] ...but there must be a better way to say "consideration of
others," unless that is all we really mean. How about "caring for" or "nurturing"
others?
[1923] It appears, as I guess it does to all old grads, that USMA
is becoming very liberal.
[1924] Too much emphasis on comparing USMA to the "Ivy Leagues" We
should strive to be compared with the elite academic schools, yet West
Point's main focus is supposed to be to win the nation's war, and prepare
graduates to be officers. Is discipline going away- no more walking tours.
It has never been fully explained why.
[1925] Except as noted above.
[1926] I have the impressionthat USMA is trying to become indistinguishable
from other colleges. Should this occur, I believe that USMA will perish,
and I believe it should.
[1927] The drift away from a strong orientation to producing officers
for a career in the Army. The cadet disciplinary system. The Cadet Honor
System. The lowering of standards at West Point. The branching of cadets
into virtually all branches. Academic majors program. Expanded civilian
faculty. Change in RA commissioning. Mission statement.
[1928] Want to ensure that WP grads are committed to 5 years and
not able to get out under special programs that the Army may offer without
CLEARLY having to repay the Army OR serve in a REAL reserve position. Too
many of my classmates have gotten out and are not in any way serving the
nation. I think many cadets are arriving into the Corps with the belief
that this is possible and in fact easy to do (i.e. get out before commitment
is over). This is eroding a long tradition of service.
[1929] Funding as noted above. The expanding scope of activities
and academic diversity may represent a shift away from what I believe to
be the basic mission of the Academy - to turn out the nation's war leaders.
I understand the need to have graduates with solid and well rounded knowledge
in broad areas, but the uniqueness of WP is its virtue. It is not just
another exceptional academic institution, and should not strive to be one.
The focus should always be on the "Military" in US"M"A.
[1930] Decreasing Plebe requirements (see recent Assembly article
on R-Day & response letter)
[1931] That's a big question and I do not feel familiar enough with
all the policies, or the direction the Academy is taking, or the current
relationship with DA and the Academy. My guess is that there should be
concern.
[1932] I have a concern that the Academy may be sacrificing some
of its military mission to be more like civilian universities, but this
perception may be versed on misinformation.
[1933] Not aware of any
[1934] I believe USMA graduates should serve only in the combat arms
(or at least serve a minimal period, before transferring to other branches).
[1935] West Point is becoming irrelevant in the Army. There's not
enough distinction between officers from WP and any other source of commission.
WP junior officers appear as immature as those from any other source of
commission, and the notion of service in times of tough, undefined missions
and shrinking resources doesn't seem to have been instilled very deeply
in the junior officers I see. Many of today's soldiers face vagaries we
never did in the Cold War, and I don't think the idea that we serve none
the less is very deeply ingrained. Further, the idea that we serve in the
Army, and that WP is irrelevant apart from the Army is lacking.
[1936] 1. Commission grads only in combat arms 2. RA commissions
at graduation
[1937] I am troubled by the apparent deficiencies in the physical
plant that affect the quality of the WP experience for cadets (e.g., inferior
athletic facilities, barracks in disrepair). I also do not like to hear
about the "softening" of the fourth class system. True, there were instances
of abuse in the past and some parts of the system could have been construed
as "games", but there is something to be said about the rite of passage
the system meant for so many young men and women. I believe it should have
been overhauled, not gutted as it seems to have been.
[1938] Concern about the SUP not fighting the Reserve Commission
Policy, that USMA Grads do not receive Active Commission.
[1939] Corps too large Graduates do not receive RA commissions Too
many electives Graduates should enter Combat Arms
[1940] USMA (the Supe) should be very aggressive in getting the kind
of budget support from Dept of the Army, OSD, and Congress that the Academy
needs. Fund raising should not become a primary focus of AOG. The nation
should pay the bill for the kind of military academy that it (President,
Congress, DOD) feels it needs. AOG should be active in lobbying to support
the Supe in this effort.
[1941] Perhaps a bit too much "progress"....i.e. elimination of AREA
FORMATION? Too many civilian instructors. Too much emphasis on feminization
of tactical dept. Male Grads should be commissioned in combat arms.
[1942] 1. Need RA commission when support can be gained from DA.
2. Individual Advanced Development programs should be focused on military
and physical development only.
[1943] I'm not sure we need new direction. If it ain't broke, why
fix it?
[1944] Don't agree with the new usma mission statement. It didn't
need to be changed. Graduates still must continue to get a regular army
commission. Also, there seems to be a continued break with tradition (i.e.
doing away with Walking the Area).
[1945] I don't like the idea of considering Plebes as privates in
the Army, an idea attributed to a General Abziad (sp?). I'd like to read
more of this. I'm not sure that having one company support thre entire
Corps for a period of time eases the out-of-class time burden onPlebes
in the designated company.
[1946] Corps of Cadets should be reduced to 2400.
[1947] I am concerned about the myriad of extra curricular activities
supported by AOG. Are they necessary, productive?
[1948] The apparent deemphasis of training cadets to be professional
military careerists.
[1949] Cadets should run honor system. I don't like the way its being
run now Cadets graduating should be commissioned in the regular army in
the combat arms Too many curriculum choices Preparation should be for profession
of arms
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